Are Ibadi Muslims Kharijites?

“Oh my Lord, increase me in knowledge.”  (Qur’an 20:114)

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RECLAIMING THE HISTORICAL NARRATIVE FROM THE ORIENTALIST AND FROM THE DETRACTORS OF TRUTH.

One thing that you will often hear from Orientalist as well as from our fellow Muslim brothers are two mistaken ideas.

#1) That Ibadi are Khawarij.

#2) That Ibadi grew out of the Khawarij.

Let’s address the first point.

The definition of Khawarij

Khawarij = “The ones that have gone out or have come out.”

In the Arabic language, it has no negative connotation in and of itself.

One of the largest Muslim daw’ah groups in the world our brothers” The Tablighi Jamaat” go out on Khuruj -going out in the path of Allah for 40 days.

“So from wherever you go out (kharajta)turn your face toward al- Masjid al-haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:149)

The Day they will hear the blast in truth. That is the(yawmu-khuruji) Day of Emergence.” (Qur’an 50:42)

The other point is that this term has is a polemical term used to disparage certain groups of Muslims. If we examine the polemical usage of the word than all the qualities that are used to say this particular sect is khawarij are equally applicable to all other factions and sects.

Unless, suddenly, we are going to pretend that we don’t have people saying that if you claim the Qur’an is created you should be killed.    

In fact, for those who are genuinely interested in this subject, I highly recommend you read this 47 page PDF file. That has a nice big font and easy to read. Straight to the point.   Al-Khawarij

The points that are made in the above article are sound.

#1 Ask your people to define the term Khawarij.

What is the Arabic etymological root of the word and what does it mean in the Arabic language.   Once this is done please proceed to point 2.

#2 Now with that definition in mind ask on what consistent basis is this not applied to Talha and Zubhair?

Why are Talha and Zubhair not called Khawarij for opposing Ali?

Ali Ibn Abu Talib was the rightful amir of Muslims at that time was he not?

#3 Now with that definition in mind ask on what consistent basis is this not applied to Mu’awiya or Amr ibn Al ‘As?

Why is not Mu’awiya and Amr ibn al as not called a Khawarij for opposing Ali?

Ali Ibn Abu Talib was the rightful amir of the Muslims at that time was he not?

This in and of itself shows the supreme bias and inconsistency when the narrative is being told by certain historical narratives.

In fact did you know in Al Tabari Ali calls Mu’awiya as khawarij?

Ali identifies Mu’awiya as the Khawarij!

‘Ali told one of his followers named Al-Ashtar: “I told you that I assigned to Muhammed bin Abi Bakr the governorship (of Egypt); (but) these Khawarij have revolted against him.” Thus, according to ‘Ali, Mu’awiya and his followers were the Khawarij.

Sources: (Al-Tabari Al-Taarikh Vol. 6, p. 31.)

Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri’s hadith about Khawarij point to Mu’awiya and his Syrian forces.

Al-Hakim in his Al-Mustadrak narrates on the authority of Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri that when asked about the Khawarij, Abu Said’s answer pointed to Mu’awiya and his Syrian followers as being the Khawarij. That was why, in his answer, he quoted the Blessed Prophet (saw) as saying: “Ammaar (bin Yasir) would be killed by a rebellious group” and he was, as a matter of fact, killed by the Syrian forces who were under the leadership of Mu’awiya. This can be taken to show that the Khawarij, in the view of Abu Sa’id, were Mu’awiya and his followers otherwise he would need not to have mentioned them as his answer to the question of “Who were the Khawarij

Sources: (Refer to Al-Hakim Al-Mustadrak Vol. 2, p. 162-163. tradition no. 2653. Ibn Abdi Rabih Al-Iqdu Al-Farid Vol)

*Note* some publications have began to remove the reference in Al-Hakim!

The group that orientalist and the Shi’i and Ahl Sunnah as  “Khawarij”  believed that the blood of other Muslims who simply differ with them is permissible to take. They often make takfir of other Muslims -whereas we Ibadi Muslims do not do this.

Those other groups do not recognize Uthman and Ali as rightful Amir’s of the Muslims whereas we Ibadi Muslims recognize them. We simply admit that the latter part of Uthman’s reign suffered from nepotism and other issues. With Ali’s reign, It was his decision to abandon the Qurra as well as the clear guidance that Allah (swt) gave in the Qur’an. His killing of the companions at Nahrawan was not just.

Now while we are on the subject of taking the life of a fellow Muslim being a small matter let us take a look at something interesting.

