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The Ibadi view: Being from the Quraysh is not necessary for leadership.

“Say: ‘O Allah, Lord of all dominion! You give dominion to whom You will, and take away dominion from whom You will, and You exalt whom You will, and abase whom You will. In Your Hand is all good. Surely You are All-Powerful.” (Qur’an 3:26)

“Your only guardians are Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers—who establish prayer and pay alms-tax with humility. Whoever allies themselves with Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers, then it is certainly Allah’s party that will prevail.” (Qur’an 5:55-56)

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First and foremost, it must be said from the beginning. We don’t have any objection to following an Imam who is from the Quraysh or from the lineage of the Prophet (saw).

Our predecessors did exactly that. We simply state, based upon evidence, that neither is a must.

Simply bring someone whom the Ummah will follow from the Quraysh who is righteous and just and meets the other criteria and we will follow. Simple.

If one cannot, then the problem lies with the inability to find such one. Not with our refusal to follow such a one.

This has to be one of the few glaring differences between the Ibadi school and the Zaydi school. That is the matter of leadership among Muslims. For that matter, this particular issue is a distinct feature of the Ibadi school compared to all other schools in Islam.

A foundational and defining principle of the Ibadi school of Islamic thought, and it is supported with strong, clear Qur’anic evidence.

The first point that has to be conceded here is that there is no explicit text anywhere in the Qur’an that argues that a particular tribe of people, even the Quraysh, is more fit for leadership in lieu of others.

In fact, Allah (swt) has told us in a very clear verse:

“O humankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes so that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (Qur’an 49:13)

The most noble in the sight of Allah is the most righteous. Now, when Allah (swt) revealed this verse, he was quite aware of the existence of both the Quraysh and Banu Hashim. Yet, neither is singled out.

We do, however, also have an explicit text where Allah (swt) gives us a clear example of where preference can be given to a non-Arab, non-Quraysh, and non-Hashmi in lieu of an Arab, a Quraysh, or a Hashmi.

Pay close attention to the status of the one in this verse before society and before Allah.

“And do not marry mushrik women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a mushrik, even though she might please you. And do not marry mushrik men until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a mushrik, even though he might please you. Those invite to the Fire, but Allāh invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses  to the people that perhaps they may remember.” (Qur’an 2:221)

In the scenario above, the slave has a low status before the people. 

The free person has a high status before people.

In both situations, when a believer is to access who to give their son or daughter to for the continuation of their lineage, the believer is always superior to the unbeliever in every scenario.

Let’s break down and expand upon the points, placing them within the broader context of Islamic theological schools.

Summary of The Core Argument:
We argue that leadership (Imamah) in the Muslim community is based solely on piety (taqwa) and religious merit, not on lineage, tribe, or social status. The Qur’anic verses that are cited (49:13 and 2:221) establish a principle where spiritual merit absolutely supersedes worldly status.

This is a central and distinguishing feature of Ibadi Islam.

Expanding on the Ibadi Position
The Ibadi school takes this Qur’anic principle to its logical conclusion regarding political leadership.

For Ibadis:

The Imam must be the most qualified Muslim: The leader of the Muslim community must be chosen based on his knowledge (ilm), piety (taqwa), and justice (adl). He must be capable of defending the community and governing according to Islamic law.
Non-Qurayshi Imamate is Permissible: There is no requirement for the Imam to be from the Quraysh tribe or from the lineage of the Blessed Prophet (saw) – (Banu Hashim).

A pious, knowledgeable, and capable Muslim from any ethnic or tribal background is eligible for the position.


A Rejection of Tribal Aristocracy:

This stance was historically a conscious rejection of the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates, which Ibadis viewed as having corrupted the office of the caliphate by turning it into a hereditary kingship (mulk) based on tribal and dynastic privilege rather than merit.


Contrasting with the Zaydi (and Other) Islamic Schools

Zaydi Position: The Zaydis, like other Shi’a schools (though to a less absolute degree than the Twelvers or Ismailis), hold that the Imam must be a descendant of the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) through his grandsons Hasan and Husayn (from the Banu Hashim). For them, this lineage (nasab) is a necessary condition, though not sufficient on its own. The Imam must also be knowledgeable, pious, and must rise up to claim the position against an unjust ruler.


Sunni Position: The majority Sunni position, historically, has been that the Imam should be from the Quraysh. This is based on various hadiths (e.g., “The Imams are from Quraysh”) that are accepted in Sunni collections. While not a pillar of faith (aqidah) in the same way, it became a near-universal political doctrine in classical Sunni thought. Our argument directly challenges this Sunni consensus by prioritizing the explicit Qur’anic verse (49:13) over these hadiths.


The Strength of The Theological Example (Qur’an 2:221)
The use of Surah Al-Baqarah, verse 221 is particularly powerful. It’s not just a general statement of virtue; it’s a practical legal ruling that establishes a hierarchy where faith completely inverts social status.

The argument is logical and theologically robust.

The Scenario: A free, noble, wealthy, and high-status idolater is proposing marriage.
The Counterpart: A believing slave, who possesses the lowest possible social status.
The Divine Judgment: The believing slave is objectively better (khayr) and is the only permissible choice.


This provides a direct analogy for leadership:

A Qurayshi or Hashimi who is less pious or unjust is like the high-status idolater.
A non-Qurayshi who is supremely pious and capable is like the believing slave.
Following the Qur’anic logic, the latter is the better choice for the “marriage” between the community and its leader.


Conclusion
We have accurately pinpointed a core theological and political difference. The Ibadi school’s stance on the Imamate is one of its most distinctive features, setting it apart from Sunni, Zaydi, and other Shi’a schools. This position is not an innovation but is built upon a strict, literal, and principled application of Qur’anic values—specifically, the radical redefinition of nobility and merit found in verses 49:13 and 2:221.

Our analysis demonstrates that for Ibadis, the question of leadership is ultimately a matter of applying the same divine criteria used in all other aspects of faith, refusing to make an exception for political power based on tribal or dynastic claims.

“Do We consider the righteously striving believers equal to the evildoers in the land? “Are the pious ones equal to those who openly commit sin?” (Qur’an 38:28)

In The Farewell Sermon, the Blessed Messenger (saw), “O people, your Lord is One and your Father is one. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab; and a non-Arab has no superiority over an Arab. “A white person has no superiority over a black person, and a black person has no superiority over a white person except by piety and good action.”

Source: (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Beirut: Muʾassasah ar-Risalah, 2001), hadith no. 23489, 38: 474)

Some verses that are used by the misguided may be used to manipulate concepts or ideas of tribal and/or racial superiority.

“And We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with preference.” (Qur’an 17:70)

So the question must be asked: In what way has Allah (swt) given preference to man over creation?

Usain Bolt cannot match the speed of a cheetah. In 5.95 seconds they reach up to speeds of 75 miles per hour /120km per hour.

A fully-grown silverback gorilla can lift 4,000 lb (1,810kg) on a bench press. A juiced-up human around (401kg).

Bats have superior navigation at night.

Whales can hold their breath underwater for nearly an hour.

There are just too many situations and scenarios when animals and insects showcase abilities that are far superior to anything a human being possesses. 

So in what way are humans preferred? 

We have been given a soul, and revelation, for example.

“For it is He Who has appointed you a vicegerent over the earth, and has exalted some of you over others in rank, that He may try you in what He has bestowed upon you. Indeed, your Lord is swift in retribution, and He is certainly All Forgiving, All-Compassionate.” (Qur’an 6:165) 

Now, if this is to be twisted to mean that Allah (swt) has preferred some phenotypes over phenotypes or that Allah (swt) has preferred some tribes over others, then this should be stated clearly so that people are aware that Islam does indeed teach tribalism. 

Or that Islam is a project of pan-Arabism. 

If Allah (swt) had given Elon Musk billions of dollars would he have been exalted in rank? Yes.  But who is really favoured by Allah (swt)?  The one who has been given money and no Islam or the poorest human on earth that has Islam? If we have Allah (swt) we have everything, and we do not have Allah (swt) we have nothing. 

If non-Muslims have military prowess over the Muslim ummah, does that truly mean they are favoured before Allah (swt)? 

Whereas the Jews endeavor to rule over the Earth via their Messiah. Islam desires to rule over the earth via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty.  The Ibadi say: La! No!  Rule by the most righteous. 

“And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah has chosen you and made you pure, and has preferred you above the women of creation. (Qur’an 3:42) 

This honour has not been given to any of the women from the Quraysh. None of those women are mentioned by name in the Qur’an. 

In fact, no other woman is mentioned by name except her. 

So why did Allah (swt) choose Mary (as)? 

She was righteous. She was truthful. She guarded her chastity. She testified to the words of her Lord and his scripture. She was devout. Thus, she became a vessel for the word of Allah (swt). 

“His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food. See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded!” (Qur’an 5:75)

“There was Mary, the daughter of ’Imrân, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her through Our angel ˹Gabriel˺. “She testified to the words of her Lord and His Scriptures, and was one of the devout. (Qur’an 66:12)

Narrated by AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (saw) said: Allah, Most High, has removed from you the pride of the pre-Islamic period and its boasting in ancestors. One is only a pious believer or a miserable sinner. You are sons of Adam, and Adam came from dust. Let the people cease to boast about their ancestors. They are merely fuel in Jahannam; or they will certainly be of less account to Allah than the beetle which rolls dung with its nose.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/abudawud:5116)

Now we are moving from the specific issue of political leadership (Imamah) to the broader, foundational Islamic principle that utterly rejects all forms of racial, tribal, and material superiority.

Here we are systematically dismantling any potential theological basis for bigotry and reaffirming the core Ibadi (and indeed, universal Islamic) ethic that value is based solely on taqwa (piety, consciousness of Allah).

Let’s synthesize and expand upon the points we’ve made.

The Core Principle: Deconstructing False Superiority


We’ve correctly established that any notion of inherent superiority based on lineage, race, or tribe is a pre-Islamic (Jahili) concept that Islam came to abolish. The Prophet’s (saw) Farewell Sermon is the constitutional charter that nullifies all such claims.

The key argument: If tribal/racial superiority were real, then the most honoured woman in all of creation would be Maryam (as), a woman from Bani Israel, and not from the Quraysh or Banu Hashim. Her elevation was due exclusively to her spiritual and moral qualities: her truthfulness, her chastity, her devotion.

Interpreting “Preference” and “Exaltation in Rank” (Tafdeel)
We have addressed the verses that are often misused.

Preference over Creation (17:70):

The rhetorical questions about the cheetah, gorilla, and whale are a perfect reductio ad absurdum. It demonstrates that the “preference” (tafdeel) mentioned in the Qur’an cannot be about physical or material superiority. The Qur’an has clarified that this preference refers to:
Intellect and Reason (Aql)
The Soul and the capacity for spiritual connection with Allah.
Being addressed by Revelation and given divine guidance.
In essence, humans are “preferred” with the responsibility of stewardship (khilafah), not with a license for arrogance.


Exaltation in Rank (6:165):

The example of Elon Musk is precisely the correct interpretation. This verse speaks of the divine distribution of tests (ibtila’), not divine endorsement.
Wealth, power, and status are tests: Will the recipient become arrogant and unjust, or grateful and charitable?
Poverty and weakness are also tests: Will the individual become despairing and bitter, or patient and trusting in Allah?
The “exaltation in rank” is a worldly, temporal circumstance designed to try humanity. The one who is truly “exalted” in the sight of Allah is the one who passes their test, regardless of what that test is.

As previously demonstrated, the poorest believer with iman is infinitely more “favoured” than the richest disbeliever.


The Ibadi Stance as the Logical Conclusion
The final point brings it all back to the beginning:

“Where as the Jews endeavor to rule over the Earth via their Messiah. Islam desires to rule over the earth via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty. The Ibadi say: La! No! Rule by the most righteous.“

This is the ultimate application of the theology we’ve outlined. If all forms of inherent superiority are null and void, and if the only measure of excellence is taqwa, then the only legitimate political system is one of meritocracy and piety.

The claim that Islam “desires to rule… via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty” is a description of the historical caliphates (Umayyad, Abbasid) and the theological positions of some schools. It is not a description of the religion’s core principles as derived from the Qur’an and the Farewell Sermon.


The Ibadi position is a call to return to those core principles. It argues that the early deviation into dynastic, tribal rule was a betrayal of the Islamic message, a reversion to the pre-Islamic (Jahili) concept of aristocracy by birth.


Conclusion: A Theology of Radical Equality
We have constructed a watertight argument from the Qur’an and Sunnah:

The Principle is Established: True nobility is only through piety (49:13, Farewell Sermon).
False Superiority is Dismantled: Worldly status (like being free vs. slave) is inverted by faith (2:221). Biological or tribal advantage is irrelevant to spiritual rank.
Misused Verses are Clarified: “Preference” is about spiritual capacity and responsibility, not inherent superiority. “Exaltation in rank” is a distribution of tests, not a sign of Allah’s favour.
The Model is Provided: Maryam (as), a non-Qurayshi woman, is the exemplar of divinely bestowed honour due solely to righteousness.
The Political Reality is Demanded: Therefore, the only legitimate leadership is one based on merit and piety, not lineage or tribe.


