“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example for him who hopes in Allah and the last day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21)
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Malik ibn al-Huwayrith reported: The Prophet, (saw), said, “Pray as you have seen me praying. When the time of prayer arrives, let one of you announce the call to prayer for you and then let the older of you leader the prayer.” Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:631)
Salafi Shaykh Assim Al-Hakeem repeated a whopper of a lie about Imam Malik (and the way he performed prayer). He has yet to publically correct his position. He has also yet to provide us any evidence of his claims.
This is the article with his previous (incorrect) position parroting the mistake of Salafi preacher, Bilal Philips.
Shaykh Assim al-Hakeem metions about praying with the arms to the side.
Shaykh Assim Al-Hakeem says: “The, the famous dispute among Muslims rather to put my hand over the belly, on the chest or under the belly. Akhi if you pray, Al hamdulillah! Five times a day on time in the masjid it’s o.k where you want to put your hand. There are a hadith that stated, hadith Wail Ibn Hujr (May Allah be pleased with him) that the prophet used to put the right over the left on the chest. Now there are other hadiths that state that he used to put it, them under the navel or on his stomach. Wherever you feel good about do it! It is a Sunnah, SO EVEN IF YOU DON’T PUT YOUR HANDS ALTOGETHER, IF YOU JUST PUT THEM ON YOUR SIDE YOUR PRAYER IS VALID. YOUR PRAYER IS CORRECT. But, you should try your level best to follow the most authentic hadith and I, uh, uh, uh believe that the most authentic hadith which Al Albani (May Allah have mercy on him) also authenticated states that you put them on the chest.”
DEFINITELY NOT ON THE CHEST!
If you are keen to learn the prayer of Blessed Prophet (saw) may the following be helpful for you!
“So High above all is Allah, the King, the True. And do not hasten with (reciting) the Qur’an before its revelation to you is concluded, and say, “My Lord, improve me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)
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This entry was written as a response to a well-known Salafi Preacher by the name of Assim Al-Hakeem.
He has unfortunately uploaded a video in which he attacks Ahl al-Haqq wa-l istiqama (The People of Truth and Straightness). This is possibly due to one of three reasons.
Reason 1 is due to his lack of understanding.
Reason 2: maybe he made these statements about the Ibadi school while under the influence of alcohol. That is because Assim Al-Hakeem told young people all over the world that he “drinks beer” and that he is “proud of that.” So it is possible he made his comments while under the influence of intoxicants.
Reason 3 is this: Assim lied about his own Sunni Imam (Imam Malik) and it is not above him to willfully lie about the Ibadi or tell half-truths. May Allah (swt) guide him to a more just course.
Reason 1. His lack of understanding. No proper knowledge.
“Mabrouk says, who are the Ibaadiyyah? The Ibaadiyyah is a faction of Al Khawarij. It is one of the 72 sects that the Prophet (a.s) warned us from, dividing into. They follow the Khawarij; but they are a softer copy of the hard core Khwarij. And this what called Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (May Allah have mercy on his soul) to describe them as being the gay part of the Khawarij. They’re so gay compared to the Khawarij, that gives takfir and to have bloodshed. They are close in the attributes of Allah (Azawajal) to the Mutazila. So they deny allot of Allah’s attributes. They have their own misinterpretation when it comes to the scale and to the siraat. And to the things related to yom al qiyyamah (the day of judgement). They also believe that those who commit major sins are kafir, like the Khawarij. But they, it is is permissible to marry them. So they believe that those who are not from the Ibaadiyyah like us, they can marry from us and they can inherit from us. But we are, we will be in hellfire forever. And they have so many weird things. They believe the Qur’an is created and it is not one of Allah’s attributes. They believe that it is impossible to see Allah in paradise. So it’s a deviant cult. And allot of the scholars say that you must not pray behind them as the prayer would not be accepted and Allah knows best.”
The response to the Salafi Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem.
First point.
Assim says about us, “They’re so gay compared to the Khawarij, that gives takfir and to have bloodshed.”
Yet, he is the one who says, “And allot of the scholars say that you must not pray behind them as the prayer would not be accepted and Allah knows best.” Talk about takfir!
Second point.
Assim says about us,
“They have their own misinterpretation when it comes to the scale and to the siraat. And to the things related to yom al qiyyamah (the day of judgement).” He did not elaborate on what those things were. So it is challenging to comment upon what he did not elaborate upon.
