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Those Muslims who adopt the Ibadi School Can Practice Kitman to protect their life

“He said, “O my son, do not relate your vision to your brothers or they will contrive against you a plan. Indeed Satan, to man, is a manifest enemy.” (Qur’an 12:5)

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This fatwa is in response to those who have adopted the Ibadi school from other schools (be they Hanafi, Shafi’i, Hanbali, Maliki, Imami Shi’i, etc.)

This particular fatwa is limited in scope to serving the purpose of protecting the sanctity of the lives of those brothers and sisters who adopt the school and if they were to outwardly display this via praying the way the Blessed Prophet (saw) prayed, they could get beaten or attacked.

So let me try and answer some objections that have been put forward by laypeople from our school (not from the scholars).

Objection 1) The people will do bid’ah if they do not pray the way the Blessed Prophet (saw) prayed.

Response: The Shaykhs have taken this into consideration when issuing the fatwa.

Objection 2) Why would you go to a Masjid in which people would potentially beat you up?!

Response: Your intelligence and wisdom are sound. However, there is something perhaps you did not consider.

Objector: What is that? 

Response: In our very own school, is it not wajib for the most part for us to perform the fard in the Masjid? 

Objector: Normally yes. 

So, likewise, in other schools and strains of Islam, in particular, the Deobandi and Hanafi schools performing the prayer in the Masjid is fard.  So we informed him. Imagine someone who follows our school, and they go to the Masjid on a regular basis, and suddenly they stopped going.  Will the people not inquire? 

Thus, this is the case with these people. If they stop going, their people, neighbors, and family will inquire, then what is to be done?

Objector. I see your point.

Objection 3) The people may abuse kitman.

Response: This is a possibility and yet is not our concern.  None of us can instill in a person Wara’ nor Taqwa. This is obtained via the efforts of the individual to strive to be close to Allah (swt) and not to take light of the duties and responsibilities as a Muslim who will be accountable to Allah (swt) on the day of reckoning.  

Some brothers may be shocked as they reason how it is that some Muslims would attack other Muslims over juristic differences.  Al hamdulillah! The brothers in Oman live in a place of peace and stability and may it continue to be so.  May Allah (swt) grant the Sultan wisdom. 

Let us not forget that the Wahhabis and Madhkahlis always stir up sedition against us. Let us not forget our dear brothers in Libya to whom Shaykh Ahmed Al Khalili (h) stated:

“We thank the Supreme Council of Libyan Elders and Notables for condemning the statement that stirred up sedition in the country, by attacking the Ibadi sect and attempting to confiscate its freedom in its endowments. What we hope from the Libyan government and the notables of society there is to be keen on uniting the ranks and unifying the world; for when the fire of sedition flares up, it leaves nothing behind!

For further reading: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240714-omans-grand-mufti-commends-libyan-elders-for-condemning-anti-ibadi-incitement/

We should not forget there is a good number of ignorant people in our Ummah who believe that we are the Khawarij and they have hadith like the following:

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Chapter: Exhortation to kill the Khawarij باب التَّحْرِيضِ عَلَى قَتْلِ الْخَوَارِجِ ‏

‘Ali said:

Whenever I narrate to you anything from the Messenger of Allah (saw) believe it to be absolutely true as falling from the sky is dearer to me than that of attributing anything to him (the Holy Prophet) which he never said. When I talk to you of anything which is between me and you (there might creep some error in it) for battle is an outwitting. I heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) as saying: There would arise at the end of the age a people who would be young in age and immature in thought, but they would talk (in such a manner) as if their words are the best among the creatures. They would recite the Qur’an, but it would not go beyond their throats, and they would pass through the religion as an arrow goes through the prey. So when you meet them, kill them, for in their killing you would get a reward with Allah on the Day of Judgement.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1066a)

So it matters little to some of these people what our position is nor do they care. Not everyone is up for a discussion and many don’t have the mental acumen to have one to begin with. To them, the only thing they know is violence and that they will be rewarded by Allah (swt) for it!

This is not the time for us to be naïve. This is the time for us to be sober-minded, practical and pragmatic. Indeed, these are the trademarks of our school! 

The following comes from the noble and learned Shaykh: Abu Al-Arab (Ismail Al-Awfi) — Hafidullah. May Allah (swt) continue to bless him and bless others via his knowledge.



Shaykh Abu Al-Arab (Ismail Al-Awfi)

If they are afraid for themselves, no blame for them for raising their hands and putting their hands on the chest in this situation (only). When you pray alone or by yourself, then you do the prayer of the Blessed Prophet (saw).

Saving yourself is one of the major rules in Islam. Self-preservation is a very basic rule in Islam.

In Islam, we have what is known as : Ad-Darooriyyaat Al-Khams—The Five Necessities that are protected and recognized by the Islamic law (shari’ah).

Protection and sanctity of ones:

  • Life
  • Religion
  • Wealth
  • Lineage
  • Mind (intellect)

We will also include in this a brief question to Shaykh Massoud bin Mohammed Al Miqbali (h) May Allah (swt) continue to bless him and bless others via his knowledge. As well as his swift and brief reply. We include this because he is known to have more hardline views in our school.

As salam alaikum wr wb Shaykh Massoud, 

Shaykh Massoud, how are you?!

May Allah keep you safe and benefit us with what you have taught us.

Shaykh, there are people from outside Oman who have recently followed the madhab and are asking if there is validation for the actual kitman, which is praying as the people of their region follow for fear of sedition. 

Do they have validity for this matter?

Reply: walakum assalam waarahmatu allahi wabaraktu, Yes they have. 