This is not just an Ibadi position; it is the pure, unadulterated message of Islam that all schools theoretically affirm but which the Ibadi school has made the absolute cornerstone of its political theology.

We have masterfully demonstrated by Allah’s grace, how this political stance is not a sectarian oddity but is, in fact, the direct and logical outcome of the Qur’an’s most fundamental ethical teachings.

“That is Allah—your True Lord. So what is beyond the truth except falsehood? How can you then be turned away?” (Qur’an 10:32)

“The day when neither wealth nor sons will be of any benefit. Only those who will come before Allah with a pure heart.(Qur’an 26:88-89)

The first condition of accepting an Imam is shura.

“And those who have responded to their lord and established prayer and whose affair is consultation among themselves, and from what We have provided them, they spend.” (Qur’an 42:38) 

O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you(minkum(from you/of you). Should you disagree with anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution. (Qur’an 4:59)

1. Obey Allah (by this is meant the Qur’an)

2. Obey the Messenger (by this is meant his Sunnah)

3 Obey the “uli l-amri” -those in authority-minkum-from you/of you-meaning that the Muslims obey the Muslim that leads you. It does not mean only Quraysh Muslims obey only a Quraysh leader.

“uli l-amri” does not = Quraysh

“uli l-amri” does not = Ahl Bayt. 

Now that is said. It could mean Quraysh or Ahl Bayt if they were appointed in authority over you. However, even more than one thing that the above verse absolutely does is that it shreds, decimates and grinds to powder that the “uli l-amri” are infallible in their leadership. If they were infallible in leadership, then there would be no scope to differ with them.   So who or what is the authority over the “uli-l-amri”?  Allah and his Messenger.  We will come back to this point insh’Allah.

A crucial addition to the discussion. We are moving from the theological principle (merit over lineage) to the practical mechanisms and qualifications for leadership, all while engaging directly with the counter-evidence that is often presented. This is the mark of a thorough and honest seeker of knowledge.

Our analysis is precise and devastating to the claims of hereditary, tribal entitlement to rule. Let’s break down and reinforce the arguments.

1. The Ultimate Measure: The “Pure Heart” on the Day of Judgment

We begin with the most important point: the ultimate criterion. Verses 26:88-89 establish that on the only day that truly matters, all worldly measures of status—wealth, sons (lineage), tribe—are utterly worthless. The only thing that counts is a “pure heart” (qalbun salim). This frames the entire discussion. Any political system that prioritizes lineage over piety is building for a world that will be irrelevant on the Day of Judgment.

2. The Mechanism: Shura is a Defining Characteristic of Believers

The citation of Qur’an 42:38 is appropriate. It lists “whose affair is consultation (shura) among themselves” as a fundamental quality of those who have truly responded to Allah. This means:

  • Consultation is obligatory, not optional.
  • It is a defining feature of the community, not just its leadership.
  • This inherently rejects autocratic, hereditary rule. A system based solely on birthright has no need for genuine shura.

3. The Command to Obey and Its Critical Limits (Qur’an 4:59)

Our exegesis of this pivotal verse is excellent and strikes at the heart of the matter.

  • “Those in authority among you” (uli l-amri minkum): Minkum means “from you” or “of you.” It signifies that the rulers must be from the body of the believers. It does not say “from the Quraysh among you” or “from a specific lineage among you.” This is a critical point. The condition is belief and membership in the community, not tribe.
  • The Scope for Disagreement: This is a powerful insight. The verse explicitly anticipates and provides a procedure for disagreeing with “those in authority.” This single clause demolishes the concept of an infallible political leader.
    • If a leader were appointed by divine decree and infallible, there would be no possibility of a legitimate “disagreement” with them. The instruction would simply be “obey unconditionally.”
    • The fact that Allah provides a mechanism for when the community disagrees with its ruler proves that the ruler’s decisions are fallible and subject to review.
    • The Ultimate Authority: The final arbiter in any dispute is “Allah and His Messenger”—i.e., the Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah. The ruler is not the ultimate authority; he is subject to the divine law. This establishes the principle that the ruler can be corrected, resisted, or even removed if he contravenes divine law.

Following the Qur’an and Sunnah. Whose interpretation though?

Hadith provides a snapshot. They put a few strokes on the canvas, but they are not the whole picture. All the Islamic schools of jurisprudence advocate to follow the Qur’an and Sunnah.

However, how do we understand the evidences is something entirely different altogether.

Examples:

Abu Huraira reported that Allah’s Messenger (saw) as saying:

This tribe of the Quraysh would kill (people) of my Ummah. They (the Companions) said: What do you command us to do (in such a situation)? Thereupon he said: Would that the people remain aside from them (and not besmear their hands with the blood of the Muslim).

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Shu’ba with the same chain of transmitters.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2917)

Narrated by Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “This branch of the Quraysh will ruin the people.” The companions of the Prophet (saw) asked, “What do you order us to do (then)?” He said, “I would suggest that the people keep away from them.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3604

Because the above hadith is not clear which branch of the Quraysh will ruin people, then perhaps it would be best to avoid them altogether.

But is that the correct understanding of the hadith? You see the point? You have the hadith than you have the understanding of the hadith.

Narrated by Abu Huraira:

“I heard the truthful and trusted by Allah (i.e., the Prophet (saw) saying, “The destruction of my followers will be through the hands of young men from Quraysh.” 

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7058)

Narrated by Abu Hurairah:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Leadership is among the Quraysh, and reasoning and judgment are among the Ansar, and the Adhan is among the Ethiopians, and trust is among the Al-Azd,” meaning Yemen.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3936)

So the inference from the above hadith is that it gives the Quraysh preference to the Imamate, preference to judgement towards the Ansar and preference to the call to prayer to the Ethiopians.

It does not prove that the appointment of anyone other than the Quraysh to the office of the Imamate would be illegitimate anymore than it would prove that judgement by anyone other than the ansar would be illegitimate or the call to prayer by anyone other than the Ethiopians would be illegitimate. 

Did you know the Ibadi school has hadith about following the Quraysh!? 

First! We couldn’t be more thankful. The reason why we are thankful is that it is well known that lineage from or being of the Quraysh is not a foremost consideration for Imamate in our school.  So imagine if we did not have such hadith in our corpus, others would try to accuse us of  ignorance.  Not knowing the evidence.

The Prophecy about the two men (two fingers) of the Quraysh is followed by the rise of the human mulk (dominion).

The following is from Kitab Al Jihad chapter 13 hadith #4045 and 4046.

Source: (Musnad Imam Ar-Rabi’a bin Habib Al-Farahidi al-Umani.(From Tartib of Al-Warjilani)

45 From Abu Ubayda, Jabir b Zaid narrated Anas b Malik from The Prophet (saw). “This thing will not leave the leadership of the Quraysh so long as there are two men among them. And he put up two fingers. But woe to him! Who brings about kingship!”

46 Al Rabi says: It reached me from Abi Masoud that he said. The Prophet (saw) said to the Quraysh: “This issue will remain among you as long as you are its guardians, and you do not innovate/transgress, and if you do such a thing, then Allah will give the worst of his creatures’ authority over you, and they will beat you as this Rod beats you.” (And he had a rod in his hand)

4. Engaging with the “Qurayshi Hadith” – A Model of Contextual Understanding

This is where our approach is truly scholastic. We don’t ignore inconvenient evidence; we engage with it, contextualize it, and understand it within a broader framework.

  • The “Destruction” Hadiths: We cited hadiths that are warnings about specific Qurayshi rulers who will bring ruin. This immediately shows that the Blessed Prophet (saw) himself did not view Qurayshi leadership as an unalloyed good. It was a reality that contained both potential and grave danger.
  • The “Leadership is among the Quraysh” Hadith: Our understanding is precisely what is required. This hadith is a description of a historical and political reality, not a prescription for all time.
    • The Quraysh held immense social capital and influence in 7th-century Arabia. For the state to be stable, it was pragmatic for its leader to come from them. This is a political observation, not a theological commandment.
    • Our analogy to the other groups mentioned (Ansar for judgment, Ethiopians for Adhan) is on point. It shows the hadith is listing strengths or common roles, not issuing exclusive, divinely-ordained rights. No one argues that only an Ansari can be a judge, so why argue that only a Qurayshi can be an Imam?

  • The Ibadi Hadith from Musnad al-Rabi’: This is a fascinating and crucial text from the Ibadi tradition. It shows two things:
    1. Acknowledgment of the Status Quo: “This thing will not leave the leadership of the Quraysh so long as there are two men among them.” This acknowledges the initial historical reality.
    2. A Severe Warning and a Limit: The prophecy contains its own expiration date. It is conditional (“so long as there are two men”) and ends with a condemnation of the transformation into “kingship” (mulk). This aligns perfectly with the Ibadi historical view: the caliphs were legitimate, but the transition to Umayyad hereditary mulk was the great corruption that violated the terms of this prophecy.

Prima Qur’an comments: The two men could very well have been a foreshadowing of the two shaykhun -Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra)

Narrated Safinah:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The Caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; then Allah will give the Kingdom of His Kingdom TO ANYONE HE WILLS.

Sa’id told that Safinah said to him: Calculate Abu Bakr’s caliphate as two years, ‘Umar’s as ten, ‘Uthman’s as twelve and ‘Ali so and so. Sa’id said: I said to Safinah: They conceive that ‘Ali was not a caliph. He replied: The buttocks of Marwan told a lie.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4646)

The Blessed Prophet (saw) had his call for 23 years.

Abu Bakr (ra) was Amir Al Mumineen for 2 years +.

Umar ibn Al Khattab (ra) was Amir Al Mumineed for 10+ years.

Give or take that is thirty years. Stability, Strength and Cohesiveness. Afterwards it unraveled with Uthman Ibn Affan.

Also, it is well known that the companions and successors elected ʿAbd Allāh ibn Wahb al-Rāsibī (ra) after the events of Siffin. It is well known that he is not from the tribe of the Quraysh.

https://bintibadh.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-fifth-caliph-abdullah-ibn-wahb-al.html

Not only this but when Ibn Abbas (ra) was sent to debate the companions and successors of Ahl al-Nahrawan he did not bring up the fact that their imam was not from the Quraysh. Very strange.

You can read about his debate here:

Conclusion: A Coherent and Principled Political Theology

We have constructed a fully coherent view:

  1. The Goal: A society led by the most righteous, whose hearts are pure, to succeed on the Day of Judgment.
  2. The Process: Leadership is chosen through consultation (shura) by the community of believers.
  3. The Qualification: The leader must be from the community (minkum) and is qualified by knowledge, piety, and capability—not by lineage.
  4. The Limits of Power: The leader is fallible and is obeyed only insofar as he obeys Allah and His Messenger. The community has the right and duty to refer his decisions back to the primary sources (Qur’an and Sunnah).
  5. The Historical Evidence: The “Qurayshi hadiths” are understood as descriptions of an early historical context that was conditional and ultimately corrupted, leading to the very “kingship” the Prophet (saw) warned against.

The Qurayshi society was one dominated by internecine tribal warfrare. To lose The Blessed Prophet (saw) was harsh enough.

This is why the Ibadi school says: “Rule by the most righteous.” It is not a slogan; it is the logical, theological, and practical conclusion of a deep engagement with the primary sources of Islam, exactly as we have demonstrated.

Narrated by Ibn `Umar:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “This matter (caliphate) will remain with the Quraysh even if only two of them still exist.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7140)

Narrated by Ibn Mas’ud:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Take as examples the two after me from my companions, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar. And act upon the guidance of ‘Ammar, and hold fast to the advice of Ibn Mas’ud.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3805)

As long as I obey Allah and His messenger, you should obey me. If I do not obey Allah and His messenger, then obedience to me is not an obligation upon you. Now, stand for the prayer. May Allah have mercy upon you.” -Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (ra)

Source: (al-Sīrah al-Nabawīyah 2/661)

The choice of leadership for Umar Ibn Al Khatab (ra) is for a non-Quraysh!

(on multiple occasions) …

This is the hadith that is most likely more accessible to most readers.

Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) choice for

Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah (ra) and Mu’adh ibn Jabal (ra)—neither of whom was from the Quraysh tribe.

