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In Ibadi theology, a Wali of Allah can sin. One who has true spiritual guardianship can be killed.

“O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor, Allah is best to ensure their interests. So do not let your desires cause you to deviate. If you distort the testimony or refuse to give it, then Allah is certainly All-Aware of what you do.” (Qur’an 4:135)

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The position of the Ibadi school concerning the Wali of Allah. Whoever has attained the rank of wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah (true spiritual guardianship), his guardianship is never nullified under any circumstance. Therefore, there is no room for enmity against him, even if he were to commit grave sins.

However, falsehood is never accepted from him, and if he falls into one of the prescribed punishments of Allah, the punishment of Allah is carried out upon him — yet his guardianship is not revoked.

Indeed, the Messenger of Allah (saw) carried out the punishment of stoning on Māʿiz (may Allah be pleased with him), and instructed his companions to seek forgiveness for him. The same was the case with the Ghamīdī woman. Thus, wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah neither nullifies rights nor abolishes punishments.

The Ghamīdī woman & Ma’iz b. Malik al-Aslami -may Allah be pleased with them both.

‘Abdullah b. Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Ma’iz b. Malik al-Aslami came to Allah’s Messenger (saw) and said:

Allah’s Messenger, I have wronged myself; I have committed adultery and I earnestly desire that you should purify me. He turned him away. On the following day, he (Ma’iz) again came to him and said: Allah’s Messenger, I have committed adultery. Allah’s Messenger (saw) turned him away for the second time, and sent him to his people saying: Do you know if there is anything wrong with his mind. They denied of any such thing in him and said: We do not know him but as a wise good man among us, so far as we can judge. He (Ma’iz) came for the third time, and he (The Blessed Prophet) sent him as he had done before. He asked about him and they informed him that there was nothing wrong with him or with his mind. When it was the fourth time, a ditch was dug for him and he (The Blessed Prophet) pronounced judgment about him and he wis stoned.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1695b)

أُرِيدُ أَنْ تُطَهِّرَنِي -I want you to purify me.

He (the narrator) said: There came to him (The Blessed Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah’s Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (The Blessed Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah’s Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma’iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (The Blessed Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah’s Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (The Blessed Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah’s Messenger (saw)heard his (Khalid’s) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (The Blessed Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1695b)

Buraida told that Ma’iz b. Malik came to the Prophet and said, “Purify me, Messenger of Allah.” He replied, “Out upon you! Go back, ask Allah’s forgiveness and turn to Him in repentance.” He said that he went back not very far, then came and said, “Purify me, Messenger of Allah,” and the Prophet said the same as he had said before. When this went on till a fourth time he asked, “For what am I to purify you?” and he replied that it was because of fornication. Allah’s Messenger then asked if the man was mad, and when he was told that he was not, he asked if he had drunk wine. A man got up and smelt his breath but noticed no smell of wine, so the Prophet asked him if he had committed fornication, and when he replied that he had, he gave orders regarding him and he was stoned to death. Two or three days later Allah’s Messenger came and said, Ask forgiveness for Ma’iz b. Malik. He has repented to such an extent that if it were divided among a people it would be enough for them all.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/mishkat:3562)

The Key Point: After the execution of the punishment, the Blessed Prophet (saw) did not declare them to be enemies of Allah or eternal denizens of Hellfire. Instead, he spoke well of their repentance and even instructed the companions to pray for them. This prayer (ṣalāt al-janāzah) itself is an act that is only performed for Muslims.

This proves that while their sinful action demanded earthly punishment, their essential faith and status as believers (awlīyāʾ in the true sense) were not completely obliterated. Their sincere repentance preserved their wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah

The 10 sons of Yaʿqūb/Jacob -peace be upon him.

We also believe in the wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah of the ten sons of Prophet Yaʿqūb (peace be upon him) who wronged their brother, fabricated false stories to cover their crimes — their falsehood is not accepted, yet their guardianship is not revoked. It remains upon them, their father, their brother, and our Messenger (peace and blessings be upon them all).

“But My Promise is not within the reach of (zalimin) evil-doers. (Qur’an 2:124)

What did these descendants of Prophet Ibrahim (as) get up to?

They cried, “Our father! We went racing and left Joseph with our belongings, and a wolf devoured him! But you will not believe us, no matter how truthful we are.” (Qur’an 12:17)

These Muwahid, The Ahl Bayt of Jacob (as), Sons of a Prophet lied to their father! Imagine telling your own father that his son (your own brother) was eaten by a wolf! Can you imagine the grief it would bring him?!

Allah (swt) tells us in very vivid language how severe the grief and trauma of Jacob (as). The trauma that Prophet Jacob (as) went through on account of his progeny, the progeny of the Household.

“He turned away from them, lamenting, “Alas, poor Joseph!” And his eyes turned white out of the grief he suppressed.” (Qur’an 12:84)

He replied, “O my dear son! Do not relate your vision to your brothers, or they will devise a plot against you. Surely Satan is a sworn enemy to humankind.” (Qur’an 12:5)

Jacob (as) knew among his ahl bayt were schemers!

“˹Remember˺ when they said ˹to one another˺, “Surely Joseph and his brother ˹Benjamin˺ are more beloved to our father than we, even though we are a group of so many. Indeed, our father is clearly mistaken.” (Qur’an 12:8)

Can you imagine talking about your father (a Prophet) like that?

“Kill Joseph or cast him out to some ˹distant˺ land so that our father’s attention will be only ours, then after that you may ˹repent and˺ become righteous people!” (Qur’an 12:9)

They said, “O our father! Why do you not trust us with Joseph, although we truly wish him well? (Qur’an 12:11)

The Ahl Bayt of Jacob (as) Lie #1 to their father.

“Send him out with us tomorrow so that he may enjoy himself and play. And we will really watch over him.” (Qur’an 12:12)

So he can enjoy himself, Lie #2, and they will watch over him Lie #3.

“Then they returned to their father in the evening, weeping. They cried, “Our father! We went racing and left Joseph with our belongings, and a wolf devoured him! But you will not believe us, no matter how truthful we are.” (Qur’an 12:16-17)

“And they brought his shirt, stained with false blood. He responded, “No! Your souls must have tempted you to do something ˹evil˺. So ˹I can only endure with˺ beautiful patience! It is Allah’s help that I seek to bear your claims.” (Qur’an 12:18)

Look at the extent of their manipulation! Fake tears like actors crying on que! A prop piece—his shirt stained with false blood. Gaslighting their father.

Joseph was eaten by a wolf. Lie #4 Brought a shirt with false blood Lie #5

“Return to your father and say, ‘O our father! Your son (Benjamin)committed theft. We testify only to what we know. We could not guard against the unforeseen.” (Qur’an 12:81)

They claimed their other brother, Benjamin, was a thief and lied to their father, yet again. Lie #6

The Ahl Bayt of Jacob, the guilty among them, finally return in repentance to Allah (swt)

“They admitted, “By Allah! Allah has truly preferred you over us, and we have surely been sinful.” (Qur’an 12:91)

“They begged, “O our father! Pray for the forgiveness of our sins. We have certainly been sinful.” (Qur’an 12:97)

Satan ignited rivalry between the Ahl Bayt of Jacob (as)

“Then he raised his parents to the throne, and they all fell down in prostration to Joseph,1 who then said, “O my dear father! This is the interpretation of my old dream. My Lord has made it come true. He was truly kind to me when He freed me from prison, and brought you all from the desert after Satan had ignited rivalry between me and my siblings. Indeed my Lord is subtle in fulfilling what He wills. Surely He ˹alone˺ is the All-Knowing, All-Wise.” (Qur’an 12:100)

What to make of the sons of Jacob (as) Al Muwahid who lied to their father (a Prophet) because they were jealous of their brother? The sons of a prophet can conspire against their brother.

Their falsehood is not accepted, yet their guardianship is not revoked.

Analysis of the Examples Provided

  1. The Sons of Prophet Yaʿqūb (AS):
    • This example is even more striking and is particularly emphasized in Ibāḍī theology to drive the point home.
    • Their crime was immense: they attempted murder on their brother Yūsuf (AS), threw him in a well, lied to their father, and caused him immense grief. This constitutes major sins involving injustice, deception, and breaking familial ties.
    • Ibāḍī Interpretation: Despite this, the Qur’an never refers to them as disbelievers (kuffār). They are still considered among the prophets’ descendants. Prophet Yaʿqūb (AS) and Prophet Yūsuf (AS) eventually forgave them. Their story ends with forgiveness and family reconciliation.
    • This demonstrates that even such heinous sins did not irrevocably sever their essential connection to the legacy of prophethood and faith (wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah), though they were certainly held accountable for their actions in this world and were rebuked in the Qur’an.

The established principle regarding spiritual guardianship (wilayah) is that one who possesses true guardianship never loses it, regardless of sins committed — we are certain they will die repentant. Thus, we reject their wrong actions while maintaining a connection to their essential spiritual station. The converse is equally true.

An example of the converse being true: Bara’ah al-Haqiqa

The example of Abu Lahab.

May the hands of Abu Lahab perish, and he perish! Neither his wealth nor gains will benefit him. He will burn in a flaming Fire, and his wife, the carrier of kindling,around her neck will be a rope of palm-fibre. (Qur’an 111:1-5)

Some Muslims use a flawed argument about Abu Lahab to prove the truth of the Qur’an, saying: “If Abu Lahab had taken the shahādah, it would have made the Qur’an false.”

This is incorrect. The words of Allah (swt) are absolute truth, whereas Abu Lahab’s actions (if he had ever claimed faith) would have been deception. Allah (swt) has already decreed his fate. He is the very definition of one being in barā’ah ḥaqīqah (the true dissociation), being truly cut off.

If Allah (swt) did not reveal this about Abu Lahab, and he took the testification of faith, he would be in Walayah al-Dhahir – The apparent friendship. This is a matter of jurisprudence.

However, since Allah (swt) revealed his state Bara’ah al-Haqiqah – The real dissociation. This is a matter of theology.

The example of Adam -upon him be peace.

We believe in the true spiritual guardianship of our father Adam (as), while Allah explicitly states in Scripture that he disobeyed and erred, then sought forgiveness and repented. We affirm his true guardianship while disassociating from his wrong actions. Similarly:

“They said: ‘Our Lord we have wronged ourselves souls. If You forgive us not and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers’ ” (Quran 7:23) 

“So Adam disobeyed his Lord, and lost his way. Then his Lord chose him, accepted his repentance, and guided him.” (Qur’an 20:121-122)

Thus, Adam-upon him be peace, is in true spiritual guardianship.

The Ahl Bayt of Adam (as). The household of the Prophet Adam (as)

The first murderer in human history was a descendant of a Prophet.

Cain killed his brother Abel.  Both were descendants of the Prophet Adam (as).   Yet, one was righteous and the other became the ‘first’ murderer.  Such that Allah (swt) made an example of this particular incident throughout time.

“So his soul permitted to him the murder of his brother, so he killed him and became among the losers.” (Qur’an 5:30)

And recite to them the story of Adam’s two sons, in truth, when they both offered a sacrifice, and it was accepted from one of them but was not accepted from the other. Said [the latter], “I will surely kill you.” Said [the former], “Indeed, Allah only accepts from the righteous [who fear Him]”. (Qur’an 5:27)

Humanity is not even in its infancy and here we have two descendants of the Prophet Adam (as). One of them has the hallmark of being remembered for all time as being the first murderer. Allah (swt) said that one of them was (mutaqi) righteous, meaning the other was not.

Does the son of Adam (as) get a pass for murdering his brother simply because he is the son of a Prophet?

“Then Allah sent a crow digging in the ground, in order to show him how to bury the corpse of his brother. He cried, “Alas! Have I failed to be like this crow and bury the corpse of my brother?” So he became regretful.” (Qur’an 5:31)

The regret here is not from his action but because he was not able to cover up his action. This son of Adam is in Barā’ah. This son of a Prophet is in Barā’ah

It is from the Sunnah of the Prophet to disavow any Muslim (including a companion) when they commit a sin.

