Why do Ibadi make janaza prayers for major sinners-those who will go to hell forever?

“˹It does not matter˺ whether you ˹O Prophet˺ pray for them to be forgiven or not. Even if you pray for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will never forgive them. That is because they have lost faith in Allah and His Messenger. And Allah does not guide the rebellious people.” (Qur’an 9:80)

“And do not ever offer ˹funeral˺ prayers for any of their dead, nor stand by their grave ˹at burial˺, for they have lost faith in Allah and His Messenger and died rebellious.” (Qur’an 9: 84)

Some people ask the Muslims, the Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah the following:

“Why do you pray over those who are major sinners?” “Why do you ask mercy for those who will be in the hellfire forever?”

They ask this out of ignorance, though some of the detractors of truth ask this as a means to divert the people from the right way.

In the Ibadi school, the janaza prayer is for all muwahids, but we do not specify them (the major sinners) -with the du’a of mercy, rather it is made as a general du’a. “Oh Allah grant the believers mercy” for example.

Therefore if a Muslim died in a state of Islam, as we are commanded to die in such a state than insh’Allah this du’a lands on them. However, if a Muslim died in a state of kufr ni’ama, did not make sincere tawba (repentance) and reform his/her character than the du’a missed them. Allah (swt) knows best!

Because we can only judge by the apparent.

“Surely Allah knows the unseen of the heavens and earth. And Allah is All-Seeing of what you do.” (Qur’an 49:18)

This is an ascription to Allah (swt) alone that no human being can claim for themselves to know the full doings of any other individual.

Abdullah ibn ‘Utbah reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab (r.a) , said,

“Verily, people were judged by revelation in the time of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and the revelation has ceased. We only judge now what is manifested outwardly of your deeds. Whoever shows us good, we will trust him and bring him close. It is not for us to judge anything of his inner secrets. Allah will hold him accountable for his inner secrets. Whoever shows us evil, we will never trust him or believe him even if it is said his intentions are good.”

Source: (Sahih al-Bukhari 2641)

We stay in our lane and judge by what appeared to us and leave the final judgement to Allah (swt).

It is the right of every Muwahid that at least someone pray over them. This is a fard kiffaya a collective obligation. If someone does not do it than the whole of the ummah can be in sin.

Do note that in the death of Uthman Ibn Affan many companions of the Blessed Prophet (saw) did not perform the funeral prayers over him; and yet some did.

Next, even if we did pray for mercy for those who died in a state of kufr ni’ama (which we do not), there are two points to consider.

  1. On earth there are various levels and degrees that an individual can feel pain

Thus, the slightest mercy would be to not suffer as greatly, though hell indeed is a horrible ending for any. May Allah (swt) guide us and our affairs in this life so that we do not meet this horrible ending.

“The hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire..” (Qur’an 4:145)

2. Our du’a our supplication and the decree of Allah (swt) stands over all even the supplication of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

Let this sobering reminder put the fear of Allah (swt) into all who read it and ponder it.

“˹It does not matter˺ whether you ˹O Prophet˺ pray for them to be forgiven or not. Even if you pray for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will never forgive them. That is because they have lost faith in Allah and His Messenger. And Allah does not guide the rebellious people.” (Qur’an 9:80)

This is a very sobering verse. The number 70 is often used in sematic languages to indicate innumerable, infinite. Imagine the most beloved of Allah, the Blessed Messenger (saw) supplicating to Allah (swt) for the forgiveness of someone.

Yet, if that person had chosen a path that led to their doom, even the supplication of the Blessed Messenger, the Mercy to the Worlds is null and void!

https://primaquran.com/2019/11/28/shafaa-intercession-according-to-the-quran/

The above article shows our position in regards to the shafaa of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

“Verily, you (O Muhammed) guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are guided.” (Quran 28:56)

So the Blessed Prophet (saw). Can make all the du’a and supplication for any person he wishes. Yet, if that person goes against what Allah (swt) has decreed and has gone against the Sunnah of the Blessed Messenger (saw) and has not reformed themselves, even if they are a companion than they would meet their doom.

For example and something else that should be a huge eye opener for those who have eyes to see and hearts that are opened think of the follow supplication (du’a) that we say for our parents.

“And lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy and say, “My Lord, have mercy upon them as they brought me up [when I was] small.” (Qur’an 17:24)

Some may ask, ‘Why would Allah (swt) permit us to make this du’a if our parents could in the realm of possibilities meet doom?

Allah (swt) does not forbid you from making du’a for your parents, yet this does not guarantee them paradise.

Another example is this. Allah (swt) doesn’t stop the Blessed Messenger (saw) from warning the disbelievers, Allah (swt) simply reminds us that it is an exercise in futility.

“And it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them – they will not believe.” (Qur’an 36:10)

Making funeral prayers for those who died in a state of major sin (that is apparent).

But one thing that is apparent if someone died while in a state of kufr ni’ama (for example suicide bombing /correctly known as “homicide bombing”, especially where innocent children and civilians have died) there is no doubt that person died the death of a kafir.

In this regards our school is the school of no compromise and zero tolerance for those who unjustly take their own life and the lives of others.

Where as other Muslims may encourage such acts and/or have various views such as:

  1. They died martyrs. They are guaranteed heaven.
  2. They are at the very least brave people.
  3. They may go to hell for awhile, but will eventually go to heaven.

May we be guided to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

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More Arabic resources about the Ibadi school.

“O my Lord! advance me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)

May these resources aid you in your quest for the truth. With Allah (swt) is the victory!

https://alsaidia.com/node/745

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The Blessed Prophet Muhammed did not perform funeral prayers for Muslims who killed themselves.

“And do not pray over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient.” (Qur’an 9:84)

We also know that the Blessed Messenger (saw) is 100% against suicide/homicide bombings.

“Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.” (Qur’an 5:32)

The Prophet Muhammed (saw) did not perform funeral prayers over Muslims who killed themselves.

Imam Muslim reported from Jabir b Samura who said, “Someone who killed himself with a spear was brought to the Prophet (saw) but he did not pray over him.”

Source: (Narrated by Muslim in Al Sahih: Kitab al-Janaz [The book of funeral processions], chapter: “On Not Offering Prayer over Someone who Committed Suicide, 2:672 /978.)