So dear brothers and sisters, and truth seekers. This fatwa is limited in scope to those of you who may live in places where, if you were to pray the way the Blessed Prophet (saw) prayed, you would get physically attacked or even physically killed.

As mentioned before, many in our Ummah are not educated on some of the differences of views in jurisprudence and other matters. Many of them are not interested in engaging in a discussion with you. We know that the Blessed Prophet (saw) prayed with his arms to the side. In other areas of the world, you can and possibly will be labeled as a Shi’a for praying this way.

As cited above, Muslims of the Ibadi school have been targeted in Libya. Likewise, in Indonesia, the Shi’a have actually had their houses burned down! See below:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-20843259

For us, it is not so much to avoid fitna. For those who want to have a dialogue on the matter, they will find the ibadi school is ever ready!

This fatwa is more for the preservation and sanctity of one’s life.   May Allah (swt) grant us good judgement and safety.

You may be interested in reading the following:

May Allah (swt) Guide The Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Ghayat Al Murad by Shaykh Imam Noor Al Deen Al Salimi (r)

“O humanity! There has come to you conclusive evidence from your Lord. And We have sent down to you a brilliant light.” (Qur’an 4:174)

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May Allah (swt) bless the brother, the servant of Allah (swt) for the translation of this beautiful and powerful poem. This line 77 line poem should equip the student of knowledge with some of the basic and necessary understandings of creed.

We present to you: Ghayat Al Murad by Shaykh Imam Noor Al Deen Al Salimi (r)

May Allah (swt) Guide this Ummah to the Pure Creed.

May Allah Guide the Ummah

May Allah Forgive the Ummah

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Shaykh Yasir Qadhi speaks on the Ibadi school: Three Levels of Aqidah (Theology)

“And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you – when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.” (Qur’an 3:103)

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Al hamdulillah! Just three years ago (2022) no one was talking about the Ibadi school. Through the efforts of Primaquran we have put the school on the map.

We even sparked an individual to start up his own YouTube channel of which he is a co-host with a former ex 12er lady. They do their own thing. Never underestimate the impact you will have on others.

Recently Shaykh Yasir Qadhi was on a podcast with brothers Dr Salman Butt and Umer Suleman. They have an excellent podcast which is one of my favourites on YouTube as well.

The channel is: https://www.youtube.com/@islam21c

During this podcast Shaykh Yasir Qadhi made some comments about the Ibadi school.

@20:50 he says: “The Ibadis’ of Oman are Mu’tazilah in creed. Their worship of Allah is no less. Frankly it is
better than most Sunni lands. Frankly. If you’ve ever visited Oman. Their akhlaq, their tahhajud, their Qur’an, their strong Emaan. I know the critics are going to go absolutely crazy with this. I’m not saying Mutazalism is correct but I’m saying; the way you guys made it out to be the brother of Shaitan. No it’s not.”-Shaykh Yasir Qadhi

“So let me finish this one point so the accusation that if you say X this will imply Y; that syllogism is a figment of the imagination of the critic. If you deny Allah’s istiwa then it’s going to happen. Well, this then is from you. Not from the people themselves.” -Shaykh Yasir Qadhi

“The people who actually hold it don’t go there. And this is what I’m saying when I say we have the hindsight of history. 13 centuries we look back The Zaydis of Yemen are Mu’tazilah. Their praying tahhajud and doing everything as well. You know what I’m saying?”-Shaykh Yasir Qadhi

“They clearly the itiz’ah they believe, the Ibadi’s believe the Qur’an is makhluq. The Ibadis
believe the Qur’an is makhluq. Their grand mufti is on YouTube literally defending and then saying but Sunnis, he literally said: ‘but Sunnis you guys made this a bigger issue than it needed to be.’ We still recite the Qur’an take the sha, that’ s his view. I am not saying I agree with it right? And look at their laws and look at the people.”-Shaykh Yasir Qadhi.

If anyone has the contact of Shaykh Yasir Qadhi do let him know to that the ministry of awqaf in Oman would (insh’Allah) be interested in inviting him as a guest to Oman. Perhaps he (Shaykh Yasir Qadhi) can give talks there. Shaykh Yasir Qadhi speaks, reads and writes Arabic so there should be no barriers.

We believe Shaykh Salman Al Ouda was a teacher of Shaykh Yasir Qadhi. He came to Oman. Insh’Allah let us invite Shaykh Yasir Qadhi to Oman. He has access to Arabic and thus it will be beneficial insh’Allah. He wants to build bridges across sectarian lines which is a blessing.

Oman has invited many people from across various schools. Shaykh Yasir Qadhi has only to reach out to Nouman Ali Khan about the time he spent at the Qur’an school there.

As Shaykh Yasir Qadhi believes in nuance it is important to note that we are not actually we are not Mu’tazilah.


The Ash’ari agree with us on the doctrine of kasb.

The Ash’ari agree with us morality comes from revelation not human aql.

However, it is possible that Shaykh Yasir Qadhi mentioned Mu’tazilah in the broader definition than in the prevailing sectarian definitions. With Shaykh Yasir Qadhi having what some may consider more liberal leaning inclinations perhaps when he meets with the learned people in Oman he will see that the school is very strong and a very good choice for the Muslim Ummah.

He will see and observe and experience that what he may perceive to be Mu’tazilah leanings there is no doubt that the people cling to the Sunnah!

In fact in our brush ups with certain heretical strains of Salafism they never once (that we can recall)try and fault us about observance of the Sunnah. How can they? They always bring up issues of creed and history.

