Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan did not refute the Ibadi

“Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is guided” (Qur’an 16:125)

There are so many people on social media these days saying this person refuted so and so. This Shaykh said this. However, upon a closer look you see that nothing of the kind too place. Let me say this the books of Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The People of Truth and Uprightness) they are banned in Saudi Arabia. While there are Shaykhs giving fatwa about drinking beer, and more and more concerts are planned.

Some Muslims have a deep resentment towards Saudi Arabia. I, however, do not. They have kept the sacred trust of Mecca and ensuring the safety of the pilgrims as well as maintaining the city of Madinah. Saudi Arabia is also one of the safest countries in the world. I hope for them peace and prosperity; I just hope that it does not come at the expense of the moral compass of the society.

Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan didn’t refute the Ibadi! He didn’t refute anything!!

Jahmi say that heaven and hell will disappear soon or later. They say Allah (swt ) is every where, and we do not say this.

“The knowledgeable ones in Oman are predominantly Ibadi’s. And the Ibadiyyah are a sect from the Khawarij. And Ahmed Ibn Hamad al-Khalili (Grand Mufti of Oman) is their Imam. And his writings entail the Madhab of the Khawarij and the Madhab of the Jahmiyyah. He has very evil writings! Do not take knowledge from him! Rather take knowledge from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’ah. Yes.” -Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

My response:

What can we say? Ahmed Ibn Hamad al-Khalili (hafidhullah) has written numerous works and none of that is a secret. So which books or writings of books of Shaykh al-Khalili (hafidhullah) did Shaykh Salih al Fawzan refute? None! Which shows that these people who made this video are even willing to lie about their own Shaykh! They even made a lie upon Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan because he didn’t refute absolute jack!

@0:56 Then the producers claim that Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan “refutes the creed of the Ibadiyyah!”

Questioner: “Esteemed Shaykh, who are the Ibadiyyah sect? And is it obligatory to warn against them?”

“The Ibadiyyah are a subsect from the Khawarij (renegades) and are followers of a man named Abdullah Ibn Ibad. They are a sect from the Khawarij. Yes.” -Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

My response:

The students of Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan should ask him what books and writings of ‘Abdullah Ibn Ibad‘ (rahemullah) is he familiar with? In what way do we follow him? What are the proofs and evidences?

Questioner: “Esteemed Shaykh, are the Ibadiyyah sect from the followers of Sufism?”

“The Ibadiyyah are from the Khawarij (renegades) & they have extremism upon the Madhab of the Khawarij, The Ibadiyyah make Takfeer upon those who commit major sins other than Shirk, and they believe that the sinful (Muslims) will reside in the hellfire forever. This is from the beliefs of the Khawarij. They are followers of a man named Abdullah Ibn Ibad. They are a sect from the Khawarij.” -Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

“And they (the Ibadiyyah) say that the Qur’an is created, upon the Madhab of the Jahmiyyah. They combine between the beliefs of the Jahmiyyah and the Khawarij. Yes.” -Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

My response:

and they believe that the sinful (Muslims) will reside in the hellfire forever.” Actually, we do not believe that the believers go to hell at all! Does Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan have a single verse from the Qur’an that says the believers got to hell or leave the hell? “They say that the Qur’an is created.” That is because the Qur’an is created!

In fact on this subject a golden opportunity was presented to Shaykh Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz to expose Shaykh Ahmed ibn Hamad Al Khalili (hafidullah) and by extension the belief that the Qur’an is created as false. However, ibn Baz backed down!

It is attributed to the Blessed Messenger (saw)
“Whoever guides someone to goodness will have a reward like the one who did it.” [Sahih Muslim] What a missed opportunity!

Questioner: “Does the creed of the Ibadiyyah entail disbelief? And if someone prays Salah behind the Ibadi’s, should he repeat his Salah?”

“It is well known that the Ibadiyyah say that the Qur’an is created. They utter the speech the Jahmiyyah. The Salah is not valid behind anyone who says that the Qur’an is created. Yes.” -Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

My response:

Does having similar beliefs to a particular group of Muslims make one from among them? What kind of logic is that?! This must mean that Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan utters the speech of the Jahmiyyah because they believe that the Blessed Messenger (saw) is a Prophet of Allah (swt). Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan also believes this. So does this mean that Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan =a Jahmi?

The Jahmi believe that heaven and hell will disappear sooner or later. This is not our belief. The Jahmi believe that Allah (swt) is omnipresent and this is also not our belief. There are many more examples.

Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan is known to speak falsehood and attribute speculation about Allah (swt) and since his aqeedah errors are published and well known he should publicly repent!

For example: Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan when speaking about the Qur’an 4:157 says, “Allah made this man resemble the Messiah.” Meaning that Allah (swt) made some random person to look like Jesus. However, Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan, nor his students can produce any proof for this speculative assumption from the Qur’an or the Sunnah!

