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January 12, 2025 · 8:02 am

Ahl Al Khilaf-Engaging with Shi’a

“And each one hath a goal toward which he turns; so contend with one another in good works. Wheresoever you may be, Allah will bring you all together. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.” (Qur’an 2:148)

“Allah will judge between you on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which you used to differ.” (Qur’an 22:69)

“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).

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Insh’Allah the following section in the future will be found under the section above: Ahl Al-Qibla/Ahl Al-Khilaf.

This is a collection of articles in regard to the Shi’i and their various claims. Also are articles in relation to the Shi’i.

“Do not fight the kharijites after me, because one who seeks a right but does not find it, is not like the one who seeks a wrong and finds it.” –Ali Ibn Abu Talib

Source: (Nahju Al-Balagha Vol. 1, p. 67, speech no. 56.)

The words “He who seeks a right but does not find it” – as ‘Ali himself says – is an allusion to the Nahrawanees who are otherwise known as the Khawarij. The words “Unlike he who seeks misguidance intentionally” refer to Mu’awiya and his Syrian forces.

“Are the Khawarij mushrikun?” Ali said: “They flee from shirk.” Are they munafiqun? Ali said: “The hypocrites remember Allah only a little.” Then what are they? Ali said: “They are our brothers who transgressed against us (ikhwanuna baghaw ‘alayna), so we fought them for their transgression.” 

Source: (Al-Bidāya wa l-Nihāya 10:591)

The Ibadi are obviously not Khawarij to anyone who has common sense. However, for those who insist that we are you have to contend with those statements.

DO READ THIS FIRST. It is important to understand that we believe and accept that those who call themselves ‘Shi’i’ are Muslims.

We understand that ‘Shi’i’ is a term for a loose federation of various sects that all come under the understanding that Ali Ibn Abu Talib should have been the first Amir of the Muslims or was the most deserving of being that Amir.

We endorse the Amman accord: http://ammanmessage.com/the-three-points-of-the-amman-message-v-1/

Even before the Amman accord the Ibadi have regarded the Shi’a as Ahl Al Qiblah.

You have your polemical works directed towards each other -Ithna-Ashari versus Zaydi versus Ismaili.

Thus it is in that spirit that this section is created. We have just as much right to contend for the truth as anyone else does.

We have the right to allow the Muslim community to make an informed decision on various controversial issues.

You have your narrative and we have our narrative. Allah is with those who are the truthful!

“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/the-ibadi-stance-on-ali-bin-abi-talib/embed/#?secret=B9dGPrUv6v#?secret=tPhEcQjA0C

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/my-own-experience-with-shia/embed/#?secret=SOc0VDOhGb#?secret=1z1UXYVOCF

Inter Shi’i conflicts: After Ali Then Who?

How the Muslim Ummah approach the Shi’a in the wrong way.

Are we to follow Infallible Imams according to the Qur’an?

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/are-we-to-follow-infallible-imams-according-to-the-holy-quran/embed/#?secret=3jNsH3qZ4n#?secret=gvvmdkSyTb

https://primaquran.com/2024/05/08/imami-shia-attempts-to-respond-to-an-article-on-infallible-imams/embed/#?secret=EFFhHaBd5i#?secret=IoXkkIHGAV

Imami Shi’i 700 years of no Prophet and No Imam After Jesus (as)?

Imami Shi’a 700 years no Imam and no Prophet?

How did the Shi’i imams prevent the corruption of the Torah and the Gospel?

How did the Shi’a Imams prevent the corruption of the Torah and the Gospel?

A garden variety refutation of Shi’i Imami concept being from the Qur’an.

https://primaquran.com/2024/05/10/a-garden-variety-refutation-of-shiaism/embed/#?secret=uMZwEkimKs#?secret=VKPAZCokwo

Purification of the Ahl Bayt?

Purification of the Ahl Bayt

The Shi’i believe the Prophets are Masoom (Infallible) however..

“We Shi’i believe the Prophets are Masoom however Aisha…..”

Ali ibn Abi Talib his ijtihad and burning people alive.