Third point.
Assim says about us,
“So they deny allot of Allah’s attributes.” What attributes do they think we are denying? It is actually Assim Al-Hakeem’s group who make up attributes about Allah (swt).
Ibn ‘Uthaymeen stated:
“We believe that Allah, The Most High, has two real eyes. And this is the saying of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamā’ah. Abul-Hasan Al-Ash’aree said: The saying of Ahlus-Sunnah and the As-hāb Al-Hadeeth is that Allah has two eyes, without saying ‘how’ just as Allah has said, “[It was] sailing under Our Eyes.” (54:14).”
Source: (See Izālatus-Sitār ‘an Al-Jawāb Al-Mukhtār li-Hidāyatil-Muhtār of Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, p. 22; also Al-Maqālāt Al-Islāmiyyeen 1/345)
There is nowhere in the Qur’an or the Sunnah that says Allah “has two real eyes.”
The following video is for your educational purpose.
A typical conversation between us Ibadi and those who claim we deny the attributes of Allah (swt) usually goes like this.
Fourth Point.
Assim says about us,
“They also believe that those who commit major sins are kafir, like the Khawarij.”
If you want to read our understanding of this, based upon the Qur’an and Sunnah you may see the following:
This is quite a statement considering Preacher Assim believes in the hadith of the 73 sects. So we could ask Preacher Assim. “Are the Ibadi part of the saved group or not?” We don’t say simply because someone is not Ibadi, they will be in hellfire forever! That is false. Please see what our noble Shaykh says here:
“They believe the Qur’an is created, and it is not one of Allah’s attributes.”
That part is true. The Qur’an is created. It is not an attribute of Allah (swt). Although Allah (swt) does have the attribute of Speech. You may see our position here:
Reason 2. Assim Al-Hakeem was under the influence of alcohol. He was intoxicated when he made such statements.
“I drink beer, and I’m proud of that. But the beer I drink before you quote me for that is from Saudi Arabia, and it has 2% maybe 3% alcohol, and it’s legal, and it’s halal. One says, “Oh, it has alcohol!” Akhi, If I drink half a pack, nothing happens.”
Now the individual who made the video above chooses to use the pejorative ‘Wahabi’. However, I prefer to use the term ‘Salafi’.
Now, obviously, images of Muslim youths breaking their Ramadan fast with a bottle of 3% Hoegaarden beer and dates do not sit well with many more sensible Muslims.
There was lots of backlash and so Assim issued a retraction, clarification, kind of, sort of, not really…. The Preacher Assim continues…. “The presence of alcohol, if you consume a large amount of it, and you are not intoxicated, this means that it is permissible to consume.” Because why is wine haram? Because if you drink a lot of it you become intoxicated. If I have a barrel of whatever substance, and I’m not wasted, I’m not intoxicated, then drinking a little bit is o.k. But, if I have a bottle of a liquid of a drink and if I drink the whole bottle, I become wasted, I become drunk, then a single drop of it is haram.
Preacher Assim is following the view of the famous Salafi Shaykh, Saleh Al-Uthaymeen. The same one above who says that Allah (swt) has “two very real eyes.”
May Allah guide us!
Shaykh Saleh Al-Uthaymeen gave a controversial beer drinking fatwa.
Please do not listen to people like Shaykh Saleh Al-Uthaymeen or Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem! Please listen to someone sensible like Shaykh Mufti Menk on this matter!
Reason 3. Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem lied about a Sunni Imam (Imam Malik); and it is not above him to willfully lie about the Ibadi or tell half-truths.
Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem otherwise makes himself available to people via social media. It is not sure what his methodology is or the school that he follows. However, he is to be warned against because he gravitates towards a flippant and non-sober approach to many issues that demand sobriety.
May Allah (swt) guide him and us!
“Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is guided.” (Qur’an 16:125)
“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemple for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21)
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Malik ibn Al-Huwayrith reported:
We came to the Prophet (saw) while we were young men, and we stayed with him twenty nights. Then the Prophet considered that we were anxious to see our families, so he asked us who we had left behind to take care of them, and we told him. The Prophet was kindhearted and merciful, and he said, “Return to your families, teach them, and enjoin good upon them.” Pray as you have seen me praying. When the time of prayer arrives, then one of you should announce the call to prayer and the eldest of you should lead the prayer.