Imam Al-Nas’ai , Abu Dawud and Ahmad b Hanbal cited the same report in the following words:

“Ibn Samura reported that someone killed himself with a spear and the Messenger of Allah said, “As for me, I shall not pray over him.”

Source: (Narrated by al-Nas’ai in al-Sunan: Kitab al-jana’iz. [The Book of Funeral Processions], chapter: ‘On Not Offering Prayers over someone who Committed Suicide’, 4:66 /1964, Abu Dawud in al-Sunan: Kitab al-jana’iz [The Book of Funeral Processions], chapter: ‘The Imam Should Not Offer Prayer over Someone who Committed Suicide[‘, 3:206/3185 and Ahmad b. Hanbal in Al Musnad, 5:92 /20891″)

This is very serious when you consider that the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) prayed for his enemies and people who hurt him and attacked him.

He even stood for a Non-Muslim Jewish funeral procession.

“A funeral procession passed in front of us and the Prophet (saw) stood up and we too stood up. We said, “O Allah’s Apostle (saw)! This is the funeral procession of a Jew. He (saw) said, “Whenever you see a funeral procession, you should stand up’.” Source: (Sahih Bukhari, Vol 2, Book 23)

He used to perform the funeral prayers over the hypocrites until the revelation came ordering him to abandon this practice.

“And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammed], over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient.” (Qur’an 9:84)

You also know that there is no shafaat for these people in the future because the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) did not even make the funeral prayer for such people!

“The Day they are dragged into the Fire on their faces it will be said, “Taste the touch of Saqar.” (Qur’an 54:48)

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Ibadi view on Dajjal, end times eschatology.

“This (Prophet) is a warner from [i.e., like] the former warners. The inevitable Day draws near.” (Qur’an 56:56-57)

“What are the unbelievers waiting for, other than the Hour to come upon them suddenly? Its Signs have already come. But what good will it be to remind them once the Hour has actually arrived?” (Qur’an 47:18)

As regards the school of the Muslims, Ahl Haqq Wa Istiqamah (The people of the Truth and Straightness), commonly known as the Ibadi school, we are Muslims who are focused on the NOW.

We are not bound by the past. Nor do we have to suffer while waiting for some salvinc figure (Mahdi/Jesus) etc…

The Ibadi school is here to remind the Muslims that Islam is not about the past or even the future. It is about NOW.

Right here, Right NOW! Where do I stand with Allah (swt) right NOW!

Not yesterday, not tomorrow, right now, because death can come at any time.

Tomorrow is too late to be prepared for death. Death may come before tomorrow.

So best to be prepared to meet death, NOW!

The following is from our beloved teacher and Shaykh, Shaykh Hafidh Hamed Al Sawafi (hafidullah)

  1. Muhammed (saw) is the last messenger and he is the first big sign. Upon his arrival the sands of the hour glass have started to pour rapidly.

2. We Muslims believe that there will be haqq and batil until the very end.

3. Very importantly, Qiyyamat can come anytime. Unexpectedly, therefore every Muslim
must be prepared to die, to die upon haqq. Have your affairs in order.

4. Any liar is the dajjal, and here have been many dajjals and the biggest dajjal is the one who lies about the deen.

5. Any Taqiyi (Allah fearing) Muslim is Mahdi. All Allah fearing Muslims collectively =Mahdi, and those who opposed the truth and love for lies to flourish collectively =dajjal.

6. There is no coming of Mahdi, or Jesus (a.s) , or and certainly no coming of Dajjal, in the way Sunni and Shia say. None of that at all. Jesus (a.s) climbing down a ladder in Syria, some epic battle in which Dajjal is killed and than Jesus (a.s) gets married, and all the pigs are killed, crosses are broken and Jews get slaughtered and than everything goes south once more. None of that.

#3 is the most important and crucial point of all the points.

This is the nasiha (advise) given to us by our respected teacher, Shaykh Hilal Al Wardi (hafidhullah) concerning the so called “Dajjal”

Related by our honourable brother, Assad Al Muharrami from His Eminence Shaykh Ahmed Al Khalili (hafidullah) as he states concerning
the Masih Dajjal case:

“Seeking help of Allah (swt ) from the fitnah of Masih Dajjal is authentic about the Blessed Prophet (saw) as it is also in the Musnad of Imam Al Rabe and the two Two Shaykhs and others. But this does not mean it is a specific individual who is described by attributes that make it special. As what is said about Dajjal cannot be depending upon on identifying his state and description; even if some have talked about Tawattur narrations that describe him.”

“That which is being pushed by tawatur is conditioned on it being free of disturbance and contradictions (of which there are many). But the authenticity of seeking Allah (swt) help from the dajjal includes all dajjals coming with a fitnah, as dajjal is description that isn’t limited to one individual. It is fitting description for all who deprive people and confuse them on matters in relation to their deen. And how many are the dajjals whom are cautioned against and seeking help from Allah (swt) is required from their evil in our age.” Source: (Burhan Al Haqq 168/8)

The great scholar of Ahl Sunnah have tried to save the concept of Mahdi arriving and now what are our brothers and sisters from Ahl Sunnah going to do after 59 years have passed and now Mahdi?

Ibadiya’s Perspective of the Christ’s descent, Anti-Christ, Mahdi, the Scale and Path

          Some legends and crises are depicted in a number of Hadiths by some Islamic schools of thought. These show that the Prophet knows the unknown and he tells about some events and phenomena that will take place right before the Hereafter. Some of these events are Christ’s descent and the Anti-Christ’s appearance.

          The Ibadiya’s perspective is that, these contradict the Qur’an. The Qur’an and Hadiths are complementary, not contradictory.