Ali said:

Whenever I narrate to you anything from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) believe it to be absolutely true as falling from the sky is dearer to me than that of attributing anything to him (the Holy Prophet) which he never said. When I talk to you of anything which is between me and you (there might creep some error in it) for the battle is an outwitting. I heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) as saying: There would arise at the end of the age a people who would be young in age and immature in thought, but they would talk (in such a manner) as if their words are the best among the creatures. They would recite the Qur’an, but it would not go beyond their throats, and they would pass through the religion as an arrow goes through the prey. So when you meet them, kill them, for in their killing you would get a reward with Allah on the Day of Judgement.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim/12/199)

Now my dear fellow Muslims, and researchers of truth. The very wording of this hadith is bizarre. First, the way that Ali Ibn Abu Talib words the hadith as if he is saying, “By the way, I know you people may have some doubts in me but trust me I won’t lie about the Prophet.”

The way that Ali prefaced the hadith merits some sober reflection.

So what does this particular hadith suggest that you do with these extremists? Does it suggest you try and reason with them? Does it suggest that you capture them? No. It tells you that you should kill them and that in fact, Allah will give you a reward for it. That sounds quite extreme indeed.

Let us now address the second point:

Ibadi did not come from the so-called “Khawarij” nor are we a branch of them. It is more appropriate and truthful to say that this polemical term has been used about us Ibadi’s as well as those from the Azraqi, Najdi, and Surfriya. The major point that we, the Ibadi, hold in common with them is that all three of these groups are in AGREEMENT on ONE FINE POINT history.

In the sense that all these groups are in agreement that Ali was in error in his decision to make arbitration with Muaviya.

Thus, in that sense, we are all known previously as (Al Muhakkimah), or those who adopt Quranic verses for resolving any issue or quarrel, it is just what Allah (swt) told us we should do. Please refer to the Qur’an (5:50 & 4:65, in the least)

The above graph has been taken and modified by some youtubers.

With the coming of Abdullah ibn Ibadh al-Murri al-Tamimi (r) this is when the Al Muhakkimah already became subgroups.

All that can be said about the above groups is that are in agreement that Ali should not have made arbitration with Muaviya.  Just like all Muslims are in agreement that Allah (swt) is one. Logically this does not mean that all Muslims have the same ideas about everything else.

The Nukkaris broke away from the Ibadi’s briefly than came back to the Ibadi. The Surfriyya eventually became absorbed into the Ibadi school in North Africa.  The Najdiyya, Azraqi, Bayhasiyya, and whomever else did not survive until today.

Some groups are known as the Azraqi, Najdi, and others, these are the people whom the Shi’i, Sunni, and Orientalists refer to as “Khawarij”. It is these groups that became quite extreme in their views. For anyone who has studied history knows that Ibadi’s directed polemical writings towards these other groups, especially the Azraqi and the Surfriyya.

For those of you who understand and speak Arabic, we would highly recommend this lecture.

Insh’Allah may your eyes be opened wide! 

For those who do not speak or understand Arabic see the excellent write up by sister Bint Ibadh here:

http://bintibadh.blogspot.com/2013/01/abdullah-ibn-ibadh-truth-voice.html

The Ibadi after Abdullah ibn Ibadh (raheemullah). -They believe in peaceful existence and dialogue with other Muslims. They marry other Muslims and perform the funeral prayers for them as well. One brother from Saudi Arabia recently said to a friend of ours, “You Ibadi are Khawarij, Shi’a,  you support Iran!”   

To which my friend replied, “We don’t support Iran, or Saudi Arabia or anyone. We support the Muslims. Who is doing to killing in Yemen? It is Sunni and Shi’a. Who is doing the fighting in Iraq? It is Sunni and Shi’a. Who is doing the killing in Syria? It is Sunni and Shi’a not us.  You will not find a single Ibadi scholar anywhere giving a fatwa in support of any side of these conflicts.”

In fact, the only struggle that we know of that we areaware of that Ibadi scholar support is the struggle of the Palestinians (Muslims) against the (Zionist). It seems that these other sectarian wars are a diversion to distract from this!

We would like to imagine that if we Ibadi had a powerful state today that we would come to the aid of Muslims anywhere, no matter if they are Sunni, Shi’i, Salafi, or Sufi, as they are all the ummah of Muhammed (saw)!! 

In fact, the proof is in the example of the Ibadi community in Oman. We marry both Sunni and Shi’i and we have a beautiful and fruitful relationship with them. In fact, out of all the Arab nations, there is not a single representative in ISIS from Oman! Al hamdulillah!

We would direct you to the following article: https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/the-world/middle-east-north-africa/3223-ibadis-are-ray-of-hope-for-the-middle-east

We would also like to add that in this world of chaos and turmoil it is more important than ever not to intentionally misrepresent one another.  It is very important that we cooperate and work together as much as possible.