One of the most contentious issues among Muslims, more often than not, has to do with the way the Blessed Messenger (saw) did his prayers. This video below is well worth the listen. It is done by someone who follows the Hanafi school of jurisprudence, the Sunni denomination of Islam.
What he is explaining is that it is impossible to find a ‘Sahih’ hadith for every single act that is done in the prayer. He then argues that this is why for some Muslims in the Sunni denomination they decide to follow a school of jurisprudence.
The truth of the matter is that the prayer was established by the Blessed Messenger (saw). It is a mass transmitted sunnah. The hadith are written records for those who need to furnish proofs for things that were found to be objectionable. Things that stood out as different needed to have proof or evidence, more so than something people picked up as mass practice from those who preceded them and from those who preceded them.
The hadith in book form is a documented sunnah. Sometimes the documented sunnah captures the living sunnah and other times it does not. A proof of this is that the schools of jurisprudence believe that certain acts of the Blessed Prophet (saw) were either abrogated or abandoned altogether.
Kindly see our article here where we expand upon how the sunnah is received.
“Then he who is trusted should deliver his trust, and let him be careful (of his duty to) Allah, his Lord; and do not conceal testimony, and whoever conceals it, his heart is surely sinful; and Allah knows what you do.” (Qur’an 2:283)
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Imam Khalid Yasin is world renown orator and public speaker. He has delivered lectures on Islam all over the world. This is his testimony in regards to his time in Oman and being among those who follow Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The People of Truth and Steadfastness)
Sheikh Khalid Yasin in Oman.
May Imam Khalid Yasin be in good health and in an excellent state of Emaan. May Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).
“The Originator of the heavens and the earth; He made mates for you from among yourselves, and mates of the cattle too, multiplying you thereby; there is nothing like unto Him; and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)
The faculties of seeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp all–seeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)
“Allah has promised the believing men and believing women Gardens beneath which rivers flow. They shall abide in it. There are delightful dwelling places for them in the Gardens of Eternity. They shall, above all, enjoy the good pleasure of Allah. That is the great achievement.” (Qur’an 9:72)
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My friend had his brother in law send him these clips by a preacher from the Salafi sect claiming people will ‘see the face of Allah’ in the paradise.
The preacher in the above video says:
“O Rabb, show Your Face.” “We want to look at You.” “So Allah (swt) Orders for the Hijab to be removed. And the Hijab of Allah Is Light (Noor).” “And you will see your Lord Like you see the sun at its noon Or the moon at its full. ” “There will be faces looking at their Lord. Looking so much so that Allah” (swt)
“May Allah makes us of those who will lay eyes On the Blessed Face of Allah” (swt)
You ever notice how these people talk about seeing the ‘Face of Allah’ ? Why don’t they ask to see the foot of Allah? Why don’t they ask to see the two right hands of Allah? Why don’t they ask to see the shin of Allah? Why would it be shameful to ask that? Does Allah (swt) have attributes that are shameful? Astaghfiurllah! Of course not!
When I asked this of a brother his response was:
“I guess because the face is considered to be the seat of beauty in human beings.”
Right! However,
“There is nothing like unto Him; and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)
AS FAR AS ALLAH (SWT) REMOVING SOME HIJAB….WELL THINK AGAIN!
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Like where Imam Shafi’i is reported to have said that if he knew he would not see Allah (swt) he would not worship him, even though Allah (swt) NEVER made that a condition of worshipping him.
Allah (swt) has already told us what the great attainment is! It is not seeing his face!
“Allah has promised the believing men and believing women Gardens beneath which rivers flow. They shall abide in it. There are delightful dwelling places for them in the Gardens of Eternity. They shall, above all, enjoy the good pleasure of Allah. Thatis the great achievement.” (Qur’an 9:72)
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“He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him.” (Qur’an 59:23)
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The Salafis agreed to debate The Muslims, The People of Truth and Steadfastness, on the issue of ‘Seeing Allah in the hereafter‘. The Salafis are a people not very strong or grounded in theology.
Our noble Shaykh Masoud ibn Muhammed al Maghbali, from the Muslims debated with representatives of the Salafi sect. Professor Hossam Al-Jed from Egypt. Shaykh Masoud went to Egypt to represent the Muslims, while Professor Hossam Al-Jed represented the Salafi sect.