First: Such Hadiths contradict the Qur’an since they describe the Hereafter as if the Prophet knows exactly the period when the Day of Resurrection comes. The Qur’an tells us that this Day will come suddenly and neither the Prophet nor anyone else knows about when it comes. Allah says: “They ask you about the (final) Hour ‘When will be its appointed time?’ Say: ‘The knowledge thereof is with my Lord [Alone]. None but He can reveal when it will occur. Heavy were its burden through the heaven and earth. Only, all of a sudden will it come to you.’ They ask thee as if thou wert eager in search thereof say: Say: ‘The knowledge thereof with Allah [Alone], but most men know not.’ (7: 187)

Second: These Hadiths give exact numbers of the dates of these crises. For example, the Prophet (pbuh) when asked, “How much will the anti-Christ stay on earth?” He answered, “forty days; each day is like a year, each day is like a month and each day is like a week. The rest of it is like your days” Sahih Muslim. The Qur’an, however, does not present these numbers with such events. Allah, when promised victory to Muslims, does not specify a period of time for such victory to happen. Allah says: “It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth [Islam] to cause it to prevail over all religion, even though the pagans may detest (it)” (9: 33). The promise of victory in the Qur’an is not linked to a specific period. Allah says: “The Romans have been defeated. In a land close by: but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will be victorious. Within a few years, with Allah is the Command in the Past and in the Future: on that day, the believers will rejoice.” (30: 2-4)

Third: These Hadiths assume change of natural laws before the Hereafter. The Hadith mentioned above talks about altering the length of the day from 24 hours to a week or month or year. This length requires slowing down the rotation of earth which, in effect, would cause the earth to freeze, destabilize, and would cause scarcity of life on earth. The same goes for Hadiths by Abu Hurairah professing the sun to rise from the west as a sign of the Hereafter (Al- Boukhari # 4635). This entails that the earth will rotate in an opposite direction which also would cause slowing down the earth’s movement, then it might stop. It seems that those who innovated and created such stories did not know that the earth is round, and it rotates around itself. They thought that the sun rotates around the earth which led them to think that the sun could rise from the west. They did not realize that for the sun to rise from the west, it should stop rising from the east first. This is of course if we assumed that the atmosphere acts normally after all these tremendously notorious changes. Allah says: “(Such has been) the practice of Allah already in the past. No change wilt thou find in the practice of Allah.” (48: 23)

Fourth: These Hadiths are geographically restricted as they talk about places of the sons of Israel. They mention Damascus, Iraq, Jerusalem, Constantine and Ibn Sina’ as if events will only be restricted and connected to the geography of those who have changed the Bible and Torah.

Fifth: These Hadiths talk about primitive weapons such as swords and arrows. Such weapons relate to the second century of Hijra [the time when Hadiths were recorded]. They are so primitive compared to the most basic new weapons of this century. How about the coming centuries?! This contradicts the precision of the place, time and characteristics of legendries.

Sixth: These Hadiths profess the opening of Constantine when the anti-Christ appears, and the Christ descends. Ibn Al Hajaj specifies a chapter in his book, the title of which is “The Chapter of Constantine’s Opening, Appearance of anti-Christ and Descend of Christ”. Abu Hurairah reported that Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) said: “The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al- A‘maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Madinah (to counteract them)…And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out. ….then Jesus (pbuh), the son of Mary, would descend and would lead them in prayer. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ)”. In reality, Constantine was opened in 1453 by Muslims and nothing of this sort happened at that time.

Seventh: These Hadiths talk about legends as if they are signs of the Hereafter. Whosoever recites the Qur’an finds that the signs of the Hereafter have already taken place. Allah says: “Do they then only wait for the Hour that it should come on them of a sudden? But already come some tokens thereof, and when it comes to them, how shall they have their reminder?” (47: 18). The most important portents are sending the Prophets and Messengers. Allah says about Moses: “And [Jesus] shall be a sign for (the coming of) the Hour (of judgment): therefore, have no doubt about the (Hour). And follow ye Me” (43; 61). Allah also says about sending Muhammad as a Messenger:

“This is a Warner of the series of the Warners of old. The (hour) ever approaches draws nigh” (53: 56-57). He also says: “Or some created thing that is yet greater in your breasts. Then they will say: “Who shall bring us back [to life]?” Say: “He Who created you first!” Then they will shake their heads at you and say: “When will that be?” Say: “Maybe it will be quite soon” (17: 51).

The Prophet says: “I and the Last Hour have been sent like this and (he while saying it) joined the forefinger with the middle finger.” (Al- Boukhari# 5301)

Eight: These Hadiths describe the Hereafter in exact words and give a lot of numbers and details about that period. A person who lives until that time will not find it hard to realize its arrival. This of course contradicts “sudden” on which the Qur’an insists. Allah says: “Do they then wait for the Hour that it should come on them of a sudden?” (47: 18).

Ninth: The Ummah does not agree on the validity of these narrations. There is, thus, no doubt that this news has spread from the People of the Book.

          Sheikh Abdullah As Salmi (an Ibadi scholar) says: “Let it be known that the Prophet has no Prophet after him. What people narrate that Christ will descend has not been heard before.”

          Sheikh Nasser bin Abi Nabhan (an Ibadi scholar) says: “Some people narrate that Allah sends the Mahdi and Anti-Christ appears. They also believe that Christ descends. All of this is far a cry from the Truth. What we know is that Jesus is dead.”

          Abu Al Hassan asks about whosoever claim that there is a Day of Resurrection before the actual Hereafter in which those who were dead will be killed and those who were killed will die. He is answered, “lie!” Allah says: “Say: “It is Who Allah gives you life, then gives you death, then He will gather you together for the Day of Judgment about which there is no doubt” (45: 26). He also says: “And if ye die or are slain, lo, it is unto Allah that ye are brought together” (3: 158). Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) says: “Me and the Hour are sent together. It is about to be faster than me”. Therefore, it is not acceptable to have such claims about the Hereafter.

Jesus (pbuh) descends

Ibadhiya believe that Jesus (pbuh) has died just like any other human being. Their evidence for this belief is:

1.    “Behold! Allah said: “O [Jesus]! I will take you23 and rise you to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme, and I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject Faith, to the Day of Resurrection, then shall you return unto Me and I will judge between you in the matters wherein you dispute.” (3: 55). This proves that Jesus has died. It also proves that those who believed in what Jesus preached will gain victory over the Jews till the Day of Resurrection. This is what happened when Constantine accepted Christianity as a formal religion of the Roman Emperor. Then, Islam came and instilled Monotheism which Jesus and all the other Prophets have been sent with. Jesus, as mentioned in the Qur’an, proved his death “Never did I say to them aught except what You [Allah] did command me to say: “Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” And I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them, when you didst take me up24 you was the Watcher over them” (5: 117). Until today, the Jews are living in scattered areas.