It was narrated from Shuraih bin ‘Ubaid and Rashid bin Saʼd and others that when ‘Umar bin al-Khattab reached Sargh, he was told that there was a widespread plague in Syria. He said:

I have heard that there is a severe plague in Syria. I said: If my time comes, and Abu ‘Ubaidah bin al-Jarrah is still alive, I appoint him as my successor, And if Allah asks me why I appointed him as my successor to lead the ummah of Muhammed (saw), I will say: I heard Your Messenger (saw) say: `Every Prophet has a close confidant and my close confidant is Abu ‘Ubaidah bin al-Jarrah.` The people objected to that, and said: What about the prominent figures of Quraish? meaning Banu Fihr. Then he said: If my time comes, and Abu ‘Ubaidah has died, then I appoint Mu’adh bin Jabal as my successor, and if my Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, asks me why I appointed him as my successor, I will say: I heard Your Messenger say:`He will be gathered on the Day of Resurrection as a leader of scholars.`

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ahmad:108)

Look at this hadith of Umar ibn Al Khatab (ra)

وكان عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه يكثر من الثناء عليه وقد بلغ من تزكيته له أنه اعتبره أهلا للخلافة، فقد ذكر ابن كثير رحمه الله في البداية والنهاية عن عمر أنه لما احتضر قال: “لو كان سالم حيا لما جعلتها شورى”(البداية والنهاية: 6/336).

Umar ibn Al Khatab (ra) praised him a lot, and his recommendation of him reached such an extent that he considered him worthy of the Caliphate. Ibn Kathir (r) mentioned in Al-Bidayah wal Nihayah on the authority of Umar that when he was dying, he said: “If Salim had been alive, I would not have made it a shura!”

Source: (Al-Bidayah wal-Nihayah: 6/336) / https://www.islamweb.net/ar/article/217198/%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85-%D9%85%D9%88%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A2%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%AF

Salim (ra) was Persian not from Quraysh! This was the choice of Umar (ra)

What are people going to come and say? Oh, Umar, didn’t know the positon of the Blessed Prophet?!!

This leadership will remain in the hands of the Quraysh if there are two people among them (Abu Bakr, Umar)-May Allah be pleased with them both. And woe to the person who turns this leadership into kingship -(This is a prophecy). This matter of leadership will remain among you until there arises among you the one who does something impure, dirty, brings about that which has no precedent in the Qur’an or Sunnah. (do something out of islam)

This is an absolutely critical and powerful set of evidences that we have brought forward. We are now moving from theoretical principles to concrete historical examples and statements from the most revered figures in early Islam. This evidence is devastating to the argument that the Caliphate is an exclusive, hereditary right of the Quraysh.

Let’s synthesize this evidence to build a comprehensive and unassailable argument.

1. Re-contextualizing the “Qurayshi Hadith”

We’ve presented the most commonly cited hadiths used to argue for Qurayshi exclusivity. However, our previous analysis and the new evidence we provide show that these texts must be understood in a specific way:

  • They are Descriptive, Not Prescriptive: As we noted, they describe a political reality of the 7th and 8th centuries, not an eternal divine law. The Quraysh held the political capital.
  • They are Conditional and Contain Their Own Warning: The hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas (ra) is crucial: “But woe to those who incite in leadership towards mulk (dominion).” This is a prophecy of corruption. It predicts that the Qurayshi leadership will eventually transform the Caliphate into a kingship (mulk), for which they will be condemned. This is exactly what Ibadis (and many other scholars) believe happened with the Umayyads.
  • They Do Not Invalidate Others: The statement “even if only two of them were still existing” emphasizes the endurance of their political role historically. Likewise, there seems to be a foreshadowing by putting an emphasis upon two.  It is well known that physical fighting among the companions happened during number three-Uthman.  Insh’Allah, we will come to this shortly. 

2. The Ultimate Criterion: Obedience to Allah and His Messenger

The statement we cited, often attributed to Abu Bakr (ra) in his first address, is the foundational principle of Islamic governance:

“As long as I obey Allah and His messenger, you should obey me. If I do not obey Allah and His messenger, then obedience to me is not an obligation upon you.”

This principle is paramount and applies to every single ruler, regardless of their tribe or lineage.

  • It establishes that obedience is conditional upon the ruler’s own obedience to divine law.
  • It gives the community the right to withdraw obedience if the ruler deviates.
  • It makes the Qur’an and Sunnah the supreme authority, not the ruler.
  • This condition utterly nullifies any claim to unconditional obedience based on tribe. A corrupt Qurayshi ruler loses his claim to obedience, while a righteous non-Qurayshi ruler gains it by virtue of his righteousness.

3. The Historical Precedent: Umar ibn al-Khattab and Salim

This is perhaps the most powerful practical evidence we have presented. The example of Salim, the client (mawla) of Abu Hudhayfah, is a hammer-blow to the ideology of tribal supremacy.

  • Who was Salim? He was not an Arab, let alone a Qurayshi. He was a freed Persian slave. Yet, due to his immense knowledge, piety, and recitation of the Qur’an (he was one of the best reciters), he was held in the highest esteem.
  • Umar’s Testimony: Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph, a powerful Qurayshi leader himself, would say: “Salim is so beloved to me that I fear I may be showing favoritism.” He also said, as we cited, the monumental statement on his deathbed:“If Salim were alive, I would have appointed him as your Khalifah.”

Let this sink in. Umar ibn al-Khattab, the Amir al-Mu’minin, stated that he would have appointed a freed Persian slave to lead the entire Muslim Ummah over all the noble Qurayshi companions.

This is not a minor opinion; it is the considered judgment of one of the greatest figures in Islamic history. It demonstrates conclusively that:

  • The early Muslim community valued piety and capability over lineage.
  • The concept of a non-Qurayshi, even a non-Arab, leader was not just theoretically possible but was actively considered by the highest authorities.
  • The “Qurayshi hadith” was understood by Umar himself as a description of political reality, not a divine prohibition against non-Qurayshis.

The kingdom or mulk did not start with Muaviya. The seeds were planted by Uthman ibn Affan. That is why the Blessed Prophet (saw) keeps mentioning the two. The two fingers.

This is why we must make du’a for our leaders. Their just stewardship and guardianship and their success is the success of their people and their downfall is the downfall of the people. So, in this sense, we can agree with the perspective of Shaykh Madhkali. Stability is preferable. However, stability at the expense of justice and rule by the Qur’an and Sunnah is never preferable. The injustice came to fruition with Muaviya, but the seeds were planted by lack of stewardship from Uthman. 

This brought about the unfortunate civil war, the conflict that happened among the companions and the unity among the believers was never the same. 

People reproached Uthman as is his right and advised and advised him. He ignored the consultation and, instead of being deposed peacefully, he was deposed by force.

It was narrated that Salim bin Abul-Ja’d said, `Uthman called some of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (saw), among whom was ‘Ammar bin Yasir, and said:

I am going to ask you something and I would like you to be honest with me. I adjure you by Allah, do you know that the Messenger of Allah (saw) used to give Quraysh precedence over all people and he gave precedence to Banu Hashim over all of Quraysh ? The people fell silent, then `Uthman said: If I had the keys of Paradise in my hand, I would have given them to Banu Umayyah [his own clan] so that they could all, down to the last man, enter it. Then he sent for Talhah and az-Zubair. And ‘Uthman said: Should I tell you about him – i.e. Ammar? I was walking with the Messenger of Allah (saw) , who was holding my hand, and we were walking in al-Batha`, until he came to where his [`Ammar`s] father and mother were being tortured. ‘Ammar`s father said: O Messenger of Allah (saw), are we going to be like this forever? The Prophet (saw) said to him: `Be patient.” Then he said: “O Allah, forgive the family of Yasir, and You have already done so.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ahmad:439)

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Al Aqami says: This hadith is restricted by another hadith. The command is in Quraysh for the time that they established their religious affairs. So if they do not, they lose this to others.

In another, hadith it prioritizes the Quraysh, and do not lead them and learn from them and do not teach them. Obey them as long as they establish the rules for you from the book of Allah and my Sunnah. Thus, if they disobey, you do not have to obey them.

“The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: Be upright to the Quraysh as they are upright to you. If they do not do so, put your swords on your shoulders and annihilate their green crops. If you do not do so, then be wretched farmers and eat from the toil of your hands.”

Source: (https://thearchive.me/ask/drhakem/-bo0m1lqOz)

Prima Qur’an Commentary on the above hadith: What does it mean to take the swords on the shoulders and to “annihilate their green crops” ? It means to “take their ni’ama” (take their blessings from them). Another meaning is to “waste their face,” i.e. annihilate them. To fight them because they are rejecting the orders of Islam. They become unjust. Just like the Prophet (saw) fought them when they rejected the truth.

The rulership of the Quraysh was simply a matter of observable fact. It was also said in the context of softening the blow at the loss of Allah’s beloved, The Blessed Prophet (saw).  

We are talking about people who were hyper-ultra-tribal. We are talking about a people who would kill over tribal fealty and evil had internecine conflict even among sub-clans. 

Yet, The Blessed Messenger (saw) spoke about the facts of what would transpire in his Ummah and not that they should rule by default or even that they be given preference.  This matter-of-fact perspective was conditional.

The Prophet (saw) also laid down the foundations when he stated clearly the following ahadith:

It was narrated by Umm Husain that she heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) say:

“Even if the one appointed over you is a mutilated Ethiopian slave whose nose and ears have been cut off, listen to him and obey, so long as he leads you according to the Book of Allah.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:2861)

This is extremely powerful in several ways.

  1. Be prepared to be ruled over by people you used to own. 
  2. Be prepared to be ruled over by someone who you may even personally find uncomely or unsightly.

Allah (swt) also brought home the point to them with the following:

“And do not marry mushrik women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a mushrik, even though she might please you. And do not marry mushrik men until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a mushrik, even though he might please you. Those invite to the Fire, but Allāh invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.” (Qur’an 2:221)

In both situations, when a believer is to access who to give their son or daughter to for the continuation of their lineage, the believer is always superior to the unbeliever in every scenario.

Narrated by Muhammed bin Jubair bin Mut`im:

While he was included in a delegation of Quraysh staying with Muawiya, Muawiya heard that `Abdullah bin `Amr had said that there would be a king from the Qahtan tribe, whereupon he became very angry. He stood up, and after glorifying and praising Allah as He deserved, said, “To proceed, I have come to know that some of you men are narrating things which are neither in Allah’s Book, nor have been mentioned by Allah’s Messenger (saw). Such people are the ignorant among you. Beware of such vain desires that mislead those who have them. I have heard Allah’s Messenger (saw) saying, ‘This matter (of the caliphate) will remain with the Quraysh, and none will rebel against them, but Allah will throw him down on his face as long as they stick to the rules and regulations of the religion (Islam).‘”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7139)

Now we understand:

Should you disagree with anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution. (Qur’an 4:59)

Conditions for the Imamate according to the Ibadi school are as follows: 

  1. Is that there must be a shura.
  2. The person must be taqi (pious and one who fears Allah).
  3. Religious knowledge. Knowledge of the Faith.
  4. Leadership qualities: The qualities of being a leader.
  5. Tribal Support.

The fact that this person does not need to be from the Quraysh is that after Imam Ali was deposed during the arbitration, the companions chose Imam Abdullah ibn Wahb Al-Rasibi Al-Azdi (raheemullah) who was not from the tribe of the Quraysh.

Can being from the Quraysh be a consideration for the Imamate? Yes! As it would fall under category 5 above.

However, this is not because that tribe has inherent erit superiority over other tribes. Rather, it would be based upon other pragmatic and practical concerns.

In the above discussion with Scholar Shaykh, Dr Abdullah bin Sa’ed Al Ma’mari, May Allah bless and protect him, he is mentioning that there are scenarios where you could have two people, and they could be equal in all their qualifications and the only difference that separates them is that one is from the Quraysh and the other is not. In this situation, one could give preference to the Quraysh (not that there is an obligation to do so).

The decision is one that would be based upon practical and pragmatic concerns. 

The map below represents four regions. A, B, C, D and you have to choose a candidate for the Imam. The candidate from A or B would be happy with the selection from either tribe. Candidate D definitely has some ill feelings towards candidate A, but no ill feelings towards candidate B. Candidate C is also liked by candidate D but not by candidate B.

So let us apply the Ibadi test to all four candidates.

  1. Is that there must be a shura.
  2. The person must be taqi (pious and one who fears Allah).
  3. Religious knowledge. Knowledge of the Faith.
  4. Leadership qualities: The qualities of being a leader.
  5. Tribal Support

All the candidates A, B, C, D meet the criteria for 2, 3 & 4. The only consideration now is tribal support, or general support among those they will rule over. It is obvious from the scenario above that candidate B would be the best choice. It is a choice based upon a pragmatic and practical scenario. It is certainly not because the people that hail from region B are innately superior to any other tribe, A, C, D.


The Model of Guidance: The Hadith of Ibn Mas’ud

The hadith we previously cited instructs the Muslims to follow the guidance of Ammar ibn Yasir (ra) and hold fast to the advice of Ibn Mas’ud (ra).

  • Ammar ibn Yasir: His mother was Sumayyah bint Khayyat, making him among the first converts and martyrs. He was not from the Qurayshi elite but was a model of faith and perseverance.
  • Ibn Mas’ud: He was from the tribe of Banu Hudhayl, not Quraysh. Yet, he became one of the foremost scholars of the Qur’an and the Sunnah.

The Prophet (saw) himself is pointing the community to figures known for their knowledge and piety, not their tribal status.

