“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.” (Qur’an 2:80-81)
“Allah effaces whatever He wills and retains whatever He wills. With Him is the Mother of the Book.” (Qur’an 13:39)
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Some questions/objections that are raised by some on this particular subject.
For us the matter is clear, crystal clear.
The hellfire is eternal for who ever enters it.
Our creed is taken from clear verses and not verses subject to multiple interpretations.
Objections are based upon interpretations or emotive in nature.
There is not a single verse anywhere in the Qur’an that believers (mumin) enter the hellfire.
There is not a single verse anywhere in the Qur’an that the ungrateful (kafir) enter heaven.
The Qur’an has to be in harmony with all its verses.
Allah has prescribed mercy for himself.
You often see this quoted in discussions about the eternal suffering of the kafir. However, you usually do not see the verse quoted in its fullness.
“When the believers in Our revelations come to you, say, “Peace be upon you! Your Lord has taken upon Himself to be Merciful. Whoever among you commits evil ignorantly then repents afterwards and mends their ways, then Allah is truly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 6:54)
“Say, “Unto whom belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and on the earth?” Say, “Unto Allah. He has prescribed Mercy for Himself. He will surely gather you on the Day of Resurrection, in which there is no doubt. Those who have lost their souls, they do not believe.” (Qur’an 6:12)
They will also quote the following hadith:
“Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “When Allah had finished His creation, He wrote over his Throne: ‘My Mercy preceded سَبَقَتْ (sabaqat) = preceded My Anger.’
When Allah created the creation as He was upon the Throne, He put down in His Book: Verily, My mercy predominates تَغْلِبُ (taghlibu) = prevails over / overcomesMy wrath.
First, it should be noted that none of those texts promise an eventual exit or release from hell at all. Neither do any of those texts promise anything about the punishment of hellfire being diminished.
This is completely subjective. There is no measurable scale. One could just as easily argue that Allah sparing no one from eternal hell is still an act of mercy relative to what sinners deserve.
You can see a distinction in the two hadith that are usually quoted.
تَغْلِبُ (taghlibu) = prevails over / overcomes
سَبَقَتْ (sabaqat) = preceded / has gone before
This is exactly why the lone narrator’s reports are not used to produce certainty in matters of creed. However, if we were to offer an interpretation and one interpretation is as good as any other, it would be this. That mercy preceded wrath in the form of sending prophets, scriptures, and warnings. Whoever rejects that mercy after it has come deserves the wrath.
Much of what is addressed here are old discussions that were discussed back and forth at a forum here:
“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.” (Qur’an 2:80-81)
And this alone should be sufficient.
Why would this be true only for Jews and not for every believer? On what consistent basis is this claim made?
“While the wicked will be in Hell. They will roast on the Day of Judgment. And they will never be absent from it.” (Qur’an 82: 14-16)
This verse above is also clear. It says that theywill never be absent from it. Not that they will be there forever and one day maybe not. Never. It is as clear as it may get.
“And when the appointed Day comes, no one shall even dare to speak except by the leave of Allah. Then some will be declared wretched, others blessed. As for the wretched, they shall be in the Fire, and in it they shall sigh and groan. They shall abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure, unless your Lord may will otherwise. Surely your Lord does whatsoever He wills. And as for those who are blessed, they shall abide in the Garden as long as the heavens and the earth endure, unless your Lord may will otherwise. They shall enjoy an unceasing gift.” (Qur’an 11:105-109)
So the main point of one of the commenters is as follows:
Notice God says “…your Lord carries out whatever He wills…” after the description of potential release from Hell, as if to support this possibility. Yet, after the same statement made in reference to Heaven, God says “…an unceasing gift”. He doesn’t say “…whatever He wills”, which would support the statement that Heaven will end, but rather “unceasing gift” supports the continuation of Heaven.
Point 1.
Nothing happens except by the will of Allah who has full and total control over all things.
“As for the Righteous, they will be in bliss; And the Wicked – they will be in the Fire, Which they will enter on the Day of Judgment, And they will not be able to keep away therefrom. And what will explain to you what the Day of Judgment is? Again, what will explain to you what the Day of Judgment is? (It will be) the Day when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another: For the command, that Day, will be (wholly) with Allah.” (Qur’an 82:13-19)
They shall abide in (hellfire) it as long as the heavens and the earth endure, unless your Lord may will otherwise.
they shall abide in the Garden as long as the heavens and the earth endure, unless your Lord may will otherwise.
These people are clearly overlooking the eternality of the garden and hell based upon the eternality of the new heaven and earth itself.
“On the day when the earth is changed into another earth, as well as the heavens, and they emerged before Allah, the One, the Subduer.” (Qur’an 14:48)
Now let us do a thought experiment. What would be the reason or purpose for someone to leave paradise? Is there any text suggesting that a person would be expelled from or leave paradise after entering it?
“Then We said, “O Adam, you and your wife, both dwell in the Garden and eat to your hearts’ content where from you will, but do not go near this tree otherwise you shall become transgressors” After a time Satan tempted them with that tree to disobey Our Command and brought them out of the state they were in, and We decreed, “Now, go down all of you from here; you are enemies of one another. Henceforth you shall dwell and provide for yourselves on the Earth for a specified period.” At that time Adam learnt appropriate words from his Lord and repented, and his Lord accepted his repentance, for He is very Relenting and very Merciful.” (Quran 2:35-37)
Point 3.
The proponents of the idea that people will leave hell seem fixated on the the following endings:
After mentioning hellfire : Surely your Lord does whatsoever He wills.
After mentioning paradise, they shall enjoy an unceasing gift.
Yet, they seem to forget that both statements are preceded by: unless your Lord May will otherwise.
They wish to only focus on ‘They shall enjoy an unceasing gift’ and ignore that the text is preceded by ‘unless your Lord May will otherwise’ as well as ‘as long as the heavens and earth pass’.
For example, in the English language one may say:
Except as I will, you children may have all the chocolates on the table.
Or
You children may have all the chocolates on the table, except as I will.
Both sentence structures indicate that the children may enjoy as long as I will.
Point 4.
Inconsistent methodology.
So, using their logic, and if one was to be consistent, we would need to understand under what circumstances would those believers who go to heaven not enjoy heaven any longer? In the same vein, those who are sent to hellfire under what circumstances would they leave?
Allah (swt) could have removed the “unless your Lord may will otherwise” statement. That would have given the proponents the same weight as that verse. Yet, they would still need to contend with the numerous verses in the Qur’an in which Allah (swt) clearly indicated his will regarding those in hellfire.
“While the wicked will be in Hell. They will roast on the Day of Judgment. And they will never be absent from it.” (Qur’an 82: 14-16)
Point 5.
Lastly, on that text above. It would not indicate who would leave the hell fire.
Remember, there is a belief among Sunni Muslims that believers can enter the hellfire and then be taken out.
They cannot bring a single verse of the Qur’an to substantiate this. So if we are to use the logic of those who believe that hellfire is not eternal for its inhabitants (contrary to what Allah clearly says), it would mean that the polytheist, mushrik, anyone will eventually leave hell.
For us the matter is clear, crystal clear.
The hellfire is eternal for who ever enters it.
Our creed is taken from clear verses and not verses subject to multiple interpretations.
Objections are based upon interpretations or emotive in nature.
There is not a single verse anywhere in the Qur’an that believers (mumin) enter the hellfire.
There is not a single verse anywhere in the Qur’an that the ungrateful (kafir) enter heaven.
The Qur’an has to be in harmony with all its verses.
The next text that was discussed in that forum actually works against them.
“To those who reject Our Signs and treat them with arrogance, no opening will there be of the gates of Heaven, nor will they enter the Garden, until the camel can pass through the eye of the needle: such is Our reward for those in sin.” (Qur’an 7:40)
In the Tafsir attributed to Ibn Abbas (ra) Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs it says:
(Lo! they who deny Our revelations) Muhammed (pbuh) and the Qur’an (and scorn them) scorn believing in them, (for them the gates of Heaven will not be opened) to receive their works or souls (nor will they enter the Garden until the camel goes through the needle’s eye) they will not enter Paradise just as a camel cannot pass through the eye of a needle; it is also said that this means: they will not enter Paradise until a rope goes through a needle’s eye. (Thus do We requite the guilty) the idolaters.”
Even our teacher, Shaykh Hilal Al Wardi (hafidulah), favours the understanding of rope instead of camel.
Even then, as the Shaykh says, it means a big rope and not the thin thread that easily passes through the eye of the needle. The big rope is impossible.
Let us follow through logically.
ALL SUNNI Muslims believe that, at the very least, the unbelievers will go to hellfire. So, if the above verse is to be understood as something possible, a rope that can go through the eye of a needle, then no one will go to hellfire at all!
Now we know that this verse is clear. Allah (swt) has made it clear when he states: “Surely your Lord does whatsoever He wills.” That Allah (swt) has not willed for these people anything other than for them to remain in hellfire.
We know that Allah’s (swt) promise and statements are true.
“But the ones who believe and do righteous deeds – We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. It is the promise of Allah , which is truth, and who is more truthful than Allah in statement.” (Qur’an 4:122)
The only other possible straw for these people to clutch is the evil and heinous position that Allah (swt) can lie. So then when Allah (swt) says:
“While the wicked will be in Hell. They will roast on the Day of Judgment. And they will never be absent from it.” (Qur’an 82: 14-16)
or
“To those who reject Our Signs and treat them with arrogance, no opening will there be of the gates of Heaven, nor will they enter the Garden, until the camel can pass through the eye of the needle: such is Our reward for those in sin.” (Qur’an 7:40)
We have refuted that vile and godless position here:
“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.” (Qur’an 2:80-81)
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Every now and again there is someone who stops by this blog/website and leaves an amazing comment. Something that is so eye-opening and poignant that it deserves not to be tucked away in the comment section but broadcast as far as Allah (swt) allows the knowledge to transmit.
“By the logic of those who argue that sinful believers who earned Jahannam will eventually go to paradise, Iblis himself would eventually enter Jannah because of his “righteous deeds” before he disobeyed Allah. We know, according to the Quran, he had the rank of the angels.”
“But the undeniable fact that Allah cursed Iblis to Jahannam over ONE sin, not prostrating to a creation. Allah commanded you to prostrate too. That is more than enough evidence that just because you believe doesn’t mean you will enter Jannah.”
“Iblis NEVER denied that Allah was his lord. Rather, he became arrogant and disobeyed the command of Allah. It seems this sin in and of itself is far more damning than a disbeliever not believing. It’s because Iblis KNEW about Allah’s power, yet he still disobeyed.”
