“Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)
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May Allah (swt) guide this Ummah! May Allah (swt) forgive this Ummah! The people of innovation and desires will not stop in their likening of Allah (swt) to his creation.
They will not stop in making claims about Allah (swt) and in the very next breath disavowing those claims with their bid’a and innovated disclaimers: “In a way that befits his majesty.”
They spread statements from the scholars of their sect without thinking through the ramifications.
Such that Allah (swt) is 60 cubits tall -“In a way that befits his majesty.”
Allah (swt) rides on a whale (made out of light) -“In a way that befits his majesty.”
The following video will lay bare why these people struggle in the fundamentals of our religion and are confused about matters where in there should be clarity. I honestly do not fault our brother Faris; as the majority of them simply do taqlid (blindly follow) as you will see he defers to a scholar whom he trust and relies upon to give the information. That scholar himself makes a major blunder.
“The brothers asking about Sahih Muslim. The hadith in Sahih Muslim 2841 and this hadith SubhanAllah there’s statement that it can be problematic to the people who do not have enough knowledge in the attributes of Allah azzawajal and how do we understand the attributes of our Lord azzawajal yeah? And that’s why I always say this and I stress this point that you have to refer back to the authentic scholars to understand the hadith correctly or else you’re going to fall into doubts yeah?
It can be some statements can be mutashabih (allegorical). It can you know mean different things. Taib? Anyway, let me read the hadith first. Allah azza…(corrects himself)… The Prophet (saw) said: Allah The Exalted and Glorious created Adam in his image, Yani in Allah’s image. and his length Adam’s length is 60 cubits. And as he created him he told him I’ll say it briefly here. He told him to go to a group of angels in heaven. He told him to go to a group of angels and greet them. Yeah? Greet them and Allah told Adam listen to their response. Yani Allah is teaching Adam somethings. So he went to greet them and he said: “As salamu ‘alikum” -peace be upon you. So the angels replied back to Adam. “walakum salaam warahmatullah” -peace and uh peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah. and so they added ‘the mercy of Allah’ Then the Prophet (saw) So He anybody who would get into paradise would get into the form of Adam.
When we go to paradise Insh’Allah we become from Ahl Jannah (People of Paradise) in length we are 60 cubits yeah? We are 60 cubits and we are very tall, just like our father Adam (as). Then, the people who followed him continue to diminish in size up to this day. Yani, the people in this world in this life are diminishing in size uh until this day. And this is Yani, evident and we see this. Humans Yani, are slowly becoming weaker , smaller and all that. You know I think the hadith is clear.
But perhaps maybe the first statement where Allah azza(corrects himself) Where the Prophet sallahu alayi wa salam said khalaq alllah azz wajall adam ealaa suratih -Allah created Adam uhhh in his image. Some people what do they think they think in Adams image and this is wrong. This is wrong Uh it’s meant clear linguistically its meant that Allah created Adam in Allah’s image. In Allah’s image.
But what does that mean? Here is allamah Ibnul Baz and this is the correct understanding and interpretation of the hadith according to Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. The scholars of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. He (Ibnul Baz) said:
Yani it is not meant that Adam is similar to Allah No! And so Shaykh Allama Ibnul Baz what is he saying? He’s saying He created him in his image meaning that Adam has a face and Allah has a face. Adam speaks and Allah speaks. Adam has a hand and Allah has a hand. But than he said not his hands is similar to Allah’s hands. Because this is a creation and he is the Creator Azzwajal! So yes he has a hand but its different than our hand.
And As Allah said: laysa kamith’lihi shay -nothing is like Allah l-sami’u l-basir Taib! Allah hears and There’s nothing like Allah and he is all hearing and all..all seeing. We also see also hear is our hearing and our seeing same as Allah?
La! Refer to the beginning of the ayat laysa kamith’lihi shay-nothing is like Allah so this is the correct interpretation of this hadith -Allah knows best
Prima-Qur’an comments: This is full of errors. First they will quote the following verse from the Qur’an as if it some how makes them innocent of contradicting the very verse they quote!
“Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)
You cannot expect people to take you seriously when the claim is you are not doing tashbi and than turn around and do exactly that!
“It’s meant clear linguistically its meant that Allah created Adam in Allah’s image.”
“But what does that mean?”
“He’s saying: He created him in his image meaning that Adam has a face and Allah has a face. Adam speaks and Allah speaks. Adam has a hand and Allah has a hand.”
In this example of mirroring Adam (as) is used as the focal point to tell us about whom Allah (swt) is. This is clear tashbi.
Look again at the hadith in question:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (saw) as saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of” Mercy of Allah”. So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.
Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2841)
If you take the type of interpretation that their scholar gives you than than it means as Adam (as) is 60 cubits in height than Allah (swt) is 60 cubits in height. What ever Adam (as) has Allah (swt) also has -with the innovated and disclaimer statement: “In a way that befits his majesty.” This leads one to believe that Allah (swt) also has a nose, ears etc….
Furthermore, Ibn Jawzi relates:
“Al-Qadi Abu Bakr ibn al-Arabi says: “One of my shaykhs whom I consider trustworthy has related to me that Abu Ya’la used to say in relation to the meanings of Allah’s attributes: “No matter what justifications you give to me, I consider it necessary for Him to possess everything in the way of attributes, except a beard and genitals.”
Source: (Abu Bakr Ibn al-Arabi al-Awasim 2:283)
It may not be known through this type of misunderstanding that they have if Allah (swt) has a beard as it is not known that Adam (as) had a beard. However, since we know that Adam (as) had that which distinguishes him from the female but given Ibnul Baz interpretation Abu Ya’la is vindicated even excepting genitals (in a way that befits his majesty).
May Allah (swt) forgive us! May Allah (swt) guide us!
The other point is when you discuss statements attributed to the Blessed Messenger (saw) you need to bring all the relevant hadith on that subject which our brother Faris did not.
For example:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (saw) said, “Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, “Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring.” So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, “As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi” (i.e. Peace and Allah’s Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam’s salutation the expression, ‘Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,’ Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam’s creation.
Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3326)
Notice there is no mention of Adam (as) being created in the image/form/shape of Allah (swt)
This could be either a slip up on behalf of Abu Huraira or those who transmit from him.
Alas, Al Dhahabi warned people in his biography about companions (‘Siyar A’lam al-Nubala) that people would mix up narrations that Abu Huraira narrated from the Prophet (saw) with narrations that Abu Huraira would narrate from Ka’b (ra). So it is highly probable this hadith contains defect (‘illa) that only the very astute of hadith masters pick up on.
Ibn Hajar Al Asqlani also questioned the hadith because he did not conclude as Faris did that people are progressively getting smaller.
https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/ibn-hajar-al-asqalani-questions-hadith-about-90-foot-tall-adam/
Some among these people who claim they are bringing us authentic Islam, believe that this 60 cubit tall Prophet Muhammed (saw) will either be sitting on the throne with 60 cubit tall Allah (swt) or will be sitting next to the throne of Allah (swt).
Also Faris states: “according to Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. The scholars of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah.”
This is simply not true. What he means is in accordance with the scholars of his sect -which is part of a larger federation known as: ‘Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah’. They are certainly not in one accord on this matter.
Ibadi Muslims Dialogue with the Anthropomorphist.
*NOTICE* the above video is a illustration of an imaginary scenario that showcases the typical understanding of the Anthropomorphist and their Arguments, the original of this video is from the Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal series, where Imam al-Shafii debates some of the Mu’tazilites.
You may also be interested in reading the following:
https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/ahmed-deedat-roasting-athari-aqeedah/
May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.
May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.
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