First and foremost, to disavow any Muslim when they commit a sin is from the Sunnah of the Blessed Prophet (saw). This includes the companions.

Narrated Salim’s father:

The Prophet (saw) sent Khalid bin Al-Walid to the tribe of Jadhima and Khalid invited them to Islam but they could not express themselves by saying, “Aslamna (i.e. we have embraced Islam),” but they started saying “Saba’na! Saba’na (i.e. we have come out of one religion to another).” Khalid kept on killing (some of) them and taking (some of) them as captives and gave every one of us his Captive. When there came the day then Khalid ordered that each man (i.e. Muslim soldier) should kill his captive, I said, “By Allah, I will not kill my captive, and none of my companions will kill his captive.” When we reached the Prophet, we mentioned to him the whole story. On that, the Prophet (saw) raised both his hands and said twice, “O Allah, I disavow before You what Khalid has done.” ‏ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَبْرَأُ إِلَيْكَ مِمَّا صَنَعَ خَالِدٌ

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4339)

‏ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَبْرَأُ إِلَيْكَ مِمَّا صَنَعَ خَالِدٌ- allahuma ‘iiniy ‘abra ‘iilayk mimaa sanae khalid

Core Principles of the Ibāḍī Position on Wilāyat al-Ḥaqīqah

The Separation of Status from Action: A person’s fundamental spiritual state (ḥāl)—their belief, inner conviction, and love for Allah—is distinct from their outward actions. A major sin is a catastrophic failure in action, but it does not automatically annihilate the foundation of faith (īmān) in the heart.

Two Types of Wilāyah: Our scholars often delineate between:

  • Wilāyat al-Ḥaqīqah (True/Essential Guardianship): This is the inner, spiritual reality of being a friend of Allah. It is based on sincere belief, knowledge of Allah (maʿrifah), and righteous intention. This state, once truly attained, is considered by us Ibāḍīs to be a permanent reality that is not nullified by subsequent sin. It is a matter of the heart’s condition, which is known only to Allah.
  • Wilāyat al-Dīn (Religious/Legal Guardianship): This is the outward, legal expression of that friendship. It governs how the community interacts with the individual. This can be nullified by public, major sin because the community must judge based on what is apparent (ẓāhir). Loss of wilāyat al-dīn means the person is no longer considered part of the community of believers in a socio-legal sense; they may be ostracized or subject to legal penalties.

If they sincerely repent, they are put back into Wilāyat al-Dīn. If they have committed an offense that comes under qisas, hadd, or ta’zir, they are dealt with accordingly.

Our examples perfectly explain the consequence of this distinction: the inner wilāyah remains, but the outer consequences of sin are not waived.

To find out more on this please see our article here:

Ibadi positon Contrast with Other Schools

This position places classical Ibāḍīsm in a unique middle ground between other schools:

  • Vs. Khawārij: The Khawārij held that any major sin makes a person a disbeliever (kāfir), nullifying any form of wilāyah and making them eternally damned. The Ibāḍīs vehemently reject this, as shown by our text.
  • Vs. Murjiʾah: The Murjiʾah held that sin does not harm faith at all; a person’s faith remains complete regardless of their actions. We, the Ibāḍīs reject this, insisting that sins have real consequences and that outward wilāyah is lost.

A person’s essential spiritual identity as a friend of Allah (wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah), once truly established through sincere faith, is a resilient reality that is not erased by sin. However, this inner state does not provide immunity from divine law or its consequences in the world. The community must uphold justice (execute punishments, reject falsehood) while maintaining a principled optimism about the depth of Allah’s mercy and the potential for a sinner’s heart to still be oriented toward Him.

Understanding Qur’an 49:9

First, regarding the noble verse: ‘If two groups of believers fight each other…’ (Quran 49:9)
Note here that before identifying which party is the aggressor, Allah says “from the believers” and not “two believing groups”, commanding reconciliation because mistakes may occur. As stated: ‘It is not for a believer to kill another believer except by mistake.’ (Qur’an 4:92) 

Through reconciliation, the aggressor party becomes known and must repent to remain within the circle of faith. If they persist in their aggression, then fighting them becomes obligatory – this being one of Allah’s prescribed limits (hudud), like the punishments for theft, slander, adultery, brigandage, and alcohol consumption. Whoever violates these divine limits must face the prescribed punishment, even if they possess true spiritual guardianship (wilayat al-haqiqah).

This is why Ammar (ra) fought against the Mother of the Believers, Aisha (ra), in the Battle of the Camel while still affirming her status.

The example of Aisha-may Allah be pleased with her.

The amr of Allah belonged with Ali. Ayesha (ra) opposed him and later repented. We also know this because she (Ayesha) — may Allah be pleased with her is in real spiritual guardianship (wilayat al-haqiqah).

Narrated Abu Maryam `Abdullah bin Ziyad Al-Aasadi:

“When Talha, AzZubair and `Aisha moved to Basra, `Ali sent `Ammar bin Yasir and Hasan bin `Ali who came to us at Kufa and ascended the pulpit. Al-Hasan bin `Ali was at the top of the pulpit and `Ammar was below Al-Hasan. We all gathered before him. I heard `Ammar saying, “`Aisha has moved to Al-Busra. By Allah! She is the wife of your Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter. But Allah has put you to test whether you obey Him (Allah) or her (`Aisha).”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7100)

So even though Aisha (ra) is acknowledged by Ammar bin Yasir (ra) to be the ‘wife of the Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter‘, he was not about to leave the commands of Allah (swt).

Whoever violates these divine limits must face the prescribed punishment, even if they possess true spiritual guardianship (wilayat al-haqiqah).

Allah makes known the status of the wives of the Blessed Prophet (saw) when he states:

“The Prophet has a stronger affinity to the believers than they do themselves. And his wives are their mothers.” (Qur’an 33:6)

Yet, Allah (swt) also informs us:

“O wives of the Prophet! If any of you were to commit a blatant misconduct, the punishment would be doubled for her. And that is easy for Allah.” (Qur’an 33:30)

We affirm the true guardianship of Aisha (ra) while disassociating from her wrong action in fighting against the Imam of the Muslims.

Summary of the battle of the camel and the actions of Aisha -May Allah be pleased with her.

Quranic Mandate: Qur’an 49:9 provides a clear command: if two groups of believers fight, Muslims must seek reconciliation. If one group is clearly the aggressor (baghat), the community must fight that oppressive group until it returns to the “command of Allah” (amr Allah).

Historical Application: In the conflict between Imam ʿAlī and the group led by ʿĀ’ishah (ra), Talḥah, and Al-Zubayr, we posit that the amr Allah (the legitimate command and authority) was with ʿAlī. Therefore, the group that took up arms against him was, in that specific instance, the oppressing party (al-bāghiyah).

Theological Principle: This is where we link it to the previous concept. Even though ʿĀ’ishah (ra) holds the rank of wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah (“the wife of your Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter”), this spiritual status does not grant immunity from the consequences of worldly actions that violate divine law and order.

Consequence: Therefore, it became obligatory to oppose her military action and fight to bring that group back to obedience, exactly as ʿAmmār ibn Yāsir (ra) stated. The punishment for this political transgression was the worldly consequence of battle.

Status Preserved: Following the event, ʿĀ’ishah (ra) repented and was deeply remorseful, which is a key point. Her repentance and her esteemed status indicate that her wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah was not nullified by this error in political judgment and action.

Analysis and Further Context:

The ḥadīth we cited is crucial. ʿAmmār (ra) perfectly encapsulates the dilemma and its solution:

  1. Acknowledgment of Status: He begins by unequivocally affirming ʿĀ’ishah’s (ra) unparalleled status and virtue. This establishes the principle of wilāyat al-ḥaqīqah.
  2. Primacy of Obedience to Allah: He immediately follows by stating that this status is not the ultimate factor in deciding political allegiance. The test from Allah is whether Muslims will obey Allah by obeying the legitimate authority He has placed, or obey a person, no matter how esteemed, in opposition to that authority.

The example of Fatima-May Allah be pleased with her.

Narrated `Aisha: Usama approached the Prophet (saw) on behalf of a woman (who had committed theft). The Prophet (saw) said, “The people before you were destroyed because they used to inflict legal punishments on the poor and forgive the rich. By Him in Whose Hand my soul is! If Fatima (the daughter of the Prophet (saw) did that (i.e. stole), I would cut off her hand.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6787)

Now, does one need to hate Fatima (ra) in order to administer the justice of Allah? How do people reason? Does anyone think that Adam (as) did not love both his sons? Even though one is a murderer?

The core question is about reconciling love/respect for individuals with the obligation to uphold Allah’s laws.

Does one need to hate Fatima (ra) to administer the justice of Allah?

Absolutely not. In fact, the opposite is true. One must love and respect her so much that they will uphold the command of Allah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (saw) even upon her.

The hadith we cited is one of the most powerful illustrations of the principle of blind justice in Islam. The Blessed Prophet’s (saw) statement is the ultimate expression of his commitment to divine justice.

  • Love for Allah and His Law Supersedes Personal Love: The Prophet’s (saw) love for his daughter was immense. But his love for Allah and His commandments was greater. By declaring he would punish her, he was teaching that no personal relationship, no matter how cherished, can stand between a Muslim and the fulfillment of Allah’s law.
  • Administering Justice is an Act of Worship: The judge who would carry out the ruling is not doing it out of personal hatred for the criminal. He is doing it as an act of obedience to Allah, fulfilling a trust (amanah) placed upon him. Carrying out a hadd punishment on a beloved individual would be one of the most difficult tests of faith, precisely because it requires separating personal feelings from divine obligation.
  • True Love is to Want What is Right for Someone: From a spiritual perspective, allowing a beloved person to escape punishment for a crime corrupts their soul and increases their burden of sin in the Hereafter. Enforcing the law, as difficult as it is, serves as a purification for the offender and a deterrent for society. In this sense, administering justice is a form of tough love that seeks the ultimate good of the individual and the community.

Therefore, the reasoning is: We love and honor Fatima (ra) because she is the daughter of the Prophet (saw). And because we love and honor him, we would uphold his command and his Sunnah without exception, even if it were to apply to her.

People who struggle with this concept often conflate two separate domains:

  1. The Legal Domain (Justice – Haqq Allah/ Haqq al-‘Ibad): This is the realm of objective, applied law. Here, relationships, status, and personal feelings are irrelevant. The law must be applied equally to the prince and the pauper.
  2. The Emotional/Spiritual Domain (Love/Hate): This is the realm of personal feeling and spiritual assessment (wilayah).

The error is to believe that these two domains must be connected—that administering a punishment requires personal hatred, or that loving someone requires being lenient with them regarding Allah’s laws.

The Islamic reasoning, as demonstrated by the prophets, is that these domains are separate and must be kept separate. A judge can deeply love his own son while convicting him of a crime. A parent can love a child while disciplining them. The action is condemned, but the person is still loved.

We judge by the apparent-the dhahir.

‘Abdullah bin ‘Utbah bin Mas’ud reported:

I heard ‘Umar bin Al- Khattab (ra) reported saying: “In the lifetime of Messenger of Allah (saw) some people were called to account through Revelation. Now Revelation has discontinued and we shall judge you by your apparent acts. Whoever displays to us good, we shall grant him peace and security, and treat him as a near one. We have nothing to do with his insight. Allah will call him to account for that. But whosoever shows evil to us, we shall not grant him security nor shall we believe him, even if he professed that his intention is good.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:395)

Synthesis with the Concept of Wilayat al-Haqiqah

This brings us full circle to the initial principle of wilayat al-haqiqah:

A person’s spiritual status (wilayat al-haqiqah) does not invalidate their worldly responsibilities or protect them from the consequences of their actions. Likewise, our love and respect for an individual (their spiritual status) does not invalidate the need for justice.