In regard to the talk that the Mufti of Oman (Shaykh Ahmed Al Khalii-hafidhullah) gave: Shaykh Yasir Qadhi maybe referencing the following:

Shaykh Bin Baz invited Shaykh Ahmed Khalili to his office and Shaykh Khalili accepted the invitation. Shaykh Ahmed Khalili and a small delegation went into what was described as a small room. There was no courtesy and no decorum showed on behalf of Shaykh Bin Baz. As soon Shaykh Bin Baz got everyone in the room he started shouting, “You Ibadi are Kafirs! You don’t believe in seeing Allah in the afterlife”. “You believe in the creation of the Qur’an and you must make tawba!” “You must testify that you are mistaken!”


Shaykh Ahmed Khalili remained very calm. He replied, “These issues are very old issues and many of the ulemah have been talking about it.” “Our expectation was to come and discuss on how to unite the Ummah, and keep the differences aside, and we should agree on certain terms.”

You may read the rest of the incident here:

https://primaquran.com/2024/01/12/prophetic-wisdom-the-winning-group/

May Allah Guide the Ummah

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Forgiving Sins: Does This Make Jesus God?

“And let them pardon and overlook. Would you not like that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Quran 24:22)

“Who spend In the cause of Allah during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people – and Allah loves the doers of good.” (Qur’an 3:134)

“And We have not created the heavens and earth and that between them except in truth. And indeed, the Hour is coming; so forgive with gracious forgiveness.” (Qur’an 15:85)

“O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Qur’an 64:14)

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First let us address a misunderstanding that people have in general with the Muslim view in regard to Allah forgiving sins.

“Those who, upon committing an evil deed or wronging themselves, remember Allah and seek forgiveness for their sins—and who forgives sins except Allah?—and they do not knowingly persist in wrongdoing?” (Qur’an 3:125)

All sins are sins, ultimately sins against Allah. Rather, they are major or minor. One needs to beseech Allah for forgiveness. That being said, there are three types of relational sins.

  1. Sins against yourself. You did injustice to your own self.

And whoever does evil or acts unjustly to his soul, then asks forgiveness of Allah, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.” (Qur’an 4:110)

Coupled with this is the psychological torture a sinner puts on themselves thinking that their sins are greater than Allah’s mercy. That Allah (swt) will not forgive them. This is what is meant by forgiving yourself. Allah (swt) says:

“He said, “And who despairs of the mercy of his Lord except for those astray?” (Qur’an 15:56)

“”O my sons! go and enquire about Joseph and his brother, and never give up hope of Allah’s Soothing Mercy: truly no one despairs of Allah’s Soothing Mercy, except those who ungrateful disbelievers.” (Qur’an 12:87)

“Say, “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 39:53)

2. Sins against another party.

“And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives up his right as charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 5:45)

So, depending upon the nature of the offense, one can simply forgive the offending party. However, the offender still needs to seek forgiveness from Allah. Another example could be that someone stole an apple from our orchard and we caught the thief. We can settle it with the thief. That they return the apple, that they agree to pay for it. That they exchange for another item. That they work to pay for it. Yet that offender still needs to ask Allah (swt) for forgiveness. For other offenses, different measures may be taken. This is to ensure a stable, just and cohesive society that is not overwhelmed by crimes and injustice.

3. Sins against Allah.

This is self-explanatory. Yet, in all these above cases. Sinning against myself, another party (person or group), in all cases one still needs to seek forgiveness from Allah (swt).


Jesus forgiving sins makes him God?

It would be appropriate for a Christian to prove to us that Allah (swt) alone pardons, and overlooks sins.

Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?”


Christians tell us that Jesus must be God because he ‘forgave sins’ and that ‘only God’ can forgive sins.

The text that immediately comes to mind is the following:


“But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?”(Mark 2:7)


“And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21)


We find it very peculiar that Christians would take the statement of the people who accused Jesus of wrongdoing and then agree with them!

Basically, the Christian logic is that these people were right. However, Jesus was entitled to do such since he is God.

Prima Qur’an comments:

Now here is some food for thought. Notice that the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason with themselves. Notice that there was absolutely no appeal to proofs and evidence.


Christians argue that the scribes and Pharisees are right based upon their reasoning.

Muslims argue that the scribes and Pharisees are wrong based upon their reason.

So then this would raise an obvious question:
Are there any scriptures that the scribes or Pharisees might appeal to that say that God alone forgives sins or do they simply use their own reason?

We have noted that when Christians try to prove that Jesus is God based upon his ability to forgive sins, they always appeal to Mark 2:7 and Luke 5:21

We have also found it very interesting that they tend to stay away from Matthew chapter 9.

Why don’t they use Matthew chapter 9 verse 8 to prove Jesus forgiving sins makes him divine?

Well, because Matthew chapter 9 verse 8 does not help their case.

In fact, it’s’ a proof text that can be argued effectively against that claim!

“And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; “Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven you.”

And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, “This man blasphemes.”

And Jesus knowing how they were reasoning said, “Why do you think evil in your hearts? What is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you;’ or to say, ‘Arise, and walk?’ But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins, (then said he to the sick of the palsy,) ‘Arise, take up your bed, and go into your house’.”

And he arose and departed to his house. But when the multitudes saw it, they marveled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto MEN.(Matthew 9:2-8)

*Note* Men plural. Not just a man.

Protestants have suspected that earlier Christians had tampered with the text. So they too have begun to tamper with the text. Notice the various translations of this text into English. Only the New International Version is being blatantly deceptive.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/9-8.htm

But there is something else of importance. You see, all believers do believe that Allah can cause us to be stricken with various ailments and illnesses. This can cause us to be humble, to turn us to the Creator, among other things.

