Refuting death for apostasy.

“Say, “The truth is from your Lord”: Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)” (Holy Qura’n 18:29)

And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers? And it is not for a soul to believe except by Allah’s permission; and He casts uncleanness on those who will not understand.” (Holy Qur’an 10: 99-100)

He said, “O my people have you considered: if I should be upon clear evidence from my Lord while He has given me mercy from Himself but it has been made unapparent to you, should we force it upon you while you are averse to it? (Holy Qur’an 11:28)

“And whoever invokes besides Allah another deity for which he has no proof – then his account is only with his Lord. Indeed, the disbelievers will not succeed.” (Holy Qur’an 23:117)

 

First will be the arguments from logic and internal consistency with what is revealed about the Creator and the overall theme of the Holy Qur’an.

1) Argument from hypocrisy.  

It should be clear to anyone who has even cursory knowledge of the Holy Qur’an that Allah (swt) has the most damning words for hypocrites.

“The hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire: no helper will you find for them” (Holy Qur’an 4:145)

“To the hypocrites give the glad tidings that there is for them (but) a grievous penalty; (Holy Qur’an 4:138)

“O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,-an evil refuge indeed.” (Holy Qur’an 9:73)

And there are people who say, “We do believe in God and the Last Day,” the while they do not [really] believe. They would deceive Allah and those who have attained to faith-the while they deceive none but themselves, and perceive it not. And when they are told, “Do not spread corruption on earth,” they answer, “We are but improving things!” Oh, verily, it is they, they who are spreading corruption but they perceive it not?  And when they are told, “Believe as other people believe,” they answer, “Shall we believe as the weak-minded believe?” Oh, verily, it is they, they who are weak-minded -but they know it not! And when they meet those who have attained to faith, they assert, “We believe [as you believe]”; but when they find themselves alone with their- evil impulses, they say, “Verily, we are with you; we were only mocking!” (Holy Qur’an 2:2-16)

“Deaf, dumb, blind – and they cannot turn back.” (Holy Qur’an 2:18)

It becomes painfully obvious from the above verses that hypocrites are those who say what they do hot really believe.  Their hidden hypocrisy is the cause for spreading corruption in the earth; they assert they believe as others believe but when they are alone with their evil impulse that is what they hold to.

Lastly, Allah (swt) asserts that such people can never revert or turn back.  Never!

This enough can end the debate about forcing apostates back into Islam at the point of a scimitar.  If the point is that apostates can bring harm to the faith, than why should someone be punished for their honesty in either having a crisis of conscious or not believing something, where as a hypocrite remains in stealth weaving his or her destructive schemes within the rank and file of the Muslims?

“The Hypocrites-they think they are over-reaching Allah, but He will over-reach them: When they stand up to prayer, they stand without earnest, to be seen of men, but little do they hold Allah in remembrance; (Holy Qur’an 4:142)

The question is why would Allah (swt) speak so strongly against hypocrisy and yet institute a law that would strongly encourage it?

If people are threatened with a scimitar and they truly do not believe and yet ‘come back into the fold’ for fear of losing their life how will these people not be “those who stand up in prayer, they stand without earnest, to be seen of men?”

How will these people not be among those who say, “We do believe in God and the Last Day,” the while they do not [really] believe.”?

How will such people not be those who assert,We believe [as you believe]”; but when they find themselves alone with their- evil impulses, they say, “Verily, we are with you; we were only mocking.”?

In other words: “Hey everyone it’s cool now I’m a Muslim again. You can put your scimitar down now. We cool right?”

We have never been told by any of our scholars how the scimitar brings people back to faith?

For example: when we read this beautiful passage in the Holy Qur’an.

“And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.”  (Holy Qur’an 5:83)

Does the scimitar produce this type of Islam?

“Allah has sent down the best statement: a consistent Book wherein is reiteration. The skins shiver therefore of those who fear their Lord; then their skins, and their hearts, relax at the remembrance of Allah. That is the guidance of Allah by which He guides whom He wills. And one whom Allah leaves astray, for him there is no guide.” (Holy Qur’an 39:23)

Does the scimitar produce this type of Islam?

Or is there a very strong possibility that the scimitar invites the kinds of hypocrisy mentioned above that Allah (swt) so strongly spoke against!    Does the scimitar invite disgruntled and restless souls who being forced back to Islam a chance to plot and plan vengeance within the community.

 

2) The implications this has upon sects and sectarianism in Islam.