2.    The idea of Jesus descending contradicts the concept of mortality stressed in the Quran. Allah says: “And we granted not to any man before you permanent life (here): if then you should die, would they live permanently?” (21: 43). It also contradicts the verse “Before you, also, the Messengers We sent were but men, to whom we granted inspiration: if you know this not, ask of those who possess the Message. Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, no were they immortals.” (21: 7-8) which proves the death of all the Prophets including Jesus (pbuh). Allah’s way on earth that humans die after a while. Jesus’ immortality refutes Allah’s way, and this can not be believable. Allah says: “(Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived Aforetime: no change will you find in the practice of Allah.” (48: 23). Noah, however, lived for such a long time as mentioned in the Qur’an.

3.    It contradicts the verse “Get you down, with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling – place and your means of livelihood- for a time. Allah said: “Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die, but from it shall you be taken out” (7: 24-25). This idea testifies that Jesus is living in Heaven above us!!

4.    The idea also contradicts the Qur’anic verses by saying that tax (Jizyah) is exempted from the people of the Book. In a narration, “Jesus (the son of Mary) will descend amongst you as a Just Ruler, he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no tax [Jizyah] and put money until no one accepts it” (Al- Boukhari #3448). As known, tax is an obligatory payment by the people of the Book as mentioned in the verse “Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth from among the People of the Book until they pay Jizyah with willing submission.” (9: 29)

          So, these narrations establish the idea that Jesus will descend with a new law that exempts Jizyah. As known, the Islamic law is eternal and will not be altered because Muhammad (pbuh) is the last Messenger. Allah says: “Mohammed (pbuh) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the Prophets. And Allah has full knowledge of all things.” (33: 40). These narrations, however, propose that Jesus is the seal of the Prophets since he will come at the end of the world.

Anti-Christ and the Awaited Mahdi

          Many Muslims believe that there is a man with an uncanny ability who will appear at the end of life. This man, the awaited Mahdi, spreads justice after injustice has pervasively spread. Because this belief contradicts the Qur’anic verses which promise Muslims victory if they follow Allah’s orders, Ibadiya do not believe in it. Moreover, such beliefs might discourage hard work and the concept of striving to succeed. The concept of Mahdi has Torah roots as it in reality promises the coming of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

          As for the Anti-Christ Which such hadiths ascribe to, does not appear in the Ibadi sect because miracles are attributed to Prophets and Messengers. Assigning these miracles to imposters negates the Messages of Prophets. That was exactly what happened with Jews who created and supported imposters to deny their Prophet’s warnings. Allah says: “Allah has heard the taunt of those who say: “Truly, Allah is indigent, and we are rich!” We shall certainly record their word and the act of their slaying the prophets in defiance of right” (3: 181). Ibadiya consider any person who fights Allah with bad deeds to be an imposter. Currently, the number of imposters has increased. Imam Abu Al Hassan Al Basiwi (ref. Aljami’. Ministry of Heritage and Culture, Oman) is asked: “What do you think about the imposter? Do they have a specific feature?” He says: “All wrong doers are imposters. I do not know the ‘particular’ imposter to whom you are referring.

Source: (http://bintibadh.blogspot.com/2020/04/ibadiya-history-methodology-principles.html?m=1)

May Allah (swt) bless our sister Bint Ibadh for this!

In summary these ideas about waiting for some future salvic figure to “save” the Ummah is a trap. It is a trap that will not bring us any good. One 12er Shi’i cleric has been led to tell the truth about their “Mahdi” whom is presumably hiding some where:

Here is an interesting extract:

“It is nothing but bigotry and small-mindedness, if not political, Indeed, in Morocco, when Al-Mahdi b.Toumart returned from his travels seeking knowledge in the East, meeting many great Ash’ari scholars like Al-Kiya Al-Harrasi, he proceeded to disseminate the school throughout Morocco, When he claimed to disseminate the school throughout Morocco. When he claimed to be the Mahdi, and established the Almohad state, he obliged the population to adhere to the school, and fought against the school of the early Muslims, dismissing the previous Almoravid state as “anthropomorphists”,  when they actually were upon the way of the early Muslims in their beliefs. He called his own dynasty  Muwahhidun (“Monotheist”). He also opposed the Maliki school and the scholars of Morocco and Andalusia who adhered to it. In this way, enmity developed between the two groups; and the inherent cause was political.”  

Source: -The Hadith Scholar, Professor ‘Abdullah Guenon Al-Hasani, President of the Morrocan League of Scholars and Member of the Islamic World League, Mecca’  taken from page 326 (Notions that Must Be Corrected by Shaykh Muhammad b ‘Alawi Al-Maliki Al Hasani)

So none of these Mahdi types ever brought anything good for this ummah. We have the Qur’an and the Sunnah and that is what we are to base our lives upon. No doubt many think tanks who wish the Muslim Ummah ill would prefer us to not have ambitions about setting up Islamic governance. They prefer us to keep our eyes to the sky seeking and waiting salvation, rather than having greater economic, military, political, cultural cooperation among our Ummah. Allah (swt) knows best!

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The Friday Sermon attended by Imam Malik ibn Anas. The Khatib, an Ibadi.

“Rise up and deliver the warning.” (Qur’an 74:2)

After the Muslims, the People of the Truth and Steadfastness had captured Mecca and Medina the following Khutbah was given.

Abu Hamza al-Mukhtar bin Awf al-Uzdy al-Umany. Also known as Abu Hamza al-Shari. One of the prominent Ibadhi’s of Basra. The sermon was delivered in Medina in the presence of Imam Malik ibn Anas:

I counsel you in fear of Allah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (Blessings and peace be upon him) and to observe the ties of blood, and magnify the truth of Allah which tyrants have diminished, and to diminish the falsehood they have magnified, to put to death the injustice they have brought to life, and to revivify laws they have let die; to obey Allah and to those who obey Him, disobey others in obedience to Him, for there is no obeying a creature which disobeys its Creator. We call you to the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet, and to equal sharing, and to justice for the subject peoples and to putting the fifth of the booty in the place Allah ordained for them. As for us, we have not taken arms lightly or frivolously, for play or amusement, or for a change of government on which we hope to immerse ourselves, or for the revenge that was taken from us; but we did it when we saw the earth had grown wicked, and proofs of tyranny had appeared, and religious propagandist increased, but men did as the pleased, and laws were neglected, and the just were put to death, and speakers of truth treated violently, and we heard a herald calling us to Truth and the straight Path, so we answered the summoner of Allah…And by His grace we became brethren.