  • Fatima (ra) is revered and loved, but had she stolen, the law would apply.
  • The Sons of Ya’qub (as) were among the chosen family of prophets, but their crime against Yusuf (as) had consequences and they were rebuked in the Quran.
  • Cain was the son of a prophet, but he was punished for murder.

In conclusion: Islamic justice is not built on the emotion of hatred but on the principle of objective, divine command. True faith is demonstrated when one can uphold the law of Allah without being swayed by personal love or personal hatred. The greatest examples of this are the Prophets themselves, who administered justice and taught truth, all while maintaining love and compassion in their hearts for their people, even for those who wronged them.

This is why Imam Abu Sa’id al-Kudmi (May Allah have mercy on him) said: ‘We accept no falsehood from the blessed, nor reject any truth from the wretched.’

If you want to learn more about this all too important concept in Islam we recommend the following article:

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A difference with Deoband. Can Allah lie?

“The Truth is from your Lord.’ Then whoever wills, let him believe, and whoever wills, let him disbelieve.” (Qur’an 18:29)

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We are very disheartened to learn that this is a position held among those who hail from the Deobandi movement. To see them fall short on this particular point of theology is hurtful. This is an important point of theological difference as it can undermine our confidence in some of the most basic and fundamental aspects of our faith. 

It is clear though, that this matter has split the ranks of the Ahl Sunnah. This is the declaration of Shaykh, Saleh bin Siddina al-Maliki. He is himself a Sunni Muslim and a follower of the Maliki school of jurisprudence. The Shaykh has said that holding such a view or opinion is kufr (disbelief).

This false belief that is certainly so problematic for Muslims theologically that it is challenging to understand how anyone could entertain it, to begin with.

The theological musings of Darul Uloom Deoband have concerning Allah (swt) have to be among the most dangerous of theological speculations that have come from theology.

If we are to speak using emotive we would say that it is perhaps the absolutely most monstrous attributions to Allah (swt)! Not even the Christians ascribe the possibility of lying to Allah (swt)!

This, of course, is not speaking to the laity and the regular adherents of the Deobandi school of thought, the common person. To those valiant brothers in the Tabligh Jamaat that go out in the path of Allah (swt) and call people back to the Deen of Allah (swt). They are, for the most part, ignorant of this position. In fact, the Tablighi Jamaat are one of the greatest dawah force in the Muslim Ummah (imo).

Deobandi scholars in general are known among the Muslim scholars to be people of wara and taqwa and among those who cling to the Sunnah of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

That being said, we absolutely and utterly abhor the theological position that the Deobandi scholars have. Namely, that Allah (swt) can lie. (May our Rabb forgive us and bring us back to our senses.)

So first thing is first. Let us read and listen from their own sources what they say on the matter.

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/87742

Notice in the above article they say:

Falling into the topic which you have mentioned in your question, is extremely dangerous for the Iman of a believer

Prima Qur’an comment: Yes, it should cause anyone who has an ounce of love for Allah (swt) and understanding of sound doctrine should flee as far away from this speculation as they can!

The ulama of Deoband have explained this issue to the best of their knowledge according to the Quran and Sunnah. Therefore we need to look at this from an academic perspective rather than an emotional one.”

Prima Qur’an comment: They are correct in that the truth is truth regardless of how we feel about it. Islam is based upon proofs and evidences.

In the article in the link above after affirming that Allah doesn’t lie they then turnaround and affirm the following possibility:

“Thereafter they explained that Allah has the power to do whatever he wants. SO IF HE WANTED TO LIE, NOBODY CAN STOP HIM. No one can take that power away from him. There is a difference between “Allah does lie” and “ALLAH CAN LIE.”

Or the monstrous assertion that it is possible for Allah (swt) to create another like him!

Watch the following video:

@ 2:11 He says, “Let no man go away today and say Shaykh Mumtaz was saying Allah CAN lie, No!”

However, he turns around @ 1:38 and says, “But the OPTION Is there for Allah (swt), because he is Haqq he will never take that OPTION.”

Prima Qur’an comment: So he is saying that he CAN and worse he says that Allah (swt) could create another Allah (swt) but chooses not to! Yikes! (Oh Allah (swt) Rabb of Grace and Abundant Mercy, please forgive us and forgive our brothers and guide them to a course that is more just than this!) Amin!

The following verse of the Qur’an that absolutely grinds to powder and scatters into the four corners of the known existence such absurd theological speculation!

There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

So what does Shaykh Mumtaz have in mind should Allah (swt) wish to create another Allah (swt)? Some type of Binitarian belief? Or if He can create another like himself, what’s the limit? Three? Some type of Trinitarian belief?

It is our sincere hope that those from Deoband will refrain from this type of theological speculation. We hope that they recant from this position and make sincere repentance to Allah (swt). Death waits for no one.

By Allah (swt) our hearts have never felt more heavy and filled with sadness than to know that these people hold these positions!

It really does go to show you that Allah (swt) spoke the Haqq (unlike what scholars muse) when He said

“Is not Allah sufficient for His Servant? And yet, they threaten you with those they worship other than Him. And whoever Allah allows to stray-for him there is no guide. And whoever Allah guides-no one can misguide. Is not Allah Exalted in Might and Owner of Retribution?” (Qur’an 39:36-37)

Refutation of this problematic doctrine.

The first issue is part of a much larger discussion centered around the following: Allah (swt) can do anything versus Allah (swt) has power over all things. We would recommend you read that article first:

  1. Attributes ascribed to His Self (Sifāt Dhātiyyah).
  2. Attributes ascribed to His Actions (Sifāt Fi’liyyah).
  3. Attributes ascribed to both His Self and His Actions (Sifāt Dhātiyyah Fi’liyyah)

The attribute of The Liar could not be attributed to category 1 because Allah (swt) has described himself as Al Haqq. It is not possible to be The Truth and The Liar simultaneously. Second the attribute of The Liar implies something eternal and external with Allah (swt). If Allah (swt) is The Liar than in relation to what? Third if Allah (swt) is to be described by the attribute of The Liar this means there can be no cohesion or symmetry in the universe. The universe can never make sense nor can it be intelligible in any meaningful way.

The attribute of lying can not be in category 2 as a possible act that Allah (swt) can dispense if he so chooses because of what is discussed in the above article: Allah can do anything versus Allah has power over all things.

Humans may need to lie or deceive due to some need, want, desire, or fear. None of this is applicable to Allah (swt). Alas, Allah (swt) does not have redundant attributes.

Lying is never a praiseworthy trait or quality.

“They think to deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive it not.” (Qur’an 2:9)

“In their hearts is a disease, so Allah has increased their disease, and for them it is a painful punishment because they habitually used to lie.” (Quran 2:10)

“So He penalized them with hypocrisy in their hearts until the Day they will meet Him – because they failed Allah in what they promised Him and because they habitually used to lie.” (Qur’an 9:77)

“And who is more unjust than one who invents a lie about Allah or says, ‘It has been inspired to me,’ while nothing has been inspired to him, and one who says, ‘I will reveal something like what Allah revealed.’ And if you could but see when the wrongdoers are in the overwhelming pangs of death while the angels extend their hands, saying, ‘Discharge your souls! Today you will be awarded the punishment of [extreme] humiliation for what you used to say against Allah other than the truth and that you were, toward His verses, being arrogant.’” (Qur’an 6:93)

We sincerely implore the scholars of Deoband – to read these verses and immediately fall into sujud begging the Almighty Allah (swt) for forgiveness!

Dear brothers, this theological position is unbecoming of people who have produced some of the best scholars and students of knowledge in many fields of Islamic sciences!

Is this verse not befitting of them?

“Who is more unjust than one who events a lie about Allah (swt). One who says ‘it has been inspired by me’.” (Qur’an 6:93)

Dark whispering to the subconscious mind that found fertile ground within their minds and souls to plant the most insidious theological speculation.

Surely Allah (swt) is our salvation! May Allah (swt) protect us from the evil insinuations of the one who whispers.

Allah (swt) says:

“Moreover, they have no knowledge. They follow not except assumption, and indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all.” (Qur’an 53:28)

“And a believing man from the family of Pharaoh who concealed his faith said, ‘Do you kill a man merely because he says, “My Lord is Allah” while he has brought you clear proofs from your Lord? And if he should be lying, then upon him is the consequence of his lie; but if he should be truthful, there will strike you some of what he promises you. Indeed, Allah does not guide one who is a transgressor and a liar.’ ” (Qur’an 40:28)

“However, if they intend to deceive you – then sufficient for you is Allah. It is He who supported you with His help and with the believers. “(Qur’an 8:62)

“However, We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars.”(Qur’an 29:3)

“Only they forge the lie who do not believe in Allah’s communications, and these are the liars.” (Qur’an 16:105)

“So who is more unjust than he who invents a lie about Allah? Those will be presented before their Lord, and the witnesses will say, “These are the ones who lied against their Lord.” Unquestionably, the curse of Allah is upon the wrongdoers.” (Quran 11:18)

They have no means of knowing whether they are deceived. They can only trust that they are not being deceived, but they have no certainty. This destroys the very foundation of the religion of truth, the science of hadith, and everything else along with it. The big question for anyone who holds the position that Allah (swt) CAN lie is this:

If you believe that Allah (swt) CAN lie on what objective basis, can you determine if anything from Allah (swt) to be true?

We have seem them evade this question. There is no evasion on the last day.

They have certainly erred in their theological speculation about the divine by having the audacity to attribute to Allah (swt) the capacity and capability to lie!

May Allah (swt) protect our minds, our hearts from the whispers of devils, and from the approach of the hellfire and from theological speculation that brings us to the very depths of darkness where there is no light therein.

Their shameful musings about Allah (swt) opened the doors of sophistry, which in turn would call into question the probity of the sources of religious knowledge altogether.

In reality, this theological speculation is an absolute feast for atheists and Christians!

How can we trust anything from Allah (swt)

The truth about Allah (swt), his oneness?

The truth about Rasul Allah (saw) being a Messenger of Allah (swt). That he is the last and final messenger?

The truth about the Qur’an is that it is a revelation from Allah (swt), the last and final message?

Issues of certainty and morality. All of these things become issues of doubt and speculation due to the theological speculation of the scholars of Deoband.

Deobandis have effectively stripped every argument Muslims have against atheists, Christians, or anyone else. Why should an agnostic trade in his/her uncertainty for the uncertainty of Muslims?

They have also put themselves in a precarious situation. It would be very difficult for any other Muslim to take it seriously or even discuss any matter or point of jurisprudence, theology, etc. with a representative of Deoband because there is nothing to be discussed. They can’t even say with all sincerity that they are upon the Haqq.

These people, the Deobandi, believe that it is possible for Allah (swt) to both lie and to be truthful! Because if Allah (swt) is Haqq and Allah (swt) does not change, then why the theological speculation with regard to this?

To say that Allah (swt) has the potential to be both liar and truth sayer not only imputes lies to Allah azzawajala but it would entail a logical contradiction.

This reminds one of the atheists.

The atheist poses the following paradoxical question.

If Allah is Infinite and Unlimited in Power, can He create a rock he cannot lift?

Which is a non-question? It is like asking if Allah (swt) can make a squared circle. It is a no-thing.

Such a rock can’t exist, not because Allah (swt) is not All-Powerful but because He is!

Allah (swt) has Unlimited, Infinite Powers. This theoretical rock would also have to have MORE than infinite and unlimited powers so that Allah (swt) could not move it. There’s no such thing as beyond infinite and unlimited, so the question is flawed.

Infinity +1 There is no such thing, there is simply infinity.

We have engaged with this in the following entry:

Allah (swt) cannot act contrary to his being. Allah acts consistently within his own essence, his own being.

The reason people fall into this trap is because of very poor training in theology and/or philosophy. They do not have an excellent foundation concerning the divine being. After all don’t they accept power as a basis for Allah (swt) being God? That is the whole point. There are certain qualities that make Allah, God.

Allah cannot, for example Not-Be Allah. Allah (swt) cannot be a sinner or be unholy. Allah (swt) cannot commit shirk.