 

Abdullah bin Mas’ud (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (Sallallahu a’laihi wa sallam) said,

“It is impermissible to take the life of a Muslim who bears testimony that there is no god but Allah, and I am the Messenger of Allah, except in one of three cases: the adulterer, a life for a life, and the renegade Muslim (apostate), who abandons the Muslim community.”

Source :( Bukhari – Kitab Ad-Diyyat /Book on Blood Money/hadith #6878)

Now considering the name Mu’tazili’ ends up meaning ‘separate, withdraw and  Khariji means to walk out or go out from do you really think for a moment that these people called themselves Mu’tazaili and Kharijites?

The problem with the apostasy law is that it becomes a powerful tool to persecute other Muslims with different political and theological positions.

 

 

In fact some one could argue that had it not been for colonial domination of Muslim lands and the secularization of Muslim lands it would be much the same as we saw during the Omayyad, Abbasid, Ottoman, Fatimid, Almoravid & Almohad dynasty not to mention the ‘Mihna’ and so on.

 

If it is claimed that when someone becomes an apostate or ‘abandons the Muslim community‘ we now have a tool that only suggest to us that ‘might is right’.  Indeed throughout the centuries various Muslim factions have claimed that other Muslim factions have become apostate and left Islam.

This concept puts many Muslim scholars today in a hypocritical position of condemning groups like ISIS but not condemning doctrinal/textual evidence used to make licit the blood of fellow Muslims.

Which begs the question of ‘what is Islam’?   And ‘what all does it entail’?

When a person embraces Islam, what actually do they embrace?   Would it be more appropriate for someone to say “I have embraced what I feel is Islam.”  Or “I have embraced the Islam I have learned thus far.”

 

3) The self-refuting nature of apostasy laws.

The whole idea that is espoused by many is that if a person were to leave Islam they could corrupt the hearts and minds of other believers.

“Say: ´Allah´s is the conclusive argument. If He had willed He could have guided every one of you.´” (Holy Qur’an 6:149)

“You cannot give guidance to whomsoever you wish, but Allah gives guidance to whomsoever He wills, and He best knows the ones who are on the right path.” (Holy Qur’an 28:56)    So we know that guidance is the purview of Allah (swt)- alone.

“As for those who have faith and then return to unbelief, and then again have faith and then return to unbelief, and then increase in unbelief, Allah will not forgive them or guide them on any path.” (Holy Qur’an 4:137)

“O you who believe, fear Allah, as He should be feared, and let not yourself die save as Muslims.” (Holy Qur’an 3:102)

The two verses coupled together show two things.

  1. a) We need to be upon the cycle of faith and not unbelief if we have hope of Allah forgiving us and being guided.
  2. b) We should not die unless we are in a state of surrender to Allah (swt) i.e-Muslims.

All these verses show the self refuting nature of the apostasy laws.  They scimitar does not guarantee faith for anyone.  In fact in this day and age the apostasy law is the cause for apostasy!

It would be of utmost interest as a sociological experiment if someone were to take Salman Rushdie’s ‘The Satanic Verses’ and share them with Not-Yet-Muslims and ask them, ‘would this make you not want to be a Muslim?’  And then share with them the “traditionalist” view on apostasy and ask them, ‘would this make you not want to be a Muslim?” and let us see which one would drive people away from accepting faith.

I read Salman Rushdie’s ‘The Satanic Verses’ it was absolute rubbish.   How many Muslims left Islam because of this book as compared to how many actually leave Islam because of the apostasy law itself?

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and the women of the believers to draw their outer garments closely round themselves. This makes it more likely that they will be recognized and not be harmed. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”  (Holy Qur’an 33:59)

Shakyh Abdullah bin Bayyah post 9-11 told Muslim women in the bay area (San Francisco) that they could remove the hijab.  Why? Because at that time the hijab became the reason that they were recognized and harmed; and therefore defeated the hukm.

So the Apostasy law (especially in this day and age) does the very opposite of what it is intended to do.

Answering objections:

Compel or not to compel? 

“There is no compulsion where the deen is concerned. Right guidance has become clearly distinct from error. Anyone who rejects false gods and has iman in Allah has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” (Holy Qur’an 2:256)

There are those among the “traditionalist” who say that you cannot compel people to accept Islam, however once they accept Islam you can compel them.  Than are those who say you can compel people to enter Islam.