“Even in Iblis’s khutbah to the companions of the fire, Iblis denies the association of him as a partner to Allah, and he affirms that Allah promised them the truth, and he promised them but betrayed them.”
“Anyone who accepts the notion that Jahannam is temporary for ANYONE without explicit proof is only responding to shaytan. Allah promises eternal bliss or eternal torment. Shaytan promises delusion.”
“I pray more Muslims see and understand the severity of this topic.”
What more can be said except Amin! Very well said, Zheyn!
Fore more on this topic you may wish to read the following:
“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.” (Qur’an 2:80-81)
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Beautiful Recitation and Powerful Reminder.
May Allah (swt) cause us to die as Muslims! May Allah (swt) cause us to die upon faith! This is a very powerful reminder!
All we need to do is make taubah (turn towards Allah, with our heart, our mind, and soul) and sincerely repent. Cut our connection to those things that lead us to haram. Find the company of righteous good companions. Bring all of our troubles and challenges to Allah (swt).
“Call upon Me; I will respond to you.” (Qur’an 40:6)
“O you who believe! save yourselves and your families from a fire whose fuel is men and stones; over it are angels stern and strong, they do not disobey Allah in what He commands them, and do as they are commanded.”(Qur’an 66:6)
Take heed believers. Do not be beguiled by this short and fleeting life. The hereafter is better than this life!
This is a welcome change from the perspective of the last time!
“And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: “Now I repent;” nor of those who die while they are ungrateful (kuffarun). For them, We have prepared a painful torment.” (Qur’an 4:18)
“IF (but) eschew the evilest of the things which you are forbidden to do, We shall expel out of (Saiyiatikum) YOU ALL THE EVIL IN YOU, and admit you to a gate of great honor.” –(Qur’an 4:31)
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We can establish two quick points from the very beginning.
1. There is not a verse in the entirety of the Qur’an that gives a single example of a believer (mumin) entering hellfire.
2. There is not a verse in the entirety of the Qur’an that gives a single example of a kafir (ingrate) entering paradise.
“O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah with the care which is due to Him, and do not die unless you are Muslims.” (Qur’an 3:102)
“And return in repentance to your Lord and submit to Him before the punishment comes upon you; then you will not be helped.” (Qur’an 39:54)
What should be important for us it is not important if our school is right or wrong on the matter.
What is important for us is that we are following the clear evidence as given by the Qur’an and the agreed-upon traditions of the Blessed Messenger (saw)- Al-Sunnah.
The only reason the title is put as such is to make a distinction between what we believe to be the truth of the matter. Other schools have their reasons and justifications.
It is important to understand how we understand the word ‘Muslim’ and the word ‘kufr’ and what they mean based on the agreed-upon sources.
There are states or conditions that we are born into that we can lose and those states or conditions that we cannot lose. For example, if you are born a man or a woman for the rest of your life you will be a man or a woman. (though in this day and age some may even scoff at this reasoning!)
There is one’s ethnic group to which you belong that you are born with. If one is born an Arab they will die as an Arab.
So your gender, your ethnicity you are born as such and die as such.
Now a status can change. You could go from being single to married. You could go from being married to single. You could begin a career as a lawyer and die as a farmer.
So this is why it is important to understand the word ‘Muslim’ as-a state of being.
You can be Muslim and you can lose your faith in Islam. One of the most obvious examples of this without resorting to proof text is that if a Muslim chooses to leave Islam for another religion or no religion at all. This person has gone out of the Milla of Islam.
“Say, My Lord has guided me to a straight path, and to an upright religion, the religion (millata) of Abraham the upright, who was not of those who associate partners with Allah. Say. Surely my prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death are (all) for Allah, the Lord of the worlds; No associate has He, and this am I commanded, and I am the first of those who submit (l-muslimina)” (Qur’an 6:161-163)
“And those who disbelieved said to their messengers: We will most certainly drive you forth from our land, or else you shall come back into our religion (millatina). So their Lord revealed to them: Most certainly We will destroy the unjust.” (Qur’an 14:13)
“Lo! those who believe, then disbelieve and then (again) believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them, nor will He guide them on the way. Give tidings to the hypocrites that for them there is a painful punishment.” (Qur’an 4:137-138)
These verses are very clear that one can leave the Milla of Islam and that one can be upon faith and than kufr and than return to faith and then return back to kufr and than continue on in their kufr.
You want to make sure that when you die you die upon the cycle of iman (belief). Allah (swt) has mentioned several times that we are not to die except in a state of Islam. We should die while upon belief and in a state of surrender, submission, to die as Muslims. Amin for all of us!
“And you do not take revenge on us except because we have believed in the communications of our Lord when they came to us! Our Lord: Pour out upon us patience and cause us to die insubmission (muslimina) ” (Qur’an 7:126)
“And the same did Ibrahim enjoin on his sons and (so did) Yaqoub. O, my sons! surely Allah has chosen for you (this) faith, therefore die not unless you are Muslims (muslimuna). (Qur’an 2:132)
“O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah with the care which is due to Him, and do not die unless you are Muslims.” (Qur’an 3:102)
So there are two points to be taken from the above text
We want to die in a state of surrender in a state of submission. For these commands to be there means it is possible for one not to die in a state of surrender and submission. We seek protection with Allah (swt) from that-for all of us!
We want to die while having belief/ faith in our hearts. We make supplication that this happens for all of us!
Notice that one of the three verses quoted above admonishes the following:
“Pour out upon us patience.” – In other words, grant us patience in doing what we need to do. & “be careful of (your duty to) Allah with the care which is due to Him.”
So please understand that the word Muslim means action. It is more an adjective that describes a state of being rather than a noun -regardless of anything one says or does.
Muslims are not like our gender or ethnicity. Being in a state of Islam is not something that stays with us no matter what we do. So it is something we must be careful to guard.
Based upon the Qur’an and Sunnah have two types of kafir.
All mushriks (those who associate partners with Allah) are kafir.
However, not all kafir are mushriks.
An example of the first point. Mushrik are kafirs.
“Certainly they are ungrateful (KAFARA)who say: Surely, Allah– He is the Messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then could control anything as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah son of Mary and his mother and all those on the earth? And Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them; He creates what He pleases; and Allah has power over all things,” (Qur’an 5:17)
An example of the second point. Not all kafirs are Mushriks.
” And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the disbelievers (l-kāfirūna).” (Qur’an 5:44)
While the immediate context is a reference to the Jews, it would be a strange thing to say that Jews who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are kafir while Muslims get a free pass.
“Now, surely, sincere obedience is due to Allah (alone) and as for those who take awliyaa besides Him, saying, We do not serve them save that they may make us nearer to Allah, surely Allah will judge between them in that in which they differ; surely Allah does not guide him aright who is a liar, ungrateful(kaffarun) (Qur’an 39:3)
So what or how do we understand the word kufr?
Some want to make the word kufr as that which brings one out of Islam. Often you may see in their books and translations of the Qur’an that the various iterations of the word kufr or kafir will be translated into English as: ‘infidel’ or ‘disbeliever’ or ‘nonbeliever’ or ‘unbeliever’.
However, we want to look at how Allah (swt) the lord of all the worlds uses the word and its different forms throughout the revelation that He (swt) has given to us.
“Know that this world’s life is a sport and play and gaiety and boasting among yourselves, and a vying in the multiplication of wealth and children, like the rain, whose causing the vegetation to grow, pleases the tillers (al-kuffara), then it withers away so that you will see it become yellow, then it becomes dried up and broken down, and in the hereafter is a severe chastisement and (also) forgiveness from Allah and (His) pleasure, and this world’s life is naught but means of deception.” (Qur’an 57:20)
Maa sha Allah! This verse is very powerful. It also has a double meaning on the word kuffar. You can see that people in this life are all about hedonism and narcissism, boasting, and competition. Yet these people are ungrateful. They are compared to tillers who cover the earth. They are happy with their efforts.
Yet, as Allah (swt) mentions that the produce itself becomes nothing. That the life of this world is but means of deception. The produce becomes nothing, we see our youth give way to the challenges of old age. Even the wealth and children disperse. How many families fight over wealth and inheritance? How many children, in turn, are ungrateful to their parents for the sacrifices they made to give them a better lifestyle?
So much can be said about this amazing verse! Subhan’Allah.
“And when your Lord made it known: If you are grateful (shakartum), I would certainly give to you more, and if you are ungrateful (kafartum) , then My torment will be severe.“ (Qur’an 14:7)
So here Allah (swt) contrasted gratefulness with kafar (ungrateful). He also again warned us that His ‘torment will be severe‘ for those who are ungrateful. Note in the above verse one is either grateful or ungrateful. There is no in between. It is akin to a light switch what is the position between on/off?
“How is it you are ungrateful (takfurūna) to Allah? You had been lifeless, then, He gave you life. again, He will cause you to die. Again, He will give you life. And, again, you are returned to Him.” (Qur’an 2:28)
“So when they ride in the ships they call upon Allah, being sincerely obedient to Him, but when He brings them safely to the land, lo! they associate others (yush’rikūna) with Him; being ungrateful (liyakfuru) for what We gave them. So let them take joy for soon they will know!” (Qur’an 29:65-66)
So with all these verses in mind, it should be known that in the Ibadi school we understand Kufr as a denial of truth and ingratitude-either by one’s actions or inaction.
So the second type as mentioned above is kufr ni’mah. So this kufr-ni’mah is when any of us as Muslims commit major sins -persist in those sins and do not repent.
So those Muslims are kafir ni’mah. Ungrateful to Allah (swt) for the overwhelming and manifest blessings that He (swt) has given to them. They show this by their actions or inaction.
Our view is that any Muslim who does this and does not repent before death reaches/him or her will be in eternal hellfire.
So to be clear this is our position. In this life, there are three groups.
There are the Mushrik -those who are outside of Islam. Kufr Ash-Shirk
There are the Mumin (those are the believers) -They are part of the millat of Islam.
There are those who are kafir ni’mah (nifaq).- They are part of the millat of Islam. They share the beliefs of the Muslims. The share with those outside of Islam in kufr.
The one in kafir ni’mah he/she shares with the Mushrik in kufr -not of associating partners with Allah(swt) but in covering up the truth and/or being ungrateful to Allah(swt).
The one in kafir ni’mah he/she shares with the Muslims, thee beliefs of Islam. They are part of the Millat of Islam. Yet, they are Muslim by their tongues and the affirmation of the people. But if they are truly people of wara, and taqwa and emaan they will rush to ask forgiveness from their Lord.