Ali Ibn Abi Talib his ijtihad and burning people alive

Sunni and Shi’i narrators state that Ali bin Abi Talib drank alcohol and offered prayers while intoxicated?

Sunni and Shia narrators state that Ali bin Abi Talib drank alcohol and offer prayers while intoxicated?

Social experiment: Ali, Umar(ra) and Fatima (ra)

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/sociological-experiment-ali-umar-and-fatima/embed/#?secret=EFPnpg56HU#?secret=fpXHbDQw1t

For Those Shi’i who do slander Aisha (ra)

For those Shi’a who do slander Aisha (ra)

Ali is with the truth and the truth is with Ali.

https://primaquran.com/2023/04/28/examining-the-hadith-ali-is-with-the-truth-and-the-truth-is-with-ali/

I am at war with the one who is at war with Ali.

I am at war with the one who is at war with Ali ?

Iblis loves Imam Ali

Iblis loves Imam Ali and narrates from the Prophet (saw) concerning him.

The Hadith of the 12 leaders.

https://primaquran.com/2023/01/30/hadith-of-the-12-leaders/embed/#?secret=ejy0uaEQh4#?secret=IdvzagazN1

Hadith on Ghadir Khum

Hadith on Ghadir Khum ?

Ibadi hadith master, Shaykh Al Qanoubi on Hadith Al Thaqalyn

https://primaquran.com/2024/11/15/ibadi-hadith-master-shaykh-al-qanoubi-on-hadith-al-thaqalyan/embed/#?secret=iCsqB2Ov8S#?secret=uOTlVzbI2k

The Hadith: You are to me as Aaron is to Moses

https://primaquran.com/2023/04/15/response-to-shii-you-are-to-me-as-aaron-is-to-moses/embed/#?secret=fxlNwUAAe4#?secret=LBHv0Cs8jJ

An Awesome relationship The Shi’i and Abu Huarayrah

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/an-awesome-relationship-the-shia-and-abu-huarayrah/embed/#?secret=e6QPXrtBhB#?secret=r5qBL7IQDX

Historical Issues and Politics & Contemporary Issues.

The Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) never predicted that Hussain Ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib would die as a martyr.

https://primaquran.com/2023/07/27/nabi-muhammed-%ef%b7%ba-never-predicted-that-al-hussain-ibn-ali-ibn-abi-talib-will-die-as-a-martyr/embed/#?secret=4yOUDUeSIL#?secret=liza6wh4S2

What really happened at the battle of Siffin?

What really happened at the battle of Siffin? The Ibadi perspective.

What really happened at the battle of Nahrawan?

The Battle of Nahrawan. The Ibadi Perspective.

Questions every sincere Shi’i must ask concerning Siffin and Nahrawan.

https://primaquran.com/2023/02/13/questions-every-sincere-shii-must-ask-concerning-siffin-and-nahrawan/embed/#?secret=Q3QDWxjYD3#?secret=aaWZolR3Th

Ex 12er Shi’a sister has questions about Siffin. An Ex Shi’a sister who was in our WhatsApp group had some questions for one of our teachers.

https://primaquran.com/2024/02/17/ex-12er-shia-sister-has-questions-about-siffin/embed/#?secret=LM3LJXgP1B#?secret=vdUgF6P0gW

Response to Ali Hur Kampoonpuri’s attempt to refute Ibadi’s on Siffin.

https://primaquran.com/2023/05/11/response-to-ali-hur-kamoonpuri-attempt-to-refute-ibadis-on-siffin/embed/#?secret=ZmlxNR8vAM#?secret=aVU4DOw4ts

SUNNI & SHI’A NARRATIVES OF SIFFIN AND AL-NAHRAWAN

https://primaquran.com/2022/12/12/sunni-shia-narratives-of-siffin-and-al-nahrawan/

Sunni-Shi’a sectarian/political point scoring over Palestine.

Sunni-Shi’i sectarian/political point scoring over Palestine.

Pro Alid YouTube channel thows Ibn Abbas (ra) under the Bus!

Pro Alid YouTube channel throws Ibn Abbas under the bus!

Turkey is home to the 3rd largest Shi’i population in the Middle East.

Turkey is home to the 3rd largest Shi’a population in the Middle East.