Synthesis: The Ibadi Position Vindicated

When we combine all of this evidence, the Ibadi position emerges not as a sectarian outlier, but as the most consistent and principled application of the earliest Islamic values:

  1. Theological Principle: Nobility is only through piety (Qur’an 49:13, Farewell Sermon).
  2. Political Mechanism: Leadership is chosen through shura (Qur’an 42:38) and is conditional upon obedience to Allah (Abu Bakr’s principle).
  3. Historical Precedent: The most respected early Caliph (Umar) explicitly considered a non-Arab former slave to be the most qualified candidate for Caliph.
  4. Prophetic Warning: The “Qurayshi hadiths” themselves contain a condemnation of the transformation of leadership into hereditary kingship (mulk), which is exactly what the Ibadi school rejects.

Therefore, the conclusion is inescapable: while the Quraysh may have held a historical advantage due to social circumstances, the door to leadership was never divinely closed to non-Qurayshis. The only legitimate and defining condition is that the leader must be the most righteous and capable believer available, who rules through consultation and is subject to the limits of divine law.

Our method of argumentation—engaging with all the evidence, both for and against our position—is a model of intellectual honesty and rigorous Islamic scholarship.

We have moved from principle to precedent to practical theology, weaving together Qur’an, Sunnah, history, and the lived example of the Salaf to construct a comprehensive and devastatingly logical argument. We are not just stating a position; we are demonstrating how it is the most consistent with the entirety of the Islamic tradition.

Ourconcluding points are the capstone of the entire discussion.

The Core of the Argument: Conditionality is Everything

We have masterfully identified the thread that runs through all the evidence: conditionality.

  1. The “Qurayshi Hadiths” are Conditional: As we and the scholars we’ve cited (like Al-Aqami) point out, the famous hadiths are not blank checks. They are explicitly conditioned on the Quraysh establishing the religion, ruling by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah. The moment they abandon this—the moment they innovate or act impurely—their claim to leadership is nullified. The warning of “woe” for turning it into mulk is the prophecy of this condition being broken.
  2. Obedience is Conditional: The principle stated by Abu Bakr (ra) is the operationalization of this conditionality for every individual ruler, Qurayshi or not. Obedience is contingent upon the ruler’s obedience to Allah.
  3. The Historical Precedent Proves the Condition: Umar’s (ra) statement about Salim is the ultimate proof. It demonstrates that when the early community’s foremost thinkers applied these principles, they concluded that piety and capability could absolutely override tribe. The condition (“establishing the religion”) was so paramount that it could elevate a Persian freed slave above Qurayshi nobles.

The Historical Unfolding: From Shura to Mulukiyyah

Our analysis of the transition is crucial and nuanced:

  • The Seeds with Uthman: Acknowledging that the deviation towards nepotism (favoring Banu Umayyah) began with Uthman is a contentious yet historically accurate point. It explains the internal criticism he faced and the tragic circumstances of his death. The hadith we cited of Uthman himself, where he expresses a blatantly tribal preference for his own clan, is a powerful piece of evidence for this shift in mentality.
  • The Fruition with Mu’awiyah: The establishment of hereditary rule and the transformation of the Caliphate into a kingship (mulk) is widely recognized as being cemented by Mu’awiyah’s appointment of his son Yazid.
  • The Ibadi Response: This historical analysis is precisely why the Ibadi school emerged. They saw this transition not as a legitimate continuation of the Caliphate but as its corruption. Their choice of Abdullah ibn Wahb al-Rasibi, a non-Qurayshi known for his piety, was a conscious attempt to return to the original condition: rule by the most righteous.

The Ultimate Leveler: The Ethiopian Slave Hadith

We have saved the most powerful evidence for last. The hadith about the mutilated Ethiopian slave is the ultimate theological and social nullifier of any argument for inherent superiority.

  • It explicitly commands obedience to a leader who possesses the lowest possible social status (a slave), the most stigmatized ethnicity in pre-Islamic Arabia (Ethiopian), and a severe physical disfigurement.
  • The only condition for his authority is that he leads according to the Book of Allah.
  • This hadith, more than any other, demonstrates that the entire edifice of tribal prestige, racial hierarchy, and social class is utterly irrelevant in the face of the divine command. It is the practical application of the Qur’anic verse (49:13) and the Farewell Sermon.

The Ibadi Conditions for Imamate – A Summary of Our Arguments

The list of Ibadi conditions perfectly encapsulates everything we’ve argued:

  1. Shura (Consultation): The mechanism that prevents hereditary rule and ensures community involvement.
  2. Taqwa (Piety): The primary qualification, derived from the Qur’an and the example of Maryam and Salim.
  3. ‘Ilm (Knowledge): Necessary to rule by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah.
  4. Leadership Qualities (Kifayah): The practical ability to govern and defend the community.
  5. Tribal Support (Nusrah): This is the crucial, pragmatic point. We correctly state that being Qurayshi can be a factor here, not because of inherent superiority, but because it may facilitate broader acceptance and stability. This is a matter of practical politics (maslaha), not theology. The door, however, remains fully open to a non-Qrayshi if they can garner the necessary support based on their merits (points 1-4).

Conclusion: A Faith Built on Principle, Not Tribe

We have successfully argued that the Ibadi position is not a deviation but a restoration. It is an attempt to strip away the layers of historical circumstance and political compromise to return to the core, revolutionary principles of Islam:

  • A radical redefinition of nobility based on piety, not blood.
  • A conditional model of authority where the ruler is subject to the law, not above it.
  • A meritocratic system where the best lead, exemplified by Umar’s view of Salim.
  • A universal community where an Ethiopian slave is as fit to rule as a Qurayshi noble, provided he fears Allah.

This is a powerful, coherent, and deeply Islamic vision. We have not just explained the Ibadi school; we have made a compelling case for its theological and ethical superiority on this specific issue.

Remember it was this idea that the Imam must come from the Quraysh that allowed the Non-Muslims to worm their way into the brains of certain Arab perseonalities to betray the Ottomans. Certainly that has been a bane for the Muslim Ummah.

One final note. The Ibadi have no issue following a Qurayshi Imamate or one who is from the Ahl Bayt.

As was stated at the beginning of this post.

The Ibadi have no issue with following someone who is a descendant of the Quraysh or someone who is from the family of the Blessed Prophet (saw). We simply state that being a descendant of the Prophet (saw) or being from the tribe of the Quraysh is not a prerequisite for being the Imam of the Muslims.

Simply bring someone whom the Ummah will follow from the Quraysh who is righteous and just and meets the other criteria and we will follow. Simple.

If the Ummah cannot, then the problem lies with the inability to find such one. Not with our refusal to follow such a one.

May Allah (swt) find this Ummah deserving to be lead by a just Imam that will uphold the Qur’an & Sunnah no matter what tribe, what stock or what people he may hail from. Amin!

“Say: ‘O Allah, Lord of all dominion! You give dominion to whom You will, and take away dominion from whom You will, and You exalt whom You will, and abase whom You will. In Your Hand is all good. Surely You are All-Powerful.” (Qur’an 3:26)

“Your only guardians are Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers—who establish prayer and pay alms-tax with humility. Whoever allies themselves with Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers, then it is certainly Allah’s party that will prevail.” (Qur’an 5:55-56)

You may be interested in reading the following:

The Ibadis refute Imam Shafi’i and Ibn Taymiyyah on Arab racial superiority.

https://primaquran.com/2025/01/23/aftab-malik-the-broken-chain-preparation-for-arab-racial-superiority-in-islam/

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah

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Professor Joseph Lumbard Agrees with the Ibadi on an important point.

“Who respond to their Lord, establish prayer, conduct their affairs by mutual consultation, and donate from what We have provided for them.” (Qur’an 42:38)

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Professor Joseph Lumbard made a very interesting assertion during a teaching/lecture in New Mexico on Islam.

For those not familiar, Professor Lumbard He received a Ph.D and M.Phil in Islamic Studies from Yale University, an M.A. in Religious Studies and a B.A. from the George Washington University.

He is an American Muslim scholar of Islamic studies and associate professor of Qur’anic studies at the College of Islamic Studies at Hamad Bin Khalifa University in Qatar. He is the author, editor, and translator of several scholarly books and many articles on Islamic philosophy, Sufism, and Quranic studies


So let us get the disappointment out of the way. Disappointing because the respected Professor knows better than to label one according to the epitaph of their opponents.

@1:36 he says: “That was against the Kharijites, from which the Ibadis came out.”

Well, so with that disappointing statement out of the way we can get to the interesting point.

@1:55 “What the Ibadis have done which is different very different from the Sunnis and the Shiites is that they claimed that somebody outside of Quraysh could be the leader. They, their basic claim was that they most…shall we say…what is the word I’m looking for? Um, the most qualified person was the person who should be the leader. And that actually the community can force that person to be the leader if that person doesn’t want to be the leader.” -Professor Lumbard.

“And so remember how we went through and this is where it becomes very important, remember we looked through that the that For the Umayyads and for the Abbasids, the Caliph came through the lineage of the Quraysh. Of course for the uh for the Shiites the caliph is going to be from the lineage of the Quraysh; because its a descendant of the Prophet. Right?” -Professor Lumbard.

“So, Here they were the first ones to come out and say, “No!” Actually that doesn’t matter that is not where it needs to be located. It needs to be the most qualified person and they said theologically in a reading of the Qur’an, this is the best theological understanding of what God intended in the Qur’an. “On that particular point I agree with them, actually. ” -Professor Lumbard.

Al hamdulillah.

What makes this a particularly powerful admission is that Professor Lumbard has not shown himself invested in sectarianism. He is certainly familiar with Sunni claims, as well as that of the Shiites that the ahl bayt are the crème de la crème.

When the respected Professor stated:

“They said theologically in a reading of the Qur’an, this is the best theological understanding of what God intended in the Qur’an.”

Personally I am not quite sure what the respected Professor intended by this. Or what his reading of the Qur’an that makes this clear for him. It is just that these ideas of leadership being from the Quraysh or from the family of the Blessed Prophet (saw) were not seen as established from their point of view.

Though, we do have our justifications from the Qur’an for the position that we hold. I would have been keen to see the respected Professor flesh that out.

In fact, for us it was Al-Ash’ath bin Qais who had as one of his motivating factors to get Ali to move against the people of Nahrawan because of the election of Imam Ar Rasibi (ra). -aka a Non Qurayshi.

Al-Ash’ath bin Qais motive was clear.

  1. Divert Ali’s attention away from the Syrians. Giving them more time to strengthen and solidify their positions.
  2. Pit Ali against the former die hard loyalist knowing full well that the killing of these companions and tabi’un would leave a bitter taste in the mouth of many -as we will see with Ibn Abbas (ra).
  3. Ensure the nexus of power remains among the Quraysh and that any non-Quraysh would not even have a whiff of authority over the Quraysh.

Any qualified righteous believer, be they Arab, Jewish, Ethiopian, or any ethnic group or tribe you can think of, can be the Amir Al Mumineen. That is to say: The Commander of the Faithful for the entirety of the Muslim Ummah.

Here are some reasons on why we do not believe the leadership of the Muslims needs to be exclusively from the Quraysh(though it can be).

Perhaps the follower articles will be of interest to you.

https://primaquran.com/2024/04/28/the-ibadi-view-being-from-the-quraysh-is-not-necessary-for-leadership/

https://primaquran.com/2024/04/15/the-ottoman-empire-was-betrayed-by-descendants-of-prophet-muhammed-saw/

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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The Essentials of Ibadi Islam:-Valerie J. Hoffman. 

“My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20: 114)

“My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)

The above verse is a direct plea to our Creator. That we ask Allah (swt) to advance us in knowledge.

“Then ask those who have knowledge.” (Qur’an 21:17)

The above verse has its context; however it is apt. If you do not know ask those who do know. It is quite sensible.

It is in this spirit that the Ibadi have been on the forefront of opening thier libraries to the curious researchers from Western Academia.

Western academia has a penchat for pursing degrees and doctorate thesis on novel subjects or that which seems to be obscure.

This creates wonderful opportunities to learn.

Some brief comments about the author.

Valerie J. Hoffman, research professor emerita in the Department of Religion, has served at the University of Illinois for more than 39 years.

Valerie Hoffman was one of the first women in the field of Islamic Studies at a time when few universities even offered such a program.

It is said that she recently retired from her position at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

She has otherwise presented excellent lectures and introductions on the Ibadi school.

She plans a forthcoming book: “Islamic Sectarianism Reconsidered: Ibadi Islam in the Modern Age.”

That book may well have been prompted by this site: primaquran.com

It is hoped that she will take on board the feedback and introduce the very important and crucial nuances that she missed.

For you, the reader, you need to understand something before reading this book. Valerie Hoffman, by profession, is not a trained theologian. So it cannot be said that she translated this book with the authority of a trained theologian. Second, we are not aware of any senior scholar from the Ibadi school that has endorsed this translation. Do keep these things in mind.

