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Who Knew the Dream Better? Ibn al-Arabi vs. Prophet Ibrahim (as) – and Why Mustafa Akyol Gets It Wrong.

“And when Ibrahim was tried by his Lord with certain words, which he fulfilled.” (Qur’an 2:124)

“Then when he reached with him the (age of) working he said, “Oh my son! Indeed, I have seen in the dream that I am sacrificing you, so look what you see.” He said, “Oh my father! Do what you are commanded. You will find me, if wills Allah, of the patient ones.” (Qur’an 37:102)

Then when they submitted and Ibrahim laid him on the side of his forehead
for sacrifice. We called out to him: “Oh Ibrahim! You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed this is how We reward the good-doers. For this was obviously a clear trial.(Qur’an 37:103-106)

“And we ransomed him with a tremendous sacrifice. And we left for him the hereafter. Peace be on Ibrahim. Thus we reward the good doers. Indeed he was of Our believing slaves. And we gave him glad tidings of Isaac, a Prophet among the righteous.” (Qur’an 37:107-112)

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There was some really interesting, and engaging back and forth between Mustafa Akyol & Dr. Abdullah bin Hamid Ali on these text. Mustafa Akyol appealed to the mystic Ibn al-Arabi in the exchange.

Abdullah bin Hamid Ali: He is the Founding Director of the Lamppost Education Initiative. He serves as an associate professor of Islamic law and Prophetic Tradition at Zaytuna College in Berkeley, California (2007-present). He holds a Ph.D. in Cultural and Historical Studies in Religion (2016) and an M.A. in Ethics and Social Theory (2012) from the Graduate Theological Union. He obtained his B.A. (ijaza ‘ulya) in Islamic Law (Shariah) from the prestigious Al-Qarawiyin University of Fes, Morocco in 2001. He is an Ashari in theology and a Maliki in matters of jurisprudence.

Mustafa Akyol: Mustafa Akyol: He is a journalist and columnist. Notable for his post-modernist and liberal reform views. Since 2018, Akyol has been a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank founded and financially supported by the Koch brothers, right wing politicians.

This blog entry is in regard to an exchange that happened between Abdullah bin Hamid Ali and Mustafa Aykol. We provide our comments when necessary.

Now Mustafa Akyol had made the following post:

Mustafa Akyol stated:

“It is worth pondering: Did God really command Abraham (initially) to sacrifice his son? Many Muslims & other Abrahamic monotheists may say, “yes.” But there is an alternative view in Islam: There was no such divine command. Abraham just misinterpreted his dream.”-Mustafa Akyol

(The page is from my book, “Reopening Muslim Minds.”)

“Why is this important? Because the dominant view supports divine command theory: Whatever God commands, that is ethically right. The other view envisions a principled God: He will only command what is objectively ethical.” -Mustafa Akyol

Prima-Qur’an comments: The obvious problem with Mustafa’s assertion is who or what decides what a principled God would entail? Who also decides what is objectively ethical?

Abdullah bin Hamid Ali responds.

This post was responded to by Dr. Abdullah Bin Hamid Ali with:

To which Mustafa Aykol responded with:

To which Dr. Abdullah bin Hamid Ali responds with:

Prima-Qur’an comments: At this point in the exchange, Dr. Abdullah Bin Hamid Ali noted that Mustafa Akyol had transmitted errors made by others in the past. In particular to viewpoints attributed to the Hanafi school that they did not hold.

Rejoinder from Mustafa

Prima-Qur’an comments: There are a number of problems with the mystic Ibn Al Arabi’s view. He seems that Allah (swt) had veiled him from the truth of the matter.

From the text posted above:

“The state of sleep is the plane of the Imagination and Abraham did not interpret [what he saw], for it was a ram that appeared in the form of Abraham’s son in the dream, while Abraham believed what he saw [at face value] So his Lord rescued his son from Abraham’s misapprehension by the Great Sacrifice [of the ram], which was the true expression of his vision with God, of which Abraham was unaware.”

“Have you not considered what the Apostle of God said to Abu Bakr concerning the interpretation of visions when he said, “I was right in some cases and mistaken in others?” Abu Bakr asked him to acquaint him in which of them he had been right and in which
wrong, but he did not tell him
.”

“Thus were the cattle [symbols for years of scarcity and plenty. Had he been true to the vision he would have killed his son, for he believed that it was his son he saw, although with God it was nothing other than the Great Sacrifice in the form of his son.”

“Thus Joseph’s master says, If you will interpret the vision. Interpretation means to pass from the form of what one sees to something beyond it. Thus were the cattle [symbols] for years of scarcity and plenty. Had he (Ibrahim) been true to the vision he would have killed his son, for he believed that it was his son he saw, although with God it was nothing other than the Great Sacrifice in the form of his son.”

Prima-Qur’an comments: Ibn Al Arabi as someone making egregious blunders one after the other.