“O people of Medina! Children of the Muhajirin and the Ansar! How sound are your roots, and how rotten are your branches! Your fathers were men of certainty and religious knowledge and you are a people of error and ignorance. For Allah opened the door of religion for you, and you (let it grow choked with rubbish); He locked the door of this world for you and you forced it open; hasty to temptation and laggards in the way of the Prophet; blind to the demonstration of Truth and deaf to knowledge; slaves of greed and allies of affliction! How excellent was the legacy your fathers left, had you preserved it, and how miserable will be that of your children if you hold on to it! Them He aided to the Truth you He deserts in error. Your ancestors were few and pious, and you are many and malicious. The preachers of the Qur’an cry out to you, and you are not chidden’ they warn you, and you do not ponder!

(Islam by John A. Williams (London & New York 1961 pp 215-217)

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Ibadi view of Yazid and the Ummayd dynasty.

And DO NOT OBEY the order of the transgressors, Who cause corruption in the land and do not amend their ways” (Qur’an 26:151-152)


Abu Hamza al-Mukhtar bin ‘Awf, One of the prominent Ibadhi’s of Basrah had this to say about the Umayyad rulers in general and Yazid in particular during a Friday sermon in Medina in the presence of Imam Malik ibn Anas:

“There came Yazid, a libertine in religion and unmanly in behavior, in whom was never perceived right guidance. He would eat forbidden food, and drink wine, and wear a robe worth a thousand dinars, through which you could see his flesh so that the veil of modesty was rent, an unpardonable disrobe. And Haraba the singing girl on his right, and Salama the singing girl on his left, both singing if you had taken drink away from him, he would rent his garments!

And he would turn to one of them and say, Shall I fly? Aye, he flew. To God’s damnation, and the burning Fire, and a painful torment!

He then turns to the Umayyads:

“The sons of Umayyads are a party of error, and their strength is the strength of tyrants. They take conjecture for their guide, and judge as they please, and put men to death in anger, and govern by mediation and take the law out of context and distribute the public money to those not entitled to them. For God has revealed those who are entitled, and they are eight classes of men, for He says:

“The freewill offerings are for the poor and the needy, those who work to collect them, those whose hearts are to be reconciled, and slaves and debtors, and those in the way of Allah and the travelers.”

They, the Umayyads make themselves the ninth category and take it all! Such are those who rule by what Allah has not sent down.” (The World of Islam John A Williams p 218)

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Why Jesus Is Not The Name of God.

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Isa, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So, believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.” (Qur’an 4:171)

The name of God and the name of Jesus are distinctly different.

“The victor I will make into a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will never leave it again. On him, I will inscribe the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, as well as my new name.” (Revelation 3:12)

Comment: From the above text it can be seen that ‘the name of my GodAND my new name‘ are distinctly different.

This becomes obvious from the fact that Jesus is a common name like John, James, or Peter. The above text of Revelation 3:12 was taken from a ‘Red Lettered‘ New Testament, where the words of Jesus are in red.


JESUS IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD…

Many times, our Christian brothers and sisters tell us that Jesus is the name of God. It is a name ‘above every name’. After all, how can a person have a personal relationship with God if you don’t know the name of God? I guess that sounds reasonable.

However, what most Christians are not aware of is the fact that the Hebrew language does not have a J. So, if the Jews spoke Hebrew, you know they didn’t pronounce Jesus with a ‘J‘.

The other point that is not realized so readily by our Christian sisters and brothers is that Jesus is really quiet an ordinary name. It has no power in and of itself. It was a very common name than and it’s still a common name.

In fact, seeing that Spanish is ranked as the number 3 language in the world Jesus pronounced Hey Zeus is a very common name among men in the Latin American community.

So, this is a rather uneventful name. It would be the equivalent of calling someone Chaz, or Lester or Herbert in English.

Feel free to go to google translate and listen to how the name ‘Jesus’ is pronounced.

Go to google translate and just listen to the name “Jesus” as it is pronounced in Spanish and Greek.

Go to google translate and just listen to the name “Jesus” as it is pronounced in Spanish and Greek.

Even more revealing is the fact that Jesus is a ‘bastardized’ (apologies for the terminology) Latin version of the name Yehoshua in Hebrew, or in other words Joshua.

The name Yeshua appears 29 times in the Tanach.

Yehoshua (Joshua) of Nun is called Yeshua in Nechemyah (Nehemiah) 8:17. Yeshua is the name of the Cohain HaGadol (the high priest) in the time of Zerubavel in Ezra 3:2. It is the name of a Levite under King Hizkiyah (Hezekiah) in 2 Chronicles 31:15. There is even a city called Yeshua in the negev of Yehudah in Nechemyah11:26.

Yeshua is also a shortened version of the word Yehoshua much like Bill is for William.

Before anyone gets angry at me using the word ‘bastardized‘ in relationship to Jesus (may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him) one must realize that the word ‘bastardized‘ means-to modify especially by introducing discordant or disparate elements.

Source:  http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-cobuild/bastardize

I mean, after all, you take a very common name Joshua which means -‘God is my salvation‘ and turn it into this Latin monstrosity that sounds allot like a former Greek god ‘Zeus‘.

Remember when the evangelist screams out in the name of ‘Jeeeee zuuus’. Or the Spanish speaker yells out on stage, “In the name of ‘Hey Zeus‘”.
Jesus /Zeus.

Hey Zeus. Hail Zeus.

HEY ZEUS! HAIL ZEUS!

In the Qur’an the son of Mary is called ‘Isa‘ or ‘Esau‘. 