Allah (swt) cannot be contained by space/time. All these things are inherent to the divine logic that is Allah (swt).

Based on logic there are things that cannot exist if another thing exists.

As Allah (swt) is Infinite and Unlimited in Power, a thing he can not do cannot exist because it violates the very principle of being Infinite and Unlimited in Power.

“He knows what is before them and what will be after them, but they do not encompass in knowledge. And all faces will be humbled before the Ever-Living, The Self Existent. And he will have failed who carries injustice.” (Qur’an 20:110-111)

Allah (swt) is described as the Ever-Living, so it is IMPOSSIBLE for Allah (swt) to die. Allah (swt can’t will himself to die because it goes against what is intrinsic to the divine logic.

Their ridiculous claim is that you deny the power of Allah (swt). So ask them in turn this very simple question that will crush their falsehood.

If Allah (swt) can do anything, can Allah (swt) create a reality where he can’t do everything?

If the answer is no, they just admitted that Allah (swt) can’t do everything.

If they say yes, then it means they admit the possibility of a reality where Allah (swt) is not able to do all things.

Another point that crushes their speculation is the following:

The difference between us and those who hold the view that Allah (swt) CAN lie when it comes to the power of Allah (swt) is this:

They believe Allah (swt) is All-Powerful based upon speculation. Whereas the believers we believe Allah (swt) is All-Powerful based upon certainty.

“To Allah is your return, and He has power over all things.'” (Qur’an 11:4)

The basis for which those who say that Allah (swt) CAN lie is this verse. However, this verse is dependent upon Allah (swt) being Haqq and only Haqq.

The Deobandis have no objective basis on which to rest their argument. Because if both Truth and Lies can come from our Lord on what objective basis do they know that the verse in Qur’an 11:4 is true to begin with? Whereas the believers we believe that Allah (swt) is Al Haqq and thus we have certainty in what Allah (swt) reveals to us. It is not POSSIBLE for Allah (swt) to lie to us. 

So coming to the doctrine of the Deobandis let us see what Allah (swt) says about Truth.

The Truth is from your Lord.’ Then whoever wills, let him believe, and whoever wills, let him disbelieve.” (Qur’an 18:29)

Allah (swt) clearly says that Truth is from Him. Otherwise the phrase -“sadaqallahul azeem” -The Truth from Allah the Almighty, it would lose all meaning.

As truth is from Allah (swt) it is not even a POSSIBILITY for non-truth to come from Allah (swt).

Allah (swt) says:

“That is because Allah He is the Truth (Al Haqq) -the Only True God of all that exists, Who has no partners or rival, the ultimate reality, and what they (those who associate) invoke besides Him, it is Batil (falsehood) And verily, Allah He is the Highest, The Most Great.” (Qur’an 22:62)

Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Surely, falsehood is ever bound to vanish.” (Qur’an 17:81)

“No! We hurl the Truth against Falsehood, and it crushes it. Behold, falsehood does perish! Woe to you for the false things you ascribe.” (Qur’an 21:18)

Oh, Allah (swt) please guide these people. Guide them and us. How can they attribute to Allah (swt) a possible attribute that can vanish or be overcome by other attributes?

Subhan’Allah! What more evidence do the Deobandi need?

May Allah (swt) bring us from darkness into light and may Allah (swt) cause the Muslims to be on guard against this type of theological speculation.

Allah (swt) says that He is Al Haqq. Allah (swt) says that is The Truth. Allah (swt) clearly contrasts himself with batil (falsehood). Allah (swt) cannot contain both batil and haqq and have this as part of his being. Both can never be attributed to Allah (swt)

Allah (swt) says:

“Truly, it is not the eyes that grow blind, but it is the hearts which are in the breast that grow blind.” (Qur’an 22:46)

Allah (swt) says:

“So do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know it.” (Qur’an 2:42)

Mixing truth with falsehood is something that sinful man does. Are we going to really attribute the ability to mix truth with falsehood to the one who shaped and formed us in the womb, who provides for our every need, who is the very Lord of the Throne?!!

Moreover, again we have:

“So to Allah belong the best names, so invoke Him by them. And leave [the company of] those who practice deviation concerning His names. They will be recompensed for what they have been doing.” (Qur’an 7:180)

How could they even conceive as a possibility that one of the best attributes of Allah (swt) could be “The Untruthful” ?!?

This is what Allah (swt) says about those who believe that Allah (swt) has the potential of having sons.

“Where at the heavens might well-nearly be rent into fragments, and the earth be split asunder, and the mountains fall down in ruins!” (Qur’an 19:90)

This is for attributing to Allah (swt) the mere potentiality of having sons can you imagine what Allah (swt) has in store for those who would attribute the mere possibility and potentiality of being “The Lord of Untruthfulness“? May Allah (swt) forgive them and us. May Allah (swt) guide them and us.

Deoband certainly needs to reconsider this. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain by simply stating that this is no longer a theological position that they hold to. Their scholars believe that Allah (swt) CAN lie.

They give arguments and ammunition that will unfortunately tickle the imagination of the enemies of the faith.

As shown in the video above even one of their learned people believes that Allah (swt) CAN create another Allah (swt) !!

“Therefore be patient; surely the promise of Allah is true and let not those who have no certainty hold you in light estimation. (Qur’an 30:60)

Dear readers, fellow Muslim brothers and sisters reading this. We strongly advocate for unity and cooperation among all Muslims. We are very strongly against this theological position of Deoband.

We would implore, urge, beg them to reconsider it. If not for the good of this Muslim ummah, for the safety and passage of their own well-being into the next life. To refrain from stating with the tongue theological speculation that can not bring any good. If we human beings are not infallible and a scholar is not infallible, what harm would come to Deoband, and its reputation if they simply admitted to an error here? Everyone in the Muslim Ummah knows there are giants of knowledge among them.

We humbly thank Allah that he saved us from what others have been afflicated with.

“And say: …So, after the truth, what else can there be, save error?” (Qur’an 10:32)

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May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Are The Prophets Parents In Hell? – Dr Shaykh Abdullah al-Mu’ammari.

“Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do.” (Qur’an 2:141)

Once more our school demonstrates to the Ummah a very practical and pragmatic approach.

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (ra) who said:

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, “Part of the perfection of one’s Islam is his leaving that which does not concern him.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/nawawi40:12

We as Muslims should not concern ourselves with who is in heaven or in hell. We should instead concern ourselves about our own station with Allah. As Fathers , are we guiding our children? As parents are we guiding our children? As a spouse am I assisting my spouse to get there? That is our immediate concern.

Nor should we be among those who think they have the keys to heaven and hell able to distribute it to whomever we like!

A very eye opening video on the matter by Dr Shaykh Abdullah al-Mu’ammari. -May Allah continue to benefit us by him.

“And-they say: “How can we say that the people of Fitra can be damned, while the Prophet (saw) parents lived upon such fitra?”

Thus also, that means we must then affirm the damnation of the Prophets Parents and that they are in hellfire. And that saying such is not permissible etc.; First, this issue originally is not acceptable for one to enter upon it with emotions to be emotional about it.

Because in principle there is no harm if the father of a prophet is a disbeliever or the son of a prophet is a disbeliever. Or for that matter if the wife of a Prophet is a disbeliever. And all of these have their examples. As Allah mentioned that the son of Noah was a disbeliever.

As Allah mentions about Nuh (as) “And Noah called out to his Lord, Saying: My son is of my family and your promise is true and you are the most just of judges.” (Qur’an 11:45)

“And Allah replied: “Oh Noah, He is not of your family, he has done that which is no right.” (Qur’an 11:46)

So, this individual was a disbeliever as well. He was a disbeliever in the sense that he was disobedient to Allah. Thus, he was destroyed along with those destroyed.

And as Allah says: “And the waves came between them and he was among the drowned.” (Qur’an 11:43)

And as well the father of Ibrahim (as). He was also a disbeliever. And the verses mentioning such are many.

And Ibrahim (as) disassociated himself from his father.

“And the request of forgiveness of Ibrahim for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became apparent to Ibrahim that his father was an enemy to Allah, he disassociated himself from him. Indeed was Ibrahim compassionate and patient.” (Qur’an 9:114)

As well as the wives of Noah and Lot, the Wives of the two were disbelievers. As mentioned in Surah Al Tahrim. And in other chapters in regard to the wife of Lut (as).

Allah presents an example of those who disbelieved: the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot. They were under two of Our righteous servants but betrayed them, so they [i.e., those prophets] did not avail them from Allah at all, and it was said, “Enter the Fire with those who enter.” (Qur’an 66:10)

Therefore there is no problem. Religion is not an inheritance. There is no harm. But as regard the parents of the Prophet (saw) there is no obligation on us to say that they were disbelievers-Allah forbid!

Rather we withhold judgement on that (Wuqoof). As we say that the issue of aqeeda(creed) are founded upon certain decisive evidences and are no founded upon speculative evidences.

For we can not delve into the unseen/unknown about a person. Whether they are in heaven or in hell. Only this can be said with certain decisive evidence.

Thus, in regard to the parents of the Prophet (saw) we withhold judgement on their abodes and their issue is with Allah.

And we do not overwhelm ourselves with that-which our knowledge has not reached.

“Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do.” (Qur’an 2:141)

As for those narrations -they are inconsistent with each other and are ahad. And the scholars, some have faulted them in regards the salvation of his father or the salvation of any of his (saw) Parents.

Some of the narrations mention that the Prophet (saw) asked his Lord to resurrect his mother Aminah -Then Allah resurrected her and then she believed and died again.

These narrations are just to affirm her salvation. But these statements collide with the clear evidences on resurrection of the dead. This is far from that by a lot!

Also we find the narration of Muqabil that in it is that a man asked the Prophet (saw) about his Father who had died upon polytheism and the Prophet (saw) said he is in the hellfire.

And that man replied: “And your father?” To which the Prophet (saw) said: “If you pass by the grave of a disbeliever give him glad tidings of hellfire.” And in other narrations: “My father and yours are in hell.”

Sources: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:1573)

& (https://sunnah.com/muslim:203)

Regardless of what was said. In regard to this narration and the in authenticating it. We cannot confirm it. And for that reason as I said before, Some of the scholars have faulted it. In accepting its narration. Some say if it is affirmed it is ahad and speculative. So it is not permissible for one to rely upon it or fault those who have abandoned it.

And for that reason it is for us to withhold judgement (wuqoof) on this matter and to leave the matter to Allah (swt) The Exalted.

In deciding for specific individuals whether this person is in heaven or that person is in hell-The decision is with Allah!

And there are from the scholars those who originally kept silent on such issues and on speaking about Ahlul Fatrah-and says the issue needs more looking into.

Thus, our school removes from the Ummah one less barrier, one less issue to debate about. Suspend judgement and practice wuquoof.

You may also be interested in the following:

https://primaquran.com/2023/02/24/do-sunni-muslims-believe-animals-can-go-to-hell/

https://primaquran.com/2024/01/21/a-popular-misunderstanding-of-the-verse-in-the-quran-2426/

May Allah forgive the Ummah.

May Allah guide the Ummah.

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The Created Qur’an: Yasir Qadhi, Salafis and Atheist.

Ha-Mim By the Book that makes things clear,-We have made it a Qur’an in Arabic, that you may be able to understand and learn wisdom. And verily, it is in the Mother of the Book, in Our Presence, high in dignity, full of wisdom. Shall We then take away the Message from you and repel (you), for that you are a people transgressing beyond bounds? (Qur’an 43:15)

“Nay! it is a Glorious Qur’an, In a guarded tablet”  (Qur’an 85:21-22)

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This is an entry that discusses the problematic theological position held by those who call themselves ‘Salafi’ or ‘Athari. That is the belief that the Qur’an is the eternal uncreated word of Allah.

Now this is a belief of those who ascribe to Ahl Sunnah in general. However, there is an aberrant and bizarre perspective held by those who call themselves as ‘Salafi’ or ‘Athari’.

That is what this article will focus on.

