Flawed Reasoning & Faulty Logic & Cop Outs. Why Jews Don’t Accept Jesus as Messiah

And He will teach him writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel (Qu’ran 3:48)

 

We know that the Jesus of the New Testament is not the one mentioned by Allah in the Qur’an. We know this because the Jesus of the New Testament is not only extremely unwise, but he obviously cannot be God, deity or divine essence as he uses extremely poor reasoning.

 

Christians tell us that one of the biggest proofs that Jesus is legitimate is because of his miracles.  His greatest miracle they allege is that Jesus rose from the dead.

 

However, perhaps the biggest let down is the fact that none of us alive where there to witness this so-called miracle.  We have to rely upon narratives constructed about the events and handed down to us.  Where was the greatest miracle of the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) is the Qur’an.  You can examine the Qur’an. It is tangible. You can pour over its contents and reflect upon it and ultimately decide rather or not this came from the Creator of the universe. At the very least you have something tangible. Unfortunately the same can not be said of the so called “resurrection”.   

 

Now if Jesus was indeed doing miracles and this was becoming known his rivals who also believe in the supra-natural would have to construct some kind of argument to make Jesus look false. So one of those charges is the charge of sorcery, and magic. That Jesus was able to do these things because in reality he was an agent of Satan.   

 

In fact, interestingly the Qur’an speaks to this in a way that the New Testament does not.

 

“O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to you and your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the holy spirit, so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! You make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathed into it and it became a bird by My leave, and you healed those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! You bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) you when you did show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’ (Qur’an 5:110)

 

“And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!” (Qur’an 61:6)

I think it is both interesting and telling that the Qur’an has two places in which the children of Israel accuse Jesus of magic or sorcery. 

The mishna teaches that a crier goes out before the condemned man. This indicates that it is only before him, i.e., while he is being led to his execution, that yes, the crier goes out, butfrom the outset, before the accused is convicted, he does not go out. The Gemara raises a difficulty: But isn’t it taught in a baraita: On Passover Eve they hung the corpse of Jesus the Nazarene after they killed him by way of stoning. And a crier went out before him for forty days, publicly proclaiming: Jesus the Nazarene is going out to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited people to idol worship, and led the Jewish people astray. Anyone who knows of a reason to acquit him should come forward and teach it on his behalf.And the court did not find a reason to acquit him, and so they stoned him and hung his corpse on Passover eve.“

Source: [ https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.43a ]

 

What is curious is the faulty reasoning that the Jesus of the New Testament gives in response to these allegations.

 

If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons drive them out? So then, they will be your judges? But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.” (Matthew 12:26-28) 

The reasoning given by Jesus here is logically faulty. It clearly has huge holes in it. 

 

1) It assumes that that kingdom of Satan is divided and that the whole act isn’t a charade to begin with.

 

How do we know that Satan isn’t the one actually driving out the demons in order for the people to falsely accept this Jesus?  It could be a ruse. The demons are working together and putting on an act.

 

2) It gives lie to the idea that the kingdom of Satan cannot be divided. Why can’t it be? The kingdom of God was divided once. 

And there was WAR IN HEAVEN. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.” (Revelation 12:7)

 

Think about it, if Satan wanted the throne of God, is it beyond reason to think that other Demons would challenge Satan for his kingdom?

 

3) Jesus admission that ” by whom do your sons drive them out” Which is a clear admission by Jesus that he was aware that the sons of the Chief Priest/Rabbi’s were casting out demons.   Which also ironically portrays this Jesus as ignorant of the test in Deuteronomy 13:1-5.  and that prophet, Or that dreamer of dreams, Shall be put to death;

Not only is the response of the Jesus of the New Testament logically fallacious it seems odd given that according to Christians (that he is God in essence) that he would have forgotten about  his little rendezvous with the prophets of Baal. 

1 Kings 18:25-40

New International Version

Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.”So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the Lord, which had been torn down. Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord had come, saying, “Your name shall be Israel.”With the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs of seed. He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, “Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”

Do it again,” he said, and they did it again.

Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time. The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.

At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.

Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”

Then Elijah commanded them, “Seize the prophets of Baal. Don’t let anyone get away!” They seized them, and Elijah had them brought down to the Kishon Valley and slaughtered there.   

 

Comments: 

Notice that this Jesus is a far cry from Elijah the Prophet. The Jesus of the New Testament will be issuing no such challenges. Instead of using faulty logic and very poor reasoning skills (which you can imagine convinced no one) Jesus could have -ala-Clint Eastwood style challenged anyone around to an Ejijah style duel. He dared not do any such thing.

So Elijah calls upon God and he is answered. Where as Jesus cries out, “My God, My God why have you forsaken me.”  Can you imagine if God didn’t consume Elijah’s sacrifice and he was just left there looking dumbstruck in front of everyone? Notice also that Elijah didn’t get any reprimand for “testing God”. 

 

 

Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego & the Flaming Furnace. 


Furious with rage, Nebuchadnezzar summoned Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. So these men were brought before the king,  and Nebuchadnezzar said to them, “Is it true, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the image of gold I have set up?  Now when you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, if you are ready to fall down and worship the image I made, very good. But if you do not worship it, you will be thrown immediately into a blazing furnace. Then what god will be able to rescue you from my hand?”

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter.  If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us from Your Majesty’s hand. But even if he does not, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”

Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. The king’s command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace.

Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, “Weren’t there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire?”

They replied, “Certainly, Your Majesty.”

He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”

Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, “Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here!”

So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire, and the satraps, prefects, governors and royal advisers crowded around them. They saw that the fire had not harmed their bodies, nor was a hair of their heads singed; their robes were not scorched, and there was no smell of fire on them.

Then Nebuchadnezzar said, “Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king’s command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God. Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way.” 

Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the province of Babylon. (Daniel 3:13-40)

 

Comments:  Notice that God didn’t see these men as testing God. These men, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were thrown in a blazing hot furnace in front of all and sundry. They were saved and apparently Nebuchadnezzar converts to Judaism (though we have no historical evidence of this). Interestingly, Nebuchadnezzar also says that anyone who speaks against the God of these men will be ‘cut into pieces’ and you don’t see Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego advising against this. So apparently God(Father, Son, Holy Spirit)  was quite o.k with it.

 

This is why the Jesus of the New Testament even backs down from a challenge from Satan himself! It honestly does not get anymore pathetic than that. In fact in response, the Jesus of the New Testament misquotes scripture to save face!

 

Jesus replied, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'” (Matthew 4:7)

But Jesus declared, “It also says, ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'” (Luke 4:12)

 

When actually what the scripture says is:

 

You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, AS YOU TESTED him at Massah.” (Deuteronomy 6:16)

 

So it is not that you can’t Test God, but that you cannot test God as you did at Massah. 

“And he gave that place the name Massah and Meribah, because the children of Israel were angry, and because they put the Lord to the test, saying, Is the Lord with us or not?” (Exodus 17:7) 

 

The Bible is absolutely silent about the test here but the Qur’an informs us about the repeated request to see God plainly. The very heart of the request of Atheism itself.

 

As regards the Jews and the New Testament Jesus can anyone blame them? Flawed reasoning. Faulty Logic, Cop outs. In the end they report he wasn’t rescued from death. 

 

 Please read: https://primaquran.com/2020/07/27/the-ibadi-view-from-the-quran-and-sunnah-will-we-ever-see-allah/ 

& https://primaquran.com/2019/05/17/a-jewish-argument-against-the-quran/

 

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