“O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor, Allah is best to ensure their interests. So do not let your desires cause you to deviate ˹from justice˺. If you distort the testimony or refuse to give it, then ˹know that˺ Allah is certainly All-Aware of what you do.” (Qur’an 4:135)
It seems that if the recent twitter spat between Greta Thunberg and Emory Tate has lead to the arrest of the latter.
I cannot say that I am a huge fan of either of them. Both of them used sexual references when attacking each other during the exchange. Emory who for some reason seemingly is not proud to go by the same name as his own father, uses his middle name ‘Andrew’. Emory used a sexual reference disguised as a double entendre to to tease Greta.
His initial tweet under the moniker ‘Andrew Tate’ stated:
@GretaThunberg I have 33 cars. My Bugatti has a w16 8.0L quad turbo. My TWO Ferrari 812 competizione have 6.5L v12s. This is just the start. Please provide your email address so I can send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions.
The ‘enormous emissions’ was the double entendre, which given its implied sexual connotation is inappropriate for a Muslim to use.
Greta replied with:
“yes, please do enlighten me. email me at firstname.lastname@example.org”
It was in this exchange that Emory states in a video:
“Please bring me pizza and make sure that these boxes are not recycled.”
To which Greta had the final say:
“this is what happens when you don’t recycle your pizza boxes” and the man with 33 cars was taken off the road just like that!
Now, it does just that Emory was not very clever here. Also, of note is that many of his avid followers think that authorities would have been alerted automatically if Emory and his brother had entered the country via the airport (assuming that is how they entered). This is not necessarily the case.
We are not talking about the world’s 100 top most wanted individuals, where Interpol would have tight coordination. Individuals with arrest warrants enter in and out of countries all the time.
What makes this whole situation poetic justice and a bit bizarre is that there is a growing movement and awareness in the United States and other countries in what is popularly known as ‘pizza gate’. Commonly used as a rallying cry by the political right against the left, it is now believed that people across the political spectrum have done back door dealings, where there were incidents of pedophilia and coerced sexual exploration.
One of the lynch pins of this is a man who was believed to have been murdered in his jail cell, one Jeffry Epstein:
The most telling aspect of this is that there was a woman behind the scenes who was making money off of exploiting other women. This is something that needs to be taken note of. Many times people think it is only men behind sexual exploration of women, when in reality there is a very well paid woman who becomes the ‘face’ of such operations. She is the one who lures such women to be in these awful situations.
Then fans of Emory “Andrew” Tate started to post fake news that Emory had been released from jail. Even, if that was the case that would not mean that he would be innocent.
In short let me say this in fairness to Emory and his brother and whomever else.
- Being arrested or detained in jail does not mean one is guilty of anything. It is a judge and/or jury in a court of law that determines this.
- Being released from jail detainment does not mean one is innocent.
Being released from jail/detainment could mean that one simply posted bond, or are willing to cooperate with authorities to bring down others who are involved in more offensive crimes, or that in this case Emory and his brother are not a flight risk or will not abscond.
However, a dear sister in Islam had pointed out to me the following:
“The controversial British-American influencer Andrew Tate will be held in detention in Romania for 30 days, after a court agreed to a police request.“
Tate was arrested alongside his brother Tristan on Thursday as part of an investigation into allegations of human trafficking and rape, which they deny.
Authorities suspect the pair, along with two Romanian men, of running an “an organised crime group”.
Tristan, and two others, were also detained by the court in Bucharest.
Outside the court, the Tates’ lawyer, Eugen Vidineac, said they would appeal against the detention.
“We are not at a stage where guilt or innocence is proven, for now we only discuss preventive measures,” he added. Mr Vidineac told the BBC his clients reject all the allegations.
Andrew Tate, 36, has yet to comment directly on the accusations.
But after being detained, a tweet was sent from his Twitter account alluding to the 1999 movie The Matrix.
“The Matrix sent their agents,” the post said. The account also retweeted Matrix memes posted by Twitter owner Elon Musk.
During the detention hearing, the two brothers maintained their right to silence, their lawyer told the BBC.
Earlier, a police spokesperson told the BBC that the 36-year-old would be held at a “detention centre”.
On Thursday night, Romania’s Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism issued a statement, but did not name the Tate brothers, stating that two British citizens and two Romanian citizens were suspected of being part of a human trafficking group.
The statement said officers had identified six people who were allegedly “sexually exploited” by what it called an “organised criminal group”.
Prima Quran comments:
Maintaining the right to silence can be seen as an admission of guilt in some countries. For example, in Singapore you do not have ‘the right to remain silent’ but you can refrain from stating anything that can admit your culpability.
Also, a very good lawyer can get charges dismissed (even when guilty) if the evidence by the prosecution is not strong, or has holes in it.
Likewise, a very bad lawyer who doesn’t argue well on your behalf could get you prosecuted even in the face of flimsy evidence.
So I am going to try and call it down the middle and be as objective as I can about claims going on around the internet. Point/counterpoint.