For example, Our brothers among the Sunni have actually mocked their own intellectual giants, Imam Ahmed and Imam Abu Hanifa while in the process of mocking others.  The following article is demonstrative of that.  By mocking the beliefs of others it shows that these two giants among our brothers from Ahl Sunnah are people who are ignorant of the views of their interlocutors.

This certainly is embarrassing and not the way forward dear Muslims and fellow truth seekers.

The most glaring example used by our brothers from Ahl Sunnah as well as uniformed orientalist is that we Ibadi’s do not believe in arbitration.

Please see the following article to understand what we are talking about.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

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Salafis Bilal Philips and Assim al Hakeem lie about Imam Malik and the prayer.

“And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know it.” (Qur’an 2:42)

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In Islam, one of our most cherished principles is to cover up the faults of others. To be tactful in how we correct each other. Yet, this needs to be balanced with those who are recalcitrant and unwilling to admit to their errors. When their publications and social media become widely viewed, the layperson takes at face value what is said than something must be done.

One of the more unfortunate things is that those who are claimants of a movement called ‘Salafiyah’ are being woefully uninformed about the prayer of the Blessed Messenger (saw). Namely, by saying that praying with arms to the side is some sort of innovative practice. When in reality that IS the default way the Blessed Messenger (saw) prayed!

One of those who have circulated this misunderstanding is the Salafi preacher Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips. Bilal Philips has otherwise benefited the English-speaking Muslim community through his media lectures and audio series.

We as human beings make mistakes. We hope that one day Allah (swt) will encourage him to correct this error.

In his book he says:

“He was severely beaten in the year 764 CE by the order of the Ameer of Madeenah, because he made a legal ruling that forced divorce was invalid. This ruling opposed the ‘Abbaasid rulers’ practice of adding in the oath of allegiance given to them by the masses the clause that whoever broke the oath was automatically divorced. Malik was tied and beaten until his arms became severely damaged to such a degree that he became unable to clasp them on his chest in Salaah and thus he began the practice of praying with his hands at his sides according to some reports.”

Source: (pg. 78. The Evolution of Fiqh Islamic Law & The Madh-habs By Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips International Islamic Publishing House.)

“Some reports” such as? Doesn’t Abu Ammenah Bilal Philips have to give his evidence or are we just supposed to accept what he said? No asterisk *, no footnote with a source or reference. Unforutnately, Bilal Philips gives us nothing.

Can such a claim be verified by and in any of the traditionally relied upon books of Islamic history? No! One will be hard-pressed to find any evidence substantiating this argument.

Remember what Allah said:

“Verily, those who conceal the clear proofs, evidence, and the guidance, which We have sent down after We have made it clear for the people in the Book, they are the ones cursed by Allah and cursed by those who curse.” (Qur’an: 2:159)

So where is the proof?

Secondly, how could Imam Malik not have enough strength to clasp his hands on his chest but still be able to do the tabkir—, go into ruku, and go into sajdah and to push his hands up from sujuud, since Imam Malik’s view is that the knees go up than the hands after sajdah?

What about all the other Tabieen who prayed the way Imam Malik did? Did each one of them have their arms broken as well?

Also, don’t you think Imam Malik would have said as plain as day, “Hey everyone, as you know, I’m only praying this way because my arm was pulled out of my socket, don’t follow me, follow the Blessed Messenger!”

Next are the flat untruths coming from Assim al Hakeem.

Listen to what Assim al Hakeem says @0:25

Some scholars say that the followers of Imam Malik started doing this when he started praying like that. Why would Imam Malik, Imam Dar Al Hijra, pray like that way? He knows that the Sunnah of the Prophet (as) as in the hadith of Wail Ibn Hujr (May Allah be pleased with him) was to put the right over the left on the chest and this is the sunnah of all the prophets. Why would Imam Malik do this? The reason was that at some time or period of history there was a disagreement between the Muslim ruler and Imam Malik; which happens throughout history with all scholars. This happened with Imam Ahmad. This happened with Imam Abu Hanifa. This happened with uh Imam Ibn Taymiyah, who died in prison. All great scholars are tested; and usually if they don’t kiss the backside or they don’t polish shoes, they will be thrown in jail. This is the norm. So there was this disagreement which Imam Malik refused to compromise the religion, which led then to a Muslim ruler to flog him and beat him in prison. That led to an injury to his arm which prevented him from being able to lift it so he began to pray with his arms to his side. Some of his disciples and students (apparently who were not very smart followed that way of prayer instead of going back to his books, to his hadiths that he used to teach to learn how the prophet used to pray. And they mimicked that and made it part of their religion, or part of their school of thought. Which is totally bogus. Which is totally not true. And Ali my friend as a Muslim we have to go back to the references, Qur’an and Sunnah. Not to what Tom, Dick and Harry did (with all due respect to THEM), but Allah ordered us to follow the Qur’an and the Sunnah. And people differ. People have their different preferences, and understanding of things. So we are not to get closer to Allah by THEIR understanding rather by the Qur’an and the Sunnah whereby the understanding of the three favourite generations, the companions, tabi’een and tab’tabi’een.”