Go and look at their arguments here:

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/244191/refutation-of-those-who-claim-that-the-hadiths-which-speak-of-executing-the-apostate-are-contrary-to-the-quran

Notice that they say,

“So no one is forced to enter Islam, but if he enters the faith and becomes Muslim voluntarily, then he is bound to abide by its rulings, whether he wants to or not, and one of the rulings of Islam is that the one who apostatises from the faith is to be executed.”

“This is like a person who has never travelled to some country; he is not obliged to travel to it or enter that country, and its laws do not apply to him, so long as he is in some other country and has not travelled there. But if he does travel there then he is bound by its laws, and will be subject to them, and they will be applied to him; whether he wants that or not.”

So let us say that we were to agree with the first paragraph above.  ‘’But if he enters the faith and becomes Muslim voluntarily, then he is bound to abide by its rulings.’     Let us say we agree that this applies to people who are converts and have tied to weigh the merits of Islam.  What does this say however about the millions upon millions who were simply born and raised Muslims?   Are they allowed to leave Islam or convert to other faiths because they were born and raised Muslims by default?   Obviously the so called ‘traditionalist’ are not going to agree to this.

 

#1) So let us deal with those who say that you can compel people to enter into Islam.  These are those who believe in a theory called ‘abrogation’.   It is a train wreck of a doctrine that is so bizarre and so incoherent that the only consensus that Sunni Muslims seem to have on it is that it exist.

https://primaquran.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/why-abrogation-in-the-holy-quran-is-a-false-doctrine/

So Sunni Muslims need to get this sorted out before they use any such theoretical concepts to say that Holy Qur’an 2:256 is null and void.

2) Let us deal with those who say that you cannot compel people to enter into Islam.  Well, they are obviously refuted by those who say that you can in point #1 above.  We let them sort that out since it is their understanding and not ours.

So this doesn’t take Prima-Qur’an from the hot seat. What would be a Prima-Qur’an position on Holy Qur’an 2:256 then?

“You have your deen and I have my deen.” (Holy Qur’an 109:6)

So the Allah swt clearly tells us there is no compulsion in our deen.  However; once a person has chosen to embrace Islam as a deen (way or life) there become obligations upon him/her like paying the zakaat (purification tax).

When you live in any country you pay taxes to that land.   They say there are two things we won’t be able to escape ‘death and taxes’.   So just as an immigrant who came to the United States would be his/her consent agree to abide by the terms and conditions of that state so to would anyone who enters into the ‘deen’ -way of life of Islam agree to abide by its terms and conditions.  If you leave Islam than the zakaat (purification tax) would of course no longer be applicable to you.

Verses misconstrued to justify apostasy within the Holy Qur’an. 

1)

“They ask you about the sacred month- about fighting therein. Say, ‘Fighting therein is a great [sin], but averting [people] from the way of Allah and desbelief in Him and [preventing access to] al-Masjid-Al-Haram and the expulsion of its people there from are greater [evil] in the sight of Allah. And fitnah is greater than killing.” And they will continue to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they are able. And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever-for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and in the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally.”  (Holy Qur’an 2:217)

No one is killed for changing their religion. The warning is that if these people die while they are in a state of unbelief (either from fighting Muslims, tonsillitis, slipping on a banana peel, old age etc…) that it will all be for naught in the world to come.

 

2)

“They swear by Allah that they said nothing, but they definitely spoke the word of unbelief and returned to unbelief after their Islam. They planned something which they did not achieve and they were vindictive for no other reason than that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them from His bounty. If they were to make repentance, it would be better for them. But if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Next World, and they will not find any protector or helper on the earth.” (Holy Qur’an 9:73-74)

This verse is in reference to people who believed after their Islam and joined the ranks of enemies who were against the Muslim community. As you can see they were in that state for some time. This verse would have been a perfect time to implement a hudud law for leaving Islam.  None was implemented. If it were the proponents of apostasy would quote this all the live long day.  So Allah (swt) will punish them in this life and in the next life.  Allah (swt) is not instructing any death penalties here.

3)

“Do not try to justify yourselves; you have gone from belief to disbelief.’ We may forgive some of you, but we will punish others: they are evildoers.” (Holy Qur’an 9:66)

This is actually a strong proof against any type of punishment for apostasy.  It clearly says that Allah (swt) will forgive some and punish others (which are clearly the prerogative of Allah (swt).  However, where is this punishment coming from?