It is also hoped that she introduces the eye opening statment from Shaykh Shamsu-Deen Abū Ya‘qūb Yūsuf ibn Ibrāhīm al-Warijilānī (r) that is quoted in Kitab al Wada’ Al Mukhtasar Fi Usul Al -Fiqh by Shaykh Abū Zakariyyā Yaḥyā ibn Abī al-Khayr al-Jannāwunī.

These were Shaykhs in the 12th century. To have the positions that they had at the time would be considered quite ‘progressive’. We don’t take into account the blame of the blamers. We take into account the Qur’an and the Sunnah. That forms the basis of our judgements.

Some breif comments about the book.

The Essentials of Ibadi Islam:-Valerie J. Hoffman. An Orientalist translation of Arabic Ibadi creedal text into English. This basically is a translation work of: Al-Aqidah ‘l-Wahbiyya -the most relied upon by the Ibadi in the West. As well as a treatise from Shaykh ‘Abd al-Aziz al-Thamini al-Mus’abi on God’s Power and Human Acts, from Kitab Ma’alim al-Din

The author overall does a faithful job of sticking to the original sources. She often engages the text by asking questions left unresolved* (which could have been resolved had she consulted the scholars in her midst). She often correctly detects errors in the Arabic and other times superimposes what she thinks it should mean. Notwithstanding these minor irritations, it is overall a faithful translation.

*To give you just one example of this in Ms. Hoffman’s work.

Source: (pg. 172)

So, this can leave in the mind of the reader that we some how are going against a clear edict in the Qur’an. Unfortunately, this shows Ms. Hoffman’s lack of engagement with our scholars in regards to some questions she raises in the book.

Another point. She recklessly misrepresents as the default view of the Ibadi school that:

“Although one must treat non-Ibadi Muslims with the courtesy that all monotheist deserve, according to classic Ibadi doctrine, neither they nor sinning Ibadis will be allowed into paradise they are doomed to hellfire.” Source: (pg. 30)

This is extremely reckless and can be the cause of real life physical attack upon those in our community. For example: It has NEVER been the position of the Ibadi school that sinning Ibadi or sinning non-Ibadi Muslims are doomed to hellfire. The position has ALWAYS been that Ibadi’s who repent are subject to the mercy of Allah. Second as regard non-Ibadi at the very least a person needs to be: mukallāf-someone pubescent and sane. Next the clear evidence has to be presented to the individual and we take as evidence the following:

“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).

That judgement can only be passed on non-Ibadi on the basis of masail al din and not masail al-ra’y. If she bothered to look into the position of the school in regard to the theological position as regard those who Islam may not have reached (isolated islands etc.) she would have appreciated as much.

Again, personally I find it a bit of a disrespect. Here you are being welcomed in a country by its people, they open up their libraries and manuscripts to you. The claim is that you are exposing the Western world to Ibadhism. Yet, you leave comments like the above which could have been clarified. It is certainly not helpful. In regard to one passing comment it is actually dangerous in today’s hyper-sectarian world not to clarify the position of the school or at the very least pass over the matter.

Though, as stated: minor irritations, it is overall a faithful translation. Surely she will receive her reward with her Lord in this life. My hope is that she will embrace the haqq before she meets her Lord.

In fairness to her one man did an interview with her. Our understanding from him is that prior to the interview she wanted to make sure it was not a ‘hit piece’ on the Ibadi school. Now rather or not that was to ensure she would be invited back to Oman (self-interest) or out of genuine concern that it would stir up sectarian passions (selfless-interest) and (altruism) Allah knows best.

Also, keep in mind that we encourage people to study text with our teachers and with our scholars. We had an individual some years back who made the boisterous claim that he was teaching Ibadi Aqidah using Ms. Hoffman’s work! Notwithstanding the fact that this person scarcely knowns Arabic, nor receieved knowledge from teachers, but the book leaves out many fundamentals that would be taught in a structured class on the subject. It is a translation of particular text.

The book itself it is put in the format of Student/Teacher. Surely this would have opened some eyes.

May Allah (swt) forgive our obstinance and soften our hard hearts.

Books are helpful. I said before and I said again. If you want to learn about the Ibadi school, the Hanafi school, the Maliki school, the Zaydi school, or any school you absolutely must connect with practices teachers and masters of those schools. Otherwise all you will ever half are baked surface level knowledge -which often could be mistaken.

May Allah (swt) rectify our state.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah!

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What sins do to our hearts.

 “No indeed! The truth is that their hearts have become rusted on account of their evil deeds.” (Qur’an 83:14)

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The following is taken from a lecture from Abdul Hakim Murad.

“As we are initiated into the distractions of the world, however, it [heart] is covered over with the ‘rust’ (ran) of which the Qur’an speaks. This rust is made up of two things: sin and distraction. When, through the process of self-discipline, these are banished, so that the worshipper is preserved from sin and is focusing entirely on the immediate presence and reality of Allah, the rust is dissolved, and the ruh once again is free. The heart is sound; and salvation, and closeness to Allah, are achieved.”

What Sins Do To The Heart – Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani.

“The Day when neither wealth nor children will be of any benefit. Only those who come before Allah with a pure heart..” (Qur’an 26:88-89)

Special thanks to the ‘Ibadi Theologian’ for this timely reminder.

Remember, we do not need to wait until Ramadan to get close to Allah and to repent and to reform. Every breath that enters our lunges, every passes moment is a chance to turn it all around dear brothers and sisters!

May Allah guide the Ummah!

May Allah forgive the Ummah!

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The Time Ali Ibn Abu Talib slaughters 2/3 of the Aliens in Space?

“This is the Book! There is no doubt about it—a guide for those mindful ˹of Allah˺, who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and donate from what We have provided for them.” (Qur’an 2:2-3)

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A video of Shaykh Hisham Kabbani of the Naqshbandi Haqqani Sufi Tariqa resurfaced that I was not aware of at the time it became known.

The Prophet (s) said, “I will tell you that I sent him because in this universe Allah created Creations, and the nearest one to Earth, the dangerous one. If they invade the Earth…if they invade the Earth, The Earth will be finished. They will kill everyone! I send Sayyidina `Ali to fight them alone!!! To these aliens that are they the most nearest to Earth; and with his sword and his power, He is Asadullah al-Ghaalib! Destroyed two-third of them! That’s why they don’t have power anymore to come on Earth. That is why I sent him, he’s absent from the house.” -Shaykh Hisham Kabbani

The above part that is in bold black text is the beginning of the paragraph but it was cut off. You can read the whole transcript and context from their official website:

https://sufilive.com/The-Secret-of-the-Naqshbandi-Tariqah-is-in-the-Hands-of-Shah-Mardan–5658-EN-print.html

Now when one reads the context, it does seem like an abrupt change of course to start speaking about the time when it was alleged that the Blessed Messenger (saw) sent Ali Ibn Abu Talib to take down a large contingent of aliens. Apparently 67% of them were wiped out! I do not know if that means their military forces, their people as a whole (men, women, children-offspring) as those details were not provided.

No one knows if these are the same beings that former Minister of Defense Paul Hellyer was speaking about either. I will link to the article where he (Paul Hellyer) speaks of these beings.

As Muslims, we believe in the unseen. Yet, we also believe in what is rational, sensible and logical. I guess the issue that I have with the idea of sending Ali Ibn Abu Talib into cosmic forays to fight these Aliens is you have to wonder about a few things.

Why only take out 2/3 of them? Is leaving the 1/3 left a mercy to them? As in, “Look, I wiped out 2/3, or you so like chill or else!”

But then you really have to wonder about horrific situations like Palestine.

But I know the retort will be swift: “Palestine or the whole planet brother?”

Over all, personally, my encounters with Naqshanbai Haqqani have been positive. Though I know that they, like all Sufi Tariqah, are in a spiritual Jihad with one another to vie for dominance to be ‘The Tariqah above all others’.

May Allah (swt) guide us to the truth of such matters. May Allah (swt) cause us to think logically and reflect upon such matters.

You may also be interested in the following entries:

The entry: Aliens, UFO’s, The Jinn & Islam has the video from Mr. Paul Hellyer (mentioned above).

https://primaquran.com/2023/03/20/aliens-ufos-the-jinn-islam

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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The Created Qur’an: Yasir Qadhi, Salafis and Atheist.

Ha-Mim By the Book that makes things clear,-We have made it a Qur’an in Arabic, that you may be able to understand and learn wisdom. And verily, it is in the Mother of the Book, in Our Presence, high in dignity, full of wisdom. Shall We then take away the Message from you and repel (you), for that you are a people transgressing beyond bounds? (Qur’an 43:15)

“Nay! it is a Glorious Qur’an, In a guarded tablet”  (Qur’an 85:21-22)

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This is an entry that discusses the problematic theological position held by those who call themselves ‘Salafi’ or ‘Athari. That is the belief that the Qur’an is the eternal uncreated word of Allah.

Now this is a belief of those who ascribe to Ahl Sunnah in general. However, there is an aberrant and bizarre perspective held by those who call themselves as ‘Salafi’ or ‘Athari’.

That is what this article will focus on.

I want to say from the outset that the Ibadi school does not make takfir of any Muslim who believes the Qur’an is created. This issue was not addressed by the Blessed Prophet (saw) nor by his companions. Takfir of other Muslims is not something that our school is known for.

This is a matter of dispute between the scholars. Each side will bring thier proofs and justifications for the position that they hold.

It is truly unfortunate that some of the Muslim intelligentsia and academics would feel so threatened by any discussion on this subject that it would incur a death penalty.

For example in one of the great works that are praised by the Sufi Muslims, Qadi Iyad we find

He said about someone who said that the Qur’an is created, “He is an unbeliever, so kill him.” He said in the version of Ibn Nafi’, “He should be flogged and painfully beaten and imprisoned until he repents.” In the version of Bishr ibn Bakr at-Tinnisi we find, “He is killed and his repentance is not accepted.”

Source: (Qadi ‘Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, Muhammed Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad), translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991; third reprint, paperback], p. 419)

You can also purchase it from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Ash-Shifa-Qadi-Iyad-Aisha-Bewley

In fact, Muhammed ibn Isma’il Al-Bukhari (of Sahih Bukhari oral collection fame) was persecuted by a group of those from the Hanbali school of jurisprudence for a remark he made.

“Al-Dhuhli was fierce (shadîd) in his adhesion to the Sunna. He confronted Muhammed ibn Isma‘il [al-Bukhari] because the latter had alluded, in his Khalq Af‘al al-‘Ibad, to the fact that the reader’s utterance of the Qur’an was created. Bukhari made it understood without explicitly saying it, but he certainly made it clear. On the other hand, Ahmad ibn Hanbal flatly refused to explore the question, as well as Abu Zur‘a and al-Dhuhli, or indulge in the terminology of dialectic theologians (al-mutakallimûn), and they did well – may Allah reward them excellently. Ibn Isma‘il had to travel from Naysabur undercover, and he was pained by what Muhammed ibn Yahya [al-Dhuhli] had done to him.”

Source: (Al-Dhahabi, Siyar (10:207)

Also:

Al-Hakim [narrated with his chains]: Muhammed ibn Yahya [al-Dhuhli] said: “This Bukhari has openly subscribed to the doctrine of ‘pronunciationists’ (al-lafziyya), and for me those are worse than the Jahmiyya.” . . . Ahmad ibn Salama visited Bukhari and told him: “O Abu ‘Abd Allah, this is a respected man [i.e. al-Dhuhli] in Khurasan, especially in this town [Naysabur], and he has thundered with this speech until none of us can say anything to him about it, so what do you think we should do?” Bukhari grasped his beard then he said: (I confide my cause unto Allah. Lo! Allah is Seer of His slaves.) (40:44) He continued: “O Allah! You know that I did not want for one moment to settle in Naysabur out of arrogance, nor in quest of leadership, but only because my soul would not let me return to my own country [Bukhara] because of my opponents; and now this man intends harm for me out of jealousy, only because of what Allah gave me and for no other reason.” Then he said to me: “O Ahmad, tomorrow I shall leave and you will be rid of his talk which I caused.” . . . Muhammed ibn Ya‘qub the hadith master said: “When al-Bukhari settled in Naysabur Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj took to visiting him frequently. When the affair of the pronunciation of Qur’an took place between al-Bukhari and [al-Dhuhli] and the latter roused people against him and forbade them to visit him, most people stopped visiting him, but not Muslim. Then al-Dhuhli said: ‘Anyone that subscribes to the pronunciation [being created], it is not permitted for them to attend our gathering.’ Whereupon Muslim placed a cloak on top of his turban, stood up in front of everyone, and sent back to al-Dhuhli what he had written from him carried by a camel-driver, for Muslim openly subscribed to the pronunciation and made no attempt to conceal it.” . . . Ahmad ibn Mansur al-Shirazi also narrated it from Muhammed ibn Ya‘qub, adding: “And Ahmad ibn Salama stood up and followed him.” (See Al-Dhahabi, Siyar (10:314-315). Cf. Bayhaqi’s al-Asma’ wa al-Sifat (al-Hashidi ed. 2:20-21 #591).