  1. Ibn Al Arabi the one who did not have the dream knows better than Ibrahim himself what the dream entailed?
  2. Ibn Al Arabi doesn’t help his case by stating that Yusuf (as) can interpret his dream correctly but Ibrahim (as) cannot! That is indeed very weak.
  3. Why relate the supposed conversation between Abu Bakr (ra) and the Blessed Messenger (saw) if we are to be let down with…” but he did not tell him
  4. So now Ibn Al Arabi does what the Prophet (saw) himself did not do?
  5. he (Ibrahim) been true to the vision he would have killed his son,” Did Ibn Al Arabi not read the Qur’an when Allah (swt) states: We called out to him: “Oh Ibrahim! You have already fulfilled the vision.” What does Ibn Al Arabi think would have happened had that voice not called out?

Rejoinder Dr. Abdullah Bin Hamid Ali

Prima-Qur’an comments: Apparently this is what Dr. Shehzad Saleem conveys what Javed Ahmed Ghamidi says as well. You can see that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPR-hzoROaw

So Javed Ahmed Ghamidi & Mustafa Akyol are of the same view here.

Prima-Qur’an comments: To be quite honest, Dr. Abdullah Bin Hamid Ali has already shown us the clear response in his initial reply.

Questions:

What were those words that Ibrahim was tried with?

“And when Ibrahim was tried by his Lord with certain words, which he fulfilled.” (Qur’an 2:124)

Then when they submitted and Ibrahim laid him on the side of his forehead
for sacrifice. We called out to him: “Oh Ibrahim! You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed this is how We reward the good-doers. For this was obviously a clear trial.(Qur’an 37:103-106)

“Then when they submitted” Can it be said that Ibrahim and his son submitted to Satan?

Can it be said that they both submitted to something false (faulty interpretation of a dream)?

We reward the good-doers” Can it be said that Satan rewards the doers of good?

For this was obviously a clear trial. What is there a clear trial in sacrificing a sheep or lamb? That is something people were accustomed to.

Prima Qur’an summary: What did we learn from this exchange?

This text is a reference to Ibrahim (as) being tried by Allah (swt) by certain words which he fulfilled.

The son (undisclosed) at this point. Was patient with what his father saw in his dream. His father Ibrahim (as) saw that he was to sacrifice his son.

When they had submitted (the son by submitting to the father’s authority and by this the vision given by Allah) and the father by submitting to the vision from Allah (swt). The submission itself was the fulfillment of the vision. Not the sacrificing of anything. The vision was already fulfilled.

“The answer of the Believers, when summoned to Allah and His Messenger, in order that He may judge between them, is no other than this: they say, “We hear and we obey“: it is such as these that will attain felicity.” (Qur’an 24:51)

Lastly, we see that immediately after this were the glad tidings of the second son of Ibrahim (as). That is the Prophet Isaac (as). Think about it. The willingness to sacrifice a son and not only is he sparred, but an announcement of a second son!

You were willing to sacrifice your son to Allah (swt) due to this tremendous test via submission you were awarded two sons! Subhan’Allah!

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Do Sunni Muslims believe animals can go to hell?

“When they see it, the criminal will wish he can ransom himself from the chastisement of that day by sacrificing his children.” (Qur’an 70:11)

“Indeed, Allah does not do injustice, [even] as much as an atom’s weight; while if there is a good deed, He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward.” (Qur’an 4:40)

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“And the request of forgiveness of Ibrahim for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became apparent to Ibrahim that his father was an enemy to Allah, he disassociated himself from him. Indeed was Ibrahim compassionate and patient.” (Qur’an 9:114)

In this short entry we will be discussing a very curious hadith found in Bukhari.

We like to call this: The TO BE CONTINUED….hadith.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3350)

You can see how some Sunni scholars tried to deal with this hadith.

Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī in Fatḥ al-Bārī says Āzar was transformed from human form into an animal form for two reasons:

The first reason: As a mercy to Abraham — because if Āzar entered the Fire in the form that Abraham knew, Abraham would be pained every time he looked toward the Fire and saw his father. So Allah wished to show mercy to Abraham by transforming his father’s form.

The second reason: Āzar had seen the signs indicating Allah’s oneness, the proof had been established against him, yet he refused anything but polytheism. Therefore, the punishment is of the same kind as the deed. He was transformed into a stupid hyena because he was characterized by stupidity and rejected the call to monotheism, so he was transformed into this form.

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/37774/737)

The Lord will answer him with the decisive word, that He has forbidden Paradise to the disbelievers. Then it will be said to Abraham: Look at what is under your feet. So Abraham, peace be upon him, will look and see a hyena covered in filth. The hyena is the male hyena with much hair. He will find it covered in excrement or blood. Then it will be seized by its limbs—that is, its hands and feet—and thrown into the Fire. It is said that it appeared to him in this repulsive form because So that he might disown him. The wisdom behind his transformation into a hyena, rather than any other animal, lies in the fact that the hyena is the most foolish of animals. Part of its foolishness is its heedlessness of what requires vigilance. When Azar rejected the advice of the most compassionate person towards him and instead accepted the deception of Satan, he resembled the hyena, known for its foolishness.
This hadith also illustrates God’s honoring of His friend Abraham.
Furthermore, it provides evidence that a child’s conversion to Islam will not benefit the parent on the Day of Judgment if the parent was not a Muslim

Source: (https://dorar.net/hadith/sharh/9790)

Prima Qur’an comments:

This hadith also illustrates God’s honoring of His friend Abraham.” What?! This wild explanation does nothing to tell us how Abraham (as) was not disgraced on that day. What is the resolution? What did Abraham learn about Āzar?