Remember that Hebrew was a dead language for a long time. It was only when Eliezer Ben Yehuda used the Arabic language to help revive Hebrew that it becomes a vibrant language again. 

Source: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-eliezer-ben-yehuda-is-turning-in-his-grave-over-israels-humiliation-of-arabic-1.5472510

“One prominent pioneer was Eliezer Ben-Yehuda, the famed Jewish lexicographer widely hailed as the reviver of modern Hebrew, and whose revivalist legacy rested on a genuine recognition of the essential role of Arabic in the rebirth and resurrection of modern Hebrew.

It is quite possible that some Christians may find it strange to use the name ‘Esau‘ or ‘Isa‘ in place of ‘Jesus‘ as there is a passage in the Bible that says that ‘God hates Esau‘.

The oracle of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi. “I have loved you,” says the Lord. But you say, “How have you loved us?” “Is not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated.” (Malachi 1:1-3)

Imagine if in place of the word ‘Esau‘ you had the word ‘Joshua’. You would have a very interesting passage in the Bible of God saying, “but Jesus I have hated.”

Let’s continue with Eliezer Ben Yehuda.

Since Hebrew, Aramaic, and Arabic are all based upon the same Semitic vowel system, Eliezer used the Arabic language.

A language that was still living and had wide currency to decipher the pronunciation and understanding of the Hebrew language.


Jesus” was a common name back in the day. In Acts 13:6 there was a magician named Bar Jesus.

When they had travelled through the whole island as far as Paphos, they met a magician named Bar-Jesus who was a Jewish false prophet.”

In Colossians 4:11 there was a contemporary of Paul called Jesus-Justus

 “And Jesus, who is called Justus, who are of the circumcision; these alone are my co-workers for the kingdom of God, and they have been a comfort to me.”

Another interesting example of two people called “Jesus” side by side in the following text:

So, when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?” (Matthew 27:17).

So, the people had the choice to have Jesus ‘son of the father‘ or Jesus ‘called Messiah‘ killed.


So, the name “Jesus” was a common name like John, James or Mary.

This doesn’t sound like a ‘Name Above All Names’ to me. It sounds rather common and uneventful.

Do Christians Feel Power in The Name of Joshua?

I am curious as to whether I can call upon the name of Joshua and be saved? It is, however, the same as “Jesus”. Why should only the ‘bastardized‘ form of the Latin version of ‘Yehoshua‘ be the only name for salvation?

In other words, is Christian mission only done in English? No it is not!

So, if there are Jews wouldn’t they be screaming out ‘Yehoshua‘ in the congregation?

That being the case why couldn’t they scream out ‘Joshua‘ as it is the Anglicized form?

Joshua Christ?


Imagine using terms like Joshua Christ! Imagine Christian missionaries asking people to accept faith in Joshua? Imagine Benny Hinn jumping up and down and healing people in the name of Joshua! Or Imagine John Hagee being slain in the spirit of Joshua Christ!

What about the name Immanuel?

Immanuel is also a common Jewish name which means ‘God is with us‘.

Maher-shalal-hash-baz was called Immanuel in Isaiah 8:8

It shall pass into Judah and flood it all throughout up to the neck it shall reach; It shall spread its wings the full width of your land, Immanuel!

So, for Christians to say, “Hey look there is a prophecy that says he will be called Immanuel we can tell them that Maher-shalal-hash-baz was also called Immanuel.

In Matthew 1:23 we read: “Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which translated means, “God with us“.”

That this is an example of a failed prophecy plain pure and simple. It’s amazing the lengths that Christian apologists will go through to make this all add up.

In the end, I think that the position of Islam and the Qur’an is very clear. ‘Isa an Arabized form of the word ‘Esau’. He was born of a virgin named Mariam (Mary).


There is much to be said about the fact that Christians use a name like Jesus (a common name like John, James, or Mary) when describing the ineffable name of the creator.

Maybe there is a way out of this. Maybe after all The Creator is not a person much less person(s).

Since after all the word ‘person‘ and ‘personality‘ come from the Greek word ‘persona’ which means ‘a mask‘. Think about it! Tri-Theist Christians believe in in a God that is One Being that wears three mask.

In the end “Jesus” is just a common name, like Chuck, or Daryl or Lester.

I sincerely hope people would read the Qur’an and learn as much as you can about Islam. I hope that Allah Most High opens the breast and hearts of humanity and that Allah Most Merciful guides us all to what he loves.

 “And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.” (Qur’an 5:83)

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The Ibadi School, Group Dhikr, and Praise of the Blessed Prophet.

“Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.” (Qur’an 33:56)

“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21)

In the school of Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah, The People of Truth and Straightness you will find circles of learning where the righteous gather and recite poetry and other praise of the Blessed Prophet (saw) as well as doing collective dhikr (group remembrance and praise) of Allah (swt).

The difference between us and Sufi who do this are many. However, let us first start by what is common. What is common is that anyone and everyone who does so insh’Allah does so in remembrance and praise of Allah (swt) declaring his absolute majesty and declaring Him (swt) free from imperfections.

“O You who believe! Make much dhikr of Allah. And declare His innocence from imperfection
by morning and evening.” (Qur’an 33: 41)

On the authority of Abu Hurayra, the Messenger of Allah said,

“Verily Allah has supernumerary angels who rove about seeking out gatherings in which Allah’s name is being invoked: they sit with them and fold their wings round each other, filing that which is between them and between the lowest heaven. When [the people in the gathering] depart, [the angels] ascend and rise up to heaven. He (saw) said, “Then their Lord asks them [about it], even though He knows better than they do how His slaves will respond. One says: “They declare Your innocence from imperfection. They declare Your greatness. They praise You. And, they declare Your majesty.” He (Allah) says: “Have they ever seen Me?” They say: “No! By Allah! They have not seen You!” Then He says: “What if they saw Me?”
They say: “If they saw You, they would be more intense in [their] service to You, more intense in
praise of You, and more intense in glorification of You.” Then He says: “What do they ask of Me?”
One replies: “They ask of You Paradise.” He says: “And have they seen it?” One replies: “No!
By Allah, O Lord! They have not seen it!” He then says: “What if they had seen it?” They say: “If
they had seen it, they’d be more intense in eagerness for it, more intense in seeking it, and greater
in their desire for it.” He then says, “Then from what do they seek refuge?” They say: “From the
Fire.” He says: “And have they seen My fire?” They say: “No! By Allah, O Lord! They have not seen
it!” He then says: “And what if they had seen it?” They say: “If they saw it, they’d be most
intense in flight from it, and more vehement in fear of it.” Then He says: “Then I make you all witness
to that I have forgiven them.” Then an angel from the angels says: “But So-and-So is amongst
them, who is not from them. He only came for some need he had!” He (Allah) responds: “They are
those who sit, with whom the one who sits doesn’t suffer misfortune.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/qudsi40:14

If one was to ask the teachers of our ummah is it permissible to exercise the body? They would tell you that it is in fact encouraged.