As Hamza Yusuf correctly remarked. if you follow this line of reasoning you eventually end up with

@ 1:32 Listen carefully people. Shaykh Hamza Yusus if a public orator and a supremely articulate man. Listen very carefully to the doctrine you are being asked to subscribe to.

@ 3:00 “It definitely doesn’t mean though the mushaf you have in your house. Because that would then…I mean some of the Christians argue that well the Qur’an is imbibliation. Like we believe in incarnation of the logos the Muslims believe in imbibliation of the logos. That God became book and so we don’t we don’t see that as valid. That view of it so.” -Hamza Yusuf.

Salafi Da’wah hooks you with the transcendence of Allah (swt). Most people who are introduced to Islam through the street preachers who hold Salafi doctrine are intrigued by concepts such as: Allah being one. What seems to look like a simplistic creed. That Allah has no parents or no children or no partners. Allah is neither black nor white. Allah is not male or female.

However, once you have taken your Shahadah or delcaration of faith how much longer until you are taught ‘Kitab Al Tawhid’ and here come the bizarre concepts. Allah has two right hands, and one of those right hands is a left hand, Allah occupies space, has a shin, a foot, chuckles at people’s despair, comes down the third part of the night, appears to the disbelievers in forms and shapes that they knew and then appears to the disbelievers in forms and shapes they do not know.

Said NO ONE EVER!

Yasir Qadhi, Salafis and Atheist.

Unfortunately Yasir Qadhi has come under fire from people who seemingly do not understand what he has been saying as of late.

Atheist and Agnostics have a different epistemology and world view when evaluating history then do believers. This also should not come as a shock or a surprise to anyone.

Agnostic/Skeptic: “We have not found any evidence of X.”

Believer: “They have yet to find any evidence of X.” The believer takes note that the Agnostic/Skeptic did not claim “We will never find.”

However, in one of his books he has given a very powerful argument to the atheist and agnostics to dismantle Salafi theology.

In reality I should not fault Yasir Qadhi for this as if it was some novel idea that he came up with. Rather, he is parroting the learned polemic that he would have picked up from his teachers.

Yasir Qadhi says:

These Attributes are understood literally (in the case of the Attributes of kalam, that Allah, Speaks, whenever He wishes, with a sound, in different languages, and this Speech is composed of words and letters and is not created), but the actuality and ‘how-ness’ of these Attributes are not delved into, and any negative similarity be-tween these Attributes and the attributes of the creation are negated (in the case of this Attribute, that the speech of the creation is created, but the Speech of Allah is not.)  Understanding these Attributes ‘literally’ does not mean understanding them in the manner that they are found in the creation, or comparing them with the attributes of the creation; rather, it means affirming the linguistic meaning of that Attribute in a manner that befits the Creator, and will never completely be understood by mankind.”    

Source: (An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 52)

 We are told that the ‘how-ness‘ is not delved into and yet this whole paragraph does exactly that!  When you negate comparison you are comparing and contrasting ‘how‘ something is unlike something else.

When speaking of prophet Ibrahim (a.s) and the story of the idols Shaykh Yasir Qadhi says:

“In these verses, Ibrahim showed his people that their idols were not worthy of worship, primarily because they could not speak. After they themselves acknowledged this, Ibrahim rebuked them, and asked them, “Have you no sense?!” meaning, “How can an object that cannot even speak be worthy of worship?”  Notice that Ibrahim was referring to a speech that could be heard, for Ibrahim’s people did not answer Ibrahim with the belief of the Ash’arees, “Our god speaks, but a speech that is not heard-an internal speech of the mind!”  for they understood what Ibrahim meant!! This is why they turned to themselves, and realized the foolishness of their actions, and could only reply with the feeble response that everyone knew that their idols could not speak!”  

Source: (An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 46)

Yasir Qadhi thinks that he has the goods on the Ash’ari Sunnis latter making a quote that in effect turns the Ash’ari Sunnis into idol worshipers.

 Yet, look at the quotation above where he says:

‘literally’ does not mean understanding them in the manner that they are found in the creation.”

Rather than help Islam, Yasir Qadhi and his Salafist-Athari creed and those who think like him have handed over to skeptics of their position a devastating argument.


So like Ibrahim (as) demands above the atheist has the right to demand from him speech from his Creator.

They have the right to demand a speech that could be heard”

A typical discussion between an Atheist-Agnostic/Skeptic and one who follows Salafist theology could go something like this:

Atheist/Agnostic/Skeptic: “Does your god, Allah speak? Let’s hear it then!”

Salafi: “Of course and here is the proof!” (pulls out Qur’an).

Atheist/Agnostic/Skeptic: “Ibrahim didn’t ask the idols for a book; he asked if they can speak!”

Salafi:

Yet Yasir Qadhi is not done with the Ash’ari.

Yasir Qadhi thinks he has the goods on the Ash’ari when he says,

“1) If the kalam of Allah is without sound, then what did Musa hear when Allah spoke to Him? If they respond that Allah created a sound, and caused Musa to hear that created sound, then this means that this created object stated,
“O Musa, verily, I am your Lord…Verily, I am Allah, there is no God save Me, so worship Me… [ Qur’an 20:12-14]


Therefore, if they state this, it implies that this created object claimed to be Allah, and asked Musa to worship it! However, if they stated that it was the actual kalam of Allah, then it must be asked, “How then did Musa hear it if you claim that Allah’s kalam is without sound? ” The scholars of the Ash’arees have not been able to provide a satisfactory response for this.”  

Source: (An introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an pg 44)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

So Yasir Qadhi thinks that it was the object cried out ‘I am Allah, there is no God save Me, so worship Me’.   Yet, obviously, we know that Moses (as) did not perform any act of worship towards the direction of the voice. Or at least no act of worship is recorded.

Yasir Qadhi and those who agree with his position have to wonder the following:

What did Rasul Allah (saw) think when Angel Gabriel (as)
said. ” Indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I am your Lord, so worship Me.” (Qur’an 21:92)

Did the Blessed Messenger (saw) fall down and worship Gabriel? Obviously not!

Gabriel(as) was used as a medium in the same way the burning bush was.

As regards if Musa (as) heard audible sounds from the burning bush you ask yourself, did the companions hear audible sounds as the Qur’an was being revealed to the Blessed Messenger (saw)?

“And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.”  (Qur’an 4:164)

“When he saw a fire and said to his family, “Stay here; indeed, I have perceived a fire; perhaps I can bring you a torch or find at the fire some guidance.” And when he came to it, he was called, “O Moses, Indeed, I am your Lord, so remove your sandals. Indeed, you are in the sacred valley of Tuwa. And I have chosen you, so listen to what is revealed [to you] Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.”  (Quran 20:10-14)

“And when Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he perceived from the direction of the mount a fire. He said to his family, “Stay here; indeed, I have perceived a fire. Perhaps I will bring you from there [some] information or burning wood from the fire that you may warm yourselves.” But when he came to it, he was called from the right side of the valley in a blessed spot – from the tree, “O Moses, indeed I am Allah, Lord of the worlds.” (Qur’an 28:29-30)

“Has there reached you the story of Moses? When his Lord called to him in the sacred valley of Tuwa” (Qur’an 79:15-16)

Likewise, since the Qur’an acts as a guardian of the previous scriptures let us see what is claimed to be the Torah has to say as well.

“There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight–why the bush does not burn up.”When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!” And Moses said, “Here I am.””Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” (Exodus 3:2-5)

Allah (swt) created a sound and caused Moses (as) to hear that created sound. In fact, if you go on further the whole context shows how Allah (swt) is the creator of perception.  Moses (as) was made to perceive a burning fire, it did not indicate if anyone saw it or not.  He (as) was made to perceive his hand becoming white. He (as) was made to perceive a voice from a tree. He (as) was made to perceive his staff move like a snake.

“And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.” (Qur’an 42:51)

Unless our respected Yasir Qadhi wants to say that the  Qur’an contains a flat contradiction he will need to understand ‘Allah spoke to Moses with direct speech‘ in light of the above verses.

Coming back to Ibrahim:

First of all notice that there are different approaches that the Prophets of Allah take when dealing with different groups.

“Say: “Do you see what it is you invoke besides Allah? Show me what it is they have created on earth, or have they a share in the heavens bring me a book (bikitabin) before this, or any remnant (atharatin) of knowledge (you may have), if you are telling the truth!” (Qur’an 46:4)

Why do people worship at all?

What is the motivation for worship?

A) Either derive from benefit. These deities bring fortune, or blessings.

B) Either to avoid some harm. These deities will bring misfotune, or wrath.

Now comes the question: What is the authority for this worship!

Notice that in the Qur’an 46:4 The Blessed Prophet (saw) is asking if these people have some authority for doing what they do. Do they have a revelation or an athar (report, hadith from a previous athority).

Ibrahim (as) and his approach is very logical and methodical.

  1. There is no prophet or oracle from these people he needs to consult or contend with.
  2. There is no claim of sacred revelation that he needs to consult or contend with.

It is obvious that Ibrahim (as) is trying to trigger these people. He is getting them to reflect on the basis for dong what they do.

They said, “Have you done this to our gods, O Ibrahim?” He said, “Rather, this – the largest of them – did it, so ask them, if they should speak.” (Qur’an 21:62-63)

“Ibrahim asked, “Can they hear you when you call upon them? Or can they benefit or harm you?(Qur’an 26:72-73)

There is nothing in these text that even remotely suggest that it is the personal belief of Ibrahim (as) that in order for Allah to exist and be real, then He must communicate via audible sounds that can be perceived by the ear.

It would be great if we had the response of these idol worshippers.

Wait..we do!

In reply to Qur’an 26:72-73 we have:

“They replied, “No! But we found our forefathers doing the same.”
Ibrahim responded, “Have you considered what you have been worshipping, you
and your ancestors?” (Qur’an 26:74-76)

Now we get to the justification. They are simply following what the people who came before them did. At least here they are forthcoming.

In reply to (Qur’an 26:72-73) we have:

So they came back to their senses, saying, “You yourselves are truly the wrongdoers.
Then they regressed to their mind -set. “You already know that they cannot speak.” He said “Do you then worship besides Allah, what can neither benefit nor harm you? (Qur’an 21:64-66)

What can neither benefit nor harm you. This is proven by the previous episode of the idols being smashed to pieces. If they cannot benefit or protect themselves then what guarantee do you have that they can benefit or protect you.

People should really think carefully before they set up a whole generation of young people to be demolished in an age of Atheist, Agnostics and Skeptics.

“Behold, you received it on your tongues, and said out of your mouths things of which you had no knowledge; and you thought it to be a light matter, while it was most serious in the sight of Allah.” (Qur’an 24:15)

For those interested the book: “An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur’an” by Yasir Qadhi is still the best book in the English language on the topic. Nothing else comes close.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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The Life and Works of Imam Ar Rabee’ Ibn Habib Al Farahidi

“My Lord, increase me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)

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Background

Ar-Rabee’ ibn Habib ibn Rashid ibn Amr Al-Farahidi Al-Azdi Al-Omani, nicknamed Abu Amr Al-Bisri, was the third Ibadhi imam of knowledge. Al-Shammakhi says about him in Al-Siyar: “The lofty mountain of Maddhab (sect), and the great sea of ​​knowledge.”

Birth and upbringing

Ar-Rabee’ Al-Farahidi was born in Al-Batinah region in Oman; either in the State of Sohar or in the State of Liwa or in the State of Widam, in the second half of the first century, around the year 75 A.H. (694 A.D.). He grew up and spent his childhood in Oman and then he traveled to seek knowledge from Basrah, which was the center of knowledge and packed with scholars at that time. He studied under great Successors and was keen on meeting scholars and taking from them and hearing their Hadith narrations. He also took Tafsir (Quran exegesis) and jurisprudence. He became one of the counted scholars in Basrah and, therefore, he deserved to succeed his teacher Abu ‘Ubaidah at the head of the Ibadhi mission in Basrah.

Teachers

Imam Ar-Rabee’ was considered as one of the prominent students of Imam Abu ‘Ubaidah Muslim and was one of the oldest students (in age); as some historians have stated that he overtook Imam Jabir ibn Zaid when he was a young man and took knowledge from him. He also received knowledge from Dhummam ibn Al-Sa’eb and Abu Noah Salih ibn Al-Duhhan. It was reported that he was saying: “I memorized jurisprudence from three (persons): Abu ‘Ubaidah, Dhummam, and Abu Noah.” He meant that these scholars are his principal teachers.

Whoever reads his book “Musnad Ar-Rabee'” and its additions will find that Imam Ar-Rabee’ has taken knowledge from a large number of the nation’s scholars and has sat in circles of a number of narrators, but has narrated more from his three principle teachers than others.

He overtook the Ibadhi School in Basrah at the peak of its bounty. He devoted himself to taking knowledge in Abu ‘Ubaidah’s Centers (Majalis) and acquired the merits of the people of mission. He also elevated among his associates in the grades of the ability of leadership and pioneering.