Let us analyze what Shaykh Assim al Hakeem says.

“Some scholars say.” Who are these scholars? What do they base their statements on?

“Some of his disciples and students (apparently who were not very smart) followed that way of prayer instead of going back to his books, to his hadiths that he used to teach to learn how the prophet used to pray. And they mimicked that and made it part of their religion.”

Let us do a little thought experiment. Let us assume the arms were broken, so he prayed like that story checks out. So this means….

Group A

Imam Malik was negligent.

Direct students of Imam Malik started doing that. Imam Malik was derelict in his duties and said nothing while his students did innovation in their prayer. This is a huge evil to attribute to Imam Malik.

Which of these students, who were “apparently who were not very smart” started this innovative practice? Was it:

  • Asad ibn al Furat ?
  • Ibn al-Qasim ?
  • Sahnun ?
  • Ashhab ibn ‘Abd al-Aziz ?

Group B.

The students of Imam Malik’s students innovated this practice.

All of Imam Malik’s students were faithful and diligent in following the Sunnah. However, the students of these teachers decided to start practicing sadl in honour of Imam Malik being tortured. So then, when they started to do this, why didn’t their teachers (the students of Imam Malik) stop them? Why would they do what their teachers were not even doing?

ABU HANIFA, IMAM MALIK, IMAM SHAFI’I, IMAM AHMAD = (TOM, DICK, AND HARRY) ?

Not to what Tom, Dick and Harry did (with all due respect to THEM), but Allah ordered us to follow the Qur’an and the Sunnah. And people differ. People have their different preferences, and understanding of things. So we are not to get closer to Allah by THEIR understanding.”

The shocking and dismissive statements directed at some of his own great scholars are most unfortunate. This is nothing new for the Salafi preachers. In one breath he speaks of Imam Malik as ‘Imam Dar Al Hijra‘, and in the next breath he is just a ‘Tom, Dick or Harry‘.

I guess we as Muslims, those that follow the Ibadi school, shouldn’t be shocked when some of the more uneducated among the ‘Salafiyah’ call us dogs, and kafir. After all, these men will refer to their own Imams as ‘Tom, dick or harry’. This makes for an unfortunate discourse.

May Allah (swt) guide them and us to a way and course that is just.

Shaykh Assim Al-Hakeem has yet to correct his lie concerning Imam Malik. However, he has stated in public it is no problem if you leave your arms to the side.

You can see that:

If you are keen to learn the prayer of Blessed Prophet (saw) may the following be helpful for you!

You may also be interested to read:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/the-ibadhis-follow-the-blessed-sunnah-of-opening-the-hands-in-the-prayer/

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Salafi Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem”You can pray with arms to the side.”

“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example for him who hopes in Allah and the last day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21)

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Malik ibn al-Huwayrith reported: The Prophet, (saw), said, “Pray as you have seen me praying. When the time of prayer arrives, let one of you announce the call to prayer for you and then let the older of you leader the prayer.” Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:631)

Salafi Shaykh Assim Al-Hakeem repeated a whopper of a lie about Imam Malik (and the way he performed prayer). He has yet to publically correct his position. He has also yet to provide us any evidence of his claims.

This is the article with his previous (incorrect) position parroting the mistake of Salafi preacher, Bilal Philips.

Shaykh Assim al-Hakeem metions about praying with the arms to the side.







Shaykh Assim Al-Hakeem says: “The, the famous dispute among Muslims rather to put my hand over the belly, on the chest or under the belly. Akhi if you pray, Al hamdulillah! Five times a day on time in the masjid it’s o.k where you want to put your hand. There are a hadith that stated, hadith Wail Ibn Hujr (May Allah be pleased with him) that the prophet used to put the right over the left on the chest. Now there are other hadiths that state that he used to put it, them under the navel or on his stomach. Wherever you feel good about do it! It is a Sunnah, SO EVEN IF YOU DON’T PUT YOUR HANDS ALTOGETHER, IF YOU JUST PUT THEM ON YOUR SIDE YOUR PRAYER IS VALID. YOUR PRAYER IS CORRECT. But, you should try your level best to follow the most authentic hadith and I, uh, uh, uh believe that the most authentic hadith which Al Albani (May Allah have mercy on him) also authenticated states that you put them on the chest.”

If you are keen to learn the prayer of Blessed Prophet (saw) may the following be helpful for you!