The Iranian Shi’i Exodus to Atheism and the plans against Iran.

https://primaquran.com/2023/04/12/the-shii-exodus-to-atheism-and-the-plans-against-iran/embed/#?secret=mBTecpxgo2#?secret=LtjYd9bJBY

Isma’ili Shi’i

Isma’ili Nizari Shi’a and Circular Reasoning

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/17/ismaili-shia-and-circular-reasoning/embed/#?secret=Wtpq8duG8l#?secret=jCO1Xmq43f

There is no evidence that the Nizari Isma’ili Imam can properly recite the Qur’an.

https://primaquran.com/2024/09/19/there-is-no-evidence-that-the-nizari-ismaili-imam-can-properly-recite-the-quran/embed/#?secret=HWAjJ8gPYf#?secret=SSO9Xn7Nwf

Can a Child of Zani be an Imam? Isma’ili Shi’a & Ibadi Views.

Can a child of fornication/adultery be an Imam? Ismaili Shi’a & Ibadi views.

What is Tawhid? Debate between a Nizari Ismaili Shi’a and Athari-Salafi Sunni

What is Tawhid? Athari Creed vs Plotinus Philosophy

Imam Mahdi

3,000 Shi’a Mahdi’s in Iran!
Top Shi’a Imam admits waiting for ‘Hidden Imam’ has been a waste of time

Shi’a and the Origin of Black People: Blatant Racism

Some Shi’i views on the Origin of Black People: Blatant Racism

The Ark of Noah and the Descendants of Prophets.

But they are descendants of Prophets!

Divorce according to the Imamiyyah 12er Shi’i: A great perspective!

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/divorce-according-to-the-imamiyyah-12er-shia/embed/#?secret=tgDty3XeAe#?secret=MNdkaMt28W

Is the Qur’an that we are in Possession of Distorted? | Sayyid Ali Abu Al-Hasan-Great Insights!

https://primaquran.com/2024/07/06/is-the-quran-that-we-are-in-possession-of-distorted-sayyid-ali-abu-al-hasan/

Brother Ilyas shares his thoughts on a recent article concerning Shi’ism.

https://primaquran.com/2024/08/08/brother-ilyas-shares-his-thoughts-on-a-recent-article-concerning-shiism/

Neither Shi’a nor Sunni: An Interview with a Mozabite-Anthony T. Fiscella

https://primaquran.com/2024/02/05/neither-shia-nor-sunni-an-interview-with-a-mozabite-anthony-t-fiscella/

Adnan Rashid gaslighting the Shi’a over the Khawarij

https://primaquran.com/2024/03/11/adnan-rashid-gaslighting-the-shia-over-the-khawarij/

THE TIME ALI IBN ABU TALIB SLAUGHTERED 2/3 OF THE ALIENS IN SPACE

The Time Ali Ibn Abu Talib slaughters 2/3 of the Aliens in Space?

Insh’Allah more to come… 

Taking a look at Mutah Marriages. 

The Virtues of Abu Bakr Sadiq (ra)

Nasibi Tendencies With in Shi’ism: Why do Some Shi’i curse the Prophet (saw) grandson Hassan? His wife Aisha (ra)?

Musta’li Ismaili refutation of Nizari Ismaili claims

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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December 2, 2024 · 8:34 am

Turkey is home to the 3rd largest Shi’a population in the Middle East.

“My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.” (Qur’an 20:114)

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Most people, when they think of Turkey, do not think of it as a bastion of Shi’ism.

What makes obtaining numbers difficult in the case of Turkey is that they conduct census based only on religion, not on sects, races or ethnicity because according to the law, only religions are recognized, not sects. Additionally, another law states that everyone living in Turkey is considered a Turk.

Did you know that the Alevi Shi’a community is estimated to be between as low as 4 million and as high as 20 million of Turkey’s 80 million citizens?!

In fact, did you know that the bulwark of the Ottoman Military Machine, the famed Janissaries, were not Sunni Muslims?!

They cursed Muaviya, and they believed in the 14 infallibles, The Blessed Prophet (saw), Fatima (ra) and the 12 imams! They held that Ali was superior to the other companions. They were Shi’i; however not in the traditional sense. They were part of a Sufi order that was strongly influenced by Shi’i ideas and beliefs.