The following verse explains:

“Did they not know that whoever is hostile towards Allah and His messenger, he will have the Fire of Hell to abide in? Such is the greatest humiliation.” (Holy Qur’an 9:63)

These people were doing what? They were mocking the Messenger of Allah (swt).

“And from them are those who harm the prophet, and they Say: “He only listens!” Say: “What he listens to is best for you. He believes in Allah, and he has trust for the believers, and he is a mercy to those who believe among you.” Those who harm the prophet, they will have a painful retribution. “(Holy Qur’an (9:61)

If only Muslims today could be patient and heed the advice of the Holy Qur’an. There is no need to burn down embassies when people insult our beloved Messenger (saw). That does not honour Him (saw).  Allah (swt) is the best to set forth our affairs.

“So remind them! You are only a reminder. “(Holy Qur’an 88:21)

4)  

“They would love to see you deny the truth even as they have denied it, so that you should be like them. Do not, therefore, take them for your allies until they forsake the domain of evil for the sake of Allah; and if they revert to [open] enmity, seize them and slay them wherever you may find them. And do not take any of them for your ally or giver of succour, unless it be such [of them] as have ties with people to whom you yourselves are bound by a covenant, or such as come unto you because their hearts shrink from [the thought of] making war either on you or on their own folk – although, if Allah had willed to make them stronger than you, they would certainly have made war on you. Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, Allah does not allow you to harm them.” (Holy Qur’an 4:89-90)

Once again we are confronted with a context and situation of open war against Muslims by those whom were in a treaty with Muslims and broke it.   So Allah (swt) says if they are in open hostility find them and slay them.    However, Allah (swt) says, “if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, Allah does not allow you to harm them.”

No killing apostates in these verses.

 

5)

 

The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; save for such [of them] as repent before you become more powerful than they: for you must know that Allah is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace. (Holy Qur’an 5:33-34)

We can see that for making war upon Allah (swt) and His Messenger (saw) or for spreading corruption in the land that death be not necessarily mandated, as expulsion from the land is acceptable.  It would seem rather farfetched that death be mandated for one’s personal convictions when even making war upon Allah (swt), His Messenger (saw) or spreading mischief in the land can be dealt with by expulsion.

No killing for apostates in these verses.

In the following verses Allah (swt) could have at any moment mandated death for a one’s personal convictions and did not.  Yet, even Allah (swt) admonished the Blessed Messenger (saw) to be patient and not to be ignorant.

 

O you who have attained to faith If you ever abandon your faith,” Allah will in time bring forth [in your stead] people whom He loves and who love Him – humble towards the believers, proud towards all who deny the truth: [people] who strive hard in Allah’s cause, and do not fear to be censured by anyone who might censure them: such is Allah’s favour, which He grants unto whom He wills. And Allah is infinite, all-knowing.” (Holy Qur’an 5:54)

“Surely, those who disbelieve after their believing then increase in unbelief, their repentance shall not be accepted, and these are they that go astray.” (Holy Qur’an 3:90)

“If their turning away is hard on you, then go down a tunnel deep into the earth, if you can, or climb up a ladder into heaven, and bring them a Sign. If Allah had wanted to He would have gathered them all to guidance. So do not be among the ignorant.” (Holy Qur’an 6:35)

Say – For Allah’s is the final argument – Had He willed He could indeed have guided all of you. (Holy Qur’an 6:149)

“Say, “The truth is from your Lord”: Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)” (Holy Qura’n 18:29)

And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers? And it is not for a soul to believe except by Allah’s permission; and He casts uncleanness on those who will not understand.” (Holy Qur’an 10: 99-100)

 

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  1. You laid out wonderfully the rational argument – based solely on Qur’ān – against the opinion that apostasy deserves death, but in my lowly view, all that’s really required to turn it to dust is 2:256.

    As far as I’m aware in the Hanafi usūl, nothing can abrogate the Qur’ān but the Qur’ān. The only thing a hadīth can do, even a mutawātir/mashhūr one, is supplement a ruling or provide a substitute for it (e.g. wiping over khuffayn). You calling the doctrine a trainwreck is, I think, an apt description.

    • Thank you respected brother. The reason for calling that doctrine ‘a train-wreck’ is because what sense or what good is it to have a doctrine that there is claimed consensus on, of which no one seems to no heads or tails about what is what. I have to speak out strongly against it because of what happened in the case of the Torah and the Injeel. For Muslims to think that the trusted scribes and Rabbis just over night turned on their sacred text is not logical. So I see this concept of claiming the oral tradition can abrogate the divine revelation as a step in that direction.