In summary Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan only warned his denomination about Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The people of truth and steadfastness) . He gave absolutely no refutations. Do not get it twisted!

Let us demonstrate how a refutation is done,

We will do this by refuting Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan’s speculation concerning Allah (swt) having two eyes.

Step 1)

Make your intention for the sake of Allah (swt) the purpose is not to glorify your ego but to establish the truth so that the people maybe guided.

Step 2)

You give the position of the other side. You do not edit, cut out or censor them. Lay out their evidence from their own sources. This is done like this…observe….

Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan’s speculation concerning Allah (swt) having two eyes is based upon the following pieces of evidence:

Questioner ask: “Sheikh may Allah grant you success. In the hadith of the Prophet (saw) “And indeed your Lord is not one eyed.” Is this evidence for the attribute of the two eyes of Allah?”

Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan replies “Yes, Ahlus-Sunnah-Wa-Al-Jamaa’ah derive from it the affirmation of the two eyes of Allah. If God is not one-eyed, so then the meaning of it is that He has two eyes, yes.”

Questioner ask: “And is there another evidence (that is) more sufficient than this?”

Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan replies: “In the Qur’an “Which sailed on before Our eyes, as a reward for someone who has been rejected.” [Qur’an 54:14]

“Cast him into the chest, and toss it into the river. The current will throw him up on the shore where an enemy of Mine as well as an enemy of him will pick him up. I have lavished love of My own on you so that you are brought up under my two eyes.” [Qur’an 20:39]

Step 3)

Refutation. Show how the opposing sides conclusions are flawed. We will do this now.

“And they have thereof no knowledge. They follow not except assumption, and indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all.” (Qur’an 53:28)

For the first evidence:

What they do is rely upon the following hadith:

The Prophet (saw) said, “Allah did not send any prophet but that he warned his nation of the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed, The word ‘Kafir’ (unbeliever) is written between his two eyes.”

Source: (al-Bukhārī 7408)

My response:

From they deduce that Allah (swt) must have two eyes. In the above hadith, they rely upon reason and speculation!! The very thing they accuse others of doing. No where does that hadith say that Allah (swt) has two eyes.

The second evidence:

“In the Qur’an “Which sailed on before Our eyes, as a reward for someone who has been rejected.” [Qur’an 20:39]

My response:

From they deduce that Allah (swt) must have two eyes. In the above passage of the Qur’an they rely upon reason and speculation!! The very thing they accuse others of doing. No where does that text of the Qur’an does it say that Allah (swt) has two eyes. Even if they don’t want to allow for the fact that the Arabs in the time of the Blessed Messenger (saw) were masters of their language and understood fully idiom and expression and even if you want to take the literal meaning “Our eyes” is an unspecified number!

The third evidence used:

“Cast him into the chest, and toss it into the river. The current will throw him up on the shore where an enemy of Mine as well as an enemy of him will pick him up. I have lavished love of My own on you so that you are brought up under my two eyes.” [Qur’an 20:39]

My response:

First of all these people lie upon their own Shaykh! Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan did not say ‘two‘ eyes. Even if he did in another speech or book then he has attributed to Allah (swt) speculative theology. Look at the two Saudi backed translations of the Qur’an into English.

Which word in the Qur’anic Arabic text is the word ‘two‘? https://quran.com/20:39?store=false&translations=20,203

Even if they don’t want to allow for the fact that the Arabs in the time of the Blessed Messenger (saw) were masters of their language and understood fully idiom and expression and even if you want to take the literal meaning the translation “Two eyes” is a flat lie! There is no word ‘two‘ in the Arabic text. Not only that but they are in a real pickle now! Because the text says, ‘eye‘ and other text says ‘our eyes‘. This is what happens when you do not understand language, idiom and expression.

You see this is a very different situation then the following text of the Qur’an:

“And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is tied up.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His Hands are extended, He spends however He wills…” (Qur’an 5:64)

Even if they don’t want to allow for the fact that the Arabs in the time of the Blessed Messenger (saw) were masters of their language and understood fully idiom and expression and even if you want to take the literal meaning the translation as ‘both‘ they have scope to say that Allah (swt) has two hands. Yet they have absolutely no proof that Allah (swt) has ‘two‘ eyes. Their position would have been more consistent if they simply stated: “We believe that Allah has eyes.” They could have done that without specifying a number.

That my friends is how a refutation is done.

I have done my level best to defend the honour of Shaykh Ahmed ibn Hamad Al Khalili (hafidullah). In reality he does not need my defense. His defense is the Qur’an and the Sunnah! I have also done my level best in defending again the slander against our brothers, the Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The People of Truth and Steadfastness)

May Allah (swt) continue to guide us all to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

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