You may also be interested to read:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Response to Salafi Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem On praying behind an Ibadi

“So High above all is Allah, the King, the True. And do not hasten with (reciting) the Qur’an before its revelation to you is concluded, and say, “My Lord, improve me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)

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This entry was written as a response to a well-known Salafi Preacher by the name of Assim Al-Hakeem.

He has unfortunately uploaded a video in which he attacks Ahl al-Haqq wa-l istiqama (The People of Truth and Straightness). This is possibly due to one of three reasons.

Reason 1 is due to his lack of understanding. 

Reason 2: maybe he made these statements about the Ibadi school while under the influence of alcohol. That is because Assim Al-Hakeem told young people all over the world that he “drinks beer” and that he is “proud of that.” So it is possible he made his comments while under the influence of intoxicants.

Reason 3 is this: Assim lied about his own Sunni Imam (Imam Malik) and it is not above him to willfully lie about the Ibadi or tell half-truths. May Allah (swt) guide him to a more just course.

Reason 1. His lack of understanding. No proper knowledge.

“Mabrouk says, who are the Ibaadiyyah? The Ibaadiyyah is a faction of Al Khawarij. It is one of the 72 sects that the Prophet (a.s) warned us from, dividing into. They follow the Khawarij; but they are a softer copy of the hard core Khwarij. And this what called Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (May Allah have mercy on his soul) to describe them as being the gay part of the Khawarij. They’re so gay compared to the Khawarij, that gives takfir and to have bloodshed. They are close in the attributes of Allah (Azawajal) to the Mutazila. So they deny allot of Allah’s attributes. They have their own misinterpretation when it comes to the scale and to the siraat. And to the things related to yom al qiyyamah (the day of judgement). They also believe that those who commit major sins are kafir, like the Khawarij. But they, it is is permissible to marry them. So they believe that those who are not from the Ibaadiyyah like us, they can marry from us and they can inherit from us. But we are, we will be in hellfire forever. And they have so many weird things. They believe the Qur’an is created and it is not one of Allah’s attributes. They believe that it is impossible to see Allah in paradise. So it’s a deviant cult. And allot of the scholars say that you must not pray behind them as the prayer would not be accepted and Allah knows best.”

The response to the Salafi Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem.

First point.

Assim says about us, “They’re so gay compared to the Khawarij, that gives takfir and to have bloodshed.”

Yet, he is the one who says, “And allot of the scholars say that you must not pray behind them as the prayer would not be accepted and Allah knows best.” Talk about takfir!

Second point.

Assim says about us,

They have their own misinterpretation when it comes to the scale and to the siraat. And to the things related to yom al qiyyamah (the day of judgement).” He did not elaborate on what those things were. So it is challenging to comment upon what he did not elaborate upon.

Third point.

Assim says about us,

So they deny allot of Allah’s attributes.” What attributes do they think we are denying? It is actually Assim Al-Hakeem’s group who make up attributes about Allah (swt).

Ibn ‘Uthaymeen stated:

“We believe that Allah, The Most High, has two real eyes. And this is the saying of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamā’ah. Abul-Hasan Al-Ash’aree said: The saying of Ahlus-Sunnah and the As-hāb Al-Hadeeth is that Allah has two eyes, without saying ‘how’ just as Allah has said, “[It was] sailing under Our Eyes.” (54:14).”

Source: (See Izālatus-Sitār ‘an Al-Jawāb Al-Mukhtār li-Hidāyatil-Muhtār of Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, p. 22; also Al-Maqālāt Al-Islāmiyyeen 1/345)

There is nowhere in the Qur’an or the Sunnah that says Allah “has two real eyes.”

The following video is for your educational purpose.

A typical conversation between us Ibadi and those who claim we deny the attributes of Allah (swt) usually goes like this.

Fourth Point.

Assim says about us,

They also believe that those who commit major sins are kafir, like the Khawarij.”

If you want to read our understanding of this, based upon the Qur’an and Sunnah you may see the following:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/the-position-of-the-ibadi-school-on-muslims-who-commit-major-sins/

Sixth point,

Assim says about us,

But we are, we will be in hellfire forever.”

This is quite a statement considering Preacher Assim believes in the hadith of the 73 sects. So we could ask Preacher Assim. “Are the Ibadi part of the saved group or not?” We don’t say simply because someone is not Ibadi, they will be in hellfire forever! That is false. Please see what our noble Shaykh says here:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/do-only-ibadis-go-to-heaven/

Seventh point,

Assim says about us,

They believe the Qur’an is created, and it is not one of Allah’s attributes.”

That part is true. The Qur’an is created. It is not an attribute of Allah (swt). Although Allah (swt) does have the attribute of Speech. You may see our position here:

Eighth point,

Assim says about us,

They believe that it is impossible to see Allah in paradise.”