However, apparently there was an understanding among certain of the Jews (if this text were to be believed) that if a person was born with an ailment, handicap or illness that either they or their parents did some sin that warranted this.

“As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.” (John 9:1-3)


Now let us go back and compare/contrast these three accounts.

“But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, ”Why does this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?” (Mark 2:6-7)

“And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21)

“When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8)

Prima Qur’an comments:

Mark has it that the Scribes were reasoning that only God can forgive sins.

Luke has it that the Scribes and Pharisees were reasoning that only God can forgive sins.

Matthew does not tell us what the scribes or Pharisees were reasoning at all. Rather, Matthew records the reaction of the crowd who praised God for giving such authority to men (plural).

Is there a contradiction? Not necessarily. Two transmitters record the reaction of Jesus’ opponents. One transmitter records the reaction of the crowd (which could or could not contain Scribes/Pharisees).

For Protestant Christians will ignorantly quote the citations of Mark and Luke as proof of the divinity of Christ Jesus.

Latin Roman Catholics, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox should know better. In this situation, the citation of Matthew 9:8 helps to establish authority for men to forgive sins.

We would like to bring the following text to your attention:

“Whosoever sins you remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosoever sins you retain, they are retained.” (John 20:23)

No one is making an argument that these men are divine because they have the ability to forgive and retain sins. The above text, which supports Sacerdotalism, has to be one of the most disliked texts in the entire New Testament by Protestant Christians.

The Most Famous Prayer in Christianity.

“This, then, is how you should pray: ” ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, let your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” (Matthew 6:9-13)

“He said to them, “When you pray, say: ” ‘Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, as we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.’ ” (Luke 11:2-4)

1) Forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors.

The Greek word there for ‘as‘ is ‘hosper‘ which means: ‘just as‘ and ‘exactly like‘.

2) Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sinned against us.

Source: https://biblehub.com/greek/5618.htm

Prima Qur’an omments:

Jesus himself taught his followers to ask God to pardon their debts to him exactly like they pardon the debts of others to them. No one is asked to sacrifice their children or animals. Simply to pardon people for their offenses.

So the only way any of us, including Jesus, are ‘divine‘ in that sense would be like the saying,

“To err is human, to forgive, divine.” ― Alexander Pople, An Essay on Criticism

“How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil because God was with him.” (Acts 10:38)

A very powerful example of forgiveness. Forgiveness can be a powerful transformative act for the human soul.

A Muslim man forgives the man who killed his son in a brutal murder. May Allah (swt) grant him paradise and may Allah (swt) open the heart of the other man to the message of Islam.

Muslim woman forgives the man who killed her son in a brutal murder. May Allah (swt) grant her paradise and may Allah (swt) open the heart of the other man to the message of Islam.

It is these conservative Muslim Americans that are transforming their neighborhoods, communities and societies for the better.

“When they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.”(Qur’an 5:83)

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May Allah guide the sincere among the Christians so that they do not enter the hellfire.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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A Christian Dilemma: No mention of Islam?

” And give full measure when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is the best way and best in result.” (Qur’an 17:35)

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We were recently looking back at some statements of Frithjof Schuon, and we came across a very forceful proposition.

“If Muhammed had been a false prophet. there is no reason why Christ should not have spoken of him as he spoke of Antichrist but if Muhammed is a true Prophet the passages referring to the Paraclete must inevitably concern him – not exclusively but eminently – for it is inconceivable that Christ, when speaking of the future, should have passed over in silence a manifestation of such magnitude. The same reasoning excludes a priori the possibility that Christ. when making his predictions, intended to include Muhammed under the general denomination of” false prophets”, for in the history of our era Muhammed is in no sense a typical example among others of the same kind, but on the contrary, a unique and incomparable apparition(1). If he had been one of the false prophets announced by Christ he would have been followed by others and there would exist in our day a multitude of false religions subsequent to Christ and comparable in importance and extension to Islam. The spirituality to be found within Islam from its origins up to our days is an incontestable fact. and “by their fruits ye shall know them.” -Frithjof Schuon

We may not agree with the Paraclete part, but this is powerful. This is truly a Christian Dilemma. How could Jesus (as) NOT mention the coming of Muhammed (saw) even if not in a positive sense? All these prophecies about the future and Islam being THE rival to Christianity and yet absolutely nothing?

What is interesting (maybe a PhD thesis out there waiting for one of you—you’re welcome) — what is interesting is that we would be willing to say that if one searched they would find writings or commentaries in the works of the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Syriac Church of the East that most likely did interpret certain passages of their canon as regard the coming of the Blessed Prophet (saw) and/or the rise of Islam. Albeit they had to do so very carefully.

Let us look at the Zenith of the Christian Roman Empire (also known as the Byzantine Empire). Here it is at its Zenith under Justinian I. Btw, the Ghassanids were a vassal Christian state, not Muslims.

THEN SUDDENLY…. UMAYYAD IMPERIUM AT IT’S PEAK

THEN …PEAK OTTOMAN EMPIRE.

This alone is enough to make any sincere person question the validity and veracity of Christianity. It is more than sufficient.

ISLAM WAS LIKE A TSUNAMI OF MONOTHEISM THAT SHOOK THE TRINITARIAN CHRISTIAN WORLD TO IT’S CORE. From the capture of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria and Constantinople.

Islam is set to overtake Christianity (combined denominations) by 2050.