If Ibrāhīm knows the animal is his father, he still sees his father punished. The transformation doesn’t remove the shame—it merely changes the visual. This explanation solves nothing theologically. It also introduces a special privilege for Ibrāhīm that no other believer gets, which contradicts Qur’ānic justice (Qur’an 4:40).

If the animal were a ransom, Āzar would be saved. But the ḥadīth explicitly says Paradise is forbidden to disbelievers. So the animal is not a ransom—it’s just an animal being punished. That’s the plain reading.

Also, if this whole elaborate and fanciful interpretation is needed so that Abraham is not disgraced and dishonored, what good is that those reading this very article know that indeed his father was disgraced?!

So now we will need another elaborate and fanciful interpretation (let us see if we can beat the Sufis to it). That someone would suggest that we all have our memories wiped concerning the fate of Azar on the day of judgment!

We call the above hadith: The TO BE CONTINUED hadith.

You know, sometimes you get wrapped up in watching a series on television, and suddenly they cancel season three just when it was getting really interesting!

That’s the case with the following hadith:

“Ibrahim will meet his father on the Day of Resurrection, and Azar’s face will be dark and covered with dust. Ibrahim will say to him, “Did I not tell you not to disobey me?’ His father will say, ‘Today I will not disobey you.” Ibrahim will say, ‘O Lord! You promised me not to disgrace me on the Day of Resurrection; and what will be more disgraceful to me than cursing and dishonoring my father?” Then Allah will say, ‘I have forbidden Paradise to the disbelievers.’ Then he will be addressed, ‘O Ibrahim, what is beneath your feet?’ He will look and there will be a sacrificial animal (Dhahb) WHICH WILL BE CAUGHT BY THE LEGS AND THROWN INTO THE FIRE!”

In ya go ya little booger!

“He will look and there will be a sacrificial animal (Dhahb) which will be caught by the legs and thrown into the fire!”

When you look at this text, it is sensible that it stops at this part: “Then Allah will say, ‘I have forbidden Paradise to the disbelievers.” This concludes the matter.

Now the messy part.

The following part is all too easily an accretion by a redactor:

“Then he will be addressed, ‘O Ibrahim, what is beneath your feet?’ He will look and there will be a sacrificial animal (Dhahb) which will be caught by the legs and thrown into the fire!”

So we saw that this particular Hadith had a sensible conclusion. Yet theology won’t have it that way….we need it to continue…. “THEN….”

From this part on, the redactor just lets the imagination run wild…..

This becomes more interesting when you consider that, in Islamic history, both the Shi’i Muslims and the Ash’ari Sunni Muslims have had a real problem with the idea of the parents of the Prophet (saw) being in hellfire or even the father of Ibrahim being in the hellfire.

The Shi’i have made some very wild attempts to assert that Azar is not the father of Ibrahim but his uncle instead. Not to be outdone by none no other than Jalal Al-Din Al-Suyuti, threw his weight behind the idea as well.

(insh’Allah, perhaps these are subjects for future articles) ..

So there are two things to be immediately said about the Hadith above.

First point.

If Prophet Ibrahim (as) gets to ask for privileges on behalf of his father, then this means that all the Prophets will get to ask privileges for their wives, sons, daughters, uncles. Noah (as) gets to ask for his sons. Lut (as) gets to ask for his wife.

Second point.


This will indicate double standards. The Prophets get special treatment from Allah (swt) — Astaghfirullah and the rest of us. If we go to the Jannah, can we ask the same for our family members:” Will Allah (swt) be just and give this same treatment to everyone or only to the Prophets?

“And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.” (Qur’an 19:70)

So what did the sacrificial animal do to be burned by the fire?

Was this (let’s say a goat) was he:

Among the Mujrimun-criminals?

Among the Fasiq-defiantly disobedient?

Among the Munafiq-hypocrites?

Among the Mushrik-those who associate partners with Allah (swt) ?

May Allah (swt) forgive us. May Allah (swt) deal justly with those who forge narrations and put words in the mouth of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

Our understanding in the Ibadi school is that the animals are the creations of Allah (swt). They are created according to their fitra, and they do not rebel against Allah (swt). They are not subject to any punishment, certainly not hellfire.

To believe that the Blessed Messenger (saw) would not overburden camels or that he would cut his robe so as not to disturb a sleeping cat and then turn around and think that he narrated something like this is certainly wanting.

All praise be to Allah. Al hamdulillah.

“And the request of forgiveness of Ibrahim for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became apparent to Ibrahim that his father was an enemy to Allah, he disassociated himself from him. Indeed was Ibrahim compassionate and patient.” (Qur’an 9:114)

The idea of not accepting that the father of Prophet Ibrahim (as) goes to hell is the same train of thought that leads some Sunni Muslims to launch attacks upon the very Sahih hadith themselves!

You may read about that here:

You may also be interested in reading the following:

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

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