That part is true. We stick to the evidence of the Qur’an & Sunnah. No one will see Allah (swt). Not in this life, not in the life to come.

Reason 2. Assim Al-Hakeem was under the influence of alcohol. He was intoxicated when he made such statements.

“I drink beer, and I’m proud of that. But the beer I drink before you quote me for that is from Saudi Arabia, and it has 2% maybe 3% alcohol, and it’s legal, and it’s halal. One says, “Oh, it has alcohol!” Akhi, If I drink half a pack, nothing happens.”

Now the individual who made the video above chooses to use the pejorative ‘Wahabi’. However, I prefer to use the term ‘Salafi’. 

Now, obviously, images of Muslim youths breaking their Ramadan fast with a bottle of 3% Hoegaarden beer and dates do not sit well with many more sensible Muslims.

There was lots of backlash and so Assim issued a retraction, clarification, kind of, sort of, not really…. 
The Preacher Assim continues…. “The presence of alcohol, if you consume a large amount of it, and you are not intoxicated, this means that it is permissible to consume.” Because why is wine haram? Because if you drink a lot of it you become intoxicated. If I have a barrel of whatever substance, and I’m not wasted, I’m not intoxicated, then drinking a little bit is o.k. But, if I have a bottle of a liquid of a drink and if I drink the whole bottle, I become wasted, I become drunk, then a single drop of it is haram.

Preacher Assim is following the view of the famous Salafi Shaykh, Saleh Al-Uthaymeen. The same one above who says that Allah (swt) has “two very real eyes.”

May Allah guide us!

Shaykh Saleh Al-Uthaymeen gave a controversial beer drinking fatwa.

Please do not listen to people like Shaykh Saleh Al-Uthaymeen or Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem! Please listen to someone sensible like Shaykh Mufti Menk on this matter!

Reason 3. Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem lied about a Sunni Imam (Imam Malik); and it is not above him to willfully lie about the Ibadi or tell half-truths.

You read the following and you decide.

Preacher Assim Al-Hakeem otherwise makes himself available to people via social media. It is not sure what his methodology is or the school that he follows. However, he is to be warned against because he gravitates towards a flippant and non-sober approach to many issues that demand sobriety.

May Allah (swt) guide him and us!


“Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is guided.” (Qur’an 16:125)

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.


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Complete Salah (Prayer) based only on Sahih hadith impossible?

“Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemple for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21) 

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Malik ibn Al-Huwayrith reported:

We came to the Prophet (saw) while we were young men, and we stayed with him twenty nights. Then the Prophet considered that we were anxious to see our families, so he asked us who we had left behind to take care of them, and we told him. The Prophet was kindhearted and merciful, and he said, “Return to your families, teach them, and enjoin good upon them.” Pray as you have seen me praying. When the time of prayer arrives, then one of you should announce the call to prayer and the eldest of you should lead the prayer.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6008)

One of the most contentious issues among Muslims, more often than not, has to do with the way the Blessed Messenger (saw) did his prayers. This video below is well worth the listen.  It is done by someone who follows the Hanafi school of jurisprudence, the Sunni denomination of Islam.

What he is explaining is that it is impossible to find a ‘Sahih’ hadith for every single act that is done in the prayer.  He then argues that this is why for some Muslims in the Sunni denomination they decide to follow a school of jurisprudence.

The truth of the matter is that the prayer was established by the Blessed Messenger (saw). It is a mass transmitted sunnah.  The hadith are written records for those who need to furnish proofs for things that were found to be objectionable. Things that stood out as different needed to have proof or evidence, more so than something people picked up as mass practice from those who preceded them and from those who preceded them.

The hadith in book form is a documented sunnah. Sometimes the documented sunnah captures the living sunnah and other times it does not. A proof of this is that the schools of jurisprudence believe that certain acts of the Blessed Prophet (saw) were either abrogated or abandoned altogether. 

Kindly see our article here where we expand upon how the sunnah is received. 

His observation especially when it concerns the opening of the prayer only strengthens the position of the Ibadi school.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Imam ash-Shafi’i Seeing Allah in The Hereafter

But no! In fact, their hearts have been stained by all ˹the evil˺ they used to commit! Undoubtedly, they will be sealed off from their Lord on that Day. Moreover, they will surely burn in Hell.” (Qur’an 83:14-16)

This rather unfortunate clip was uploaded by Sheikh Asrar Rashid, a U.K based Imam. In this clip Sheikh Ramadan Al Bouti quoted from what Imam ash-Shafi’i saw as evidence on ‘seeing‘ Allah (swt).