Source: (https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/)

In fact, go and look at this Christian site: an impressive 351 Old Testament Prophecies supposedly that Jesus (as) fulfilled.

Things as vague and insignificant such as:

Riding a donkey into Jerusalem.
Spending some time in Egypt.
Being betrayed for 30 pieces of silver.
Was spat on.
Was despised.
Was rejected.
Will be a judge.
Given vinegar to drink.
Was thirsty. And in reality, a whole host of other idiosyncrasies that would not matter in the least in regard to Jesus (as) and Prophetic fulfillment.

THE BIG MAMA ULTRA MEGA EVENTS ARE NOT WORTH A PROPHECY!

Things like this:

“At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.” (Matthew 27:51-53)

Apparently, things like the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw), who came with a message in which his followers and those after them rose up and supplanted previously held Christian lands and territories and is arguably THE #1 rival on THE planet Earth and—not-even…a…pin…drop.

“For it is inconceivable that Christ, when speaking of the future, should have passed over in silence a manifestation of such magnitude.”- Frithjof Schuon

Well said Mr. Schuon.

This certainly is a Christian Dilemma.

May Allah Guide the Christians before they enter the hellfire.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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Ali Erbaş Turkish Islamic scholar and President of Directorate of Religious Affairs (Diyanet) in Turkey says Jesus is dead and will not return.

“It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the world view that is based on the truth to manifest it over all other world views, although they who rely upon other than or associate partners with Allah dislike it.” (Qur’an 9:33)

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Ali Erbaş Turkish Islamic scholar and President of Directorate of Religious Affairs (Diyanet) in Turkey says Jesus is dead and will not return. He also has stated that there is no Mahdi that will come. This is quite a huge deal because Ali Erbas is in essence the Mufti of Turkey.

These positions (especially concerning the Mahdi) are part of a de-shificiation process we see happening among Sunni Muslims.

It is interesting that more and more learned scholars around the round are coming to the Ibadi school’s position on these points. I wonder how many more actually hold such views but are not so bold as to proclaim them for fear of reprisal?

In the comment section you see threats, emotions and not proofs and evidences.

Here we look at the verse in the Qur’an 43:61 often quoted and used to affirm the second coming Jesus (as).

Here we look at Qur’an 4:159 which is also used to affirm the second coming if Jesus (as)

The following examines the word ‘tawaffa’ Yet, the Qur’an itself offers no cause for confusion. Tawaffā appears in twenty-five passages in the Qur’an, and twice in relation to Christ Jesus (Q 5:117 and Q 3.55).

For twenty-three of those passages the Muslim commentators generally follow the standard definition of this term, that is that Allah (swt) separates the soul from the body or makes someone die.

Think about this Muslim brothers and sisters. For those passages that are not tied into ahadith about Jesus(as) coming back they are translated and understood as per usual.

What about all those hadith that speak about some second coming of Jesus? Aren’t they tawatur?

Al Ma’rij Imam Abu Muhammed Abdulllah Al- Salimi (r) Volume 1. It is actually is a fiqh book. Many times in our school
when our scholars write a book about fiqh they will start with a short section on aqidah.

The coming of Isa Ibn Maryam
1) There is no Prophet after Muhammed (saw).
2) That which is narrated from the people (Ahl Sunnah) about Jesus (as) coming back it is not sound.
3) Even if it was sound, the time of Isa Ibn Maryam has already passed.
4) Same have said that Khidr and Elias (as) they are still alive then their status would be like angels.
Their live would be veiled from the seen world. They would not eating drinking indulging. These things are not correct with our school.
5) If he comes he will come in the Shari’a of the Prophet (saw), which Ahl Sunnah has conceded. They have conceded he cannot come back as a prophet.

Source: (The Ascents of Hope in the Stages of Perfection, in the Introductions by Imam Abu Muhammed Abdullah Al-Salimi -may Allah have mercy on him)

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

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There Is No Hate Quite Like Christian Love

“Their malice for each other is intense: you think they are united, yet their hearts are divided. That is because they are a people with no understanding.” (Qur’an 59:14)

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“And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.” (Qur’an 5:14)

We know via the doctrine of kasb that this is what the Christians brought on themselves.

I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I have come so that ‘a son will be against his father, a daughter will be against her mother, a daughter-in-law will be against her mother-in-law. A person’s enemies will be members of his own family.” (Matthew 10:34-39)

“Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!” (Luke 12:51)

According to Christians, Christ Jesus did not teach the highest love as laying your life down for your enemy.

“Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” (John 15:13)

However, there is a greater love than this. That you lay down your life for your enemies. Anyone would, in the given circumstances, lay down their lives for their friends.

Christianity is extremely carnal. It is very much of the flesh and not of the transformation of the spirit and the heart. Islam teaches that we must have a complete transformation of the spirit, the mind, the body and the heart.

Allah (swt) tells us in the Qur’an. If you do not come to Allah (swt) with a sound heart. Forget about it!

“The day when neither wealth nor sons will avail anyone. Only the one who will come to Allah with a sound heart.” (Qur’an 26:89)

The Church of the Holy Sepulcher Christians will bash each other up because they did not agree on the moving of a chair.

Sometimes a brawl will break out because one monk or priest will brush or move his broom just a little too much for the other’s liking.

In 1776, by order of the Sultan, the Muslims forced the 6 bickering Christian groups to sign a document to try and work out their differences over control over the sanctuaries of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. That document was ratified by the following groups: the Latin Catholic Church, The Greek Orthodox Church, The Armenian Apostolic Church, The Syrian Orthodox Church, The Ethiopian Orthodox Church, and the Coptic Orthodox Church.