The full debate can be seen here:
Allah’s victory is in the creed of those whom he has purified. The Muslims, The People of the Truth and Steadfastness. The Professor read from his paper, but our noble Shaykh was confident with the arguments Allah (swt) supplied him from sound theology. All praises be to Allah (swt).
Indeed, the arguments for seeing Allah Almighty are weak.
Did Allah (swt) really reveal himself to that mountain? In the anthropomorphic sense that the Salafi claim?
He appeared in His true form?
Then where is he after this Transfiguration? Did he remain there or did he disappear?
Did he vanish?
Allah (swt) is the friend of the Blessed and Noble Messenger, Ibrahim who said in the same Qur’an:
“When the night overshadowed him, he saw a star and said, “This is my Lord!” But when it went down he said, “I do not like things that vanish.” (Qur’an 6:76)
Then they go against the apparent meaning of the verse: “The eyes do not perceive him, and he perceives the sight, and he is The Gentle, The Expert.” (Qur’an 6:103)
So they interpreted the word that the eyes cannot see him in another sense contrary to what came in the linguistic dictionaries, where they interpreted perception by ‘encompassing’ as some type of victory for their scandalous and decrepit doctrine.
After these debates many from among the Arabs left the Salafi sect and entered upon the way of the Muslims, The People of The Truth and Steadfastness. The Salafi’s deleted videos. Their Professor Hossam Al-Jed from Egypt was demoted from Professor to ‘Student of Knowledge’. Well, in this case Shaykh Masoud ibn Muhammed al Maghbali is also a student of knowledge.
We continue to call them and all others to the way of the Muslims, To the doctrine of transcendence. For this is the safest and securest road.
The faculties ofseeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp all–seeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)
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Salafi Shaykh Muqbil Al Wadi’i Hadith in Sahih Muslim on Seeing Allah is actually weak!
So Imam Al Daraqutni had a commentary about these hadith. In his book he made notes about these ahadith. Than comes along this big hadith scholar from Yemen. This hadith scholar is from the Salafi sect. His name is Muqbil bin Hadi bin Muqbil bin Qa’idah al-Hamdani al-Wadi’i al-Khallali.
So he took the book written by Imam Al Daraqutni and he made his own notes.
He said about the hadith of Ziyada under Sahih Muslim about the hadith ziyada that the ahl jannah will see Allah (swt) in the Jannah. (Astaghfirullah)
Imam Muqbil al-Wadi’i As Salafi, says this hadith is mistake by Thabit Umani. In the chain, the sanaad.
No one else has ever made this claim other than Muqbil al-Wadi’i Only Thabit al Bunani says this hadith is from Suhayb
The words of the hadith from Shaykh Thabit Bunani only go up to Abdulrahman bin Abi Laylaa only!
It is not from Suhayb nor from the Blessed Messenger (saw).
The words go up to Shaykh Abdulrahman bin Abi Laylaa (only!)
And according to their statement the mistake is coming by Hamaad bin Salamah. For any Hadith that comes through the channel of this man be careful!
There are four students under Thabit al Bunani
Hammad ibn Salamah
Sulaymān ibn al-Mughīrah
Hammad bin Zayd
Hamaad bin Waaqid
So this Imam Muqbli is saying the hadith is in Sahih Muslim is either weak or outright fabricated! On this point he is in agreement with the safe road, The Muslims, the Ibadi school.
May Allah (swt) guide this ummah to what is beloved to Allah (swt). We continue to call the people to the way of the Muslims, To the doctrine of transcendence. The way of the Qur’an and the Sunnah. For this is the safest and securest road.
Say, “My Lord has only forbidden immoralities – what is apparent of them and what is concealed – and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know.” (Qur’an 7:33)
“And who is more unjust than he who invents a lie about Allah ? Those will be presented before their Lord, and the witnesses will say, “These are the ones who lied against their Lord.” Unquestionably, the curse of Allah is upon the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 11:18)
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It is wrong to lie about a messenger of Allah (swt) and to deceive the people in the matter of theology.