Some people may be familiar with the term:
“The difference between us and the Kharijis is that they oppose us only in that they judge of every punishable act of kufr entailing expulsion from the millah.”-Shaykh Ahmed b. Hamad al-Khalili
As regards the afterlife we believe there are two types of categories and two abodes and the inhabitants of one do not enter the abode of the other.
The two categories are:
One is a destination for the kufar
One is a destination for the mumin.
The two destinations are:
The paradise and the believers do not come out from it. There is no verse in the Qur’an that paradise is for the kafir.
The hellfire and no one comes out from it. There is no verse in the Qur’an that hellfire is for the mumin.
The following three ahadith are something to ponder.
Jabir ibn ‘Abd-Allah reported: The Prophet, (saw) said, “Verily between a man and shirk and kufr there stands his neglect of the prayer.”
“I heard the Messenger of Allah ( saw) ‘The covenant that distinguishes between us and them is the prayer, and whoever neglects it has disbelieved (become a kafir).’”
Abdullah bin Buraidah narrated that his father said: “The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: The covenant that distinguishes between us and them is the prayer; so whoever neglects it, has become a kafir (committed kufr).”
When a person willfully, abandons the prayer he/she/ become a kafir.
They are in a state of Kufr.
The type of kufr is called: “kufr ni’mah” ungratefulness to Allah (swt), for his many blessings by covering or hiding the reality of what Allah (swt) has commanded and prohibited and enjoined upon us.
Muslims who do major sins and persist in this without tauba are in a state of “kufr ni’mah” -they are still part of the Milla of Islam, their children inherit from them. However, if these people die in such a state, without making repentance the position of the Qur’an is clear. That person will go to hell fire-where they will neither reprieve nor escape.
“And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: “Now I repent;” nor of those who die while they are ungrateful (kuffarun). For them, We have prepared a painful torment.” (Qur’an 4:18)
This verse is very clear.
Repentance is no use who continue to do evil deeds upon until death faces them (which could be at any moment) mind you. So it is risky to delay repentance and also shows a type of satisfaction with the sin.
Those who die while they are in a state of ungratefulness (kuffarun).
A painful punishment is prepared for such.
May Allah (swt) protect you and me and all of us!
“Surely as for those whom the angels cause to die while they are unjust to their souls, they shall say: In what state were you? They shall say: We were weak in the earth. They shall say: Was not Allah’s earth spacious so that you should have migrated therein? So those it is whose abode is hell, and it is an evil destination.” (Qur’an 4:99)
“The repentance accepted by Allah is only for those who do wrong in ignorance or carelessness and then repent soon after. It is those to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness, and Allah is ever Knowing and Wise..” (Qur’an 4:17)
So notice that it says even for people who do sins out of ignorance or carelessness that they should repent “soon after” How much more for those who do the major evil sins?
Now, this doesn’t mean if you did something out of ignorance or carelessness that you will be punished. Allah (swt) is merciful and does not want to punish someone for carelessness or slight acts of negligence.
What this verse is stating is that when it now becomes clear to you that what you were doing out of ignorance or carelessness is now made clear that you should repent from it immediately.
“IF (but) eschew the evilest of the things which you are forbidden to do, We shall expel out of (Saiyiatikum) YOU ALL THE EVIL IN YOU, and admit you to a gate of great honor.” -(Qur’an 4:31)
This verse is conditional. If we do our level best to avoid the major sins than Allah (swt) will remove from us the lesser sins. Allah (swt) forgives sins because He is al-ʿAfūw & al-Ghafūr
For more on the above verse please read our article here:
“It is right to hope that Allah will pardon them. For Allah is The one who Effaces, The Ever Forgiving..” (Qur’an 4:99)
Even with this in mind, we should do our level best to avoid small sins. We should never despair of the Mercy of Allah (swt) nor should we take for granted the Mercy of Allah (swt). That is the point is that by taking for granted the Mercy of Allah (swt) is in and of itself ingratitude.
As regards the majority of Muslims supposedly not praying or keeping their duty to Allah (swt) that is not your problem nor mine. We love them and hope they quickly amend their ways. Our duty is to save ourselves and our family from the fire whose fuel is men and jinn, whose fuel is men and stones.
So what does taubah mean?
It means to return or to turn.
Return or turn to whom?
Why would you need to return or turn if you are already in a state of surrender?
The matter of whether or not hell is eternal.
This is another reason why I feel the Muslim community is in the state that it is in. Think about it. The majority Muslim position is telling everyone that:
“Don’t worry Allah will put you in hell for a while, and then you will come out of it.” “Don’t worry you will only be in hell for 257 million years and then you can come out of it!“
May Allah (swt) protect us from perverse doctrines!
As if hell were a light matter! Not only that but they teach that hellfire is not eternal for the Muslim who commits major sins and does not repent!
Now let me ask you, dear readers. What actually is a Muslim?
What do you think should be the case for the Muslim who says:
“I know killing people is wrong but I’ll do it anyway.” “I know drinking alcohol is forbidden, and extramarital affairs are wrong but I’ll do them anyway”
“O you who have believed, fear Allah and give up what remains of interest if you should be believers. And if you do not, then be informed of war against you from Allah and His Messenger. But if you repent, you may have your principal – thus you do no wrong, nor are you wronged.” (Qur’an 2:278-279)
Can you imagine the condition of such a person? A person who says:
“I know that usury is forbidden, and I am in a state of war with Allah and His Messenger and I know that it is wrong, but I will do it anyway.” ?!?
So is simple lip service and acknowledging that it’s a sin and yet continuing to revel in it the hallmark of a Muslim? What is this based on?
Then you have to wonder about the moral decay in the Muslim community. Even though we could die at any moment, the personal reasons, “I can do this and Allah (swt) will just forgive me. Worst-case scenario I’ll go to hell for a while be purified and then released into heaven.” Authubillah min dhalik!
But a Muslim who neglect the prayers from simple laziness or no desire, you have to ask yourself what actually is a Muslim?
What is so hard about doing taubah?
Look at all the places it is mentioned in the Qur’an.
If you think about the major sins they are not things that are altogether to difficult to avoid.
Like do you personally find it difficult not to kill people?
Do you have some overwhelming desire to worship idols and associate partners with Allah (swt)?
Do you feel it’s absolutely necessary to cheat on your husband/wife when divorce is open to you?
The prayer takes discipline, but at the end of the day, it’s roughly 5 minutes (25 minutes) out of a 24 hour period.
You can perform it sitting down, lying on your side, you can combine prayers when traveling, shorten it during the conflict, and so forth.
Look at this hadith.
On the authority of Anas (ra), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) say: Allah the Almighty said: O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you, O Son of Adam were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the Earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great as it.”
“He said: “O my people! why do you seek to hasten on the evil before the good? Why do you not ask forgiveness of Allah so that you may be dealt with mercifully? (Qur’an 27:46)
You really have to be a person actively fleeing from the mercy of Allah, an individual actively fleeing from Allah’s forgiveness and mercy to end up in hell. You actively have to want to participate in that end. You do so by continuing to disobey Allah (swt) and not seeking forgiveness, and not wanting transformation in your life. May Allah suffice us!
“The day when neither wealth nor sons shall profit except for him who comes to Allah with a pure heart.” (Qur’an 26:88-89)
“Nay! But on their hearts is the Ran (covering of sins and evil deeds) which they used to earn.’” (Qur’an 83:14)
Can a heart that is filled with ingratitude and hypocrisy be said to be a pure heart?
Look at what the great Shaykh and teacher of spirituality, Imam Al Ghazali has quoted:
“The Messenger of Allah “Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him,” said: “There are four kinds of hearts: a heart which is stripped clean in which a lamp shines and this is the believer’s heart; a heart which is black and upside down, and it is the unbeliever’s heart; a hardened heart bound n its sheath of evil, and it is the heart of the hypocrite; and a broad heart in which there is both belief and hypocrisy. Its belief is like green herbage which pure water causes to abound, and its hypocrisy is like an ulcer which purulent matter and pus cause to spread. This heart is judged to belong to whichever of the two prevails over the other.” This heart is judged to belong to whichever of the two prevails over the other.”
Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire – and never will you find for them a helper – Except for those who repent, correct themselves, hold fast to Allah, and are sincere in their religion for Allah, for those will be with the believers. And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward. Why should Allah punish you if you are grateful and believe? And ever is Allah Appreciative and Knowing.” (Qur’an 4:145-147)
“Allah does not charge a soul except with that within its capacity. It will have the consequence of what good it has gained, and it will bear the consequence of what evil it has earned. “Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us, and forgive us, and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the ungrateful (l-kafirina) people.” (Qur’an 2:286)
“O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah with the care which is due to Him, and do not die unless you are Muslims.” (Qur’an 3:102)
“And return [in repentance] to your Lord and submit to Him before the punishment comes upon you; then you will not be helped.” (Qur’an 39:54)
Oh Muslims die in a state of surrender to Allah (swt) and not in a state of rebellion to Allah (swt)
There is not a verse in the entirety of the Qur’an that gives a single example of a kafir (ingrate) entering paradise.
One final note. Anyone who in a state of kufr will go to hell. Hell is not for the mumin.
So how to avoid this fate?
Avoid major sins. If you find that you fall short, repent immediately! Return to Allah (swt).
Allah is our success!
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“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell—where they will stay indefinitely.Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)
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The following article is a translation of the wonderful presentation by the respected Shaykh
In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, and prayers and peace be upon the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers, our master Muhammed, and upon his family and his righteous, guided companions. To proceed:
Peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you.
Introduction: The Allegations Answered Once and For All.
My brothers, in this article we continue responding to a persistent allegation—that the Ibadis declare the Companions to be disbelievers, that we excommunicate them from Islam. This accusation is repeated endlessly by those who either misunderstand our creed or deliberately misrepresent it.
As we have said before, this attack against the Ibadis is the result of these people’s ignorance regarding the principle of loyalty and disavowal (al-walāyah wa’l-barā’ah) among the Ibadis. Likewise, these people are trying to conceal what they themselves call the faults of some of the Companions—namely, the events that occurred during the civil strife (fitnah). These events are what led those scholars to declare disavowal from some of the Companions.
These people are not only ignorant of the principle of loyalty and disavowal, but they are also trying to conceal and avoid discussing these events.
When these people throw this accusation at the Ibadis, they simply say directly: “The Ibadis declare the Companions disbelievers,” without discussing the reasons. There are reasons that led those scholars to declare disavowal regarding those Companions.
