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Does the Biblical Text Assert Two Incarnations?

“Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.” (Qur’an 21:22)

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Two Incarnations? God became a dove? God became a man?

Recall that, according to the majority Christian belief, the Father did not incarnate nor did the Holy Spirit. Unless, of course, you are among those Christians who believe in Patripassianism or a form of Sabellian Trinitarianism.

Our Christian brothers and sisters assert to us that God became fully man.

“For in Christ all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form (somatikos)” (Colossians 2:9)

Yet, they tell us the following:

”And The Holy Ghost descended in bodily form (somatiko) like a dove upon him and a voice came from heaven which said You are my beloved Son in you I am well pleased.” (Luke 3:22)

So here you have:

1) A disembodied voice about which there are two transmissions

a) indicates the voice was not heard by multitudes

b) indicates the voice was heard by the multitudes

2) God incarnated as a dove in bodily form.

3) God incarnated as a human being in bodily form.

What is this all about? Whoever wrote the Gospel of John does not believe that Messiah Esau ibn Maryam (Christ Jesus son of Mary) was born of a virgin.

“The word took upon flesh” (John 1:14)

Just like when you watch Star Trek and people ‘beam up’ and ‘beam down’, so is the case with Jesus according to this writer.

If there is any indication that the Gospel writer ‘John’ believed in a virgin birth, we certainly would like to see proof of that.

Of course, people will object. What about John 3:16 is not the word ‘begotten’ used? Well yes and no. The Greek word monogenes (only kind) does not mean or imply a sexual act or that Christ Jesus was conceived as other human beings were.

However, notice that the Christians love to focus on the idea of God becoming a man or taking on the appearance of a man for the salvation of humanity, yet at the same time they totally shift focus away from the idea of God becoming a dove for the salvation of Jesus.

Save Jesus from what? Save Jesus from being seen as false or not being approved of by God. Yet does this not present a conundrum? If God assumes the form or appearance of man in Christ Jesus, and at the same time, also assumes the form or appearance of a dove, how can anyone with a straight face look you in the eyes and tell you that there is only one God in this picture?

Why do Christians shy away from defending the view that God became a bird, or took on the form of a bird? We will tell you why, because this is where they part from monotheism and enter open polytheism or, at best, pantheism.

Like where the writer of Acts quoted an ancient pagan poet for inspiration.


“For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’ ” (Acts 17:28)

Quote taken from: From the Cretan philosopher Epimenides or From the Cilician Stoic philosopher Aratus

If someone were to assert that the ‘Form’’ was simply an appearance and apparition and not a tangible reality, this would be Gnosticism, because it would also mean that in Colossians 2:9 where it says ‘bodily form’ was also an apparition.

To deny that Jesus came in a tangible bodily form is the spirit of the Anti-Christ.

“Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” (1 John 4:1-3.)

By the way, according to the above text, the Blessed Messenger (saw) is from God because he was made to say:

“The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; other messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.” (Qur’an 5:75)

Check it out! http://biblos.com/luke/3-22.htm

Its’ right here in the Greek Text!

(We have the Majority, Textus Receptus, and Westcott )

God became a man and a bird.

Now you have to ask yourself questions like:

What happened to the dove? Did it live a normal lifespan?

Did it get ‘beamed up’’ like in Star Trek, thus proving right those Christians who said Jesus was an apparition and didn’t have a flesh and blood body?

“And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.” (Qur’an 5:83)

May Allah Guide the Christians before the burn in the eternal hellfire.

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What has your God done for you?

“If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean were ink, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted.” (Qur’an 31:27)

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Once, our colleague had an encounter with a Christian missionary. This is the encounter that took place.

Once, while in the Sultan Mosque in Singapore, a Christian missionary paid us a visit. The man came up to me and, after introducing himself, he asked, ‘What has your God done for you?’


To which my immediate reply to him was, “You see, my brother, that is the wrong question. The question is not ‘What has God done for me’, the question is ‘What has God not done for me?’