I want to say from the outset that the Ibadi school does not make takfir of any Muslim who believes the Qur’an is created. This issue was not addressed by the Blessed Prophet (saw) nor by his companions. Takfir of other Muslims is not something that our school is known for.

This is a matter of dispute between the scholars. Each side will bring thier proofs and justifications for the position that they hold.

It is truly unfortunate that some of the Muslim intelligentsia and academics would feel so threatened by any discussion on this subject that it would incur a death penalty.

For example in one of the great works that are praised by the Sufi Muslims, Qadi Iyad we find

He said about someone who said that the Qur’an is created, “He is an unbeliever, so kill him.” He said in the version of Ibn Nafi’, “He should be flogged and painfully beaten and imprisoned until he repents.” In the version of Bishr ibn Bakr at-Tinnisi we find, “He is killed and his repentance is not accepted.”

Source: (Qadi ‘Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, Muhammed Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad), translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991; third reprint, paperback], p. 419)

You can also purchase it from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Ash-Shifa-Qadi-Iyad-Aisha-Bewley

In fact, Muhammed ibn Isma’il Al-Bukhari (of Sahih Bukhari oral collection fame) was persecuted by a group of those from the Hanbali school of jurisprudence for a remark he made.

“Al-Dhuhli was fierce (shadîd) in his adhesion to the Sunna. He confronted Muhammed ibn Isma‘il [al-Bukhari] because the latter had alluded, in his Khalq Af‘al al-‘Ibad, to the fact that the reader’s utterance of the Qur’an was created. Bukhari made it understood without explicitly saying it, but he certainly made it clear. On the other hand, Ahmad ibn Hanbal flatly refused to explore the question, as well as Abu Zur‘a and al-Dhuhli, or indulge in the terminology of dialectic theologians (al-mutakallimûn), and they did well – may Allah reward them excellently. Ibn Isma‘il had to travel from Naysabur undercover, and he was pained by what Muhammed ibn Yahya [al-Dhuhli] had done to him.”

Source: (Al-Dhahabi, Siyar (10:207)

Also:

Al-Hakim [narrated with his chains]: Muhammed ibn Yahya [al-Dhuhli] said: “This Bukhari has openly subscribed to the doctrine of ‘pronunciationists’ (al-lafziyya), and for me those are worse than the Jahmiyya.” . . . Ahmad ibn Salama visited Bukhari and told him: “O Abu ‘Abd Allah, this is a respected man [i.e. al-Dhuhli] in Khurasan, especially in this town [Naysabur], and he has thundered with this speech until none of us can say anything to him about it, so what do you think we should do?” Bukhari grasped his beard then he said: (I confide my cause unto Allah. Lo! Allah is Seer of His slaves.) (40:44) He continued: “O Allah! You know that I did not want for one moment to settle in Naysabur out of arrogance, nor in quest of leadership, but only because my soul would not let me return to my own country [Bukhara] because of my opponents; and now this man intends harm for me out of jealousy, only because of what Allah gave me and for no other reason.” Then he said to me: “O Ahmad, tomorrow I shall leave and you will be rid of his talk which I caused.” . . . Muhammed ibn Ya‘qub the hadith master said: “When al-Bukhari settled in Naysabur Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj took to visiting him frequently. When the affair of the pronunciation of Qur’an took place between al-Bukhari and [al-Dhuhli] and the latter roused people against him and forbade them to visit him, most people stopped visiting him, but not Muslim. Then al-Dhuhli said: ‘Anyone that subscribes to the pronunciation [being created], it is not permitted for them to attend our gathering.’ Whereupon Muslim placed a cloak on top of his turban, stood up in front of everyone, and sent back to al-Dhuhli what he had written from him carried by a camel-driver, for Muslim openly subscribed to the pronunciation and made no attempt to conceal it.” . . . Ahmad ibn Mansur al-Shirazi also narrated it from Muhammed ibn Ya‘qub, adding: “And Ahmad ibn Salama stood up and followed him.” (See Al-Dhahabi, Siyar (10:314-315). Cf. Bayhaqi’s al-Asma’ wa al-Sifat (al-Hashidi ed. 2:20-21 #591).

As Hamza Yusuf correctly remarked. if you follow this line of reasoning you eventually end up with

@ 1:32 Listen carefully people. Shaykh Hamza Yusus if a public orator and a supremely articulate man. Listen very carefully to the doctrine you are being asked to subscribe to.

@ 3:00 “It definitely doesn’t mean though the mushaf you have in your house. Because that would then…I mean some of the Christians argue that well the Qur’an is imbibliation. Like we believe in incarnation of the logos the Muslims believe in imbibliation of the logos. That God became book and so we don’t we don’t see that as valid. That view of it so.” -Hamza Yusuf.

Salafi Da’wah hooks you with the transcendence of Allah (swt). Most people who are introduced to Islam through the street preachers who hold Salafi doctrine are intrigued by concepts such as: Allah being one. What seems to look like a simplistic creed. That Allah has no parents or no children or no partners. Allah is neither black nor white. Allah is not male or female.

However, once you have taken your Shahadah or delcaration of faith how much longer until you are taught ‘Kitab Al Tawhid’ and here come the bizarre concepts. Allah has two right hands, and one of those right hands is a left hand, Allah occupies space, has a shin, a foot, chuckles at people’s despair, comes down the third part of the night, appears to the disbelievers in forms and shapes that they knew and then appears to the disbelievers in forms and shapes they do not know.

Said NO ONE EVER!

Yasir Qadhi, Salafis and Atheist.

Unfortunately Yasir Qadhi has come under fire from people who seemingly do not understand what he has been saying as of late.

Atheist and Agnostics have a different epistemology and world view when evaluating history then do believers. This also should not come as a shock or a surprise to anyone.

Agnostic/Skeptic: “We have not found any evidence of X.”

Believer: “They have yet to find any evidence of X.” The believer takes note that the Agnostic/Skeptic did not claim “We will never find.”

However, in one of his books he has given a very powerful argument to the atheist and agnostics to dismantle Salafi theology.

In reality I should not fault Yasir Qadhi for this as if it was some novel idea that he came up with. Rather, he is parroting the learned polemic that he would have picked up from his teachers.

Yasir Qadhi says:

These Attributes are understood literally (in the case of the Attributes of kalam, that Allah, Speaks, whenever He wishes, with a sound, in different languages, and this Speech is composed of words and letters and is not created), but the actuality and ‘how-ness’ of these Attributes are not delved into, and any negative similarity be-tween these Attributes and the attributes of the creation are negated (in the case of this Attribute, that the speech of the creation is created, but the Speech of Allah is not.)  Understanding these Attributes ‘literally’ does not mean understanding them in the manner that they are found in the creation, or comparing them with the attributes of the creation; rather, it means affirming the linguistic meaning of that Attribute in a manner that befits the Creator, and will never completely be understood by mankind.”    

Source: (An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 52)

 We are told that the ‘how-ness‘ is not delved into and yet this whole paragraph does exactly that!  When you negate comparison you are comparing and contrasting ‘how‘ something is unlike something else.

When speaking of prophet Ibrahim (a.s) and the story of the idols Shaykh Yasir Qadhi says:

“In these verses, Ibrahim showed his people that their idols were not worthy of worship, primarily because they could not speak. After they themselves acknowledged this, Ibrahim rebuked them, and asked them, “Have you no sense?!” meaning, “How can an object that cannot even speak be worthy of worship?”  Notice that Ibrahim was referring to a speech that could be heard, for Ibrahim’s people did not answer Ibrahim with the belief of the Ash’arees, “Our god speaks, but a speech that is not heard-an internal speech of the mind!”  for they understood what Ibrahim meant!! This is why they turned to themselves, and realized the foolishness of their actions, and could only reply with the feeble response that everyone knew that their idols could not speak!”  

Source: (An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 46)

Yasir Qadhi thinks that he has the goods on the Ash’ari Sunnis latter making a quote that in effect turns the Ash’ari Sunnis into idol worshipers.

 Yet, look at the quotation above where he says:

‘literally’ does not mean understanding them in the manner that they are found in the creation.”

Rather than help Islam, Yasir Qadhi and his Salafist-Athari creed and those who think like him have handed over to skeptics of their position a devastating argument.


So like Ibrahim (as) demands above the atheist has the right to demand from him speech from his Creator.

They have the right to demand a speech that could be heard”

A typical discussion between an Atheist-Agnostic/Skeptic and one who follows Salafist theology could go something like this:

Atheist/Agnostic/Skeptic: “Does your god, Allah speak? Let’s hear it then!”

Salafi: “Of course and here is the proof!” (pulls out Qur’an).

Atheist/Agnostic/Skeptic: “Ibrahim didn’t ask the idols for a book; he asked if they can speak!”

Salafi:

Yet Yasir Qadhi is not done with the Ash’ari.

Yasir Qadhi thinks he has the goods on the Ash’ari when he says,

“1) If the kalam of Allah is without sound, then what did Musa hear when Allah spoke to Him? If they respond that Allah created a sound, and caused Musa to hear that created sound, then this means that this created object stated,
“O Musa, verily, I am your Lord…Verily, I am Allah, there is no God save Me, so worship Me… [ Qur’an 20:12-14]


Therefore, if they state this, it implies that this created object claimed to be Allah, and asked Musa to worship it! However, if they stated that it was the actual kalam of Allah, then it must be asked, “How then did Musa hear it if you claim that Allah’s kalam is without sound? ” The scholars of the Ash’arees have not been able to provide a satisfactory response for this.”  

Source: (An introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 44)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

So Yasir Qadhi thinks that it was the object cried out ‘I am Allah, there is no God save Me, so worship Me’.   Yet, obviously, we know that Moses (as) did not perform any act of worship towards the direction of the voice. Or at least no act of worship is recorded.

Yasir Qadhi and those who agree with his position have to wonder the following:

What did Rasul Allah (saw) think when Angel Gabriel (as)
said. ” Indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I am your Lord, so worship Me.” (Qur’an 21:92)

Did the Blessed Messenger (saw) fall down and worship Gabriel? Obviously not!

Gabriel(as) was used as a medium in the same way the burning bush was.

As regards if Musa (as) heard audible sounds from the burning bush you ask yourself, did the companions hear audible sounds as the Qur’an was being revealed to the Blessed Messenger (saw)?

“And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.”  (Qur’an 4:164)

“When he saw a fire and said to his family, “Stay here; indeed, I have perceived a fire; perhaps I can bring you a torch or find at the fire some guidance.” And when he came to it, he was called, “O Moses, Indeed, I am your Lord, so remove your sandals. Indeed, you are in the sacred valley of Tuwa. And I have chosen you, so listen to what is revealed [to you] Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.”  (Quran 20:10-14)

“And when Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he perceived from the direction of the mount a fire. He said to his family, “Stay here; indeed, I have perceived a fire. Perhaps I will bring you from there [some] information or burning wood from the fire that you may warm yourselves.” But when he came to it, he was called from the right side of the valley in a blessed spot – from the tree, “O Moses, indeed I am Allah, Lord of the worlds.” (Qur’an 28:29-30)

“Has there reached you the story of Moses? When his Lord called to him in the sacred valley of Tuwa” (Qur’an 79:15-16)

Likewise, since the Qur’an acts as a guardian of the previous scriptures let us see what is claimed to be the Torah has to say as well.

“There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight–why the bush does not burn up.”When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!” And Moses said, “Here I am.””Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” (Exodus 3:2-5)

Allah (swt) created a sound and caused Moses (as) to hear that created sound. In fact, if you go on further the whole context shows how Allah (swt) is the creator of perception.  Moses (as) was made to perceive a burning fire, it did not indicate if anyone saw it or not.  He (as) was made to perceive his hand becoming white. He (as) was made to perceive a voice from a tree. He (as) was made to perceive his staff move like a snake.

“And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.” (Qur’an 42:51)

Unless our respected Yasir Qadhi wants to say that the  Qur’an contains a flat contradiction he will need to understand ‘Allah spoke to Moses with direct speech‘ in light of the above verses.