What Our Opponents Say: Documenting the Accusation
Let us document exactly what our opponents claim. Listen carefully to their own words:
“Look, regardless of my disagreement with them, they declare ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān to be a disbeliever, and they declare ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, and Ḥasan ibn ʿAlī, and Ḥusayn ibn ʿAlī, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Yet despite that, they do not openly state it. Rather, you find this in their major books. You find it in their books. They also have an element of taqiyyah (dissimulation). Even so, I do not know whether this expression will be understood properly or not, but I respect in them the absence of sectarianism. This is their creed: they declare the Prophet’s Companions disbelievers. This is their creed: they declare the Prophet’s Companions disbelievers. Yes, we declare Muʿāwiyah a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare Marwān a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare ʿUthmān a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare ʿAlī and al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn disbelievers, but we still narrate from al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn. This is the Ibadi belief.”
Another says:
“Therefore we are not surprised by this stance, for the position of the early Ibadis regarding the Companions—especially the two caliphs—is contrary to the methodology of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamāʿah. It included criticism, takfīr, and false disavowal from the best of this nation. As for the other two Rightly Guided Caliphs, ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān and ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, may Allah be pleased with them, the Khawārij, including the Ibadis, remained deeply astray concerning them, attributing to them things from which Allah declared them innocent, and speaking grievously against them.”
And another:
“They called themselves the people of truth and uprightness, but they are the people of falsehood and misguidance. Hatred toward Ahl al-Sunnah. Let me add even more: they declare ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib and ʿUthmān disbelievers—and also al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn, of course. As for Muʿāwiyah ibn Abī Sufyān, he exited Islam through its widest gates.”
As you have heard, these people claim that the Ibadis declare ʿUthmān, ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, al-Ḥasan, al-Ḥusayn, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Then they say that the Ibadis do not openly state this and that they practice a kind of taqiyyah. They say this is our creed.
The Reality: No Taqiyyah, No Doctrine of Takfīr
The reality is that this is not our creed, nor is there any taqiyyah. Rather, it is their ignorance. They are ignorant of the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension (wuqūf) among the Ibadis.
One of these opponents commented on an interview with one of our shaykhs. The interviewer asked the shaykh about Sayyidunā Abū Bakr and Sayyidunā ʿUmar, then afterwards about Sayyidunā ʿUthmān. They claim that he stuttered. The reality is that the shaykh did not stutter. Rather, he was avoiding reopening the fitnah and the events that occurred among the Companions. He did not want to stir up these matters, so he avoided them. Yet they claim he hesitated and faltered.
The shaykh did not hesitate or stutter. He answered. The problem is not with the shaykh—the problem is with them. They are ignorant of the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension. Anyone who understands this doctrine would know that the shaykh did answer the question.
The shaykh did not want to bring out what is found in their own books regarding the events that occurred among the Companions. He was avoiding this issue.
The shaykh said—according to the meaning of his words—that there were those who had one opinion and others who had another opinion. This is the reality. The issue returns to the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension. There are people with one opinion and others with another. That is the answer. The shaykh cannot specify which of those opinions is correct because the matter returns to our doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension.
They want the shaykh simply to say: “Disbeliever” or “not a disbeliever.” But the matter is not that simple. This black-and-white approach belongs to them. The shaykh is not obligated to adopt their methodology, nor are the Ibadis obligated to adopt their methodology in these issues. We Ibadis have our own methodology and doctrine: the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension.
Now, these people claim that we declare ʿUthmān, ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, al-Ḥasan, al-Ḥusayn, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Then they say we do not openly state it and that we practice taqiyyah. Then they say this is the creed of the Ibadis.
The reality is that there is neither taqiyyah nor a doctrine of declaring the Companions disbelievers. Declaring the Companions disbelievers is not a doctrine among the Ibadis. We do not have a chapter in our creed titled: “The Ibadi doctrine of declaring the Companions disbelievers.” This is their ignorance.
If we focus on their words and these responses and clips they produced, we find them constantly repeating the term takfīr, the term kufr. They say: “They declared disbelief,”“acts of disbelief,”“so-and-so is a disbeliever.”
One of them even distorted the shaykh’s words in that interview, lied, and played with expressions. Anyone who watches the interview and his commentary will find that he distorted the shaykh’s words and attributed to him statements he never made. The shaykh never uttered the term takfīr. Yet this man attributes to the Ibadis things they never said.
Did the Ibadis Invent the Term Kufr?
Now, does this term—takfīr—have any basis? Did the Ibadis invent it out of thin air, as they claim, or does it have a basis in religion?
Let us establish this. Let us speak and cite from the books of these people themselves. We will not use Ibadi sources. Rather, we will prove everything we say from the sources of these people.
The Prophetic Evidence
In Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, the most authentic book after the Qur’an according to Ahl al-Sunnah, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:
“Do not revert after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.”
This is another ḥadīth proving the usage of the term kufr for actions committed by Muslims against other Muslims.
What Sunni Scholars Say About this Kufr
Now let us see what these people’s own scholars say regarding these ḥadīths and the term kufr.
Muhammed ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn
Muhammed ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn, one of the most revered contemporary Sunni scholars, says in his commentary on Riyāḍ al-Ṣāliḥīn, volume 4, page 70:
“Then the Prophet ﷺ said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ … This indicates that believers fighting one another is kufr.”
Notice: He says “believers fighting one another is kufr.” He does not say the fighters have left Islam. He affirms they are believers, yet their fighting is kufr.
However, you know what has happened to soften this in some English translations? They translate it as: “This indicates that believers fighting one constitutes some disbelief.”
In Al-Thamar al-Mustatāb fī Fiqh al-Sunnah wa al-Kitāb, page 53, al-Albānī says:
“Know that many ḥadīths have come attributing kufr to those who commit major sins … among them: ‘Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr’… and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ All these ḥadīths are authentic. So if we know that kufr has levels (darajāt), and that some forms do not eternally condemn a person to Hell, then there is no need for reinterpretation.”
Al-Albānī explicitly affirms three critical points:
Kufr has levels (darajāt).
Some forms of kufr do not eternally condemn a person to Hell.
Therefore, there is no need to reinterpret these ḥadīths away—they mean what they say, but kufr does not always mean apostasy.
“Based on this principle, a person may possess a branch of disbelief while also possessing faith. Thus the Prophet ﷺ named many sins as kufr, though the person committing them may still have more than an atom’s weight of faith and therefore not remain eternally in Hell. Such as his statement: ‘Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr,’ and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ This is widespread from the Prophet ﷺ in authentic narrations.”
Then he says:
“He called those who strike one another’s necks unjustly ‘disbelievers.’”
And he says this is “kufr less than kufr,” as some Companions said.
This is extraordinary. Ibn Taymiyyah—the scholar revered by many of our opponents—explicitly affirms:
A person can have “a branch of disbelief” while still possessing faith.
The Prophet called certain sins kufr.
This kufr does not necessarily mean eternal damnation.
Some Companions themselves called this “kufr less than kufr.”
“If hatred is for worldly reasons only, then this is lesser disbelief and does not reach major disbelief. Hence the Prophet ﷺ said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’”
Then on page 852 he says:
“The fact that some Companions fought others involves entering into traits of disbelief … therefore he said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers.’”
He then says this disbelief may be lesser or greater depending on the nature of the hatred.
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Ibn Taymiyyah on the Authenticity of These Ḥadīths
In Minhāj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah, volume 4, pages 499–500, Ibn Taymiyyah is responding to the Rāfiḍah (Shīʿa). In this section he imagines an argument from the Nawāṣib against the Rāfiḍah. He says:
“If the Nawāṣib said to you Rāfiḍah: ‘ʿAlī permitted the blood of Muslims and fought them without the command of Allah and His Messenger, merely for leadership,’ and then cited the Prophet’s words ‘Fighting him is kufr’ and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another,’ then ʿAlī would thereby be a disbeliever…”
Then Ibn Taymiyyah says:
“Your argument, O Rāfiḍah, would not be stronger than theirs, because the ḥadīths they used are authentic.”
Ibn Taymiyyah affirms that these ḥadīths containing the term kufr are authentic. He does not deny their application to Muslims who fight Muslims.
In his book on trustworthy narrators, al-Dhahabī says on page 23:
“If we opened this door for ourselves, many Companions, Followers, and imams would enter into it. Some Companions declared others disbelievers based on interpretation.”
Al-Dhahabī affirms takfīr occurring among the Companions themselves—based on interpretive ijtihād, not because the target of takfīr had actually left Islam.
Imam al-Nawawī said in his commentary on Sahih Muslim: “To insult a Muslim without right is forbidden by the consensus of the Ummah, and the one who does it is a fāsiq (morally corrupt), as the Prophet (peace be upon him) informed. As for fighting him without right, it does not constitute kufr that expels one from the religion according to Ahl al-Haqq, unless one deems it lawful. Now that this is established, there are several interpretations of the hadith: First — it applies to the one who deems such acts lawful. Second — it is meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah. Third — it leads to disbelief due to its evil consequences. Fourth — it resembles the actions of disbelievers.”
First — it applies to the one who deems such acts lawful.
Their interpretation is if you kill a fellow a Muslim but you don’t believe that it is lawful to do so then it is not kufr.
We wonder if the companions who killed each other thought that what they were doing was lawful or unlawful?
If it was unlawful then they participated in the unlawful in masse.
Second — it is meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah. Hence, kufr ni’ama. Welcome to the Ibadi view.
Third — it leads to disbelief due to its evil consequences. Fourth — it resembles the actions of disbelievers.
Summary of Sunni Scholarly Consensus on the above matter.
Scholar
Affirmation
Ibn Taymiyyah
Kufr has levels; “kufr less than kufr” exists; a person can have a branch of kufr while still having faith.
Al-Dhahabī
Some Companions declared other Companions disbelievers based on interpretation (ta’wīl).
Al-ʿUthaymīn
Believers fighting one another is kufr—but they remain believers.
Al-Albānī
Kufr has levels (darajāt); some forms do not eternally condemn to Hell.
Ṣāliḥ Āl al-Shaykh
Lesser disbelief exists and does not reach major disbelief.
al-Nawawī
Meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah
The Sunni Understanding of Qur’anic Reconciliation vindicates the Ibadis
Now we return to the Qur’anic verse that seals this matter.
The Sunnis translate the verse as:
“And if two groups of the believers fight each other…” (Qur’an 49:9)
Allah did not say: “If two groups, one of which has left Islam…” He said: “of the believers.”
Therefore:
Statement
Implication
Allah calls fighting groups believers
They have not left the millah of Islam.
The Prophet calls fighting a Muslim kufr
The act is kufr in the lesser sense.
Conclusion
Kufr in the ḥadīth and in Ibadi usage does not mean expulsion from Islam.