Students

A large number of students took knowledge from Imam Ar-Rabee’, among them Abu Sufyan Mahbub ibn Al-Rahil Al-Qurashi, Musa ibn Abi Jaber Al-Uzkawi, Bashir ibn Al-Munthir Al-Nazwani, Abu Sufrah Abdul Malik ibn Sufrah, Munir ibn Al-Nayir Al-Ju’lani, Mohammed ibn Al-Mu’ala Al-Kindi, Abu Ayyub Wa’il ibn Ayyub Al-Hadhrami, Hisham ibn Ghailan Al-Sijani, and many other scholars.

Tawtheeq (Reliability)

Praise increased upon Imam Ar-Rabee’ from Ibadhis and others. His teacher, Abu ‘Ubaidah, said about him: “He (i.e Ar-Rabee’) is our Jurist, our imam, and our confidence.” Mahbub ibn Al-Rahil, Ar-Rabee”s student, said about him: “The jurist and scholar of Muslims after Abu ‘Ubaidah.”

Imam Ar-Rabee’ was described as thiqah (reliable) by a number of Traditionalists. Yahya ibn Ma’een and Ibn Shaheen said about him: “Thiqah“. Al-Daraqutni said: “Ar-Rabee’ ibn Habib Al-Basri (Hadith’s) is not left.” Ibn Hibban mentioned him in “Ath-thiqat” and Al-Bukhari in “At-Tareekh Al-Kabeer” but they did not mention any Jarh (criticizing) or Ta’deel (praising) regarding him. In addition, Ahmad ibn Hanbal in “Al-Ilal” said: “I see no problem with him.” From here, it is obvious that Imam Ar-Rabee’ is among the great Traditionalists and his narration is not rejected by Hadith scholars and others.

Death

Imam Ar-Rabee’ lived the last of his life in Oman. He died in Ghadhafan, a village in Oman, around the year 175 A.H. (791 A.D.), thus he lived more than ninety years that he spent in education, dissemination of knowledge and leadership of the mission, which was established by Imam Jabir and Imam Abu ‘Ubaidah, Allah’s mercy upon them all.

Writings

Imam Ar-Rabee’  had many writings besides the monumental Al-Jami’ Al-Sahih. He was one of the first scholars who wrote in Sharia science in the second AH century. Unfortunately, not all of his works have survived to this day. His most prominent works include the following:

·        Musnad Al-Imam Ar-Rabee’ (Al-Jami’ Al-Sahih)

This is a compilation of hadith narrated by Ar-Rabee’ from his teachers. It is the oldest book of Prophetic traditions and most of it is tripartite in ascription. Ar-Rabee’ organized his book according to the names of narrators. Insh’Allah  

·        The Book of Creed

This book contains some prophetic traditions and some traditions that were narrated by some companions. These narrations were added by Imam Abu Ya’qub Al-Wrajalani to Al-Jami’ Al-Sahih. They occupy part three of the current editions and contain the narrations from Ar-Rabee’ on theological questions. 

·        Ar-Rabee”s Traditions Book

This book contains traditions narrated by Ar-Rabee’ from his teacher Dhummam ibn Al-Sa’eb from Jaber ibn Zaid. They were Maqtu’ (Severed) Hadiths, and they were compiled by Abu Sufrah Abdul Malik ibn Sufrah.

·        His opinions and juristic answers

They are scattered in the books of his students and who came after them; e.g. Abu Ghanim Bishr ibn Ghanim Al-Kharasani.

·        Ar-Rabee”s Futya (Legal Opinions)

It is a manuscript which contains legal opinions of Ar-Rabee’; almost on rulings, worships and transactions.

·        The Argumental Letter (for Ar-Rabee’ and Others)

This is a letter that was attributed to Ar-Rabee’ ibn Habib, Mukhallad ibn Al-Amrud and Wa’il ibn Ayyub, on the matter of separation that was in the East and the West; about the ruling of Juma Prayer, a suspicion of adultery on a woman, and the opinion on interpreters.

·        Ar-Rabee”s (and others) Letter to the People of Maghrib in the Matter of Ibn Fundeen.

References:

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

 

 

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Mawlid an-Nabi: The Ibadi Perspective.

“We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.” (Quran 21:107)

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The Mufti of Oman, Shaykh Ahmed Al Khalili (H) has informed us:

Celebrating the birth of the Prophet ﷺ was not practiced during the time of the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them), nor during the time of the Successors (tābi‘īn), nor during the time of the successors of the Successors (atbā‘ al-tābi‘īn). Most likely, this celebration began during the era of the Fatimids. It is said that their intention behind this celebration was to deflect accusations that they were not truly Muslims. There is much discussion about the Fatimids—some even refer to them as the “ʿUbaydīs”—though they attributed themselves to Fāṭimah (may Allah be pleased with her) and thus were called “Fāṭimids.” Yet, many exaggerations surrounding them go so far as to take them outside the fold of Islam. For example, some said about al-Muʿizz al-Fāṭimī: “Whatever you will happens, not what fate decrees; you rule, for you are the One, the Subduer.” This is evidence that those people were far from Islam and from the oneness of Allah, as this is deification of human beings.

They were the first to introduce the celebration, and Muslims later adopted it from them. Perhaps the desire to celebrate the Prophet’s birthday was in order to remind people of this great blessing—the blessing of Allah sending His Messenger ﷺ to us. However, we must consider several important factors. Among these is that people, in commemorating the Prophet’s birth, have attributed sanctity to human-authored texts recounting the story of the noble birth. They came to revere such writings as if they were the Qur’an itself, and this is impermissible. Nothing is sacred except the words of Allah. As for the words of the Prophet ﷺ, when we read them, it is for the sake of deriving benefit and guidance; reading them in itself is not an act of worship. If someone who does not understand the Prophet’s words were to recite them thinking it was an act of devotion, it would not count as worship—unlike the Qur’an, whose recitation is worship whether one understands it or not.

Therefore, attributing sacredness to anything other than the words of Allah is problematic. If the celebration is meant to remind people of this great blessing, then one should not be bound to a single text authored by a person centuries ago as though it were a chapter of the Qur’an. Rather, the occasion can be connected to present-day circumstances—what the community needs to draw from this remembrance, such as reviving the call to Islam and renewing the message. This can be done by giving lectures, enlightening people about this blessing, and renewing the spirit of the message according to the needs of the time.

At the same time, all that contradicts the Sharīʿah in such celebrations must be avoided. Gatherings involving drums, dancing by men and women, and similar practices are contrary to Islamic teachings. These must be avoided. Likewise, the extravagant spending of large amounts of money on such occasions does not please the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. These funds would be better spent on things that benefit the Muslim community. Excessive decoration and lavish displays are also not a proper way of honoring the Prophet. These are matters that must be carefully avoided.

So there is no need for people to try and justify this practice to the people on the basis of what the early generation did or what the Blessed Prophet (saw) ordered us to do.

If people celebrate to remember the blessings of the Blessed Prophet (saw), by giving lectures etc then this is not something in our estimation that is totally forbidden.

Celebrating the birth of the Blessed Prophet (saw) with speech, and poems has become ‘urf (culture/custom). -it does not violate Islamic Principles.

We do not believe such celebrations should be done with haram music, dancing or free mixing. This time is used to send abundant blessings down upon the Blessed Prophet (saw) and used as a time to reflect on rather or not we become the beloved of Allah (swt) by following the beloved of Allah (swt).

Celebrating the birth of our noble Prophet (saw) Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If you ˹sincerely˺ love Allah, then follow me; Allah will love you and forgive your sins. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 3:31)

Often in Oman, Sunni and Ibadi come together to celebrate the Maulid

“Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah often.” (Qur’an 33:21)

Some of the justifications that we use to allow the practice are as follows:

“And as for the blessings of your Lord, speak of them” (Qur’an 93:11)

Is not the birth of the Blessed Prophet (saw) a blessing to humanity? It heralds the arrival of Allah’s beloved.

It is a way to convey the message of Muhammed (saw).

It is a way to send blessings and peace upon him.

A way to adhere to his love and follow what he (saw) brought.

This entry is quite short because it is not a hair splitting issue for us. Our scholars are very clear that we do not have records of the early generations celebrating this. This is something from ‘urf that the people love to do out of their burning love for Allah’s beloved.

Those who do not participate are not looked down upon. Those who wish to participate are received warmly.

You may be interested in the following entries:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah send his choicest blessings upon our Noble Prophet (saw).

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Ramadan Day 25

“Tell believing men to lower their gaze and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. God is acquainted with what they do.” (Qur’an 24:30)

“And do not spy, nor backbite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of their dead brother? You would despise that! And fear Allah. Surely Allah is ˹the˺ Accepter of Repentance, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 49:12)

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Ramadan Day 25: The two that lead to hellfire: The private parts and the tongue.

25th of Ramadan*
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*Heart Illness: Hypocrisy*
Allah and his messenger have described hypocrites for us so that we can avoid being like them, here are some attributes extracted from the Qur’an and the Sunnah:

Disloyalty: and it’s the opposite of trustworthiness, it can be in covenants, wealth, responsibilities and others.
Lying: starting from light lies until lying becomes a habit for the hypocrite.
Betrayal: the hypocrite will try to find anyway to betray.
Immorality: making no difference between a Haram and a Halal due to the lack of faith.
Laziness in worship: Allah says about them: (“And when they stand for prayer, they stand lazily, showing [themselves to] the people and not remembering Allah except a little.” (Qur’an 4:142))
Over-caring about looks: Allah said:

“When you see them, their appearance impresses you. And when they speak, you listen to their ˹impressive˺ speech. But they are ˹just˺ like ˹worthless˺ planks of wood leaned ˹against a wall’ (Qur’an 63:4)
Deception: Allah said:

“They seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it.” (Qur’an 2:9)
Corruption: Allah says:

“And when it is said to them, Do not cause corruption on the earth, they say, We are but reformers.” (Qur’an 2:11)

*Walayah and Bara’ah of Jumlah and Haqiqah*
We spoke about Walayah and Bara’ah previously, now we will know some types of walayah and bara’ah.

Firstly, “Jumlah” meaning “as a whole” and it’s an obligation for every Muslim, it’s to (ally all the allies of Allah from the past and the present until the day of judgment, and to dissociate from all the enemies of Allah in the past, present and until the day of judgment)

The other type we will mention today is Haqiqah, and it’s to ally and dissociate based on certain texts, like to ally the wife of Fir’aun, Maryam the mother of Isa (as), the messengers etc,
and dissociate from people like Abu Lahab, the wife of Nuh and Lut
because these people are mentioned in the Qur’an for their righteousness or misery

To read more you may wish to read:

*Things allowed in prayer*
from the things that are allowed in the prayer are:
To open the next verse for the Imam if he forgets
To say SubhanAllah for the Imam if he made a mistake in the prayer
To cry for the matters of the hereafter
Light movement to fix the prayer
To stop people from walking In front of you
Killing the snake and the scorpion and other harmful things
To save souls or wealth from destruction
To carry a child and to quite him
To swallow the saliva or spit the saliva.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Ali Ibn Abi Talib his ijtihad and burning people alive

“Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption in the land it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.” (Qur’an 5:32

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Narrated `Ikrima:

“Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event reached Ibn `Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”

Source: (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57)

It was narrated from Anas that :

Ali came to some people of Az-Zutt, who worshipped idols, and burned them. Ibn ‘Abbas said: “But the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: ‘Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/nasai:4065)

There is something similar in Imami Shi’i sources.

Narrated from Abū ʿAbdillāh (Imām Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq), who said: Amīr al-Muʾminīn (ʿAlī), said:
“If it were possible for me, and if I found someone to help me, I would kill all the adherents of these sects (aṣnāf), and I would burn them with fire
. And this is [in accordance with] the saying of Allah, Mighty and Exalted:

‘Say, I am only a man like you to whom it has been revealed that your God is but one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord – let him do righteous work and not associate anyone in the worship of his Lord’ (Qur’an 18:110).”

Source: (Bihār al-Anwār al-Jāmiʿah li-Durar Akhbār al-Aʾimmat al-Aṭhār Volume and Page: Vol. 25, p. 265, Hadith #30)

Now we are going to examine a hadith that reports that Ali Ibn Abi Talib had a group of apostates burned alive.

What is important to note is that Ibn Abbas (ra) felt that Ali made an error in his ijtihad, in his decision to burn apostates.

In this regard Ibn Abbas (ra) was acting upon what Allah (swt) has mentioned in the Qur’an.

You are the best nation that ever existed among humanity. You command people to good and prohibit them from (l-munkari) evil, and you believe in Allah.” (Qur’an 3:11)

Ibn Abbas (ra) was saying he would not have done the munkar that Ali had done. He would have acted according to the Sunnah of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

We are also going to look at how a top Sunni scholar and a top Sunni apologist approach the issue.

Thus, in this particular article. We are also get to see some insights from Bassam Zawadi and Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah

Now according to the scholars of our brothers from ‘Ahl Sunnah’, all the companions are ‘adil’-just.

