“And each one hath a goal toward which he turns; so contend with one another in good works. Wheresoever you may be, Allah will bring you all together. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.” (Qur’an 2:148)
“Allah will judge between you on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which you used to differ.” (Qur’an 22:69)
“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).
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Insh’Allah the following section in the future will be found under the section above: Engaging The Sunni & Shi’I
This is a collection of articles in regard to the Shi’i and their various claims. Also are articles in relation to the Shi’i.
“Do not fight the kharijites after me, because one who seeks a right but does not find it, is not like the one who seeks a wrong and finds it.” –Ali Ibn Abu Talib
Source: (Nahju Al-Balagha Vol. 1, p. 67, speech no. 56.)
The words “He who seeks a right but does not find it” – as ‘Ali himself says – is an allusion to the Nahrawanees who are otherwise known as the Khawarij. The words “Unlike he who seeks misguidance intentionally” refer to Mu’awiya and his Syrian forces.
“Are the Khawarij mushrikun?” Ali said: “They flee from shirk.” Are they munafiqun? Ali said: “The hypocrites remember Allah only a little.” Then what are they? Ali said: “They are our brothers who transgressed against us (ikhwanuna baghaw ‘alayna), so we fought them for their transgression.”
Source: (Al-Bidāya wa l-Nihāya 10:591)
The Ibadi are obviously not Khawarij to anyone who has common sense. However, for those who insist that we are you have to contend with the above statements.
DO READ THIS FIRST. It is important to understand that we believe and accept that those who call themselves ‘Shi’i’ are Muslims.
We understand that ‘Shi’i’ is a term for a loose federation of various sects that all come under the understanding that Ali Ibn Abu Talib should have been the first Amir of the Muslims or was the most deserving of being that Amir.
The Shi’i are not all the same.
The name shi’i refers to a broad spectrum. From among them are those who simply prefer Ali. Believing he had the qualities best suited for leadership. Among them are those who believe in esoteric doctrines which blur the lines and distinction between the Creator and the created.
We endorse the Amman accord: http://ammanmessage.com/the-three-points-of-the-amman-message-v-1/
Even before the Amman accord the Ibadi have regarded the Shi’i as Ahl Al Qiblah.
You have your polemical works directed towards each other -Ithna-Ashari versus Zaydi versus Ismaili.
Thus it is in that spirit that this section is created. We have just as much right to contend for the truth as anyone else does.We have the right to allow the Muslim community to make an informed decision on various controversial issues.
You have your narrative and we have our narrative. Allah is with those who are the truthful!
“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).
There are a few reasons why we need to becareful or approach with caution what the Shi’i claim about themselves and their sources.
Dr. Musa Al-Musawi (The grandson of Ayatollah Abu L-Hassan al-Isfahani) says the following:
“Although we believe that most of the forged narratives from the Imams, were forged after al-ghiba al-kubra (the disappearance of Al-Mahdi Al Muntadhar)…..but any impartial researcher will necessarily conclude that even during the time of the Shiite Imams, many narratives were fabricated and ascribed to the Imams, in the like manner as they were fabricated and attributed to the Prophet.”
Source: (al-Shi’a wa-l-tashih: al-Sira’ bayn al-shi’a wa-l-tashayyu'(the struggle between Shia and Shiism p. 135)
We cannot take Ali at face value.
Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet (saw) said:
“On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, ‘O Lord (those are) my companions!’ It will be said, ‘You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam).
Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6585)
There are those who would make the Ummah believe that Ali is an article of faith or part of the testimony of faith. This is a far cry from the truth. This hadith shows that Ali has to be examined like anyone else. One cannot cite a particular hadith and say that Ali is exempted from examination. Why is this? Once one accepts this particular hadith, everyone becomes suspect. There are no exemptions. Because at this point we cannot be sure that those who narrate this or that in favour of this or that one are not among the apostates themselves! Therefore, we have to systematically examine the data case by case. Islam is a faith of proof and evidence and not a faith of emotions and rhetoric.
Our school is pragmatic.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
When Allah revealed the Verse: “Warn your nearest kinsmen,” Allah’s Messenger (saw) got up and said, “O people of Quraish (or said similar words)! Buy (i.e. save) yourselves (from the Hellfire) as I cannot save you from Allah’s Punishment; O Bani `Abd Manaf! I cannot save you from Allah’s Punishment, O Safiya, the Aunt of Allah’s Messenger (saw)! I cannot save you from Allah’s Punishment; O Fatima bint Muhammed! Ask me anything from my wealth, but I cannot save you from Allah’s Punishment.”
Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2753)
“Neither your relatives nor children will benefit you on Judgment Day—He will decide between you ˹all˺. For Allah is All-Seeing of what you do.” (Qur’an 60:3)
“It is not ˹proper˺ for the Prophet and the believers to seek forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were close relatives, after it has become clear to the believers that they are bound for the Hellfire.” (Qur’an 9:113)
The three positions on Ali Ibn Abi Talib.
Our colleague relates their personal experience with Shi’i.
Ali initially agreed with the ‘Khawarij’ before being misled by Al-Ash’ath Bin Qaid Al-Kindi
Inter Shi’i conflicts: After Ali Then Who?
Are we to follow Infallible Imams according to the Qur’an?
Imami Shi’i 700 years of no Prophet and No Imam After Jesus (as)?
Hadith on Ghadir Khum
Ibadi hadith master, Shaykh Al Qanoubi on Hadith Al Thaqalyn
The Hadith: You are to me as Aaron is to Moses
The Hadith of the 12 leaders.
Calamity of Thursday: The Hadith of Pen and Paper.
How did the Shi’i imams prevent the corruption of the Torah and the Gospel?
A garden variety refutation of Shi’i Imami concept being from the Qur’an.
Purification of the Ahl Bayt?
The Shi’i believe the Prophets are Masoom (Infallible) however..
For Those Shi’i who do slander Aisha (ra)
Social experiment: If Shi’i sources are to be believed it portrays Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) as a violent woman abuser and Ali Ibn Abu Talib as a cowardly man.
Ali ibn Abi Talib his ijtihad and burning people alive.
Sunni and Shi’i narrators state that Ali bin Abi Talib drank alcohol and offered prayers while intoxicated?
Tawassul and Istigatha according to the Ibadi school.
Ali is with the truth and the truth is with Ali.
The time Al Abbas called Ali ibn Abu Talib a sinful, treacherous, deceitful liar.
I am at war with the one who is at war with Ali.
Iblis loves Imam Ali
An Awesome relationship The Shi’i and Abu Huarayrah
Historical Issues and Politics & Contemporary Issues.
The Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) never predicted that Hussain Ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib would die as a martyr.
What really happened at the battle of Siffin?
What really happened at the battle of Nahrawan?
Questions every sincere Shi’i must ask concerning Siffin and Nahrawan.
Ex 12er Shi’i sister has questions about Siffin. An Ex Shi’i sister has some follow up questions for one of our teachers.
Response to Dr. Ali Hur Kampoonpuri’s false claim that he debated Ibadi scholars. & His attempt to refute Ibadi’s on Siffin.
SUNNI & SHI’A NARRATIVES OF SIFFIN AND AL-NAHRAWAN
Sunni-Shi’a sectarian/political point scoring over Palestine.
Pro Alid YouTube channel thows Ibn Abbas (ra) under the Bus!
Turkey is home to the 3rd largest Shi’i population in the Middle East.
Isma’ili Shi’i
Isma’ili Nizari Shi’a and Circular Reasoning
There is no evidence that the Nizari Isma’ili Imam can properly recite the Qur’an. (Our colleague presses a Nizari Ismaili professor from Harvard)
Can a Child of Zani be an Imam? Isma’ili Shi’a & Ibadi Views.
What is Tawhid? Debate between a Nizari Ismaili Shi’a and Athari-Salafi Sunni
Imam Mahdi
An entire prison in Iran dedicated to people claiming to be Mahdi!
Top Shi’i Imam admits waiting for ‘Hidden Imam’ has been a waste of time.
Shi’i and the Origin of Black People: Blatant Racism
The Ark of Noah and the Descendants of Prophets.
Is the Qur’an that we are in Possession of Distorted? | Sayyid Ali Abu Al-Hasan-Great Insights!
Brother Ilyas shares his thoughts on a recent article concerning Shi’ism.
Neither Shi’i nor Sunni: An Interview with a Mozabite-Anthony T. Fiscella
Adnan Rashid gaslighting the Shi’i over the Khawarij
https://primaquran.com/2024/03/11/adnan-rashid-gaslighting-the-shia-over-the-khawarij/
THE TIME ALI IBN ABU TALIB SLAUGHTERED 2/3 OF THE ALIENS IN SPACE
Insh’Allah more to come…
The sword on the neck of al-Aʽmash the treacherous narrator.
Nasibi Tendencies With in Shi’ism: Why do Some Shi’i curse the Prophet (saw) grandson Hassan? His wife Aisha (ra)?
Taking a look at Mutah Marriages.
The Virtues of Abu Bakr Sadiq (ra)
Musta’li Ismaili refutation of Nizari Ismaili claims
May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.
May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.
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