Coming back to Ibrahim:

First of all notice that there are different approaches that the Prophets of Allah take when dealing with different groups.

“Say: “Do you see what it is you invoke besides Allah? Show me what it is they have created on earth, or have they a share in the heavens bring me a book (bikitabin) before this, or any remnant (atharatin) of knowledge (you may have), if you are telling the truth!” (Qur’an 46:4)

Why do people worship at all?

What is the motivation for worship?

A) Either derive from benefit. These deities bring fortune, or blessings.

B) Either to avoid some harm. These deities will bring misfotune, or wrath.

Now comes the question: What is the authority for this worship!

Notice that in the Qur’an 46:4 The Blessed Prophet (saw) is asking if these people have some authority for doing what they do. Do they have a revelation or an athar (report, hadith from a previous athority).

Ibrahim (as) and his approach is very logical and methodical.

  1. There is no prophet or oracle from these people he needs to consult or contend with.
  2. There is no claim of sacred revelation that he needs to consult or contend with.

It is obvious that Ibrahim (as) is trying to trigger these people. He is getting them to reflect on the basis for dong what they do.

They said, “Have you done this to our gods, O Ibrahim?” He said, “Rather, this – the largest of them – did it, so ask them, if they should speak.” (Qur’an 21:62-63)

“Ibrahim asked, “Can they hear you when you call upon them? Or can they benefit or harm you?(Qur’an 26:72-73)

There is nothing in these text that even remotely suggest that it is the personal belief of Ibrahim (as) that in order for Allah to exist and be real, then He must communicate via audible sounds that can be perceived by the ear.

It would be great if we had the response of these idol worshippers.

Wait..we do!

In reply to Qur’an 26:72-73 we have:

“They replied, “No! But we found our forefathers doing the same.”
Ibrahim responded, “Have you considered what you have been worshipping, you
and your ancestors?” (Qur’an 26:74-76)

Now we get to the justification. They are simply following what the people who came before them did. At least here they are forthcoming.

In reply to (Qur’an 26:72-73) we have:

So they came back to their senses, saying, “You yourselves are truly the wrongdoers.
Then they regressed to their mind -set. “You already know that they cannot speak.” He said “Do you then worship besides Allah, what can neither benefit nor harm you? (Qur’an 21:64-66)

What can neither benefit nor harm you. This is proven by the previous episode of the idols being smashed to pieces. If they cannot benefit or protect themselves then what guarantee do you have that they can benefit or protect you.

People should really think carefully before they set up a whole generation of young people to be demolished in an age of Atheist, Agnostics and Skeptics.

“Behold, you received it on your tongues, and said out of your mouths things of which you had no knowledge; and you thought it to be a light matter, while it was most serious in the sight of Allah.” (Qur’an 24:15)

For those interested the book: “An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an” by Yasir Qadhi is still the best book in the English language on the topic. Nothing else comes close.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Seeing Allah Collection of Articles.

“The faculties of seeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp all–seeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)

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Dear Muslim Ummah.

This is a collection of articles on the issue of Seeing Allah (swt) in the hereafter. May Allah (swt) guide you to the path and way of the Muslims. May Allah (swt) guide you to the doctrine of transcendence. The way of the Qur’an and the Sunnah. Because this is the safest and secure road.

Among those who profess to be Sunni Muslims, you see such a division among them on this matter. One will claim that their lord has a shape and a form. The other side, realizing the problematic nature of such a position, will claim a sort of ‘beatific vision’. All sides come with their proofs and evidence.

Among them are those who say both believers and disbelievers will see Allah and others say seeing Allah is a reward exclusive to the believers.

For example: what form or shape did the disbelievers see Allah in?

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7439

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6573

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4581

If there are levels in paradise and all believers see Allah (which would be the ultimate reward), what is the point of the various levels of paradise? 

This section will go to top of Prima-Qur’an under Theology al-ʿaqīdah. Any article related to this matter will be placed here for ease of navigation.

Explanation of “Those who do good will have the finest reward and more.” (Qur’an 10:26)

The Proper Understanding of Musa (as) Request of Seeing Allah.

Looking at their Lord? Looking at the so called proof text.

Shaykh Juma Al Mazrui commentary on the hadith: Seeing the Lord As you see the Moon.

Response to Dr. Hamza Bakri on distance not being necessary to see Allah

On Seeing Allah: The following article breaks down a video from a brother upon the Ashʿarī theology giving our critical analysis from the Ibadi perspective.

Imam Ash Shafi’i’s unfortunate statement likening belief in Allah to that which the Atheist demand.

The following section deals with a fringe group who call themselves ‘Salafi;: They claim that they are upon the belief of the early generation of Muslims. In reality they are those who have very eccentric and bizarre views.

According to Sahih Bukhari what Form/Shape of Allah did the disbelievers see? What Every Christian Should Ask Every Muslim. Christians believe that God took upon himself a form or a shape. The Salafi sect also believes that Allah took upon a form or a shape.

Preacher of the Salafi Sect in Dubai talks about Allah being 60 cubits tall.

Strong hadith evidence that prove contrary to the preacher’s claims.

The debate the Salafi do not want you to see. The Salafi sect vs the Muslims.

Salafi Shaykh, Muqbil Al Wadi’i turns weakens a Sahih hadith. Thus strengthening the claim of the Muslims.

Salafi teacher, Dr. Muhammad Salah lies about Allah (swt). Explaining the request of Moses (a.s) to see Allah (swt).

Irrefutable proof that the Salafi God is one that can take human form.

May Allah guide the Ummah!

May Allah forgive the Ummah!

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What about all those hadith that promise a Muslim paradise based upon testimony alone?

And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent;’ NOR of those who die while they are ungrateful disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful torment” (Qur’an 4:17-18)

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What about all those hadiths that say if you do this or that you will be GUARANTEED PARADISE?

So for example there are a great many hadith that say that if a person does this act or says this statement they will be guaranteed paradise.

Examples:

It is narrated on the authority of ‘Uthman that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said. He who died knowing (fully well) that there is no god but Allah entered Paradise.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:26a)

Narrated Mu’adh bin Jabal :

The Messenger of Allah (saw) as saying: If anyone’s last words are “There is no god but Allah” he will enter Paradise.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/abudawud:3116)

Abu Huraira reported:

The Prophet, (saw) said, “Whoever recites ten times, ‘Say: He is Allah, the One,’ a palace will be built for him in Paradise. Whoever recites it twenty times, two palaces will be built for him. Whoever recites it three times, three palaces will be built for him.

Source: (al-Mu’jam al-Awsaṭ lil-Ṭabarānī 281) (https://www.abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2016/02/23/surah-al-ikhlaas-10-jannah/)

Abu Umamah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever recites the ‘verse of the Throne’ after every prescribed prayer, there will be nothing standing between him and entry into Paradise but his death.”

Source: (al-Mu’jam al-Awsaṭ lil-Ṭabarānī 8068)

(https://www.abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2012/08/27/ayat-al-kursi-after-salat/)

Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet (saw) said:

“Indeed, Allah has ninety-nine Names, whoever counts them shall enter Paradise.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3508)

The first response to the above hadith is that they have to be all taken into account with many other hadith. Because the singular narrations (ahad) put a few strokes on the canvas they do not paint the whole picture.

Hadith that do not guarantee Muslims paradise.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse.” They said, “O Allah’s Messenger (saw)! Who will refuse?” He said, “Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it).”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7280)

Hudhaifah narrated that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said:

“A backbiter will not enter Paradise.” Agreed upon.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bulugh/16/69)

It was narrated from Abu Darda’ that the Prophet (saw) said:

No one who is addicted to wine will enter Paradise.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3376)

Narrated Jubair bin Mut`im:

That he heard the Prophet (saw) saying, “The person who severs the bond of kinship will not enter Paradise.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5984)

How to reconcile these contradictory hadith? A simple solution and one that even Sunni schools of theology are forced to acknowledge.

All of those ahadith that guarantee paradise for a Muslim based upon this action or this statement have to be taken into context with all those hadith that says if a Muslim does this or that they will not enter paradise. Those hadith about the guarantee for paradise is for a Muslim who stays the course, who practices their Islam who is diligent in all matters of their faith.

Otherwise we run into the following logical problems. Examples:

Question: What happens if that person was to miss the verse of the throne recitation even after just one prayer?

Would they now not be guaranteed paradise?

The Prophet, (saw) said, “Whoever recites ten times, ‘Say: He is Allah, the One,’ a palace will be built for him in Paradise. Whoever recites it twenty times, two palaces will be built for him. Whoever recites it three times, three palaces will be built for him.

Question: What happens if I recite surah ikhlas ten times today 7/7/2024 but decide to stop praying, fasting paying zakat?

Am I guaranteed paradise then?

Also what happens if I recite surah ikhlas ten times and then I become a backbiter and I break the ties of kinship?

So it is not logical that one statement or one action is going to get a person into paradise. Especially when all the ahadith are taken as a whole.

What happens to the one leaves Islam completely?

Do their deeds, and statements of creed effect their salvation?

Do the murtad become the people of paradise?

There is no verse in the Qur’an that says Kafir will enter paradise! None!

There is no verse in the Qur’an that states you can sin and continue sinning without repentance without restitution and you will enter paradise! None.

“Allah accepts only the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and foolishness and repent SOON afterwards; it is THEY WHOM Allah will forgive and Allah is Ever All-Knower, All-Wise.

And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent;’ NOR of those who die while they are disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful torment” (Qur’an 4:17-18)

Truly, Allah loves THOSE who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves” (Qur’an 2:222)

“But whosoever repents AFTER his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allah), then verily, Allah will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 5:39)

“O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will expiate from you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise)” (Qur’an 66:8)

“Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief), their past will be forgiven” (Qur’an 8:38)

“Your Lord has written (prescribed) Mercy for Himself, so that if any of you does evil in ignorance, and thereafter repents and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allah), then surely, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” (Qur’an 6:54)

Allah wishes to accept your repentance, but those who follow their lusts, wish that you (believers) should deviate tremendously away (from the Right Path).”  (Qur’an 4:27)

“Say: Oh my slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily, Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” (Qur’an 39:53)

“And whoever does evil or wrongs himself but afterwards seeks Allah’s forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful” (Qur’an 4:110)

Islam is salvation through repentance. Islam is NOT salvation simply because I am Muslim.

All of those verses explicitly tell us as Muslims that we have an incredibly Merciful, Compassionate, Loving and Forgiving Creator. The verse even says that Allah wishes to accept your repentance. It doesn’t get more clear than this!

Yet, if we do not care about our own selves, and our own salvation, if we do not even have a modicum of decency and awareness to turn towards Allah (swt) and repent for our sins. Make restitution, reform our conduct, than we have absolutely no one to blame if we end up in hellfire forever.

The point we can make is that even if all such hadith are 100% correct, chains hold up etc. It shows the extent of Allah’s mercy. His readiness to accept us into paradise. 

Yet as mentioned they need to be interpreted in light of all such hadith that say the polar opposite. 

A logical problem if one takes those hadith in isolation.

Also, logic as mentioned I say Shahahada with sincerity guarantees me paradise but then I decide not to practice the deen? 

Surely they see it as problematic. 

If one takes those hadith that promise a person paradise in isolation without considering all the other hadith evidence that clearly state if one does such and such as well as the clear text of the Qur’an we will end up with serous logical contradictions.

Likewise, this is an issue of morals and ethics.

Has Islam really come to teach that a person can take the declaration of fast and afterwards not pray, not fast, not purify our wealth, and that one can lie, cheat, steal, commit fornication and adultery and will be among the people of paradise?

We are to do our level best to control our based desires, restrain our tongues and hands from harm. We are NOT to be the very devils Allah tells us to seek refuge from.

So it is very clear that Sunni Muslims have to agree with us on these points. They are crystal clear. That the kafir does not enter paradise.

We are upon the model of Adam (alayi salam) One who sinned and repented and was forgiven.

To sin and to never seek forgiveness. What is that except the model of Iblis.