This term—kufr—was not invented by the Ibadis out of thin air or from their own pockets. These scholars did not invent it. Rather, this term is established and has a basis in the explicit words of the Prophet ﷺ and the explicit text of the Qur’an.
The Prophet said: “Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr.” And he also said: “Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.”
The question is: did the Companions strike one another’s necks? No rational person can deny that this happened during the fitnah.
The Ibadi Doctrinal Framework: Walāyah, Barā’ah, and Wuqūf
Now that we have established the legitimacy of the term kufr in its lesser sense, let us explain the actual Ibadi doctrine—the framework our opponents either do not understand or deliberately misrepresent.
The issues related to the stance on historical events (the Great Fitnah) are among the most intricate topics in Ibadi theology, and they have witnessed significant methodological development while preserving their theoretical foundations.
First: The Three Doctrinal Concepts
These concepts represent a “system of analogy” that defines a Muslim’s relationship with others based on behavior and actions:
Walāyah (Loyalty): This is love for the sake of Allah, and it is obligatory for every Muslim whose outward conduct is in accordance with Allah’s commands. It is of two types: general walāyah (for all believers) and specific walāyah (for those known for their righteousness).
Barā’ah (Disavowal): This is hatred for the sake of Allah, and it is obligatory for anyone who openly commits a major sin, persists in a wrong, or introduces something into the religion that contradicts its fundamental principles (from the perspective of the school of thought). It is not a “curse” or “insult,” but rather a severing of religious allegiance from the action or innovation.
Wuqūf (Suspension): This refers to refraining from judging someone’s loyalty or innocence due to unclear evidence, conflicting reports, or because the person was unaware of the events and not legally obligated to pass judgment on them.
A Detailed Overview of Positions Throughout the Ages
Prevailing Position: Innocence of the events and those responsible for them. Early Ibadis did not hold the Companions (as a whole) responsible for the fitnah in a way that condemned them.
Estimated Percentage: 95% innocence. The overwhelming majority of early Ibadi scholars maintained that the Companions (as a whole) were not to be held blameworthy for the civil strife.
Even if we granted a theoretical 5% Allowance for disavowal.The remaining 5% allows for the possibility that some Companions, as human beings, may have committed acts prior to the fitnah that deserved punishment under the Qur’an and Sunnah. This is not a blanket condemnation of any Companion, nor is it specific to the events of the fitnah. Rather, it is an acknowledgment that Companions—like all humans—were not infallible (ma’sūm) and could commit individual sins for which the Qur’an and Sunnah prescribe accountability. This is not unique to Ibadis; Sunni scholars also acknowledge that Companions were not infallible and could commit sins, though they are generally considered righteous overall.
Examples: What is mentioned in the letters of Imam Jābir ibn Zayd (although his letters are characterized by piety) and what biographers have reported about the position of the people of Nahrawān towards ʿUthmān (due to the issue of protected areas and positions) and towards ʿAlī (due to the arbitration).
Logic: The position was directly political and doctrinal. Early Ibadis considered certain actions during the fitnah to be innovations, but they did not translate that into condemning the Companions as individuals. Rather, their barā’ah (disavowal) was directed at the actions and innovations, not at the persons as disbelievers or as having left the millah of Islam.
Stage 2: Establishing and Remaining Silent (5th–13th centuries AH)
Prevailing Stance: Expressions of “remaining silent” began to appear explicitly.
Estimated Ratio: 50% disavowal (in educational texts) and 50% wuqūf (in practical application).
A well-known saying: Imam Abū Saʿīd al-Kadāmī (one of the leading scholars of the 4th century AH) said: “We do not disavow ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib or ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān unless we have definitive proof that necessitates it, and silence is safer.”
Logic: The principle of “scholarly integrity” began to emerge, whereby statements of disavowal were transmitted as part of the heritage, but remaining silent was practiced out of respect for the status of these Companions.
Contemporary Phase (14th century AH – Present Day)
Prevailing Stance: Remaining silent and accepting (the principle of good faith).
Shaykh Nūr al-Dīn al-Sālimī: Despite his adherence to the fundamentals, he opened the door to wuqūf for those who were unaware of the fitnah, saying: “You may abstain from judgment regarding the people of the qiblah, for Allah will not question you about what they did.”
His Eminence Shaykh Aḥmad bin Ḥamad al-Khalīlī (Grand Mufti of Oman): He always emphasizes the unity of the Ummah and purity of heart. In his lessons and writings, he prays for mercy upon all the Companions and affirms that historical differences should not divide Muslims today.
The Principle of Purity of Heart: This is the principle adopted by the Ibadi school today, meaning that the contemporary Muslim is not obligated to investigate the bloodshed of the Companions, and it is safer for him to meet Allah with a pure heart towards everyone.
Why Do Classical Texts Continue to Contain Statements of Disavowal?
The continued presence of these statements in books does not necessarily mean they are being implemented today. Rather, it stems from methodological reasons:
Scholarly Integrity: Ibadi scholars consider the books of the early scholars an inheritance that should not be censored or deleted. Instead, it should be transmitted as is, with explanations within its historical context.
Preserving Historical Memory: Transmitting these statements aims to explain why the Ibadis differed from others initially (the political and legal reasons for the revival), not to incite hatred.
Distinguishing Between “Statement” and “Religious Practice”: The statement of disavowal exists “intellectually” in the books as an interpretation by earlier scholars, but wuqūf and acceptance are what are practiced “religiously” and as acts of worship today.
Should One Take a Doctrinal Stance Regarding the People of Nahrawān?
This is a fundamental question within the school of thought, and the answer can be summarized as follows:
The Ibadi position on their predecessors: The Ibadis believe that the people of Nahrawān were “people of righteousness” and that their disavowal of ʿUthmān and ʿAlī was based on a legitimate interpretation of Islamic law, which they considered justified in their time, to protect the core of the faith (as they perceived it).
Are you obligated to disavow them as they did? No. The principle among the Ibadis is: “There is no blame on one who remains neutral.” A contemporary Muslim who refrains from judging ʿUthmān and ʿAlī, while simultaneously respecting the people of Nahrawān as scholars and predecessors, is not considered an “innovator” or “outside the school.”
Conclusion of the Doctrinal Section
There is no religious obligation within the Ibadi school that compels you to disavow any of the Companions today. The required doctrinal stance is loyalty to the believers and hatred of oppressors in general. However, regarding specific historical events, the best and safest course is to remain neutral. (Wuqūf)
Accordingly, the Ibadi approach today is one of unity, not division, whereby the Companions (including ʿUthmān and ʿAlī) are treated with respect as a general virtue, while the interpretations of the early scholars who took strong stances are also respected, and this is considered part of the history of scholarly interpretation that does not preclude present-day harmony.
Kufr in the Ibadi School Does Not Expel from the Millah
Let us state this as clearly as possible:
Kufr in the Ibadi school is not something that takes one out of the millah of Islam.
This is the fundamental distinction that our opponents either cannot grasp or deliberately conceal.
When early Ibadi scholars used the term kufr regarding certain actions during the fitnah, they did not mean:
That the person had left the millah of Islam.
That their shahādah was invalidated.
That they were forever condemned to Hell.
Rather, they meant precisely what Ibn Taymiyyah meant when he wrote “a person may possess a branch of disbelief while also possessing faith” and “kufr less than kufr.” They meant what al-Albānī meant when he wrote “kufr has levels, and some forms do not eternally condemn a person to Hell.”
They meant that the action—fighting a fellow Muslim unjustly, or introducing innovation into the religion—is an act of kufr in the lesser sense: a grave violation that necessitates barā’ah (disavowal) but not the complete negation of faith.
Even in how we understand the word كفر or kufr in Arabic. This ensures us that we have a creed that is based upon the Qur’an, the primary source of Islam, the revelation Allah sent to his Blessed Prophet (saw). Allah (swt) never defined كفر as exit from the religion of Islam. This is concept is theologically superimposed upon the word. The proof of this is evident. In light of the clear text from the Prophetic Sunnah, Sunni scholars have provided an array of understandings and levels concering the word.
Why the Accusation of Taqiyyah for the Ibadi Is False
Our opponents also claim that we, the Ibadis practice taqiyyah—that we conceal our “true” belief that the Companions are disbelievers.
This is false for several reasons:
There is no concealment. We are explaining our doctrine openly in this very article, citing our sources and demonstrating our distinctions.
Wuqūf is not taqiyyah.Taqiyyah is concealing one’s true belief out of fear of harm. Wuqūf is a principled theological position: suspending judgment when evidence is unclear or when the matter does not affect one’s own religious obligation.
The accusation is ironic. Our opponents accuse us of taqiyyah while ignoring that we openly state: “We do not declare the Companions disbelievers in the sense of expulsion from Islam.” What are we supposedly concealing?
The burden of proof is on them. They claim we secretly believe something. But they provide no evidence—only misinterpretation of early texts that they refuse to read in light of their own understanding of Qur’an (49:9) and the distinction between lesser and major kufr.
The Rhetorical Question Our Opponents Cannot Answer
Let us conclude with a question for those who accuse the Ibadis of excommunicating the Companions:
According to their own undersatnding of Qur’an 49:9, when two groups of believers fight each other, are they still believers or not?
They cannot say “no” without contradicting the Qur’an.
And according to your own ḥadīth in Bukhārī and Muslim, fighting a Muslim is kufr. So how do you reconcile the Qur’an calling fighting believers ‘believers’ and the ḥadīth calling fighting ‘kufr’?
The only possible reconciliation is that kufr here does not mean apostasy. It means a lesser kufr, a grave sin, an act of major transgression—but not expulsion from the millah of Islam.
That is exactly what we Ibadis have been saying all along.
This is not meant as a ‘gotcha’ for the Sunnis, but a call for sincere reflection, bridge-building, and moving forward as an Ummah
Final Summary
Accusation
Reality
“Ibadis declare Companions to be disbelievers (apostates).”
Ibadis use kufr in the lesser sense (kufr ni’ma), as affirmed by Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Albānī, al-ʿUthaymīn, and others.
“Ibadis declare companions to be mushrik (polytheist).”
Ibadis have not declared a single companion to be a mushrik.
“Ibadis practice taqiyyah to hide their true beliefs.”
There is no concealment. Wuqūf (suspension) is a principled theological position, not taqiyyah.
“Ibadis invented the term kufr for Muslims.”
The term comes from how Allah defined it in the Qur’an.
“Ibadis are Khawārij who excommunicate Muslims.”
Ibadis distinguish themselves from extremist Khawārij precisely by affirming that kufr does not always entail expulsion from the millah.