If one was to ask the teachers of our ummah can we go jogging with friends? They would tell you that this is a good thing.

Seeing that ibadah (worship) is everything we do than this would become a form of collective ibadah.

However, when it comes to other collective acts of worship they suddenly frown upon it.

As regards remembering of Allah (swt) in a group this is of course done every time we do a congregational prayer and it is especially done on the Friday prayer.

As regards collective worship of Allah (swt) this has a precedent in the time of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

On the day of the Eid prayers, Muslims come together to recite the takbira. And the takbira is to say,
“Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar! La Ilaha Illa Allah! Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar! Wa lillahilHamd!”

This is one form of collective worship of Allah (swt).

During the Hajj there is the reciting the Talbiya. The talbiya, being the following: “Labbayk Allahumma Labbayk! Labbaka La Sharika laka Labbak! InnalHamda wan-Ni’mata laka wal-Mulk! La Sharika lak!”

This is said in a group and it is a form of collective worship of Allah (swt).

Also, as an urf (or custom) among the Muslims when Muslims orators or speakers try to pump up the crowd, or even when a new Muslim enters into the guidance of Islam, you will often hear someone say, “Takbir” to which a crowd responds collectively, ‘Allahu Akbar’ and this too is a form of collective praise and worship of Allah (swt). It is group dhikr.

On the authority of Abu Hurayra, the Messenger of Allah said,

 “No people gather together in one of the Houses of Allah, reciting the Book of Allah and studying it among themselves, except that sakeenah (tranquility) descends upon them, and mercy envelops them, and the angels surround them, and Allah mentions them amongst those who are with Him.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/nawawi40:36


So just as praying in the masjid has more rewards than praying in your home, so does praying in a group in your home have more rewards than praying as an individual.

Praying in a group in the masjid at the time the prayer is prescribed has more rewards. Praying in Mecca or Madinah has more spiritual weight than doing so outside.

So there is nothing wrong in our school in reciting poetry and showing abundance of love for the Blessed Prophet (saw).

We simply avoid access. Do not ascribe to the Prophet (saw) qualities which are only befitting Allah (swt). This is something that is impermissible.

Those who which to participate in group nasheed and group dhikr may do so. Where it becomes problematic is if it coupled with elements that are in clear violation of the sacred law. Where it becomes problematic is when such voluntary acts of group worship are made wajib (obligatory) upon others.

The school of Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah does not have formal bayah (oath of allegiance) given to Shaykhs. Your oath of allegiance as a Muslim is slavehood to Allah (swt) and loyalty to the teachings of our Blessed Prophet (saw). We do not say of our teachers and shaykhs other than they are men whom Allah (swt) blessed with knowledge and piety. None of them control the universe, or the fates of others.

The idea of guilt tripping other Muslims if they do not attend such gatherings or making them feel less in their worship is outright impermissible.

Any group of Muslim brothers, or sisters who may wish to find a quite place along the beach with the ocean waves crashing down near by, or wish to find a quite place in the forest, to do dhikr alone or collectively may do so. Provided that no one is violating the sacred shari’ah. These gatherings do not need to take place like clock work every Thursday/Tuesday at this time on this day. No. They can be spontaneous.

Allah (swt) has made wajib upon us what he has made wajib upon us.

Often there are some groups with good intentions who make such gatherings wajib upon people, at certain timings and certain days, and the guilt trip individuals who do not do so even to the point of making threats or shunning such individuals. All of that is most unfortunate. You push people away from Allah (swt) when initially you invited them to Allah (swt).

The best form of worship is that which is done in private with out a single soul knowing. The only ones aware are yourself and Allah (swt).

“Call upon your Lord in humility and privately; indeed, He does not like transgressors.” (Qur’an 7:55)

“If you disclose your charitable expenditures, they are good; but if you conceal them and give them to the poor, it is better for you, and He will remove from you some of your misdeeds [thereby]. And Allah, with what you do, is [fully] acquainted.” (Qur’an 2:271) 

Most of all let every deed, act of worship rather done in private, in a group, secretly or openly be done solely and purely for the sake of Allah (swt).

Narrated Jundub:

The Prophet (saw) said, “He who lets the people hear of his good deeds intentionally, to win their praise, Allah will let the people know his real intention (on the Day of Resurrection), and he who does good things in public to show off and win the praise of the people, Allah will disclose his real intention (and humiliate him).

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6499)

Ultimately Allah (swt) has made wajib what he has made wajib. This is what every Muslim is duty bound to follow. Other than this are voluntary acts of worship. One may prefer late night vigils of solitude and others a mellifluous gathering of voices and hearts crying out in unison for Allah (swt).

What ever the act of worship, may Allah (swt) make all of it for the sake of Allah (swt) alone, sincere, pure, blessed and a means to draw closer to Allah (swt) and forsaking the pitfalls of this world. May Allah (swt) help us to rectify ourselves and may Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

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The Blessed Virgin Birth of Jesus.

“And mention when the angels said, “O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary – distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near to Allah. He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous. She said, “My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?” The angel said, “Such is Allah; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is. (Qur’an 3:45-47)

THIS IS A SERIES OF ARTICLES ON THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY AND HER BLESSED SON, THE NOBLE MESSENGER OF ALLAH, ISA IBN MARYAM (JESUS THE SON OF MARY)

A Jewish Argument against the Qur’an.