Believing in seeing Allah Almighty means that Allah (swt) is a thing that can be seen. However, Allah (swt) said: “There is nothing like him.” Secondly, believing that Allah Almighty can be seen means Allah is a limited thing. Visual things are created things.

If we look at those people who say Allah (swt) can be seen where did they reach? They arrived at talking about the structuring of Allah Almighty. They describe Allah Almighty as a temple, as a body, and all this leads to shirk.

On the other hand, these people still insist to follow Jewish beliefs. We do not know why. But it’s a side effect to Islamic belief, the reality and the truth. Jewish were insisting to see Allah Almighty but look what Allah Almighty said and what he has done to them. SubhanAllah in what they say and believe. Praise be to Allah (swt).

“The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us, Allah, outright,” so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We forgave them for that ˹after their repentance˺  And We gave Moses a clear authority.” (Qur’an 4:153)

So let us look at the evidence. The evidence that Sheikh Asrar Rashid brought from Ramadan Al Bouti who brought it from Imam Ash Shafi’i.

But no! In fact, their hearts have been stained by all ˹the evil˺ they used to commit! Undoubtedly, they will be sealed off from their Lord on that Day. Moreover, they will surely burn in Hell.(Qur’an 83:14-16)

This verse does not mean seeing but means waiting the mercy of Allah. We don’t know why they don’t read the verse before and after these two so that they can understand. But the truth is that they search for a chance to support this Jewish belief.

The fact that this verse was quoted out of all possible shows the weakness of this position.

Look at the following statement attributed to Imam Ash Shafi’i:

“If I were not absolutely certain that I was going to see my Lord in the Hereafter, I would not worship Him in this life.”

May Allah (swt) guide us! May Allah (swt) save us and keep our faith from being perverted or distorted. How they can ascribe to the Imam the belief of the atheist! Worship of Allah (swt) is conditioned upon seeing him! Where is this at in the Qur’an and Sunnah?

Well, I am certain that none of us will see Allah (swt) in the Hereafter and I will continue to do my utmost to worship, show gratitude to, obey, love and fear him.

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May Allah forgive the Ummah.

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Imam Khalid Yasin on the Ibadi Perspective.

“Then he who is trusted should deliver his trust, and let him be careful (of his duty to) Allah, his Lord; and do not conceal testimony, and whoever conceals it, his heart is surely sinful; and Allah knows what you do.” (Qur’an 2:283)

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Imam Khalid Yasin is world renown orator and public speaker. He has delivered lectures on Islam all over the world. This is his testimony in regards to his time in Oman and being among those who follow Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The People of Truth and Steadfastness)

Sheikh Khalid Yasin in Oman.

May Imam Khalid Yasin be in good health and in an excellent state of Emaan. May Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

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Salafi preacher: We will see Allah’s face in paradise!

“The Originator of the heavens and the earth; He made mates for you from among yourselves, and mates of the cattle too, multiplying you thereby; there is nothing like unto Him; and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

The faculties of seeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp allseeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)

“Allah has promised the believing men and believing women Gardens beneath which rivers flow. They shall abide in it. There are delightful dwelling places for them in the Gardens of Eternity. They shall, above all, enjoy the good pleasure of Allah. That is the great achievement.” (Qur’an 9:72)

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My friend had his brother in law send him these clips by a preacher from the Salafi sect claiming people will ‘see the face of Allah’ in the paradise.

The preacher in the above video says:

“O Rabb, show Your Face.” “We want to look at You.” “So Allah (swt) Orders for the Hijab to be removed. And the Hijab of Allah Is Light (Noor).” “And you will see your Lord Like you see the sun at its noon Or the moon at its full. ” “There will be faces looking at their Lord. Looking so much so that Allah” (swt)

“May Allah makes us of those who will lay eyes On the Blessed Face of Allah” (swt)

You ever notice how these people talk about seeing the ‘Face of Allah’ ? Why don’t they ask to see the foot of Allah? Why don’t they ask to see the two right hands of Allah? Why don’t they ask to see the shin of Allah? Why would it be shameful to ask that? Does Allah (swt) have attributes that are shameful? Astaghfiurllah! Of course not!

When I asked this of a brother his response was:

“I guess because the face is considered to be the seat of beauty in human beings.”

Right! However,

 
There is nothing like unto Him; and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

AS FAR AS ALLAH (SWT) REMOVING SOME HIJAB….WELL THINK AGAIN!

Curious to see more?

Like where Imam Shafi’i is reported to have said that if he knew he would not see Allah (swt) he would not worship him, even though Allah (swt) NEVER made that a condition of worshipping him.

Curious to see where our brothers play fast and loose with various text to get you to believe that you will see Allah (swt) on the day of judgement?

Allah (swt) has already told us what the great attainment is! It is not seeing his face!