Choose wisely dear truth seekers.

The only difference that now remains between us is as follows:

Our school states that no disbeliever enters into the paradise and no believer enters into the hellfire. Such a belief about the believer entering into hellfire has no basis in the primary source of Islam, the Qur’an.

So the differences are:

Do some believers go to hell for a while (as Sunni schools claim).

Or.

Do believers all go to paradise without any sojourn in hell (as the Ibadi school claims).

Does Allah replace some Jews and Christians (destined to paradise) and swap them for (Muslims destined to hell) as some Sunni claim?

Does Allah grant polytheist salvation (as the case of Ibrahim’s father) and place in his stead a goat or sheep?

https://primaquran.com/2023/02/24/do-sunni-muslims-believe-animals-can-go-to-hell/

Forget what this one claims or that one claims.

https://primaquran.com/2023/02/16/a-huge-misunderstanding-among-muslims/

What does Allah (swt) say in the Qur’an?

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

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I’ll go to hell for a little while and then enter heaven. Think again!

“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.” (Qur’an 2:80-81)

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This is by no means an exhaustive list. However, this should suffice. Yet there is much much more hadith evidence.

Abu Musa al-Ash’ari reported the Prophet as saying, “There are three who will not enter paradise: one who is addicted to wine, one who breaks ties of relationship, and one who believes in magic.” Ahmad transmitted it.

“But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.” (Qur’an 2:102)

Hudhaifah (ra) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said:

“A backbiter will not enter Paradise.” Agreed upon.

Narrated Abu Shuraih:

The Prophet (saw) said, “By Allah, he does not believe! By Allah, he does not believe! By Allah, he does not believe!” It was said, “Who is that, O Allah’s Messenger (saw)?” He said, “That person whose neighbor does not feel safe from his evil.”

Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “A person whose neighbors are not safe from his evil will not enter the Garden.”

“Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.” (Qur’an 4:36)

Jubair bin Mut’am (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “The one who severs the ties of kinship will not enter Paradise.” Agreed upon.

Jubayr ibn Mu’tim reported that he heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, “The one who severs ties of kinship will not enter the Garden.”

Jubair b. Mut’im reported on the authority of his father that Allah’s Messenger (saw) said:

The severer would not enter Paradise. Ibn Umar said that Sufyan (explained it as): One who severs the tie of kinship would not enter Paradise.

Narrated Jubair bin Mut`im:

That he heard the Prophet (saw) saying, “The person who severs the bond of kinship will not enter Paradise.”

“So would you perhaps, if you turned away, cause corruption on earth and sever your ties of relationship.” (Qur’an 47:22)

Abu Umamah (May Allah bepleased with him) reported:

Messenger of Allah (saw) said, “Allah decrees the (Hell) Fire and debars Jannah for the one who usurps the rights of a believer by taking a false oath.” One man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! Even if it should be for an insignificant thing?” He said, “Even if it be a stick of the Arak tree (i.e., the tree from which Miswak sticks are taken)”.

“They took their false oaths as a cover, so they averted people from the way of Allah , and for them is a humiliating punishment.” (Qur’an 58:16)

Narrated Ma’qil:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “If any ruler having the authority to rule Muslim subjects dies while he is deceiving them, Allah will forbid Paradise for him.”

Narrated Ma’qil:

I heard the Prophet (saw) saying, “Any man whom Allah has given the authority of ruling some people and he does not look after them in an honest manner, will never feel even the smell of Paradise.”

On the authority of Jundub ibn Abdullah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: There was a among those before you a man who had a wound. He was in [such] anguish that he took a knife and made with it a cut in his hand, and the blood did not cease to flow till he died. Allah the Almighty said: My servant has himself forestalled Me; I have forbidden him Paradise. It was related by al-Bukhari.

May Allah (swt) protect us and guide and keep us on a path that is straight. We seek the forgiveness of Allah (swt) and turn in repentance to Allah (swt).

I would encourage you to read the following:

“Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves.” (Qur’an 2:222)

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

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The hadith of the card. Get out of hell free card!

“And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah? Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?” Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally (khaliduna).”(Qur’an 2:80-81)

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For those of you familiar with the parker brothers board game, monopoly one of the cards one could draw is the ‘get out of jail free card’. Thus, if you landed on the spot that says, ‘go to jail’ you could play this card. The card name is a bit of a misnomer as you don’t go to jail to begin with. You bypass going completely.

Well, believe it or not because of these interpretations and influences upon our faith, there are Muslims who believe in the ‘hadith of the card’. The ‘get out of hell free card!

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr bin Al-‘As:

that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Indeed Allah will distinguish a man from my Ummah before all of creation on the Day of Judgement. Ninety-nine scrolls will be laid out for him, each scroll is as far as the eye can see, then He will say: ‘Do you deny any of this? Have those who recorded this wronged you?‘ He will say: ‘No, O Lord!’ He will say: Do you have an excuse?’ He will say: ‘No, O Lord!So He will say: ‘Rather you have a good deed with us, so you shall not be wronged today.” Then He will bring out a card (Bitaqah); on it will be: “I testify to La Ilaha Illallah, and I testify that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.” He will say: ‘Bring your scales.’ He will say: ‘O Lord! What good is this card next to these scrolls?’ He will say: ‘You shall not be wronged.’ He said: ‘The scrolls will be put on a pan (of the scale), and the card on (the other) pan: the scrolls will be light, and the card will be heavy, nothing is heavier than the Name of Allah.'”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2639)

This hadith is a mockery.

  1. This means that there are No Muslims who will go to hell at all (even briefly) as the Sunni believe. That is if Allah (swt) is fair and just, as every Muslim has said this statement!
  2. Are we going to invite the world to Islam and inform the world of the moral decline of society and then present to them a model of so called justice in which a person who claims to be a Muslim did rape, killed a person without right, molested their relatives, committed adultery and/or fornication and died without any repentance for these things?!
  3. All the horrific things that Zionist are currently doing to Palestinians that disgust each and everyone of us would be absolutely fine as long as they said: la ilaha illallah
  4. The above hadith is absolutely destroyed by the following verse of the Qur’an.

“And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty. Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliatedExcept for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.” (Qur’an 25:70)

Emaan or faith is uttered by the tongue , takes root in the heart and is affirmed by the limbs by either doing the actions one is required to do and/or restraining the limbs from doing what is prohibited.

If the Emaan by the tongue or heart is enough than why are there are so many verses and ahadith that exhort the believers to make tauba (repentance)?

This type of belief makes repentance ineffectual and renders it of no consequence. May Allah (swt) protect and guide the ummah!

Mu`adh bin Jabal (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, “He whose last words are: `La ilaha illallah’ (There is no true god except Allah) will enter Jannah.”

[Abu Dawud].

Source: (https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:917)

This can only mean He was living his life in accordance with this and righteousness, and finally he end his life like this. In this condition.

THE GET OUT OF HELL FREE CARD!

It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira:

We were sitting around the Messenger of Allah (saw). Abu Bakr and Umar were also there among the audience. In the meantime, the Messenger of Allah got up and left us. He delayed coming back to us, which caused anxiety that he might be attacked by some enemy when we were not with him; so, being alarmed, we got up. I was the first to be alarmed. I, therefore, went out to look for the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) and came to a garden belonging to the Banu an-Najjar. A section of the Ansar went round it looking for a gate but failed to find one. Seeing a rabi’ (i.e. streamlet) flowing into the garden from a well outside, I drew myself together, like a fox, and slinked into (the place) where Allah’s Messenger was. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Is it Abu Huraira? I (Abu Huraira) replied: Yes, Messenger of Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: What is the matter with you? You were among us but got up and went away and delayed for a time, so fearing that you might be attacked by some enemy when we were not with you, we became alarmed. I was the first to be alarmed. So when I came to this garden, I drew myself together as a fox does, and these people are following me. He addressed me as Abu Huraira and gave me his sandals and said: Take away these sandals of mine, and when you meet anyone outside this garden who testifies that there is no god but Allah, being assured of it in his heart, gladden him by announcing that he shall go to Paradise. Now the first one I met was Umar. He asked: What are these sandals, Abu Huraira? I replied: These are the sandals of the Messenger of Allah with which he has sent me to gladden anyone I meet who testifies that there is no god but Allah, being assured of it in his heart, with the announcement that he would go to Paradise. Thereupon ‘Umar struck me on the breast and I fell on my back. He then said: Go back, Abu Huraira, So I returned to the Messenger of Allah (saw), and was about to break into tears. ‘Umar followed me closely and there he was behind me. The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: What is the matter with you, Abu Huraira? I said: I happened to meet ‘Umar and conveyed to him the message with which you sent me. He struck me on my breast which made me fall down upon my back and ordered me to go back. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: What prompted you to do this, ‘Umar? He said: Messenger of Allah, my mother and father be sacrificed to thee, did you send Abu Huraira with your sandals to gladden anyone he met and who testified that there is no god but Allah, and being assured of it in his heart, with the tidings that he would go to Paradise? He said: Yes. Umar said: Please do it not, for I am afraid that people will trust in it alone; let them go on doing (good) deeds. The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: Well, let them.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:31)

Prima Qur’an comments:

In the above hadith we are told that Abu Huraira gets this information from the Blessed Prophet (saw) and he is met by Umar and than Umar is basically telling the Blessed Prophet (saw) please do not do it as the people will trust in it alone.

  1. Abu Huraira receives the information.
  2. Umar is the one who is startled by this information.
  3. The Prophet (saw) wants this information to be known.

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

“Once Mu`adh was along with Allah’s Messenger (saw) as a companion rider. Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “O Mu`adh bin Jabal.” Mu`adh replied, “Labbaik and Sa`daik. O Allah’s Messenger (saw)!” Again the Prophet (saw) said, “O Mu`adh!” Mu`adh said thrice, “Labbaik and Sa`daik, O Allah’s Messenger (saw)!” Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “There is none who testifies sincerely that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammed is his Apostle, except that Allah, will save him from the Hell-fire.” Mu`adh said, “O Allah’s Messenger (saw) ! Should I not inform the people about it so that they may have glad tidings?” He replied, “When the people hear about it, they will solely depend on it.” Then Mu`adh narrated the above-mentioned Hadith just before his death, being afraid of committing sin (by not telling the knowledge).

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:128)

Prima Qur’an comments:

  1. .In the above hadith Mu’adh ibn Jabal receives the information.
  2. The Blessed Prophet (saw) apparently does not want the information broadcasted.

Now we can reconcile the issue of who the Blessed Prophet (saw) told the information to. Because him telling Mu’adh ibn Jabal does not preclude him telling Abu Huraira. Likewise him telling Abu Huraira does not preclude him telling Mu’adh ibn Jabal.

What does raise an eye brow are the following points.

In the first narration it is Umar who makes the statement: Please do it not, for I am afraid that people will trust in it alone

Where as in the second narration it is the Blessed Prophet (saw) who makes the statement:

When the people hear about it, they will solely depend on it.”

In the first narration the Blessed Prophet (saw) seems to not mind if this information is distributed in fact he tells Abu Huraira to inform all those he meets along the way.

In the second narration the Blessed Prophet (saw) seems to not want the information disclosed.

The information that the sub narrator provides is also a bit concerning.

Then Mu`adh narrated the above-mentioned Hadith just before his death, being afraid of committing sin (by not telling the knowledge).

How does Mu ‘adh know better than the Prophet (saw)?!

How is Mu’adh portrayed as someone who is afraid of the sin of not disclosing knowledge but apparently the Prophet (saw) is fine with the sin of not disclosing knowledge?

May Allah (swt) protect us from perversion of the pure faith!

“O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.” (Qur’an 5:67)

“Those who hide the clear proofs and guidance that We have revealed—after We made it clear for humanity in the Book—will be condemned by Allah and ˹all˺ those who condemn.” (Qur’an 2:159)

“And do not conceal testimony, for whoever conceals it – his heart is indeed sinful, and Allah is Knowing of what you do.” (Qur’an 2:283)

Not to mention…

You can see just a handful of these hadith here:

There is the whole issue of rather or not there are scales to begin with!