“Contemporary Ibadis still declare the Companions disbelievers.”
The contemporary Ibadi position is overwhelmingly wuqūf and acceptance, with scholars praying for mercy upon all Companions.
Conclusion and Call for Fairness
We Ibadis do not ask anyone to agree with our historical interpretations. We do not ask anyone to adopt our doctrine of barā’ah. What we ask for is fairness—that we be judged by what we actually believe, not by the distorted caricature our opponents present.
We ask that our accusers to read their own understasnding of Qur’an (49:9) and the authentic ḥadīth. We ask that they read their own scholars—Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Dhahabī, al-ʿUthaymīn, al-Albānī—who affirm the very distinctions we make..
We ask that they stop accusing us of taqiyyah when we are explaining our doctrine openly.
If they insist that our definition of kufr means apostasy, they bear the burden of proof is upon the accuser—not us.
“And give full measure when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is the best [way] and best in result.” (Qur’an 17:35)
“As for those who struggle in Our cause, We will surely guide them along Our Ways. And Allah is certainly with the good-doers.” (Qur’an 29:69)
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One of the searchers for truth among the Shi’i has had some questions to the Ibadi in regard to the matters of Siffin and Nahrawan.
Question: Why did the people who differed with Ali over the arbitration not continue fighting if Ali had stopped fighting?
Answer: It is not permissible to continue the fighting while they are without an imam, for fear that they will die a death of ignorance. They must be under the banner of an Imam. So, a new imam should have been appointed. It is not reasonable to appoint an imam while they are at war. They must rest a little and agree on a specific person away from the battle front.
The people were angry with him because the consensus of the nation is that he (Ali) is the legitimate caliph and those who rebelled against him are rebels according to the text of the Qur’an and must be fought. But his pledge of allegiance was broken, so how could Imam Ali be a caliph when he submitted to the rule and accepted the two arbitrations, and how could they pledge allegiance to him as caliph when he was not of their opinion and did not join them?
Question: Why didn’t the people of Nahrawan after electing Abdullah ibn Wahb Al-Rasibi press the attack against Mu’awiya and his forces?
Answer: How do we know if the people of Nahrawan wanted to fight Mu’awiya?
Did Ali give them a chance to do as such? He surprised them with his army and caused their deaths through the treachery of al-Ash’ath himself, whom had forced (Ali) into arbitration. Likewise, the people of Nahrawan are innocent because they were never followers of Mu’awiya, otherwise they would not have refused to pledge allegiance to Mu’awiya and they were fought against the Umayyad state. This is well known from history.
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“By degrees shall We teach you, so you will not forget, except what Allah wills” (Qur’an 87:6-7)
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The clause, except by the Will of Allah comes in the Word of Allah to emphasize that what is reported happens by His Will (not otherwise). If he wills the opposite of that, it will be so. When Allah (swt) says that something happens if He wills it, it is intended to show His power and majesty because He has control over all things.
That is like in His saying, Exalted is He:
“By degrees shall We teach you, so you will not forget, except what Allah wills” (Qur’an 87:6-7)
If one argues that ‘except by what Allah wills’ is redundant language such that Muhammed (saw) must indeed have forgotten what Allah (swt) taught him then this would leave the whole of Islam in flux.
The meaning is that the exception here is to emphasize the negation.
If Allah (swt) wants the Prophet (saw) to recite the Qur’an without forgetting it, the exceptional clause cannot be construed to mean that, if He wishes, He will make him forget it. That would be a contradiction and defeat the whole purpose of the passage.
If one was to interpret the above passage that Muhammed (saw) did indeed forget some of what Allah (swt) taught him then we have no objective basis to determine what Muhammed (saw) fogot and what he did not.
This is why those who rely upon that which is unclear in tafsir always falter in their creed.
For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoever saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.” (Qur’an 5:32)
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Our colleague recalls this when they were at Zaytuna, California. So, one of the views of the Sunni school of Islam is that as long as someone hides their kufr/nifaq among the believers, they are safe.
However, in the Shafi’i school of jurisprudence, if a Muslim is knowingly negligent in prayer, he is killed and buried with the Muslims. It is recommended he repent, but not a must.
f1.3 Someone raised among Muslims who denies the obligatoriness of the prayer, zakat, fasting Ramadan, the pilgrimage, or the unlawfulness of wine and adultery, or denies something else upon which there is scholarly consensus (ijma`, def:b7) and which is necessarily known as being of the religion (N: necessarily known meaning things that any Muslim would know about if asked) thereby becomes an unbeliever (kafir and is executed for his unbelief (O: if he does not admit he is mistaken and acknowledge the Obligatoriness or unlawfulness of that which there is scholarly consensus upon. As for if he denies the obligatoriness of something there is not consensus upon, then he is not adjudged an unbeliever).
f1.4 A Muslim who holds the prayer to be obligatory but through lack of concern neglects to perform it until its proper time is over has not committed unbelief (dis: w18.2). Rather, he is executed, washed, prayed over, and buried in the Muslim’s cemetery as he is one of them. It is recommended, but not obligatory, that he be asked to repent (and if he does, he is not executed)).
Source: (‘Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of the Traveller) by Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri Translated by Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller)
Prima Qur’an comment: “It is recommended, but not obligatory, that he be asked to repent (and if he does, he is not executed)).”
This is a position that would never be accepted in the Ibadi school. This is because it is the right of every Muslim who falters to be called to repentance. What to do with a Muslim who is willfully negligent in his prayers will be decided by the ruling Imam, Hakam etc.
Taking a life is a huge matter in Islam and one of the things that reached us on taking a life of the believer from the sunnah are:
1. Adultery
2. Apostasy coupled with fighting the Muslims.
3. A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas)
So someone who is negligent in the prayer (as in just doesn’t even care) is executed?
Would this fall under the category of:
Adultery?
Apostasy?
Manslaughter?
Spreading corruption in the earth?
If the Shafi’i are honest with themselves and with you, it must be reasoned that, according to their principles of interpretation of all that which is based on their understanding of the Qur’an and Sunnah, the clearest category would be that of apostasy.
f1.4 A Muslim who holds the prayer to be obligatory but through lack of concern neglects to perform it until its proper time is over has not committed unbelief (dis: w18.2). Rather, he is executed, washed, prayed over, and buried in the Muslim’s cemetery as he is one of them. It is recommended, but not obligatory, that he be asked to repent (and if he does, he is not executed)).
This view would have many Muslims today executed. As there are a great many Muslims who are negligent in performing the prayer.
‘Abdullah bin Buraidah narrated that his father said:
“The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: ‘The covenant that distinguishes between us and them is prayer; so whoever leaves it, he has committed Kufr.’”
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Zubair that he heard Jabir b. ‘Abdullah saying. I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) observing this:
“Between man and polytheism and unbelief is the abandonment of salat.”
Buraidah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
Messenger of Allah (saw) said, “That which differentiates us from the disbelievers and hypocrites is our performance of Salat. He who abandons it, becomes a disbeliever.”
We have seen from the text above that their belief is as follows:
A person can neglect every aspect of Islam — prayer, fasting, zakat, enjoining good and forbidding evil, as long as they acknowledge through some lip service that what they are doing is wrong.
Only if a person states that the above aspects are not obligatory do they become a kafir (apostate, as Sunnis define it).
“Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget to practice it yourselves, and yet you study the book? Will you not understand?” (Qur’an 2:44)
Dear Muslim brothers and sisters, this Murji’ah doctrine of Sunni Islam is plain error.
May Allah suffice us!
Do you not want certainty in your life? Do you not want certainty in your heart?
Do you not want to know if you are truly a believer or not?
“Say: “If you do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 3:31)
Do you love Allah?
Than follow the Prophet Muhammed (saw) by doing such.
Allah will love you AND forgive your sins!
One of the signs that Allah loves us is that we actually obey Allah by following his commands and prohibitions. One of the signs that we are under the wrath of Allah is that we do not follow his commands and prohibitions.
Qur’an (23:1-9) The self-measurement test.
Read for yourself and see that prayer is an essential ingredient to being a believer!
“And they who carefully maintain their prayers.”
Ask yourself: “Am I in a state of ingratitude towards Allah? After everything our creator has given us, that which is beyond counting will I not be a Muslim? Will I not submit? Will I not surrender?”
There is no verse anywhere in the Qur’an where Islam means 51% submission. There is no verse where Islam means even 90% submission.
Read the following and may Allah flood your heart with light!
“Certainly will the believers have succeeded “ (Qur’an 23:1)
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Faith is not based on inheritance. We don’t inherit it from a family. You get it through conviction. Through understanding. Through contemplation. You can get rituals from your parents, from your family. However, faith is not an inheritance.
What are the signs that you have faith?
We do not have a device that can measure the faith of others. We do not have the right to measure the faith of others. We do not have a device where we can measure the faith of others. You are a level 10 and your faith is at level 2. No! Faith is in the chest (concealed).
“So whoever Allah wants to guide – He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide – He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe.”(Qur’an 6:125)
However, what are some of the manifest signs that are the signs of faith?
Allah (swt) himself has given each of us a way to check ourselves. Allah (swt) himself has given a unit of measure.
Allah (swt) gave us Qur’an 23:1-9 as a means of self assessment.
Qur’an (23:1-9) The self measurement test.
Certainly will the believers have succeeded:
“They who are during their prayer humbly submissive.”
Question: Are we humbly submissive during our prayers or is it a ritual you seek to get done and over with?
“And they who turn away from ill speech.”
Question: Do we turn away from ill speech? Or do we tolerate it, and indulge in it ourselves?
“And they who are observant of zakah.”
Question: Have we payed our Zakat Fitri and our Zakat Harta? Have we given what is due to others?
“And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed.”
Question: Do we guard our private parts? Do we act modestly with our speech our eyes and our tongues? Are we involved in looking at what we should not be looking at?
“But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors.”
Question: If we do beyond what Allah (swt) has enjoined will we not be among the transgressors?
“And those who are to their trusts and their promises attentive.”
Question: Are we keeping our promises? Are we keeping to our commitments?
“And they who carefully maintain their prayers.”
Question: Are we being vigilant about our prayers? Are we constantly missing prayers or not even praying at all? Are we aware of what we need to do to perform our prayers correctly?
This check list is not for us to measure others. This is a self-check list that Allah (swt) has given to each of us to measure ourselves.
“All praise be to Allah, Lord of all realms.” (Qur’an 1:2)
“I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me.” (Qur’an 51:56)
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This is a subject that evokes a gamut of thoughts, responses and emotions. Some of these thoughts and discussions center around conspiracy theories, the realm of what could or could be, pensive reflection and the downright silly.