      Maybe this will help our friend ‘Rider’ in the other thread as well. Insh’Allah.

    • Rider

      I accept the argumentation by Primaquran but I do not accept any claims you make about the Hanafi school.

      The usul you mentioned are not wrong though. The point lies in the interpretation of the quranic verses. The argumentation stands and falls with how the verses are understood correctly. If we take now the famous verse 2:256 “no compulsion in religion” we will have to see what it means actually.

      The majority of scholars said that it is only talking about Jews and Christians and that apostates are an exception. Now you can object to this but note that this is the majority opinion. For me it is sufficient. It is mutawatir by this fact.

      However, that is not the only interpretation. Maturidi has given an alternative view in which the term “ikrah” which is usually translated as “compulsion” is seen in a totally different context. The verse can then be translated to something like “nobody has to force oneself to follow religion (because religion is only natural and logical)”.

      We can extend the discussion about the verse and I can tell you that for me Maturidi’s interpretation is extremely convincing. It is more in line with the further context of the verse and does not have the inelegant exception of apostates like most interpretations.

      • “The majority of scholars said that it is only talking about Jews and Christians and that apostates are an exception. Now you can object to this but note that this is the majority opinion. For me it is sufficient. It is mutawatir by this fact.” That supposed “mutawatir” falls in the face of the Holy Qur’an which is not supposed mutawatir but IS indeed.

        You have not interacted with any of the material presented here. Just like with the comments you make under the Hanafi Usul for verifying ahadith. I would be interested in seeing either an e-mail exchange with you and Sheikh Atabek and the points you raised or Sulaiman Ahmed otherwise it is challenging to take what you say seriously.

        This site is Prima-Qur’an. We brought to you the words of Allah (swt) a revelation that is consistent with itself.

      • You still seem to be advocating for the illogical and oppressive position of killing a human being for nothing more than changing their mind, am I correct? I don’t care how vast a “majority” an opinion like that may be – it’s not logical, nor is it “mutawātir” (lol what?). Your misuse of terms like consensus and mutawātir thus far shows me what sort of person we’re dealing with.

        What proof is there for making an exception, if not ahad narrations? That’s against my school’s usūl, or didn’t you know? I think you need to re-watch Shaykh Atābek’s talk on the issue. He clarifies that the actual reason for passing a death sentence on apostates is for hirābah; the only disagreement in the school was about whether hirābah needed to occur, or just the mere possibility of it was enough (which is really just a lame excuse to kill people anyway).

        You haven’t addressed the article or the Hanafi school’s position or methodology, and you haven’t even clarified your own position. Every time you comment it’s a big muddy mess, and I’m beginning to think that you’re really just here to cause a ruckus.

      • Rider

        As Salamu Alaykum

        I am saying that the Qur’an is not in conflict with death penalty for apostasy and that it is commanded but not explicitly. So if the Admin wishes we can talk about the Qur’an.

        If not then let me just put some last words about this topic.
        What you Abu Talhah and Abdullah do not understand is what Islamic supremacy means. You compare faith and disbelief and make judgments about inequality and oppression. Well, faith and disbelief are not the same. It is rather illogical that you compare them like this. Disbelief is usually something in the mind, yes. But it is still an offence. A disbeliever is not innocent and Allah can order a punishment for this world. Faith matters.

      • Walakum salaam warahmutallahi wabarkatuh.

        Rider, everyone has limits to their patience and so let me say on the outset you have twice now stated
        “So if the Admin wishes we can talk about the Qur’an. If not then let me just put some last words about this topic.”

        You also stated:
        “If you wish and if this is the place for it I can give my thoughts on Shukurov’s proofs from the Qur’an against killing apostates.”

        You have now said this twice as if I have not published comments or would withhold comments. Yet you yourself have stated in another comment

        “Here on Primaquran everything is transparent. I might disagree with some opinions here but everything is laid out openly. There are no tricks and we can talk honestly.”

        Now I understand that there are Christians, and Atheist who are desperate to prove the case for Apostasy in the Holy Qur’an. We have answered those objections. So now once and for all you need to establish your proofs from the Holy Qur’an that death is mandated for those who leave Islam.