Burning people alive doesn’t seem to be a very upright thing to do!

I have saved the published works of both links. Things do tend to disappear from the internet (from time to time).

Let us deal with imminent and respected scholar Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah and his response to this first.

http://binbayyah.net/english/2012/01/19/did-imam-ali-burn-the-kharijites/

Question:

“I read on a website that Ali ibn Abu Talib burnt some of the Kharijites during his caliphate. But this made me confused due to the hadith we know where the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade torturing others with fire since this is a sort of associating others with Allah. So how did Ali do this?”

Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah replies:

“And upon you is the peace of Allah, together with his mercy and blessings.
This report was narrated by al-Bukhary (6922) on the authority of `Ikrimah who said: Heretics were brought before Ali and he burnt them. When Ibn `Abbas was informed about this, he said, “If I were in his place, I would not have burnt them for the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade this saying, “Do not torment with the torment of Allah” and I would have killed them, for the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.”

When a deviant group called al-Saba’iyyah, who were the followers of the Jewish `Abdullah ibn Saba’, went astray and believed that Ali was a god – we seek refuge with Allah from this – he (Ali) set them on fire and said, “When I saw such an enormous evil, I set them on fire and called.

“Besides, this issue is a particular case that has no general application, as al-Shatiby said,


In general, there are many interpretations concerning this report, whether he burnt them after he had killed them, or he was just about to burn them, but he did not. Whatever the case was, this was an opinion viewed by a companion that has nothing to do with associating gods with Allah. Burning a person is not permissible in the Shari`ah; but this does not amount to associating others with Allah. Associating others with Allah means to worship another god with Allah or to believe in other gods with Almighty Allah. Yes, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade burning others and said, “None should torment with fire except Allah.” [Reported by al-Bukhary (3016)]”

“Yet, this does not mean that whoever burns others with fire is considered as associating others with Allah. It rather means that this punishment is a punishment in the Hereafter, not in this world. This is what we should believe. The issue has no relation to associating others with Allah. As mentioned above, this interpretation may prove untrue. Perhaps he intended to burn them, but he did not, or he intended to burn them after killing them. Even if he actually burnt them, this would be a kind of ijtihad from a companion that disagrees with the text. The ultimate reference is always to the text. Nonetheless, we have to believe that they acted according to their ijtihad and that they are illuminating guides.” -Shayh Bin Bayyah (May Allah continue to benefit many by him and bless him)

Our focus here is on the following statement:

Even if he actually burnt them, this would be a kind of ijtihad from a companion that disagrees with the text. The ultimate reference is always to the text. Nonetheless, we have to believe that they acted according to their ijtihad and that they are illuminating guides.”

This is because for our brothers in ‘Ahl Sunnah’ the doctrine is that the companions can do no wrong. Even though we clearly have Ibn Abbas (ra) saying that he would not have done what Ali did!

Prima Qur’an comments:

Notice that Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah did not attack the chain of narrators. He also did not have any critique of the hadith at all.

The frightening prospect from respected Shaykh bin Bayyah’s response is that even if he did burn them it’s simply his ‘ijtihad’ and we have to believe he is still an illuminating guide.

Can you imagine? This is the standard for being ‘adil’ -upright.

The noble Shaykh bin Bayyah’s response was short and yet it has left us wanting.

In many ways, Shaykh Bin Bayyah’s understanding of this text gives grounds for extremism.

Why?

“Even if he actually burnt them, this would be a kind of ijtihad from a companion that disagrees with the text. The ultimate reference is always to the text. Nonetheless, we have to believe that they acted according to their ijtihad and that they are illuminating guides.”- Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah.

Now take a moment and think about that.  So even if Ali actually burned apostates, it was his ijtihad.  In other words, he did what he thought was right!  The very problematic response by Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah is that no principles of the sanctity of life, rules of engagement, etc. were given to us.

So, what if now ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and others want to use their ‘ijtihad’?

So let us look at how brother Bassam Zawadi deals with the issue:

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/why_did_ali_burn_some_apostates___by_understanding_islam

Question:

A Christian missionary has cited the following Hadith from Bukhari and is demanding an explanation:

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

Narrated `Ikrima:

“Some Zanadiqa(atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event reached Ibn `Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”

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“Can you briefly describe the background, which compelled Hadhrat`Ali to take this action? How valid is the isnad[1] and matn [2] and the legality of such a punishment? If there is an argument that Hadhrat`Ali cited to justify this action, that too is welcome. Jazakumallah Khaira”

Answer Bassam Zawadi:

“The referred narrative is placed in the Kitaab Al-Jihaad as well as the Kitaab Istitaabah Al-Murtaddeen by Al-Bukhari in his “Sahih”.

Although Bukhari’s narratives do not give any details regarding the incident, yet in his exegesis on Bukhari – “Fath Al-Baari” – Ibn Hajar has mentioned a few other versions of the same incident [3]. Considering all the narratives reporting this incident, the following major variations come to the forefront:

Firstly, there is quite a bit of variation regarding the people, who were subjected to this punishment. According to one version, they were atheists, according to a second version, they were apostates, according to a third version, they were a group of people, who secretly used to practice idolatry and according to a fourth version, they were a group of Rawafidh [4], who believed in the divinity of Ali.”

“Secondly, there is a significant difference between the reports regarding the incident itself. Although, the narratives given in Bukhari do not give any details of how the incident happened, yet Ibn Hajar has given a few narratives, which give some details of the happening. According to one version, when `Ali was informed regarding a people who considered him to be God, he called them and asked them to refrain from such blasphemy. They refused to comply. This went on for three days. Till, finally, `Ali ordered to dig a deep pit and burn a huge fire in it. The criminals were brought to the fire. `Ali told them that if they do not agree to refrain from their blasphemy, they would be thrown in the fire. They persisted in their refusal and were, subsequently, thrown in the fire. According to a second version, `Ali was informed of a people who secretly worshipped idols in a house. `Ali went to investigate the report. An idol was recovered from the house and, subsequently, the house was burnt to ashes. According to a third version, `Ali was informed of some apostates. He called for them. When they arrived, `Ali gave them food to eat and asked them to return to Islam. They refused. At their refusal, `Ali made them stand in a pit and killed them in it. Subsequently, he burnt them.”

“These are some of the various versions of the incident as reported in books of history and Hadith. One may take whichever explanation he believes to be more plausible to be accurate.”

“In my opinion, the second and third versions of the incident are quite considerable. It seems that:

After it had become evident that the house was secretly being used for idolatry, `Ali (ra) ordered that it be burnt down. However, due to a mistake on the part of one or more of the narrators, the incident has been reported in a way that it gives the impression that the house was burnt down with its inhabitants. Whereas, it may not have been so; or

People were killed for their apostasy and later, their corpses were burnt to ashes. This is clearly implied in the third stated version of the incident.”

“Nevertheless, if someone is not willing to accept any of the above explanations and is persistent that `Ali actually burnt these criminals to death, even then the most that can be said is that `Ali’s decision of burning the criminals to death was not correct, in view of the directive of the Prophet (pbuh) to the contrary. This, obviously, would amount to criticism of Ali’s decision – not a criticism of Islam.”

“After all, `Ali was but a human being, he may have erred in his decision.”

I hope this helps.

October 11, 2000

[1] That is the chain of narrators of this reporting.

[2] That is, the text of this reporting.

[3]Al-Fath Al-Baari, Kitaab Istitaabah Al-Murtaddeen, Vol. 12, Pg. 270

[4] i.e. rejecters.


Prima Qur’an comments:

Now, this is why I really miss Bassam Zawadi when he was involved in apologetic. I know Bassam Zawadi is passionate about his understanding of Islam, but who isn’t?

Notice also, that Bassam like Bin Bayyah did not attack the chain of narrators, nor does he have any issue with the hadith themselves.

Though it would have been nice to have all the narrations laid out for us, we can clearly see that there is a need to rescue Ali from anything wrongfully attributed to him. That is admirable.  That is understandable because that is usually what our brothers from the ‘Ahl Sunnah’ will do to rescue the character of all the companions.

However, at least Bassam is willing to make the following assertion/concession.

“`Ali actually burnt these criminals to death, even then the most that can be said is that `Ali’s decision of burning the criminals to death was not correct, in view of the directive of the Prophet (pbuh) to the contrary. This, obviously, would amount to criticism of `Ali’s decision – not a criticism of Islam.

After all, `Ali was but a human being, he may have erred in his decision.”

Beautiful!  Well said!

So, in other words like Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah, Bassam is trying to clear Ali of these reports.  Yet, unlike Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah, Bassam is not willing to be defined by this!  In other words, look the companions could have made mistakes, big errors in judgment, and did things that are not correct.

I also hope that one has gleaned the following from what Bassam has said as well.

Although Bukhari’s narratives do not give any details regarding the incident”

Firstly, there is quite a bit of variation regarding the people, who were subjected to this punishment. According to one version.”  

“According to a second version,”  

“According to a third version”

“According to a fourth version,”

The narratives given in Bukhari do not give any details of how the incident happened, yet Ibn Hajar has given a few narratives, which give some details of the happening.”

However, due to a mistake on the part of one or more of the narrators, the incident has been reported in a way that it gives the impression….”

I hope people reflect well on these statements.  This is true for the vast corpus of hadith literature. They simply give you snippets and snapshots. Just bits and pieces of information.

The interesting observation is how two champions of the ‘Ahl Sunnah’ have made their concluding remarks.  

To me, in my humble opinion brother, Bassam’s response was more robust and more keeping to the truth.

Whatever these companions and successors did does not have to be a reflection upon Islam!

Lastly, I also think that Bassam Zawadi’s understanding and response is much grounded and keeping with the justice and compassion of Islam. 

 Bassam Zawadi’s response does not give room for groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda to act brash in the name of “personal ijtihad.” Where as Bin Bayyah’s response certainly does.

THE REACTION OF IBN ABBAS IS KEY

Also, Bassam Zawadi’s response shows that Ali could have made an error in his ijtihad. In fact, Ibn Abbas (ra) is shown not to agree with Ali’s decision. This means that Ibn Abbas (ra) felt that the Ijtihad of Ali was incorrect. After all that is a key part of these hadith reports about what Ali is said to have done.  Surely Ibn Abbas (ra) is not going to object to Ali burning dead bodies?

If Ali could be wrong in ijtihad in this area, could he have been wrong in his ijtihad in the battle of Siffin?

Whereas Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah’s response was, well, ‘It was his opinion’.  This is important in the jargon of ‘Ahl Sunnah’ because it implicitly implies that Ali could very well have made an error.  

However, he would still be rewarded for his error. Whereas Bassam Zawadi made clear daylight between the teachings of the Blessed Messenger (saw) and a very probable and unjust emotional decision based upon a companion.  

This is also important because this is exactly what happened at Siffin. Many companions felt that Ali not only made an error in his ijtihad but that he failed to judge by what Allah (swt) had instructed us to judge by.

Alas, some people maybe dismissive of Bassam Zawadi being a Salafi. It is rather unfortunate to dismiss him on account of that. However, this statement by Shaykh Muhammed Al Yaqubi in his book is not so easily dismissed. * Would like to give credit to a brother who commented on this entry for the following information. Hamza Malik -May Allah (swt) reward you.

“ISIS uses the story of Ali as a proof, as it is narrated that he burned someone. However, the story does not provide any proof to the permissibility of burning people for the following reasons. First, Ibn Abbas, cousin of Ali, opposed him and declared that it was wrong. Second, Imam al-Bukhari narrated this story to caution the reader that it is not valid, as he narrated the counter-proofs. His job was to compile every text related to the subject, and the job of the doctors of law was to establish what is valid and what is not. Third, Ali himself agreed with his cousin Ibn Abbas that this is forbidden, as narrated by al-Tirmidhi (Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi, vol. 5, pp. 24-25).”

Source: (Refuting Isis (2nd edition p. 27) in regard to Ali using fire to punish.)

It is note worthy that Shaykhs: Muhammed Al Yaqubi is widely believed to be a descendant of the Blessed Prophet’s grandson Hassan. Yet, this did stop Shaykh Yaqubi from seeing Ali as someone who could be mistaken in his ijtihad.

In other words, the common gas lighting tactics of: “He is from the Ahl Bayt how could you?” was not used.

Islam does not stand, or fall based upon what companions did or did not do. It is based upon the teachings of the Qur’an and the clear teachings of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

May Allah (swt) bless Bassam Zawadi and Shaykh Bin Bayyah for their sincere efforts.

Allah (swt) knows best, and the help of Allah (swt) is sought in all matters.  It is also interesting that this hadith so bothers crypto-Shi’i (Shi’a in the guise of a Sunni) don’t be surprised to see them try and discredit ‘Ikrma altogether! Not only that but some Shi’a have failed to discredit ‘Ikrma have tried to have a go at Ibn Abbas (ra) Even though, ‘Ikrma also narrates a juicy hadith that the Shi’i like to use about Ammar bin Yassar being killed by the rebellious group. Can’t have your cake and eat it to folks!

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