Nonetheless, it is something we feel compelled to write about given recent events. Events should, by right, garner more interest and attention than what is currently being received. Humanity seems almost in a trance-like state.
We would encourage the readers to see the various translations of this verse into English. It is a rare occasion on which we would praise Muhsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali. Yet truth be told, their translation of Alameen as basically, “all that exists” really sums up the essence of what that word really means.
“All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the Alameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” – (Qur’an 1:2) -Muhsin Khan & Muhammed al-Hilali translation.
Another fascinating and praise-worthy translation of that verse is the one we have used for the opening of this post. That comes from my dear friend and respected brother, Fadel Soliman and the Bridges Foundation.
“All praise be to Allah, Lord of all realms.” (Qur’an 1:2) -Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ Translation
These translations are correct in that not only is Allah (swt) the Lord of all the “worlds” but everything that exists. In all realms, dimensions, the whole of all that is.
The point here is that if it was suddenly announced that there exist extra terrestrials* or extra-dimensional beings, this would not pose a problem for Islamic theology at all. The fact is that the Qur’an itself mentions beings such as angels and jinn before humanity.
However, certain faiths center their salvation around the “fall and redemption of mankind” and, as such, they would feel very threatened by such a revelation. This is why those who follow certain trends among Christians have already planted seeds in the populace that such beings would be “fallen angels” , “demons” or just downright “deceivers”.
*Extra Terrestrial definition: extra=meaning outside and terrestrial (having in common the word origin of terra firma meaning solid ground, or earth.
These beings would be in a 3D-based platform like we human beings are. They could vary in size, shape and proportion or have a very different evolutionary trajectory than what we have had. Yet, they would be tangible.
An Extra Dimensional being would be a being that exists outside the current standard model used by science known as General Relativity. Also, in theoretical particle physics, the current standard model is that the entirety of the known Universe can be adequately described in three spatial and one time dimensions. Thus, 4 dimensions.
Any entity or being discovered beyond this would shatter that model and this is why science itself is preparing for that possibility with theoretical physics such as string theory, multi-verse theory and so forth. The work being done at the Hadron Collider in Switzerland also assist in thesis papers that try to argue these points.
There are too many pressing challenges facing humanity and the Muslim ummah at large for any of our ‘ulemah to take this discussion seriously. Which is unfortunate.
There are two possible shifts that would happen in the Muslim ummah.
The vast majority of Muslims do not believe in either of the two more common competing models of evolution; that being Lamarckian or Darwinian evolution. They completely rule out that any model of evolution as proposed by science was involved in the creation of humanity.
There are Muslims who believe the belief in a model of evolution does not preclude humanity being a special creation of Allah (swt).
We would suppose that if we discovered extra-dimensional beings, this would bolster the position of proposition 2. If we discover other 3D-based life forms, this would bolster the position of proposition 1.
The other would be a possible seismic shift in the tafsir and understanding of the following verse:
“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” (Qur’an 21:30)
In the current mode of life, science currently concurs with current tafsir (commentary of this verse). In fact, if it holds true that any extra terrestrial 3D lifeforms we encounter is made from water, it would be a powerful testimony to the Qur’an.
However, should there be life forms found not created by water, but created from hydrogen or oxygen, then this would still be fascinating as water is composed of 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom.
Hydrogen itself is said to account for 73 to 75% of all matter in the current visible universe.
Allah (swt) has already mentioned in the Qur’an that he has created beings from photons or the electromagnetic field, what we commonly call, “Light”.
‘Aishah (r.a) reported:
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, “Angels were created from light, Jinn were created from a smokeless flame of fire, and ‘Adam was created from that which you have been told (i.e., sounding clay like the clay of pottery).”
“And He created the jinn from a smokeless flame of fire.” (Qur’an 55:15)
This Arabic word marjin, in our view, is best translated as plasma. That the jinn are plasma-based life forms.
Plasma-based lifeforms are a hypothetical life form taken seriously by astrobiologists. It makes up 99% of visible matter in the known universe.
“Oh assembly of jinn and humans! If you can penetrate beyond the realms of the heavens and the earth, then do so. ˹But˺ you cannot do that without ˹Our˺ authority.” (Qur’an 55:33)
“On that Day there will be no need for any human or jinn to be asked about their sins.” (Qur’an 55:39)
We have always found verse 33 of Surah Ar Rahman to be very interesting. It is always assumed by us Muslims that Jinn are intangible beings (and possibly this is still true) yet, it puzzles us: why would an intangible being having a challenge to pass beyond the heavens and the earth?
So, Jinn may actually be a generic term that refers to a confederation of life forms. Plasma-based lifeforms that are both tangible and non-tangible.
It maybe that the Jinn are a life form that would still require a power/technology to transit through the heavens and the earth.
In summary, the Qur’an has described other forms of intelligent or sentient beings that are not necessarily made from water.
“Allah! There is no god except Him, the Ever-Living, All-Sustaining.” (Qur’an 2:255)
Allah (swt) himself, is described as the Ever-Living and the Self-Sustaining. No one is going to argue that Allah (swt) is made out of water.
The point being, there are plenty of tools available to our ‘ulemah to interpret in the Qur’an with regard to what is living and what is not living.
What other life forms exist? Both water (hydrogen/oxygen) based and not?
The Gaia -Hypothesis:
The Gaia hypothesis, also known as Gaia theory or Gaia principle, proposes that all organisms and their inorganic surroundings on Earth are closely integrated to form a single and self-regulating complex system, maintaining the conditions for life on the planet.
This belief also helps to power the views of much of the New Age Movement. One could argue that this view permeates the belief of many tribal cultures, also known as animism.
Yet, this view or perspective would be nothing new or shocking. We (humans) are part of Gaia ourselves, we are not extraterrestrial nor aliens. We are not talking about bipedal beings from off world or other 3D-based sentient life forms.
Von Neumann Probe(s)
A von Neumann probe is a hypothetical space faring probe designed to self-replicate using raw materials found in any star system. Self-replicating machines would use technology to continue to rebuild themselves using the material they found in solar systems.
What is interesting is that this would most likely be our “first contact” with another sentient civilization. We as humans ourselves send probes like Voyager and others into space. They are sent to analyze and collect data and even samples from planets like Mars. The Von Neumann probes would be a great deal more advanced than those sent out by us. We ourselves may not be far off from developing such technology.
In fact, the Pentagon had announced a jaw-dropping claim.
In fact, the man who published the paper on behalf of the Pentagon, one Avi Loeb, chairman of Harvard University’s astronomy department, believes that we have been visited by such a Von Neumann probe very recently.
It is possible that another sentient civilization, with more advanced technology, has sent out such probes, just as we have. Think about the various models of cars that different nations on Earth have produced. Some are better than others. Or think about the various operating systems, or programming languages, some are certainly better than others.
Yet, when all is said and done. Self-replicating machines themselves had to have a designer or a creator. Who or what are they? Finding a Von Neumann probe does not rule out that such entities were created from water, or, at the very least, that hydrogen or oxygen were not part of their creation.
You may be interested in reading the following article in that regard:
ICHELLS — Living beings created from metal (non-carbon-based lifeforms)
In reality, this is a pushback against the idea of all life being based upon Carbon.
A champion for this idea is Professor Lee Cronin, Gradiner Chair of Chemistry at the College of Science and Engineering of the University of Glasgow. He and his team have a goal to create living cells out of metal. However, to be fair, he wants us to really think about what is living.
Because in a recent Ted Talk he stated:
“I propose to you that matter that can evolve is alive and this gives us the idea of making evolvable matter.”
He used polyoxometalates, a range of metal atoms linked to oxygen and phosphorus, to create cell-like bubbles that he calls inorganic-chemical-cells or iCHELLs.
There were a couple highlights we took from his informative talk.
The Problem with Origin “We can’t get further than the last ancestor, the last visible cell. That we could sequence or think back in history. So we don’t know how we got here.”
So there are two options:
Professor Lee Cronin seems distressed by the idea of intelligent design.
Intelligent design would be either:
God/Allah. Currently defined by people like him as the supranatural.
Sentient beings like Professor Cronin do on a larger scale what Professor Cronin is trying to do on a small scale.
He doesn’t seem to like this idea. So he proposes the emergence of chemical complexity. He states:
“The other thing we need to think about is the emergency of chemical complexity. This SEEMS most likely. So we have SOMEKIND of primordial soup. And this one happens to be a good source of all 20 amino acids. And SOMEHOW these Amino acids are combined, and life begins.”
“And we’re really becoming very close to understanding the key steps that makes dead stuff come alive. And again, when you’re thinking about how improbable this is, remember, five billion years ago….”
It is interesting that people like Carl Sagan and Professor Cronin think about the chauvinism of carbon being the only basis for life. Yet, you wonder why they posit God as the supra natural.
Ultimately, Professor Cronin and those who champion the ICHELLS will be challenged by yet another branch of science. Physics now enter the room.
In his section:
Molecules to iCHELLS: (Inorganic Chemical Cells)
“And this movie here shows this COMPETITION between molecules. Molecules are COMPETING for stuff. They’re all made of the same stuff but THEY WANT THEIR SHAPE TO WIN. THEY WANT THEIR SHAPE TO PERSIST and that is the key. If we can SOME HOW ENCOURAGE these molecules TO TALK to each other and MAKE THE RIGHT SHAPES and compete; they will start to form cells that will replicate and compete. If we manage to do that, FORGET THE MOLECULAR DETAIL. Let’s zoom out what that could mean?”
Now there is lots to unpack from this. A physicist, indeed a keen eye who would be interested in these choices of words? Do molecules actually compete? Do they have a type of sentience in which they want their shapes to win? Or does an outside force “WE” somehow encourage them to communicate and make the RIGHT shapes (as opposed to the wrong shapes)?
Hence, the need to “FORGET THE Molecular DETAIL.” Notice that, at least for Professor Cronin, he doesn’t want to get to the big picture (grand scheme) nor, in reality, the minutia (molecular detail). Let us just stay focused on the middle (what is now).
Because at what point do you not just say all of existence is alive and living. (Pantheism enters the room). Physicists also challenge the idea of whether matter truly exists or if it is simply a perception.
“He brings the living out of the dead and brings the dead out of the living and brings to life the earth after its lifelessness. And thus will you be brought out.” (Qur’an 30:19)
Though our commentary has been distracted by matters of theology and picking apart some of the ideas behind what is being stated, nonetheless, if Professor Cronin or others are successful, what they will do is show us that the odds of life forming elsewhere in the universe has greatly increased, as the building blocks do not need to be restricted to carbon.