Bekta-Shism: A Sufi order that originated in Anatolia in the 13th century and named after their Saint: Haji Bektsah Veli.

Yeniçeriler gelsin!

Once that Shofar horn is blown, the only thing that awaits the opponent is swift and merciless death.

We don’t know if it was genius or mischievous of the Ottomans to send people who had heterodox views to be shock troops knowing they would take the brunt of the causalities. In a sense: canon fodder.

It must have been terrifying for Christian armies to see legions of soldiers basically dressed like Orthodox Christian Bishops coming to kill them! Just an unstoppable juggernaut chanting Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah has they charge forth.

Genius or diabolical would be a matter of perspective here.

Psychology is just as much a part of war as the weapons we wield!

The Daily Sabah says:

“Alevis, who make up the second-largest religious community in the country with approximately 20 million followers.”

Source: https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/news-analysis/govt-signals-action-for-turkeys-alevi-community-amid-obstacles


“The number of Alevis is a matter of contention. Estimates from different sources range considerably – from around 10 percent to as much as 40 percent of the total population – but recent figures suggest Alevis number in the region of 20 to 25 million.”

Source: https://minorityrights.org/communities/alevis/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20Alevis%20is,of%2020%20to%2025%20million.

Not surprising is that Sunni Muslims opposed to Shi’ism altogether would opt for polls or data that suggest that their population is not divided.

Recently, on X (Twitter), one Turkish Muslim we engaged with on the subject favoured KONDA Research, which suggests a very low 4% of the Turkish population to be Alevi Shi’a.

“Leaders of the Alevi Foundation estimate Alevi Muslims comprise 25 to 31 percent of the population. KONDA Research and Consultancy estimates the Alevi community at approximately 6 percent of the population, almost 5 million individuals. The Shia Jafari community estimates its members make up 4 percent of the population.”

Source: https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-report-on-international-religious-freedom/turkey/

Curious as to why that individual quoted KONDA research, we asked the individual what he thought about Tarhan Erdem’s view that Turkey was responsible for the genocide of Armenians, of which he offered no engagement on the question.

Turkey is allies with Shi’a Azerbaijan against Christian Armenia and Shi’a Iran.

Azerbaijan facts:

Religions:

Shi’i Muslim 97.3%, Christian 2.6%, other <0.1, unaffiliated <0.1 (2020 est.)

Source: (https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/azerbaijan/factsheets/)

Why many Turks unfortunately feel sour about Palestine and Palestinians.

Why do many Turks unfortunately feel sour about Palestine and Palestinians?

We have had many religiously observant Turkish Muslim friends express to us that they felt betrayed by Palestine.

One Turkish brother shared with us a picture from X (Twitter) that says: “I stand with Armenia forever. From Palestine.

To which he replied: “This is what makes me angry. My people and my nation support them. Going against Israel and having economic problems. And these shameless people support our enemies! Brother, there are Turks who support Israel, but those Turks are not Muslims. But these Palestinians claim to be Muslim and oppressed but still support Armenia and China. I have not seen a single Palestinian or Pan-Arab or supports other Muslims. Those oppressed in Myanmar, China or elsewhere.”

A Palestinian had said in response to such sentiment:

“I’m sorry for the Turks. We need to kiss their feet because we lived with Armenians in our neighborhoods when we were kids. And they were good people. I’m so sorry, Brother Turk, you have every right to feel sour and not care about us being subject to genocide. Empires rise and fall. The Turks betrayed the Ottoman Empire way before any Arab did.”

As you can see, our brothers from Turkey and Palestine equally have valid points. My point to the Turkish brother is that the Palestinians as a whole should not be made to suffer because of the statements or actions of Mahmoud Abbas or those in the past.

This unfortunately is the sad state of our Muslim Ummah.

If we had a word of caution for my brothers in Turkey it would be this.