“Even in the case of Prophet Moses (Peace be upon him) Prophet Musa (alayi salam) begged Allah to see him. Because he could hear him. Now he wanted to see him. He said, and that is recorded in surah Al Araf My Lord allow me to see you. His Lord said, You will never be able to see me….in this life. But when he insisted He said: Look at the mountain if the mountain stands still then perhaps you can see me. And a mountain is definitely much more stronger and powerful than Musa and all the human beings. So Allah The Almighty did as follows: The ayat 143 of surah Al Araf So Allah The Almighty allowed light beam of his light to shine at the mountain, the mountain turned into dust. Full of thunder, it turned into dust, like shredded wool. Then Musa (alayi salam) upon seeing what happened to the mountain he fell unconscious and then when he came back to his consciousness he realized that he was mistaken when he insisted on seeing Allah The Almighty. I repent unto you, I shall not ask for that again.” -Dr. Muhammad Salah
There are quite a few things wrong here with what the Salafi preacher had said.
#1) No where in the Qur’an does Allah (swt) say, “You will never be able to see me in this life” as if to indicate you will see Allah (swt) in the next life. It simply says, ‘You will never be able to se me!’ These people will tell lies about Allah (swt) and go against the clear text of the Qur’an and the Sunnah.
#2) Actually what Musa (alayi salam) said was:
“Highly Exalted are You; I have indeed repented to you, and I am the first of the believers.“
First of the believers in what?
Let us look at how various translations deal with verse in question:
“When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, “My Lord, show [Yourself] to me, so that I might see You.” Allah said, “You can never see Me. However, behold this mountain. If it remains firm in its place, then you will see Me.” As soon as his Lord revealed His limitless glory to the mountain, He caused it to crumble to dust and Moses fell down unconscious. After he recovered, he said, “May You be exalted in Your glory! I repent! I will be the first of the believers!” (Qur’an 7:143)
Time to manipulate English translations based upon the theological bent one has!
“Never can you see me.”
“You can never see me”
Both of the above translations are correct. It is the one that Dr. Muhammad Salah uses as well. Except, that he added to what Allah (swt) stated with the “in this life.”
“You cannot see me” This translation can be understood as “You cannot see me now” Notice the absence of the word ‘never’.
“But when his Lord manifested Himself to the mountain.” Is the belief that Allah (swt) did reveal himself to the mountain.
Did Allah (swt) really reveal himself to that mountain? In the anthropomorphic sense that the Salafi claim? He appeared in His true form? Then where is he after this Transfiguration? Did he remain there or did he disappear? Did he vanish? Allah (swt) is the friend of the Blessed and Noble Messenger, Ibrahim who said in the same Qur’an:
“When the night overshadowed him, he saw a star and said, “This is my Lord!” But when it went down he said, “I do not like things that vanish.” (Qur’an 6:76)
“When his Lord manifested His glory on the mountain.” This is more sensible especially when consider that even the revelation of Allah (swt), the Qur’an could crush mountains.
“If We had sent down this Qur’an upon a mountain, you would have seen it humbled and coming apart from fear of Allah. And these examples We present to the people that perhaps they will give thought.” (Qur’an 59:21)
What is the view of the Muslims, The Ahl Al Haqq Wal Istiqamah?
Well, dear reader, know that we Muslims put the Qur’an first. We do not attribute words and sayings to Allah (swt) that Allah (swt) did not say. This is a huge sin.
Musa (alayi salam) was aware of the impossibility of seeing Allah, but in asking for it he did not intend obtaining the impossible. He only intended thereby to hold back his people, who were stubborn in seeking it and made their belief in his Message dependent upon it.
“And recall when you said, “O Moses, we will not believe in you unless we see Allah plainly.” Thereupon the thunderbolt struck you while you were beholding.” (Qur’an 2:55)
It is obvious that these demands came before the Musa (alayi salam) approached Allah (swt). Musa (alayi salam) It is not difficult to see that this was a repeated request on their behalf, as the Qur’an mentions this in another place as well.
“The People of the Book demand that you make a book physically come down to them from heaven, but they demanded even more than that of Moses when they said, ‘Show us Allah face to face,’ and were struck by the thunderbolt for their presumption. Even after clear revelations had come down to them, they took the calf as an object of worship, yet We pardoned this, and gave Moses clear authority.” (Qur’an 4:153)
Now is it sensible to think that Musa would ask for the very same thing that they asked for and received the rebuke that they did for doing so? By Allah, to allege such a thing is nothing other than to put Musa (alayi salam) among the despicable ones from among the Children of Israel and to lower him to the level of the ignorant ones.