Life forms based upon silicon, Methanogens, boron, arsenic, ammonia & sulfur
Basically, all these life forms are alternatives to carbon-based life forms. They are hypothetical life forms that evolve to become sentient, or even star-faring species. The ICHELLS received separate treatment due to the intriguing nature of metal evolving into a sentient species.
Memetic Life.
This idea is championed by famed atheist Richard Dawkins and taken further by George Van Driem. Van Driem believes in a philosophy known as symbiosis. It has much to do with the theory of language. In the Leiden school, a school of thought in linguistics that models languages as memes or bening neurological parasites.
Language itself is an organism. Language is a symbiotic organism. The idea goes as this. In the past two and half million years, humanity has acquired a genetic predisposition to serve as a host for this symbiont.
The more you read up on this, the more you realize what is being argued is not a life form that can be detected by a tool or instrument. Only a theoretical organism or entity of which only its impact can be studied, or measured with tools and instruments, i.e. language.
Scientist and nanotechnologist, Robert A, Jr. who was awarded the Feynman Prize in theoretical nanotechnology and was the first to publish a detailed technical design study of a medical nanorobot ever published in a mainstream peer-reviewed journal, has had this to say:
“Gravitational creatures could also exist, as gravity is the most common and efficient fundamental force in the universe. Such creatures could derive energy from gravity itself, with immense gravitational entities feeding on collisions between black holes, galaxies, or other celestial objects, somewhat smaller entities from the rotational and orbital movement of planets, and still smaller gravitational entities feeding from the energy of waterfalls, wind patterns, tides and ocean currents, or even earthquakes.”
He has stated that possible metabolisms for living systems are based on the four fundamental forces—electromagnetism, strong nuclear force (or quantum chromodynamics), weak nuclear force, and gravity.
Electromagnetic life is the standard biological life found on Earth as well as alien biological configurations and machine-based life-forms.
Chromodynamic beings or lifeforms that form in Neutron stars.
“Chromodynamic life might be possible based on the strong nuclear force, which is the strongest of the fundamental forces, but only over extremely short distances. He suggests that such an environment is possible on a neutron star, a heavy, spinning object 10–20 kilometers (6–12 mi) in diameter with the mass of a star. With high-density, incredible magnetic fields and gravity 100 billion times that of Earth, they have a 3-kilometer-thick (2 mi) crust of crystalline iron nuclei. Under this is a sea of extremely hot neutrons with a variety of nuclear particles, including protons and atomic nuclei and possibly highly neutron-rich “macronuclei.” These macronuclei could theoretically form larger supernuclei analogous to organic molecules, with neutrons acting as the equivalent of water in an extremely bizarre pseudo-biological system.”
Under such a theory a possible intelligent and sentient life force would arise rather quickly. Nuclear interactions occur much faster than atomic chemistry. Such a theoretical life form could go from simple tools to advanced technology in the equivalent of one earth month.
Plasma-based life forms.
“Organic life on Earth is based on carbon compound molecules, and we have already discussed several biological alternatives to carbon. But in 2007, an international team led by V.N. Tsytovich of the General Physics Institute of the Russian Academy of Science documented that in the correct conditions, particles of inorganic dust can become organized into helical structures, which can then interact with each other in a manner very similar to organic chemistry. This behavior occurs in a state of plasma, the fourth state of matter beyond solid, liquid, and gas, where electrons are torn from atoms, leaving behind a mass of charged particles.”
“Tsytovich’s team found that as electronic charges became separated and the plasma became polarized, particles in the plasma self-organized into corkscrew-shaped helical structures electrically charged and attracted to one another. They could also divide to form copies of the original structure, much like DNA, and induce changes in their neighbors. According to Tsytovich, “These complex, self-organized plasma structures exhibit all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter. They are autonomous, they reproduce, and they evolve.”
The discovery of some life forms could be a double-edged sword for us as believers?
Weak nuclear forces, gravitational or chromodynamic life forms are a double-edged sword for us as believers.
In a sense, the discovery of such entities (if real or possible) would have to humble the skeptics of Angels and Jinn. On the other hand, it is a double-edged sword. The reason being is that skeptics and atheists could have a basis to say that angels, jinn and other non-corporeal entities were, and have been in fact all this while, a Chromodynamic life form. You could even see someone like Richard Dawkins say that religion was created by a being created from weak nuclear force as some kind of cosmic joke on humanity.
These are the kind of attacks we would possibly have to endure.
The Sirius Star and The Qur’an.
Allah (swt) is the Lord of the Sirius star.
“And that it is He who is the Lord of Sirius.” (Qur’an 53:49)
Some Muslims have posited that this verse has a mathematical code that refers to it being a binary star. It is interesting that out of all the stars known to the Arabs in the time of the Blessed Messenger (saw), Allah (swt) has singled out this star. Allah (swt) could have mentioned Alderbaran, Algebar, Altair, Thuban or many others.
It was known to be an object of worship among many ancient cultures. There is a tribe in Burkina Faso known as the Dogon tribe that claim to have descended from this region of space. It is the focus of much occult work and those involved in research and/or speculation concerning beings from the Sirius star cluster.
There is a documentary entitled: Sirius.
The man behind this project, Dr. Steven Greer, is known in the UFO community. There are those who say this is a grift, which he is making serious money charging serious money. There are those who say he is a disinfo agent. One thing is for sure, when he is invited to speak as a guest, he can hardly allow anyone else to have a word in edge wise.
Dr. Steven Greer and those who work with him say that the real reason for the information about UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) or UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) is that this relates to issues of energy monopoly by the big oil companies.
That, by admitting that advanced beings come to Earth, the ultimate question that mechanics, physics and others will ask is: How?
They are obviously not using coal, gas and oil. So this will challenge not someone’s million-dollar piggy bank but their multi-billion dollar piggy bank. Suddenly, companies like Saudi Aramco, China Petroleum & Chemical Corp, PetroChina Co. Ltd, ExxonMobil Corp, Shell PLC, Total Energies SE, Chevron Corp, BP PLC etc. are seen as real threats to humanity as they pay money and influence people in positions of power to keep these phenomena under wraps. That they orchestrate wars and manipulate global politics all for $$, all for greed.
We will share two YouTube videos that may give you an idea how such a technology might work. WARNING: one of the videos has MUSIC. You can get the educational benefit by turning the VOLUME DOWN.
The interesting thing about the video above if you go to the @1:115 (one minute 15 second mark) is you can get to see how a craft may function.
Now, if a species decided to explore magnetism and the electromagnetic field over, say, fossil fuels for their needs, they could be quite adept at harnessing magnetic potential. You could develop a technology that would reverse the polarity of ions in the atmosphere via an increase or decrease in electronegativity. This would create a pull or push motion. Having super conductive metals that could be super-cooled or super-heated without affecting their durability may be ideal for construction of such a craft.
The Pleiadean Star Cluster and Islam
Narrated Abu Huraira:
While we were sitting with the Prophet (saw) Surat Al-Jumu’a was revealed to him, and when the Verse, “And He (Allah) has sent him (Muhammed) also to other (Muslims)…..’ (62.3) was recited by the Prophet, I said, “Who are they, O Allah’s Messenger (saw)?” The Prophet (saw) did not reply till I repeated my question thrice. At that time, Salman Al-Farisi was with us. So Allah’s Messenger (saw) put his hand on Salman, saying, “If Faith were at (the place of) Ath-Thuraiya (pleiades, the highest star), even then (some men or man from these people (i.e. Salman’s folk) would attain it.”
The Pleiades star cluster is also a star cluster featured predominantly among the Native American people’s, the Aboriginal people’s of Australia. The car Subaru is Japanese for Pleiades and their logo reflects the cluster.
Canadian Former Minister of Defense claims that Earth is/has been visited by no less than 4 different distinct species of Extra Terrestrials. He also has claimed that Allah (swt) is his God! Mash’Allah.
He is the first person of cabinet rank from a G-7 Nation to unequivocally do so.
The following video is also worth a watch. In this he discusses energy issues, global power politics, the significance of the extraterrestrial presence, the fake war on Islam. In the video, the former Minister of Defense, Paul Hellyer, states: @ 22 minutes 40 seconds
“I was in my 80s before I knew that Allah is my God.”
Other points of interest.
There is an organization that is well funded that actually looks for alien civilizations.
They are called SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Life).
Thank you, Wayback Machine! Another interesting figure at that Royal Society meeting was one Ivan Almar. Ivan Almar is a part of METI International. http://meti.org/mission
The objectives of this organization are:
The primary objectives and purposes of METI International are to: • Conduct scientific research and educational programs in Messaging Extraterrestrial Intelligence (METI) and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). • Promote international cooperation and collaboration in METI, SETI, and astrobiology. • Understand and communicate the societal implications and relevance of searching for life beyond Earth, even before the detection of extraterrestrial life. • Foster multidisciplinary research on the design and transmission of interstellar messages, building a global community of scholars from the natural sciences, social sciences, humanities, and arts.
So think about it. This is just what is under the veneer of the day-to-day of your distractions with TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, and otherwise being in a day-to-day state of blur. You can readily see there are organizations and activities that are happening that have huge implications for humanity.
The Implications for Muslims.
We hope, dear reader, we have at least piqued your interest in these phenomena and topic. The implication of this as Muslims is that, no matter what is revealed or discussed concerning this subject, it should never take away from our core beliefs.
Allah (swt) is the lord of all realms (the alameen) all that exist.
Allah (swt) is our Creator and not other wordly entities or beings.
That Allah (swt) is sufficient for us and the best disposer of our affairs.
To be aware of the possibility of extreme deception with regard to these phenomena.
Possible areas of deception are.
They are the creators or have revealed themselves to be.
The whole thing could be staged or faked. There could be humans who have willingly had their genetics tampered with to go along with such a ruse.
Fake Alien invasion in order to introduce more measures of control over the Earth.
The truth about their technology is being concealed in an effort to maintain the current energy status quo.
There could be malevolent entities (Jinn, or anything else) working in concert to release information that harms us and not benefit. One is reminded of the verse
“They learned what harmed them and did not benefit them.” (Qur’an 2:102) for example, giving technologies that advance war fighting and not medicine, communication or clean energy.
Possibility of a ruse by certain governments in order to throw other governments off balance while planning a massive war on said government.
One thing is certain, these objects that have been spotted over North America recently and the Pentagon coming out and saying that it is possible that there is a “mother ship” that is launching probes at Earth we as humanity, are slowly being prepped and prepared for something.
“And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.” (Qur’an 17:81)
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