Claim: Emory Andrew Tate predicted that he would be arrested before it happened.
Prima-Qur’an response: If a person knows that they did an offence in a particular country or anywhere, than this does not make Emory clairvoyant it is simply a recognition by him that one day he will have to face the music.
Claim: Emory Andrew Tate posted clips of Romania prior to the non halal pizza box, so ultimately it was not Greta who took him down.
Prima-Qur’an response: While it is true that Emory posted clips of Romania, prior to the non halal pizza box post, those clips do nothing to establish a date or a time. I could post tomorrow a clip the country side of Thailand, and I could be in Nepal.
Why I personally believe that the non halal pizza box, with the QR code in plain sight was THE tip off that Interpol needed is the following:
There are a total of 18 non halal Jerry’s Pizza’s in Romania. The QR code is a great identifier.
Trying to determine based off a video if Emory was in Romania at a given time is not easy. Triangulating when/where he is based off process of elimination using 18 non halal Jerry’s Pizza locations.
Emory Tate and Muslims. Issues of concern.
You see, I believe that Emory does make some good points here and there, when he speaks about feminism and the situation of modern society. However, even Iblis makes some good points.
“I will approach them from their front, their back, their right, their left, and then You will find most of them ungrateful.” (Qur’an 7:17)
What is concerning is that our young men are so lost is that they will latch on to anything that Emory says, that they will defend even the inappropriate. It is my hope that if his conversion to Islam is sincere, that he would have good teachers and those who can instruct him into the way of right conduct.
The example for us as men, is the Blessed Messenger, the Prophet Muhammed (saw). It is not myself, or Emory, or any Imam, Shaykh, Ayatollah, celebrity, self help guru etc.
“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21)
Emory Tate also made a statement about marriage that any self respecting Muslim man would have given him a tight back hand across the mouth for uttering. That statement is:
The Taliban would remove his head from his shoulders for insulting the Blessed Messenger (saw), who not only married but had many wives, as well as it being half of the fulfilment of one’s Islam to get married.
There is nothing more Anti-Islamic, Anti-Muslim, and Anti-Family than such a puerile statement.
Although, he did not drink alcohol, for a new convert to Islam the picture makes for an inappropriate photo op.
The other thing that has to be cleared up because of the fact it has not been cleared up and many people are ignorant, is that Emory made what I believe to be a public gaffe. In one of his interviews when he ask about his conversion to Islam, Emory replies:
“Christianity and Islam have a lot in common they worship a lot of the same people.”
I believe that not being confident to talk about the subject and being nervous he made a gaffe. He most likely intended to say that Christianity and Islam revere a lot of the same people. That would be true. However, No Muslims do not worship people, or any person. We and the Christians certainly do not worship, “the same people.” We, as Muslims worship Allah (swt).
Allah (swt) is not a person, or a man, or a woman, and Allah (swt) does not have corporeality.
In regards to his financial empire, I do not believe Muslims have asked significant questions in regards to this and how he made his money.
A publication that features celebrities and their net worth put Emory Andrew Tate at a networth of around 50 million dollars. In the end his fans were not very happy with this and suggested he has a networth of around 300 million. So “celebrityworth” published this:
So between making money from kick boxing.
His 50$ dollars a month discord server which offers men advise (they could get for free on the internet).
The gambling casino in Romania.
The web cam business with women in lingerie
They also welcomed the challenge for anyone to substantially prove his networth. Claims are one thing, facts another.
Emory Tate is now 36 years of age, he claims that there is nothing more gay than getting married. Yet, time and time again he speaks of his children and his progeny. How will that happen without marrying a woman? If Emory Tate dies tomorrow, he will son be forgotten, like Prince, Michael Jackson and a litany of others. No children, no family of his own. Just allot of conquest with a string of women whom he cannot confidently say didn’t just sleep with him because of money. Has nothing to do with looks, or charisma, he knows full well that women sleep with high status (meaning men with lots of money) the world over.
It says nothing about you as a person, or what qualities you bring to the table.
Any Muslim brother reading this. I understand that you identity with his points against feminism, and especially the radical feminist. Yet, any self respecting man is not going to take advice about women from a man who has never been married and has no children. He is simply not relatable.
Finally in closing, as far as his current detainment and upcoming trial maybe we find out that this man was fooling the lot of you. That he was wearing a very dark mask all this time. Maybe, in a place like Romania, that is rife with human trafficking’s, Emory and his brother did some very dark deeds. Maybe that non halal pizza box is an ayat (sign) from Allah (swt)?
Maybe, just maybe those women are just making allegations and they are bitter that they didn’t get more money. It could go either way.
Hopefully this is not an act. Hopefully brother Emory does choose not to just claim himself as a Muslim but does his best to mold his character and behavior as that of a Muslim. If, not than he just as much a part of the Matrix that he claims he is against.
If he is just using Muslim men and Muslim youth…than maybe he really is the ‘Top G’ but not the kind you think….
May Allah (swt) guide Emory and guide us!