Prior to this, Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub had entrusted the Keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher to a Muslim family. The other Muslim family would then take the key and open the Church. This shared responsibility was a demonstration to Christians about what cooperation might look like.

Here is a Protestant Christian, Rick Wiles, who speaks about this.

Recently, while in Singapore, the Latin Roman Catholic Pope made the following statement:

“Every religion is a way to arrive at God. There are different languages to arrive at God but God is God for all. But my God is more important than your god, is that true? There is only 1 God & each of has a language to arrive at God. Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, they are different paths.”

We say Latin Roman Catholic Pope rather than ‘The Pope’ because to call him ‘The Pope’ means we have taken a side in the intra-Christian schisms over who actually is ‘The Pope’. So he (Jorge Mario Bergoglio) is one of two claimants. The other claimant is Wagih Sobhi Baki Soliman, known as Pope Tawadros II of the Orthodox Coptic Church.

However, his (Jorge Mario Bergoglio) comment already agitated those in the sedevacantist movement. Sedevacantist believe that The Latin Roman Catholic Pope has actually been vacant for a while. So statements made by Jorge Mario Bergoglio did not help matters.

On a side note, there is a renewed curiosity in the Latin Roman Catholic Church, the Various Orthodox Churches and others among Protestant Christians in the West. As the Latin Roman Catholic Church already has a dominant presence in the West, it is the one that has the most to gain from Christians falling out with Protestantism. Yet in recent years a new kid on the block has shown up in the form of the various Eastern Orthodox churches.

It also seems to be a matter of who gets their message out first, as various Eastern Orthodox Churches have now come in with the claim of being ‘The One True Church’. Protestants, Westerners and Christians in general are not aware of the many competing claims as to the One True Church. True, as in it has an authentic historical pedigree and true, as in it has been guided by the Holy Spirit to teach the one true doctrine.

There is a type of predatory behavior among Eastern Orthodox Christians that take advantage of Protestant layman and their general ignorance of history.

For example, most Protestant layman do not know that the Oriental Orthodox Christians consider themselves to be the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus, in his Great Commission, and its bishops and the successors of Christ’s apostles.

They would gladly challenge the Eastern Orthodox Christians on their claim, any time, anywhere, any place.

The Assyrian Church of the East can also readily contest the claims of the Eastern Orthodox or anyone else for that matter. They claim lineage and pedigree going back to St. Thomas the Apostle.

The Assyrian Church of the East is not to be confused with the Chaldean Catholic Church — which
is in communion with the Latin Roman Catholic Church also can be a claimant to the one true Church of Christ Jesus. In their view, Cyril of Alexandria was a bullied Nestorius. That Nestorius was misrepresented at a council that he wasn’t even present. The Churches of the East refuse to anathematize Nestorius and have traditionally maintained he wasn’t Nestorian.

At least not ‘Nestorian’ as was painted by rivals of the Church.

The issue with other Christians is that they call Mary: Theotokos (mother of God) where as the Assyrian Church of the East maintains that Mary is to be called: Christotokos (mother of Christ).

What is ironic is that older Christian sects, like the Latin Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox Christians would challenge Protestants on the fact that it was church councils that decided the biblical canon. The irony, though, is that when these very churches get into disputes with one another, they go back to their respective biblical canons to quote source text. The other irony is that if you ask who or what gives the Church its authority and where you get that information from, they would also ultimately have to reference their biblical canons. It becomes a type of circular reasoning.

On that note, we would like to take the time to thank the Protestant Christians on behalf of all other Christians for being responsible for mass printing, mass distributing and mass translating the Bible….while the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Assyrian Church and Latin Roman Catholic were ya know…..doing…stuff…..sorta.

In fact, if it was not for the work of the Protestant Christians, the other churches would be quoting their respective scholars, bishops, patriarchs, and councils. Now, they (Non-Protestants) can open up text to argue their points with Protestants.

Isn’t history filled with irony?

Christians put plants in each other’s camps to cause destruction and strife?

Yohannan Sulaqa took the name Shimun(Shamoun) and he was seen as a plant
by the Latin Roman Catholic Church to split the Assyrian Church of the East and weaken it.

The British-educated Patriarch Shimun (Shamoun) XXI Eshai, traveled through Europe before moving to Chicago in 1940 to join the growing Assyrian diaspora community there. He was assassinated by a fellow Christian by the name of  David Malek Ismail.

Interestingly, one of the rumors on the internet is that another Shimun(Sam Shamoun) is, of all things, a Muslim plant to cause strife and discord among the Christian community!

We had already discussed this individual in our article here:

He (Shimun) was masterful in his attacks upon Protestant Christianity. First luring in his audience by going after what are considered by most Protestants to be fringe groups: One-ness Christians, Jehovah’s’ Witnesses,etc. Then many Protestants noted his (Shimun/Shamoun) slow descent into the Latin Roman Catholic Church.

For the following videos we want to give credit to the following YouTube account to which the videos were uploaded:https://x.com/Farid_0v

Warning: There is very and we do mean, very filthy language! As is known: There Is No Hate, Quite Like Christian Love


Here is this guy, Shamoun (Shimun), who used to watch this other Anti-Muslim Christian make mistakes and flawed arguments but would keep this from the Christians! He only now brings it up because of the mutual hatred in their hearts for each other!

Look at the deception, dear Christian truth seekers! We know that you people are fed up with lies and many of you are sincere! There is an emptiness in your heart and a longing for the truth!

