Is Allah every where?

Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

This entry is a refutation of those Muslims who hold the view that Allah (swt) is everywhere.

They may rely upon the following proof text:

 

It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what descends from the heaven and what ascends therein, and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah, of what you do, is Seeing.” (Qur’an 57:4)

 

Have you not considered that Allah knows what is in the heavens and what is on the earth? There is in no private conversation three but that He is the fourth of them, nor are there five but that He is the sixth of them – and no less than that and no more except that He is with them wherever they are. Then He will inform them of what they did, on the Day of Resurrection. Indeed Allah is, of all things, Knowing.” (Qur’an 58:7)

 

And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.” (Qur’an 2:115)

In the Ibadi school, we understand that Allah (swt) has full power and knowledge of all things. We do not believe that Allah (swt) is omnipresent.

A text that contradicts the belief that Allah (swt) is everywhere is the following:

 

Nay, when the earth has been pounded with a great pounding and your Lord and the angels come row upon row.” (Qur’an 89:21-22)

If Allah (swt) is everywhere it would make little sense to believe that our Allah (swt) would ‘come‘ to a place he already ‘is‘.

 

It is He who created for you all that the earth contains: then He turned to the heavens and made them seven skies-and He is the Knower of All Things.” (Qur’an 2:29)

If Allah (swt) is everywhere it would make little sense to believe that Allah (swt) would ‘turn‘ anywhere, for he is already ‘there‘.

 

Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

 

The verse above absolutely demolishes any concept of Allah (swt) resembling the creations. This shows that Allah (swt) exists without a place because whatever exists in a place is by nature composed of particles, body, occupying space. Allah (swt) is clear of occupying space, rather it is one place (the throne) or (every place).

 

The very idea of ‘where‘ is Allah (swt) is inappropriate.

 

All the above verses that quote Allah (swt) being ‘with you wherever you are’, or Allah (swt) ‘turning’ or Allah (swt) ‘coming’ are all interpreted using the sound principles embedded in the Arabic language in a way that conforms to Qur’an 42:11.

We also have two very important pieces of information. One from Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib (r.a) and the other from the Blessed Messenger (saw).

 

The saying “Allah existed eternally without a place, and He is now as He ever was” is related – without chain – from ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib (r.a)

Sources: (Ibn ‘Ata’ Allah al-Sakandari (d. 709) cites it as one of his Hikam (#34). As cited by ‘Abd al-Qahir al-Baghdadi (d. 429) in his al-Farq Bayn al-Firaq page. 256)

 

We also have from the Blessed Messenger (saw) who is reported to have said: “Allah was when there was nothing else than Him, and His Throne was upon the water, and He wrote in the Reminder (al-dhikr) all things, and he created the heavens and the earth.”

 

Source: (Narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn by al-Bukhari, in the Book of the Beginning of Creation.)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/2

 

Some people especially perennialist may like to argue that Allah (swt) is everywhere because it will end up supporting concepts like pantheism or pan-deism. Everywhere is basically pantheism or pan-deism. Allah (swt) exist as he was before all Creation (time/space).

 

Our position is what Imam Ali (r.a) stated, “Allah existed eternally without a place, and He is now as He ever was”.”

 

Allah (swt) is eternal and if Allah (swt) is omnipresent it would entail that everything is eternal. If the answer to that is that “It’s all the energy of Allah (swt)” It would entail that Allah (swt) changes, becomes more or less. It would entail that Allah (swt) is in Iblis, Demons, etc…authubillah min dhalik!

 

The other question for those who believe in the omnipresence of Allah (swt) is to ask them:

Is Allah (swt) fully present or partially present? What proof text would be offered to show ‘fully‘ or ‘partially‘?

Why not fully present? If fully present than why is it wrong to worship idols, Jesus, Iblis, Demons, or anything for that matter? Authubillah min dhalik!

If Allah (swt) is only partially present where is the other part that isn’t there?  

 

The belief of Muslims is that Allah (swt) is not present in all of his Creation nor that Allah (swt) is his creation or that Allah (swt) became the universe.

 

All will perish except His face.” (Qur’an 28:88) If This verse is taken by its apparent meaning, it would indicate that that the Creator would increase or decrease. If the universe or reality ‘expands‘ or ‘retreats‘ it entails that the Creator ‘expands‘ or ‘retreats‘.

 

The only challenge to Allah as a “being” that I am aware of is Process Theology (or Process Theism) in Christianity where they state: “God is becoming” not being.

 

The irony is that the one opening for process theology in Islam is the following hadith Qudsi:

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, (saw), said, “Allah Almighty said: The son of Adam abuses me. He curses time and I am time. In my hand are the night and day.”

Source: (Al Bukhari 4549, and Muslim 2246)

 

The irony here is that this one opening also defeats process theology of becoming a reality among Muslims. It defeats the whole idea of ‘becoming‘ if you are omnipresent or time itself. Glory be to Allah!!  

 

And when Musa came at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said: My Lord! Show me (Yourself), so that I may look upon You. He said: You will not see Me but look at the mountain if it remains firm in its place, then will you see Me; but when his Lord manifested His glory to the mountain He made it crumble and Musa fell down in a swoon; then when he recovered, he said: Glory be to You, I turn to Thee, and I am the first of the believers.” (Qur’an 7:143)

Know that the creation cannot contain the Creator not is the Creator present in the Creation. 

 

 

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2 responses to “Is Allah every where?

  1. al-Tamili

    “Imam” Ali ibn Abi Talib??? I had thought Ibadis don’t like Ali and that you don’t consider him to be rightly-guided. What exactly is the position of Ibadis regarding Ali ibn Abi Talib, as a narrator in hadith, as a caliph, as a Muslim?

    • This is why I hope you will read more of the articles here.

      The majority sect has misrepresented us on a number of issues again and again and again.

      We dissociated ourselves from Uthman, Ali, and Muawiyah not on religious grounds but
      on political grounds. In our main hadith collection Musnad of Imam Rabii
      both Ali (r.a) and Uthman (r.a) are relied upon for hadith transmission.

      An example:

      hadith no 124 “Jabir bin Zaid said:
      I have been informed that Ali bin Abi Talib broke one of his forearms
      and asked the Prophet (saw) if he can wipe the splint, the Prophet (saw) said, ‘Yes’.”

      As far as the first four Caliphs the truth be told we are the only group to recognize all four.
      The Uthmaniyyun who are the real Khawarij (those who went out) they accuse Shi’a of not recognizing
      the first three Caliphs Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman, forgetting they themselves never recognized Ali (r.a).

      They fought and opposed him untli his death.

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