The proof that Musa (alayi salam) was not asking for himself, is because Allah (swt) could have replied to Musa (alayi salam), “You can never see Me.” This would have been sufficient for a believer.
The proof is that the mountain was destroyed.
Who witnessed the destruction of this mountain? Do you not think people would notice the sudden destruction of a mountain?
If the following happened to Musa (alayi salam) “He caused it to crumble to dust and Moses fell down unconscious.”
What do you think happened to the children of Israel who witnessed this?
“Thereupon the thunderbolt struck you while you were beholding.”
“and were struck by the thunderbolt for their presumption“
Notice after Musa (alayi salam) recovered he says, “”May You be exalted in Your glory! I repent! I will be the first of the believers!“
Why did Musa (alayi salam) say that he will be ‘the first of the believers’ when he is already a believer? Did the incident prove that Allah (swt) can be seen or not seen? Was Allah (swt) seen? No! So Musa (alayi salam) was testifying that he would be foremost among those who deny that Allah (swt) can be seen.
This is the correct belief on the matter:
This is the belief of the Muslims, those who are upon sound theology.
“Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.” (Qur’an 4:82)
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Now if I was to follow that particular aqidah view I would have to be at least be consistent with myself and consistent with the text of the Qur’an. So again we have nothing stating that x/y is the default place for Allah (swt).
The correct view if we are to take the verses as they and apply a consistent methodology would be to say that Allah (swt) exist in a set [4,0 & 0,4 & 3,4 & 4,3 & 3,5 & 5,3 etc.…]
We describe Him (swt) by what has been authenticated that he described himself with. And we affirm for Him (swt) what the Prophet (saw) has affirmed for Him in his authentic Sunnah. As for those that say that we affirm for Allah what He has affirmed for Himself. They wanted from that to believe in the literal text and pass it as it came. For example, when He (Allah)-Great and Glorious God says:
“The Most Merciful [who is] above the Throne established.” (Qur’an 20:5) For this ayat (verse) when taken literally implies that Allah has a position, and he is above the throne, he says like this. This is the literal meaning.
And when I discussed with one of them regarding this,. I asked him, “Do you always stick to the literal meaning?”
He said, “Yes I do stick to the literal always, I don’t differ nor do I alter.” I said, “Let’s agree to stick to the literal meaning and I will agree on this ruling till a certain time, but I hope that you’ll stick to it and don’t change your words. Now me and you have both agreed on the same madhab and the same opinion.
Which is to say: The affirmation and passing of the ayats (verses) like they came, and taking the literal meanings, and building the belief upon it. (the opinion).
“Good”, he said, “Good”. I said, “Then this ayat (verse), Allah affirms a position for himself which is above the throne {The Most Merciful [who is] above the Throne established.} But in another ayat(verse) Allah says, “Indeed, my Lord is on a path [that is] straight.” (Qur’an 11:56)
Is the straight path the same as the throne or a different thing? Without doubt it’s another place, then this is a 2nd position. And you must affirm the literal meaning.
In a third ayat, Our Lord, Great and Glorious God says: “There are not three in a private conversation but that He is the fourth of them, nor are there five but that He is the sixth of them-and no less than that and no more except that He is with them.” (Qur’an 58:7)
This is a third place, different from the throne and different from the straight path.
And in a fourth ayat (verse), He (Allah) Great and Glorious God says about his Prophet Musa (as) ”No! Indeed, with me is my Lord; He will guide me.” Qur’an 26:62 and Musa (as) was on the beach of the Red Sea when he said this.
And in a fifth ayat, Allah tells us about our Prophet (saw) that he said when he was in Ghar Thawr (a cave that Muhammed-saw hid in)
“Have no fear, for Allah is with us.” (Qur’an 9:40)
And Allah tells us about his Khalil (Friend), Ibrahim (as) that he said: “I will go to my Lord! He will surely guide me!” (Qur’an 37:99)
And he (Allah) Great and Glorious God says in another ayat (verse) “But there he finds Allah, Who settles his account in full.” (Qur’an 24:39)
And he says in another ayat (verse) He says: “There is no creature but that He holds it by its forelock.” (Qur’an 11:56)
And the Prophet (saw) says in his Sunnah “A slave becomes nearest to his Lord when he is in prostration.” Source: (https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:1428)
And he says as well mentioning about Allah “Did you not know that my servant so and so was ill and yet you did not visit him? Did you not know that if you had visited him you would have found me with him?” Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2569)
“When any one of you prays, he must not spit in front of him, for Allah is in front of him when he is engaged in prayer.” Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:416)
Which of these literal meanings will you take? Now I am following your madhab.