@0:36 “There’s a video on YouTube Muslim exposed him they made 100 mistakes, CP does” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “Say it again?”
“100 mistakes CP does in Arabic.” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “And you know Arabic! You’ve seen it right?”
“yeah yeah!” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “But you didn’t want to say anything out of love for the brethren right?”

Prima Qur’an comments: So Christians have no moral obligation to tell the truth? Is it ok to let other Christians deceive and lie to fellow Christians as long as it makes Islam look bad?

This is as much an admission about Hassamo (Shimun) and his moral ineptitude as it is this guy who goes by the moniker CP. If it was for the sake of not calling out another Christian in front of others, why not take him to the side and discuss privately? Why let this go on and on and for how long?!

However, when Christians have a rift with one another, then is it no longer fine for Christians to deceive other Christians in regard to their competency in the Arabic language, among other matters?! WoW!

Now Hassamo (Shimun) claims those that follow this CP guy are not mentally stable and even says he himself is not mentally stable!

Here is Hassamo (Shimun) exposing this CP guy for not being able to adequately answer a basic fundamental question on the Biblical canon!

Watch as two Christians filled with and guided by the Holy Spirit absolutely tear into each other.

Recently there was a debate held between a Muslim: Mohamed Hijab of the United Kingdom and a Christian: William Lane Craig of the United States.


The Muslim: Mohamed Hijab won that particular debate handedly. After the debate, there was something akin to a CNN or Fox News “Spin Room” session that we see after Presidential Debates. This debate review served as a sort of ‘damage control’. What was truly shocking is that the Christian side, as a guest, was someone who had no background in Christian or Islamic theology or no formal training whatsoever. In fact, that person is a self-identified Atheist!

Which again goes to show you. It is no longer about saving souls for Jesus as it is about attacking Islam.

For those many sincere Christians out there struggling, groping in the darkness and looking for answers, do not be duped by the very people who would be fine with lying to you and fine with others lying to you. May Allah (swt) guide the sincere among you.

“Their malice for each other is intense: you think they are united, yet their hearts are divided. That is because they are a people with no understanding.” (Qur’an 59:14)

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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There is no evidence that the Nizari Isma’ili Imam can properly recite the Qur’an.

“And We have certainly made the Quran easy to remember. So is there anyone who will be mindful?” (Qur’an 54:40)

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Our colleague relates the encounter.

Imagine if you will that you have a son or a daughter that informs you that they wish to get married. You sit down with your son or daughter and ask them the following: “What do you wish for a life partner?” “What are some of the traits or qualities you would like to have in a life partner?” Their response is: “I don’t have any standards, I will just take anything!”

That response is the surest way of knowing that they are not ready for marriage at all!

This Muslim Ummah needs to have some standards. We are talking about elementary standards. We are talking about ‘the bare minimum‘.


If one is going to be acclaimed to be the commander of the faithful, the Imam of the Muslims, the Imam is such that if you do not recognize him you die the death of an unbeliever, then at the very least you had best be able to recite the Qur’an. That is not asking for much. It is, however, asking the Ummah to require some very basic standards.

So, no, we are not talking about theology, we are not talking about jurisprudence, we are not talking about philosophy. We are asking a very basic simple question: “Can you Qur’an tho?”

I do not know about other Muslims, but I would like my commander of the faithful and my Imam to be able to recite the Qur’an at ….the….very…..least.

In fact, this may be a very interesting academic article. When did the Imams of the Nizari Isma’ili community begin to distance themselves from the Qur’an? In other words, when did these phenomena of having an insouciant relationship with the Qur’an begin? Which of the Nizari Isma’ili imams set this off?

So recently, when encountering one of many arguments that took place in the wild world of X (Twitter). I saw some mutual fat shaming going on between Imam Hamza wald Maqbul and Professor Khalil Andani.

So, being mildly agitated by this bickering, I put out a challenge to both men.

It was quite a simple and straight-forward point-blank challenge to Professor Andani and Imam Hamza wald Maqbul. I challenged Professor Andani to produce for us the Aga Khan reciting the Qur’an in public. I also challenged Imam Hamza wald Maqbul to produce an example of him reciting the Qur’an in public.

To be quite honest, I do not doubt that Imam Hamza wald Maqbul can properly recite the Qur’an. Professor Andani, over all, is a guy who can comprehend more than basic English. Thus, his response was puzzling.

Produce for us the Aga Khan reciting the Qur’an in public. Professor Andani did the best he could, so he meekly offered: “Karim Aga Khan led the Ismailis in Eid Namaz twice in the 1940s as a child. Obviously he can recite the Quran, which he did during namaz.”

It was after this comment that I now publicly retract every glowing attribute I gave to Professor Andani during his debate with Jake Brantecella. Do I think Professor Andani won that debate? Absolutely. However, after I am quite dismayed at the response given by Professor Andani.

First there is the matter of plain English. “Produce for us the Aga Khan reciting the Qur’an in public.” That is people in the Julian calendar year of 2024.

Second, to make claims that (Professor Andani) himself did not witness is not “obvious” at all. Claims that he led the Eid prayer twice in the 1940s is not proof that he can properly recite the Qur’an. We want proof that Karim, the son of Joan Yarde-Buller, can properly recite the Qur’an.

Then Professor Andani gave another meek reply: “Quran is part of Namaz.” Indeed, it is. Indeed, it is. One could do the dhur prayer or asr prayer. In many schools of jurisprudence, the Qur’an is not recited out loud. Meaning that one would not be able to ascertain that one could properly recite the Qur’an.  I will give the benefit of the doubt and say that it is possible that he may not be aware of this.