My life, my faith, the air we breathe, the ability to see and behold objects of great beauty, to hear the most softness and soothing of sounds, to taste the most delicious of foods, to be healthy, to have been in love, to have been the object of someone’s love. To have parents that loved me and raised me. This beautiful world that we live in. The fact that if we were so much closer to the sun that we would all burn alive and if we were that much further away, this earth would freeze over. This beautiful day, gravity, the opportunity to meet you and share with you some of what God has done for us.” 


I then quoted to him the following verse from the Qur’an. 


“And if whatever trees in the earth were pens, and the sea and seven more seas even after it were to replenish it, yet in no way would the Words of Allah be depleted. Surely Allah is Ever-Mighty, Ever-Wise” (Qur’an 31:27)


If I was to spend my entire life writing words of thanks and praise to Allah (swt) for everything he has done for us, I would need seven more lifetimes, and even then I would fall short of writing words of praise and gratitude.


Subhanallahi Wa Bihamdihi, Subhanallahil Azeem!!! 

 

 

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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The Third Coming of Jesus?

THE THIRD COMING OF JESUS?

“Allah said, O Jesus, I shall cause you to die and will exalt you in my presence and shall purify you of the ungrateful disbelieving people, and shall place those who follow you above those who deny the truth, until the Day of Judgement; then to Me shall all return and I will judge between you regarding your disputes.” (Qur’an 3:55)

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Now we know many are going to be scratching their heads and thinking about “The Third Coming of Jesus”. What could they mean? Well, we know it doesn’t have the grandeur and Hollywood excitement that “The Second Coming” does, but after, it is what it is.


Why don’t Christians and others talk about the “The Third Coming of Jesus” or, for that matter, the “257th Coming of Jesus”? Because it just doesn’t have the bang that Jesus Part 2 has.

Everyone anticipates a good sequel to a great movie. However, it does get overdone when there becomes a Rocky V and then a Rocky VI, one wonders when it will ever end.

You see in the Bible it says the following:


“Now, upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulcher, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulcher….

And returned from the sepulcher, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest…And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus…

… And they rose up at the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together… And as they spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and said unto them, Peace be unto you….

…And as it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and was carried up into heaven.”(Luke 24:1-51) (Mark 16:9-19)

Jesus went up into heaven on the day of his resurrection.

“And after eight days, again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.” (John 20:26) So Jesus went up into heaven at least eight days after his resurrection.

Or was it forty days after his resurrection?

“Until the day in which he was taken up…he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:….And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. (Acts 1:2-3,9)

There are a number of ways to handle this difficulty.

1) Take Luke 24:51 and Mark 16:19 out of the Bible (many have opted for this)

2) Try to harmonize the accounts.

We think if we use our imaginations and exegesis a bit, option 2 is quite feasible. You see, nowhere does the New Testament text say Jesus didn’t return, does it? So what we can speculate on is that Jesus went up into heaven that day, as Luke 24:51 says; however, after doing whatever business he had to do in heaven he decided to, once again, grace us with his presence. Jesus came back and hung around for a while; in fact, this kind of Jesus could come and go as he darn well pleased.

In fact, it becomes even more possible considering that many Christians believe that Jesus appeared whenever he wanted in the ‘Old Testament‘ as the ‘Angel of the Lord‘. Even Satan would appear as the ‘Angel of the Lord’

http://www.abideinchrist.com/messages/gen16v7.html

Example:

“And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. And he said, Hagar, Sarah’s maid, where you going? And what place do you intend to go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarah. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hands. The angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.” (Genesis 16:7-10)

So we can see from this that Jesus would beam in and out of Earth (like Star Trek) from time to time…


The point is that, instead of waiting for “The Second Coming of Jesus”, everyone should sit back and relax because, indeed, we may be waiting for “The 3rd Coming of Jesus.” We could very well be waiting for “The 125th coming of Jesus.”

If we are to believe the ‘Angel of the Lord’ theory of many Christian sects, we could be waiting for the 125th coming of Jesus, though it won’t sell many videos and T-shirts!

Look busy. Jesus is coming……..again.

May Allah Guide the Christians so that they do not burn in the hellfire.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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