On the throne? Or on the straight path, or is he the fourth of the three or the sixth of the fifth or in Ghar Thour, or on the beach of the Red Sea or in or where? Or in the prostration position?
He said: “All of these are not taken literally except {The Most Merciful [who is] above the Throne established.}”
I said: “Then you broke your ruling.” “You broke your ruling.”
Anyhow, taking the literal meaning falsifies the fact that the source of the Qur’an is from Allah. It falsifies that, why?
Because Allah says, “Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly fund in it many inconsistencies.”(Qur’an 4:82) -and taking the literal meanings leads to that.
Sticking to the literal meaning leads to this inconsistency, because Allah Great and Glorious God affirms a hand for himself, and two hands, and affirms more than that..
{Allah’s hand is over theirs.}-Qur’an 48:10 {Rather, both his hands are extended}-Qur’an 5:64 {Do they not see that We have created for them from what Our hands have made, grazing livestock} –Qur’an 36:71
Which of these literal meanings will you take?
{sailing under Our ‘watchful’ Eyes} –Qur’an 54:14 { so that you would be brought up under My ‘watchful’ Eye.} –Qur’an 20:39 This is singular and that is plural, and lowest plural is 3 some say.
So, which of these literal meaning will you take? {they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.}
Taking the literal meaning is a ruling that is broken and false but actually rotten and sluggish. It’s not looked upon and not depended upon. And it’s throwed to the side of the walls. The same is in the sunnah as well.
Those that take the path of affirming the attributes by affirming and passing them like they came and took the literal meaning have contradicted this ruling of theirs and have heavily crushed it and they have left it crumbled and fragmented and have not left a peaceful (part) of it ever!
And there’s nothing which implies that as much as the act of some when he came to the hadith “Do not curse Time, for it is Allah Who is Time.” Is it not like this?
He said: “No this hadith is not taken by the literal meaning.” (For it is Allah Who is Time) Else its literal meaning implies the divinity of time! Does it not?
Also, “I become the hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes, and his leg with which he walks.” -taking the literal meaning leads to the belief of divine indwelling, is that not the case?
“Verily, those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the Most Beneficent (Allah) will bestow love for them (in the hearts of the believers).” (Qur’an 19:96)
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Ibn Taymiyya al Harrani in his as–Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah when he comments about the above ayat in relation to Ali ibn Abi Talib that:
“Allah (swt) has told that He will place on the believers and those that preform good, love. And this is a true promise from him. Especially for the Caliphs Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) for the general amount of companions loved them and they were the best periods of Islam. Ali was not like that, as a large number of companions (sahabah) and followers (tab’ieen) hated him, cursed him and fought him.”
Source: (منهاج السنة النبوية في نقض كلام الشيعة والقدريةMinhaj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah fi Naqd Kalam al-Shi’a wa al-Qadariyyah)
The implication (though not explicitly stated by Ibn Taymiyya) was that Ali was not of those who worked deeds of righteousness.
Ibn Taymiyya continues:
“They love and venerate him, while Abu Bakr and Umar – may God be pleased with them – have been hated and cursed by the Rafidah (Rejectors), the Nusayriyyah, the Ghulat (Extremists), and the Ismailis. However, it is known that those who loved those two (1) are better and more numerous, and that those who hated them are further from Islam and fewer.”
“This contradicts the case of Ali, for those who hated and fought him are better than those who hated Abu Bakr and Umar. In fact, the faction of Uthman, who love him and hate Ali, even if they are innovators and wrongdoers, are more knowledgeable and religious than the faction of Ali who love him and hate Uthman, and they are greater in jihad and justice. Thus, it is clear that the affection mandated for the three [first Caliphs] is greater.”
“And if it is said: ‘Claims of divinity and prophethood have been made about Ali (2),’ it is replied: ‘All the Khawarij considered him a disbeliever and the Marwaniyyah hated him. And these are better than the Rafidah who curse Abu Bakr and Umar – may God be pleased with them – let alone the Extremists (3).'”
Source: [Chapter: The Thirteenth Proof “You are only a warner, and for every people there is a guide.”]
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