Putting to bed the ‘big verse’ against the Virgin Birth

The evidence plucked to reject the virgin birth of Jesus.

The Case for the Virgin birth from the Qur’an.

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Hadith: Do not revile/curse my companions

“Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac – one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”

“That was a nation which has passed on. It will have what it earned, and you will have what you have earned. And you will not be asked about what they used to do.” (Qur’an 2:133-134)

Or do you say that Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants were Jews or Christians? Say, “Are you more knowing or is Allah ?” And who is more unjust than one who conceals a testimony he has from Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do That is a nation that has passed on. It will have what it earned, and you will have what you have earned. And you will not be asked about what they used to do. Those are people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do(Qur’an 2:140-141)

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (saw) as saying:

Do not revile my Companions, do not revile my Companions. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if one amongst you would have spent as much gold as Uhud it would not amount to as much as one much on behalf of one of them or half of it.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2540)

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet (saw) said, “Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount, and after I recognize them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, ‘My companions!’ Then it will be said, ‘You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6582)

It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (saw) came to a graveyard and greeted (its occupants) with Salam, then he said:

“Peace be upon you, abode of believing people. We will join you soon, if Allah wills.” Then he said: “Would that we could see our brothers.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, are we not your brothers?” He said: “You are my Companions. My brothers are those who will come after me. I will reach the Cistern ahead of you.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, how will you recognize those of your nation who have not yet come?” He said: “If a man has a horse with a blaze on its forehead and white feet, don’t you think that he will recognize it among horses that are deep black in color?” They said: “Of course.” He said: “On the Day of Resurrection they will come with radiant faces, hands, and feet, because of the traces of ablution.” He said: “I will reach the Cistern ahead of you.” Then he said: “Men will be driven away from my Cistern just as stray camels are driven away. And I will call to them: ‘Come here!’ But it will be said: ‘They changed after you were gone, and they kept turning on their heels.’ So I will say: “Be off with you!

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:4306)

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:

We were in a Ghazwa and a man from the emigrants kicked an Ansari (on the buttocks with his foot). The Ansari man said, “O the Ansari! (Help!)” The emigrant said, “O the emigrants! (Help).” When Allah’s Messenger (saw) heard that, he said, “What is that?” They said, “A man from the emigrants kicked a man from the Ansar (on the buttocks his foot). On that the Ansar said, ‘O the Ansar!’ and the emigrant said, ‘O the emigrants!” The Prophet (saw) said’ “Leave it (that call) for it Is a detestable thing.” The number of Ansar was larger (than that of the emigrants) at the time when the Prophet (saw) came to Medina, but later the number of emigrants increased. `Abdullah bin Ubai said, “Have they, (the emigrants) done so? By Allah, if we return to Medina, surely, the more honorable will expel therefrom the meaner,” `Umar bin Al-Khattab said, “O Allah’s Messenger (saw)! Let me chop off the head of this hypocrite!” The Prophet said, “Leave him, lest the people say Muhammad kills his companions:”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4907)

Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The Prophet (saw) sent (an army unit under the command of) Khalid bin Al-Walid to fight against the tribe of Bani Jadhima and those people could not express themselves by saying, “Aslamna,” but they said, “Saba’na! Saba’na! ” Khalid kept on killing some of them and taking some others as captives, and he gave a captive to everyone of us and ordered everyone of us to kill his captive. I said, “By Allah, I shall not kill my captive and none of my companions shall kill his captive!” Then we mentioned that to the Prophet (saw) and he said, “O Allah! I am free from what Khalid bin Al-Walid has done,” and repeated it twice.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7189)

It has been said about the school of Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The People of the Truth and Straightness) that we revile, abuse and curse the companions! That we are Khawarij that curse, revile and abuse the companions.

Nothing can be further from the truth!

When you hear people say such things about us ask them to bring their evidence!

Please listen to what our teacher and Shaykh Dr. Khalid bin Mohammed Al Abdali (Hafidullah) shares with us what should be the stance of the Muslims, the People of the Truth and Steadfastness, in regards to the companions and those who have gone before us.

One group says about some of the companions of the Blessed Messenger (saw) that they “Are the dogs of hellfire!” Another group says, “These are sinners and have disobeyed the order of Allah.”

In our books, the Ibadi we haven’t named someone as a dog from the dogs of Jahannam. Al hamdulllah! That Allah (swt) has purified our tongues from it. We do not say the sahabah/companions were all angels and saints. We tell the history.

This should be very clear. If our books say that such and such a companion is a sinner or sinned that is not reviling that is simply reported the news. If our books say such and such a companion went against the amr, the command of Allah (swt) that is not reviling anyone. That is simply reporting the news.

You are welcome to dispute with us about rather or not such and such a companion sinned on this or that occasion but stop saying that the Ibadi revile, curse or abuse the companions.

It was our teachers who approached Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz who was a righteous Caliph and a just Imam. (May Allah be pleased with him.) It is they who went to him and pleased to stop the cursing and reviling of the companions at the minbar. It is not the place for it.

Sunni and Shi’i sources report that Ali ibn Abu Talib led the prayers either while intoxicated or in a major state of ritual impurtity.

So are they reviling, rebuking and cursing Ali for simply reporting the facts?

Or what about the reviling, and rebuking Ahl Sunnah has done of the noble companion Hurqus Ibn Zuhair (r.a) ?

Or what about the tremendous, and horrible statement put into the mouth of the Blessed Messenger (saw), calling some of his companions “the dogs of hellfire” , Many are those from among the Shi’i and Ah Sunnah quote this with absolutely no shame.

What about the Salafi preacher who really did curse one of the companions, Amr b. al-Hamiq al-Khuza’i for stabbing Uthman in the chest 9 times!

What about Ibn Taymiyyah’s damning admission that the majority of the companions hated Ali?



We, Ibadi do not hate Ali. There are three views in regards to him in the school.

So I would implore those in dawah, and I would implore the teachers and learned people from among the Sunni and Shi’i to be educated on this matter. You may not agree with us and you are free to differ with us but you do not have a license to lie upon us, and misrepresent us.

In fact on matters of lying and not being truthful one should have awareness and fear of Allah (swt) who sees and knows all that we do.

May Allah (swt) guide us all to what is beloved to him.

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