“Allah has promised the believing men and believing women Gardens beneath which rivers flow. They shall abide in it. There are delightful dwelling places for them in the Gardens of Eternity. They shall, above all, enjoy the good pleasure of Allah. That is the great achievement.” (Qur’an 9:72)

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May Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Salafis debate Ibadis on the issue of seeing Allah in the hereafter.

“He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him.(Qur’an 59:23)

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The Salafis agreed to debate The Muslims, The People of Truth and Steadfastness, on the issue of ‘Seeing Allah in the hereafter‘. The Salafis are a people not very strong or grounded in theology.

Our noble Shaykh Masoud ibn Muhammed al Maghbali, from the Muslims debated with representatives of the Salafi sect. Professor Hossam Al-Jed from Egypt. Shaykh Masoud went to Egypt to represent the Muslims, while Professor Hossam Al-Jed represented the Salafi sect.

The full debate can be seen here:

Allah’s victory is in the creed of those whom he has purified. The Muslims, The People of the Truth and Steadfastness. The Professor read from his paper, but our noble Shaykh was confident with the arguments Allah (swt) supplied him from sound theology. All praises be to Allah (swt).


Indeed, the arguments for seeing Allah Almighty are weak.

Did Allah (swt) really reveal himself to that mountain? In the anthropomorphic sense that the Salafi claim?

He appeared in His true form?

Then where is he after this Transfiguration? Did he remain there or did he disappear?

Did he vanish?

Allah (swt) is the friend of the Blessed and Noble Messenger, Ibrahim who said in the same Qur’an:

“When the night overshadowed him, he saw a star and said, “This is my Lord!” But when it went down he said, “I do not like things that vanish.” (Qur’an 6:76)

Then they go against the apparent meaning of the verse:
“The eyes do not perceive him, and he perceives the sight, and he is The Gentle, The Expert.” (Qur’an 6:103)

So they interpreted the word that the eyes cannot see him in another sense contrary to what came in the linguistic dictionaries, where they interpreted perception by ‘encompassing’ as some type of victory for their scandalous and decrepit doctrine.

After these debates many from among the Arabs left the Salafi sect and entered upon the way of the Muslims, The People of The Truth and Steadfastness. The Salafi’s deleted videos. Their Professor Hossam Al-Jed from Egypt was demoted from Professor to ‘Student of Knowledge’. Well, in this case Shaykh Masoud ibn Muhammed al Maghbali is also a student of knowledge.

We continue to call them and all others to the way of the Muslims, To the doctrine of transcendence. For this is the safest and securest road.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

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Salafi Shaykh Muqbil Al Wadi’i Hadith in Sahih Muslim on Seeing Allah is actually weak!

The faculties of seeing (tudriku) cannot grasp Him, and He grasp allseeing (yudriku), He is the All-Subtle and All-Aware.” (Qur’an 6:103)

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Salafi Shaykh Muqbil Al Wadi’i Hadith in Sahih Muslim on Seeing Allah is actually weak!

So Imam Al Daraqutni had a commentary about these hadith. In his book he made notes about these ahadith. Than comes along this big hadith scholar from Yemen. This hadith scholar is from the Salafi sect. His name is Muqbil bin Hadi bin Muqbil bin Qa’idah al-Hamdani al-Wadi’i al-Khallali.

So he took the book written by Imam Al Daraqutni and he made his own notes.

He said about the hadith of Ziyada under Sahih Muslim about the hadith ziyada that the ahl jannah will see Allah (swt) in the Jannah. (Astaghfirullah)

Imam Muqbil al-Wadi’i As Salafi, says this hadith is mistake by Thabit Umani. In the chain, the sanaad.

No one else has ever made this claim other than Muqbil al-Wadi’i Only Thabit al Bunani says this hadith is from Suhayb 

The words of the hadith from Shaykh Thabit Bunani only go up to Abdulrahman bin Abi Laylaa only!

It is not from Suhayb nor from the Blessed Messenger (saw).

The words go up to Shaykh Abdulrahman bin Abi Laylaa (only!)

And according to their statement the mistake is coming by Hamaad bin Salamah. For any Hadith that comes through the channel of this man be careful!

There are four students under Thabit al Bunani

  1. Hammad ibn Salamah
  2. Sulaymān ibn al-Mughīrah
  3. Hammad bin Zayd 
  4. Hamaad bin Waaqid

So this Imam Muqbli is saying the hadith is in Sahih Muslim is either weak or outright fabricated! On this point he is in agreement with the safe road, The Muslims, the Ibadi school.

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May Allah (swt) guide this ummah to what is beloved to Allah (swt). We continue to call the people to the way of the Muslims, To the doctrine of transcendence. The way of the Qur’an and the Sunnah. For this is the safest and securest road.

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