However, as the Eid Prayers have parts where the Qur’an is recited out loud, one could assume that a person knows how to properly recite the Qur’an. However, the idea that Karim, the son of Joan Yarde-Buller, did so twice as a child, of which Professor Andani did not witness (as he was not even born then) as being obvious has to be one of the most obtuse statements ever.

Ultimately, it is an admission of being unable to answer the challenge. The man, Karim, the son of Joan Yarde-Buller, became the Imam around/at the age of 20. He is currently 83 years of age. For 60 years on this Earth there is no evidence for us to ascertain whether this man can properly recite the Qur’an. You can turn the internet upside down and inside out, and you will find no evidence of him being able to recite the Qur’an at all.

Professor Andani doesn’t strike me as someone who wouldn’t bring his ‘A’ game. However, he hasn’t been the most forthcoming with Christians when he shows them his chart. You know the one:

The one that leaves out the Virgin birth of Christ Jesus (quite important to every Christian under the sun).

The one that leaves out the second coming of Jesus:

So all you Christians interacting with Professor Andani, open up your eyes and don’t be blind to it!

Thus, the meek response that Professor Khalil Andani is now proof positive for the whole world that it was the best he can do in the way of evidence. Meaning that there was some event that he himself did not witness or partake in which it is said that Karim, the son of Joan Yarde-Buller, twice as a child, led the Eid prayers. No evidence at all that he can properly read the Qur’an.

It is disheartening. If I thought for one moment that Karim, the son of Joan Yarde-Buller, was the commander of the faithful, the Imam of the Muslims how I would love to have his recitation of the Qur’an. How it could console me in dark times! Just to hear the cadence of his voice and the unison of heart and tongue as his holiness brought forth a most sublime and majestic recitation.

Unfortunately, for the Nizari, Isma’ili will never get this experience. Hey! There are always his sons! Perhaps they may take up seriously the learning to read the Qur’an! Or would that be a problem?

Is that the issue? How can someone who is not Allah’s divine representative on Earth possibly teach the divine representative the Qur’an?

*** UPDATE ***

There is an update to this article. Professor Andani thought he would give it one more shot.

First let me start with a major correction to Professor Andani.

Professor Andani states: “Your post is just a slander against me and the Ismaili Imamat.”

First, I do not see how stating the truth about something of which Professor Andani has failed time and again to prove the opposite of is slander.

Second, a major correction. It is more correct and circumspect to say Nizari Ismaili Imamat! It is hubris to think the Nizrari branch represents the entirety of Ismailism. It does not represent the Musta’li Ismai’li branch. A branch which includes the Dawoodi-Taybi as well as the Sulaymani-Tabi.as well as the Sulaymani-Tabi.

In fact, considering the Musta’li Ismai’li consider the Nizari claims null and void, they could very well be delighted to see such challenges. They may even be reading this article with a certain sense of satisfaction. They may be hoping that their Ismai’li brothers, who are following a man who has not been proven to recite the Qur’an with proper recitation, may decide to leave the Nizari and follow them instead!

Ladies and gentlemen. Dear truth seekers. A picture of a boy standing with his hands behind his ears is not proof that he can properly recite the Qur’an.

Imagine if you will there are people who doubted claims that, when I was an eight-year-old little girl I stood in front of the congregation of my church and recited the entire chapter of the book of Acts (King James Version) with perfect memory and no errors.

Then some people doubted this claim. So my mother, driven by emotional attachment to her daughter, rushes to produce a picture of me as an eight-year-old little girl in Church. “Here is your evidence!”

Surely one can see the futility of such.

If you enjoyed the above article you maybe interested in the following:

In this article we did our level best to help the Imami Shi’a solve a dilemma (the Ismaili included) we have not found any contemporary approaches among the Imami Shi’a to approach this dilemma.

https://primaquran.com/2024/01/30/imami-shia-700-years-no-imam-and-no-prophet/

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/17/ismaili-shia-and-circular-reasoning/

May Allah guide the Ummah.

May Allah forgive the Ummah.

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Ibadis encourage Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz to stop the cursing of Ali at the pulpits

“Indeed, Allah commands justice, grace, as well as generosity to close relatives. He forbids indecency, wickedness, and aggression. He instructs you so perhaps you will be mindful.” (Qur’an 16:90)

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Translation of the above text: (Al-Jawahir Al-Muntaqah الجواهر المنتقاه The selected gems By Abul-Qasem Bin Ibrahim Al-Barradi -May Allah have mercy on him pg. 220)

Now you know the truth.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah!

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Russia: The Jewish Autonomous Oblast

Say: “Whether you conceal what is in your hearts or reveal it, Allah will know it.” He knows what is in the heavens and what is in the earth. Allah is powerful over everything.” (Qur’an 3:29)

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There are two official Jewish jurisdictions in the world. One of which is occupied Palestine (otherwise known as the Zionist entity Israel) and the other is JAO, or the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. This is in accord with Article 65 of the Constitution of Russia.

The total land area of JOA, the Jewish Autonomous Oblast is 36,000  km2 or (14,000 sq miles). This makes it larger than the State of Israel (occupied Palestine), which is only 20,770km2 or (8,000-8500 sq miles).

So these Khazarian Turks do have a place to go. They can go to JOA. They can leave Palestine alone.

Way over there right above one of the world’s largest economies, China.

This is their flag.

Very similar to the flag of the ultra confused alphabet people, i.e. (LGBTQ+)

So now you know.

May Allah guide the Ummah.

May Allah forgive the Ummah.

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