        Know this, if your next comment is more rhetoric without producing the evidence than KNOW you are in clear violation of what Allah (swt) has commanded us in the Holy Qur’an. “Produce your proof IF you are truthful.” (Holy Qur’an 2:111)

        I mean how many post in thus far and you haven’t produced your evidence from the Holy Qur’an? So your next comment WILL BE your best evidence, your most well thought out arguments as well as your claimed proof from the Holy Qur’an. If not I deem your contributions to this thread over. Why? Because Allah (swt) has given us a test that people who are truthful and sincere will produce their proof; those who are not will not do so.

        You may contribute to other threads your thoughts and views but no one, not Abu Talhah, Abdullah, nor the readers, want to go round and round the merry go round.

        Hatoo Burhanakum Inkutum Sadiqeen.

        Other than that I bid you As salamu ‘alikum

  2. Abdullah

    Salaam Alaykum brothers,

    I thought I’d share my humble 2 cents opinion in this matter regarding apostasy laws.

    May Allah bless you all and just wanted to say this is a well written article MaaShaaAllah. I totally agree with you brother when you said: “The question is why would Allah (swt) speak so strongly against hypocrisy and yet institute a law that would strongly encourage it”? I totally see your point here because FORCING people back into the deen will by logic only increase hypocrisy in society. And surely people who are forced back ONLY do so because they value their lives!

    You also said: “We brought to you the words of Allah (SWT) a revelation that is consistent with itself”. I mean common people, isn’t the Words of our creator sufficient?? No no brother! you see we need the scholars, and Madhhanbs, and Tafsirs, and opinions, and Hadith to clear up His Words rite? I Don’t think so! By the way, The Qur’an makes it clear that it was NONE other than the learned people (The scholars) who corrupted the texts in previous nations. This was because of their jealousy and enmity for one an other. But of course history doesn’t repeat itself rite?

    When I read the Qur’an, I believe it’s absolutely clear (Kitaabul Mubeen). Allah (SWT) makes it clear that no one is forced into religion! I mean I don’t understand how we can make Dawah by inviting them to leave their religion but if a muslim does this, he’s killed for it. Isn’t this double standards? Allah (SWT) stands not in need of the Aalameen! He does not need people to join His deen, we human being’s are in need of Him! And He has given us a brain to see what is true and what is false. But of course only scholars can tell us how to use our brains rite?

    There is no death penalty for apostasy brothers even if it’s the majority opinion! The Qur’an is absolutely clear about this so scholars can go barking all day long with their opinions! May Allah Bless us and guide us all!

    Jazaakum Allahu Feekum.

    • Walakum salaam brother Abdullah.

      “I totally see your point here because FORCING people back into the deen will by logic only increase hypocrisy in society. And surely people who are forced back ONLY do so because they value their lives!”
      Thank you brother. The Creator gives us that which is logical and filled with mercy. Those who leave Islam we know where they stand, we can keep relations with them, and show compassion and mercy as they may come back. As the verse clearly shows those that believe, than disbelieve than believe.

      Where as the scholars encourage a system of hypocrisy, in which people not loyal to Islam are forced back into its ranks. What is to keep these people from saying, “Fine they wan’t me to be a Muslim I’ll show them.” And than this person does something diabolical with in the ranks of the Muslims.

      “May Allah Bless and guide us all!” Ameen!

  3. Abdullah

    Salaam alaykum akhi,

    This is totally off the topic of apostacy but I was wondering if you would write an article regarding Ma Malakat Aymanukum (usually translated as those whom your right hands possess)? This surely is a highly controversial issue where classical and moderate scholars have had conflicting views. Some say it means slaves, some say captives, some say its people who live under your protection, etc.

    Brother Joseph Islam has written a brilliant article regarding this and concludes that you can ONLY ever have relations with someone under a marriage contract. This makes perfect sense and he puts forth all the verses to support his views. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the topic.

    Here’s Joseph Islam’s article:
    http://quransmessage.com/articles/sex%20with%20slave%20girls%20FM3.htm

    Jazaakim Allahu Khayr.

    • walakum salaam warahmutallahi wabaraktuh respected brother.

      Insh’Allah, I have some things lined up. I think I need to make a section of things I am currently working on. Also include in that section recommended readings, video’s I have been asked to watch so that none of the readers think that I am ignoring them. Insh’Allah.

      This is assuredly an important issue as it led to one of our dear beloved brothers coming on YouTube and saying that he could no longer identify himself as a Muslim.

      May Allah (swt) soften his heart and bring back conviction and strength to him!

      wa iyyakum.

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