I would encourage you to read the following:

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah!

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Those who do good will have the finest reward and more.

“Those who do good will have the finest reward and more. Neither gloom nor disgrace will cover their faces. It is they who will be the residents of Paradise. They will be there forever.” (Qur’an 10:26)

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Those who believe that we will see Allah (swt) in the afterlife believe that the above verse is a proof of it.

“Those who do good will have the finest reward and (waziyādatun) more. Neither gloom nor disgrace will cover their faces. It is they who will be the residents of Paradise. They will be there forever.” (Qur’an 10:26)

We can see this  زَادَ – yazīdu which basically means to ‘increase in something’. It is used throughout the Qur’an.

“That Allah may reward them the best of what they did and increase them (wayazīdahum) from His bounty. And Allah gives provision to whom He wills without account.” (Qur’an 24:38)

“And as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards and grant them extra (wayazīduhum) from His bounty.” (Qur’an 4:173)

“That He may give them in full their rewards and increase for them (wayazīdahum) of His bounty. Indeed, He is Forgiving and Appreciative.” (Qur’an 35:30)

” And He answers those who have believed and done righteous deeds and increases them (wayazīduhum)from His bounty.” (Qur’an 42:26)

“And those who are guided – He increases them (zādahum) in guidance and gives them their righteousness.” (Qur’an 47:17)

  1. Their understanding is simply based on an exotic interpretation and not one based upon the meaning in the Arabic language.
  2. We can see that every time they are increased from the genus or genre of what they are already being given. They are guided and guidance is increased. The finest reward and more of it. For example, in Arabic grammar it is fine to say I will give you 10,000 Euros and I will give you an additional 500 Euros, like this. Some people may scratch their heads wondering why there is a picture of an ice cream cone getting an additional scoop. The picture is to indicate what I mean in this point 2.
  3. The following verse makes it abundantly clear that we will not see him:

“The faculties of seeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp all–seeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)

This indicates the description of the divine changes. What was once not true of Allah (swt) is now true of Allah (swt).

” Neither drowsiness nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth.” (Qur’an 2:255)

So now it is possible that what is not currently true of Allah (swt) not being drowsy nor overtaken by sleep becomes possible.

If one can be gone then another attribute can be gone as well.

4. Not in the scope of this article but often those who believe that we will see Allah (swt) in the next life bring a number of hadith. This is an evidence for them. For us, as well as the majority of the Muslim Ummah, lone narrator reports (ahad) are not an evidence for us.

Zanni Hadith (الحديث الظني) refers to a narration that provides probable knowledge (ظن – Zann) rather than absolute certainty (يقين – Yaqeen)

  • Linguistically: Derived from “ظن” (Zann), meaning “assumption,” “probability,” or “conjecture.”
  • Technically: A Hadith that does not reach the level of definitive proof (Qat’i) but is still considered reliable enough for practical rulings.

For the Ibadi we do not build our belief upon the ahad. This is so even if we find the hadith to be sahih. That is because creedal matters are not based upon what is probable but what is certain.

Shaykh Massoud bin Mohammed Al Miqbali (h) explains this to us concerning a debate he had with one of the Salafi in Egypt. (A debate that they pulled offline).

The Shaykh also went on to explain that even in the case of an ayat of the Qur’an that is certain we may not build creedal matters upon it. That is because it could be from the mutashabih; and Allah (swt) has warned us:

“While other verses may have several possibilities. Those whose hearts are perverse, follow the unclear statements in pursuit of their own mischievous goals by interpreting them in a way that will suit their own purpose.” (Qur’an 3:7)

Thus the Qur’an itself can be certain and yet present verses that are multifaceted. How much more for the hadith?

Not to mention if they bring hadith we too can bring hadith.

Hadith like the following:

Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

The Prophet (saw) said, “Allah will say to the people of Paradise, “O the people of Paradise!” They will say, ‘Labbaik, O our Lord, and Sa`daik, and all the good is in Your Hands!’ Allah will say, “Are you satisfied?’ They will say, ‘Why shouldn’t we be satisfied, O our Lord as You have given us what You have not given to any of Your created beings?’ He will say, ‘Shall I not give you something better than that?’ They will say, ‘O our Lord! What else could be better than that?‘ He will say, ‘I bestow My Pleasure on you and will never be angry with you after that.’

Source: ( https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7518)

Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “Allah will say to the people of Paradise, ‘O the people of Paradise!’ They will say, ‘Labbaik, O our Lord, and Sa`daik!’ Allah will say, ‘Are you pleased?” They will say, ‘Why should we not be pleased since You have given us what You have not given to anyone of Your creation?’ Allah will say, ‘I will give you something better than that.’ They will reply, ‘O our Lord! And what is better than that?’ Allah will say, ‘I will bestow My pleasure and contentment upon you so that I will never be angry with you after for-ever.’ “

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6549)

“Those who do good will have the finest reward and (waziyādatun) more. Neither gloom nor disgrace will cover their faces. It is they who will be the residents of Paradise. They will be there forever.” (Qur’an 10:26)

Recall what is stated above in point 2 above. That is to say that the more’ can be from the same genre or genus. This is what we have from Ali Ibn Abi Talib:

17634- حدثنا به يحيى بن طلحة قال ، حدثنا فضيل بن عياض، عن منصور، عن الحكم، عن علي رضي الله عنه: (للذين أحسنوا الحسنى وزيادة) ، قال: ” الزيادة “، غرفة من لؤلؤة واحدةٍ لها أربعة أبواب.

“Narrated to us by Yahya ibn Talha, who said: Narrated to us Fudayl ibn ‘Iyad, from Mansur, from Al-Hakam, from Ali regarding the verse: ‘For those who do good is the best reward and an increase.’ He said: ‘The “increase” is a chamber made of a single pearl with four doors.'”

Sources that cite the above narration include: Tafsir al-Tabari, Tafsir Ibn Abi Hatim, Tafsir al-Baghawi, Tafsir Ibn Kathir.

For those who are interested you may wish to see the following articles:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.





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Irrefutable Proof that the Salafi God is one that can take human form.

“The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.” (Qur’an 5:75)

“There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

“There is no comparison to His absoluteness.” (Qur’an 112:4)

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I used to think that the Salafi/Athari were people who had subtlety in their doctrine. And people who at least claimed to take the apparent meaning of a text. They would claim that Allah (swt) is not like his creation and that they do not liken Allah (swt) to the creation.

I couldn’t have been more wrong!

I am now of the view that the God of the Salafis is one that has a form or a shape. This is from THEIR understanding of certain text.

It was narrated that Abu Umamah Al-Bahili said:

“The Messenger of Allah (saw) addressed us, and most of his speech had to do with telling us about Dajjal. He warned about him, and among the things he said was: ‘There will not be any tribulation on earth, since the time Allah created the offspring of Adam, that will be greater than the tribulation of Dajjal. Allah has not sent any Prophet but he warned his nation about Dajjal. I am the last of the Prophets, and you are the last of the nations. He will undoubtedly appear among you. If he appears while I am among you, I will contend with him on behalf of every Muslim, and if he appears while I am not among you, then each man must fend for himself and Allah will take care of every Muslim on my behalf. He will emerge from Al-Khallah, between Sham and Iraq, and will wreak havoc right and left. O slaves of Allah, remain steadfast. I will describe him to you in a manner in which none of the Prophets has described him before me. He will start by saying “I am a Prophet,” and there is no Prophet after me. Then a second time he will say: “I am your Lord.” But you will not see your Lord until you die. He is one-eyed, and your Lord is not one-eyed, and written between his eyes is Kafir. Every believer will read it, whether he is literate or illiterate.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:4077)

Notice that the text that is attributed to the Blessed Prophet (saw) does not even remotely begin to refute the idea that Allah could be in the form of a human being.

The text only gives the following assurances.

  1. Your Lord is not One-Eyed.
  2. You will not see your Lord until you die.

In other words it is not at the core of one’s innate fitra or it is not innate to the mind that Allah (swt) is not something that takes on forms and shapes!

To have such an assurance tied to this particular hadith, of which the multitude have not even heard of!?

The proof is irrefutable.

The Prophet (saw) said, “Allah did not send any prophet but that he warned his nation of the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed, The word ‘Kafir’ (unbeliever) is written between his two eyes.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7408)

Now those who follow the Neo-Salafi Athari school will use the above text to claim that Allah (swt) has two eyes. Although that is pure speculation. Saying that the Dajjal has eye one does not necessitate that Allah (swt) has two eyes. Or saying that Allah (swt) isn’t defective in one eye does not entail Allah (swt) has more than one eye. You could say that a spider has 8 eyes and that it does not have a defective eye and both statements could be true.

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However, when Allah (swt) opened my eyes to something deeper and more sinister. That the Neo-Salafi believe that the above text is trying to teach a theological point!

So what they are saying and think about this…what they are saying is that the way to DISTINGUISH Allah (swt) from the dajjal, is that the dajjal has ONE EYE and ALLAH DOES NOT HAVE ONE EYE.

What about the fact that the very hadith says, “THE WORD KAFIR IS WRITTEN BETWEEN HIS TWO EYES.”? Wouldn’t that be a big tale tell sign that THIS IS NOT Allah (swt)?

But even more bone chilling and down right frightening is that this flawed analogy leads one to think what seems to be THE ONLY thing that distinguishes Allah (swt) from the dajjal? Wouldn’t it be OBVIOUS that if a PERSON, ANY PERSON were to claim to Allah (swt) that we as Muslims would KNOW that this person is a charlatan, simply on the basis of:

  1. Allah (swt) cannot be and is not a man/human being.
  2. Allah (swt) cannot and does not assume form/shape.
  3. Allah (swt) cannot be and is not a person.

However, if one is to take the Neo-Salafi perspective apparently not! Think about this good people.

What if you were to find a person that does amazing feats of magic, or breaks the laws of physics or does the unexplained. Would YOUR criteria as a Muslim be, well the person has two eyes, 20/20 vision, so maybe, possibly it COULD be Allah?

REALLY?

If the Neo-Salafi do not understand this hadith as the Blessed Messenger (saw) simply informing that Allah (swt) is not unaware and has full grasp, and has no defects than brothers and sisters, dear readers…

WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM!

We have a big problem because nothing else is obvious; like the fact that the dajjal is:

human

has eyes.

has hands.

has feet.

has curly hair.

has a mouth.

most likely eats food (Qur’an 5:75) thus answers the call of nature.

has mass.

occupies space.

needs to have an army to effect change. Where as Allah (swt) gives the command ‘Kun faya kun’ (be and it is) ?wouldn’t ALL THESE BE A DEAD GIVE AWAY THAT THIS IS NOT ALLAH? According to the Neo-Salafi, NOPE!

But one way to POSSIBLY TELL THAT IT IS NOT ALLAH IS THIS: Is the person blind in one eye?

Imagine being brought up with this belief and you are out on police patrol one night in Saudi Arabia and you spot someone with one eye. “Hello, headquarters this is dispatch. Suspect has one defective eye. Possibly Dajjal, Definitely not Allah.”

So according to the Neo-Salafi the above hadith has come to teach us a theological point concerning Allah (swt). That being don’t be fooled because dajjal has one eye (one eye is defective) and your Lord does not have a defective eye.

This is what lead me to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that these people believe that Allah (swt) has a form, and can even come in the form of a human being!

Saying that the Lord is not one eyed is not an affirmation that he has two eyes!

“The Originator of the heavens and earth. How could He have children when He has no mate? He created all things and has knowledge of everything.” (Qur’an 6:101)

This is a negation that Allah (swt) could not have children as he has no companion. So does this entail the opposite? If Allah (swt) had a companion he could have children? How bizarre is this type of thinking! That Allah (swt) would need anything in order to accomplish what he wants is not the belief of the Muslims.

Subhan’Allah!

May Allah (swt) rescue the Muslims and save the Muslims from perversion in their faith!

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah!

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