“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

This seemingly innocuous Bekta-Shism state being carved out of Albania (with EU approval) might not be as innocent as one thinks.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/11/05/albania-makes-surprise-announcement-of-future-bektashi-state-in-tirana_6731726_4.html

You may be interested in reading the following:

An exploration of the many Mahdi claimants (quite a number of them from Turkey).

Which “Mahdi” would you choose?
Türk dilinde Ibadi mezhebi
Ibadiyye Mezhebi
The Ottoman Empire was betrayed by the so called descendants of Prophet Muhammed (saw).

May Allah (swt) free Palestine and put Jerusalem firmly in the hands of the Muslims.

May Allah (swt) aid the Turks in their conflict with Armenia.

May Allah (swt) bring justice to the Uyghurs Muslims in China.

May Allah (swt) bring justice to the Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

May Allah (swt) bring peace, justice and stability to Syria.

May Allah (swt) aid the people of Yemen.

May Allah (swt) be with the people of Sudan.

May Allah (swt) be with our brothers in the Horn of Africa, Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea.

May Allah (swt) help the ummah to put love of Islam and Muslims above the love for nations, or tribal affiliations.

May Allah (swt) aid the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

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March 11, 2024 · 10:26 am

I am at war with the one who is at war with Ali ?

“Moreover, if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two. But if one of them oppresses the other, then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the command of Allah. And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.” (Qur’an 49:9)

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So today we are going to be looking at the following hadith:

Narrated by Zaid bin Arqam:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said to ‘Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain (ra): “I am at war with whoever makes war with you, and peace for whoever makes peace with you.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3870)

You can see from the above source that it has a grading of Da’if (meaning weak/fabricated).

Now, even without going into the chains of narrators, we know that this hadith has a major weakness.

However, let us say, for the sake of argument, that this hadith had a grading of Sahih (meaning sound). It would still have a defect. Not even a hidden one. Not even something that would require a hadith specialist.

It would require familiarity with the text of the Qur’an.

CONTROL GROUP A: BEING OPPRESSED

CONTROL GROUP B: DOING THE OPPRESSING.

So, in the above scenario. Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain (ra) could be in control group B. They could be doing the oppressing. However, since our interlocutors (Shi’i, Sunni, ect) will get emotionally charged over such a suggestion, we will not entertain it at this point.

Thus, Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain (ra) could be in control group A. That means they are being oppressed. They are locked in conflict with control group B. However, notice Allah (swt) says:

“If two factions among the believers should fight.”

And since the hadith states that being in conflict or at war with Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain (ra) is ipso facto being at war with the Blessed Messenger (saw) and since it is not conceivable for one to be labeled as a believer and to be at war with or conflict with the Blessed Prophet (saw) himself that hadith is baseless. It is null and void.

Next: Aisha (ra) has Wilāyat al-Ḥaqīqah (real guardianship of Allah), whereas he (Ali) only has the Wilāyatal-Dhahir (apparent guardianship).

“The Prophet has a stronger affinity to the believers than they do themselves. And his wives are their mothers.” (Qur’an 33:6)

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “Allah said, ‘I will declare war against him who shows hostility to a pious worshipper of Mine. And the most beloved things with which My slave comes nearer to Me, is what I have enjoined upon him; and My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him, so I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks; and if he asks Me, I will give him, and if he asks My protection (Refuge), I will protect him; (i.e. give him My Refuge) and I do not hesitate to do anything as I hesitate to take the soul of the believer, for he hates death, and I hate to disappoint him.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/81/91)

Narrated Abu Maryam `Abdullah bin Ziyad Al-Aasadi:

“When Talha, AzZubair and `Aisha moved to Basra, `Ali sent `Ammar bin Yasir and Hasan bin `Ali who came to us at Kufa and ascended the pulpit. Al-Hasan bin `Ali was at the top of the pulpit and `Ammar was below Al-Hasan. We all gathered before him. I heard `Ammar saying, “`Aisha has moved to Al-Busra. By Allah! She is the wife of your Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter. But Allah has put you to test whether you obey Him (Allah) or her (`Aisha).”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7100)


So using this standard of logic. It is Ali ibn Abi Talib who risks war with Allah (swt) and not Aisha (ra) who risks war with the Messenger of Allah! 

Ali’s own brother Aqil fought on the side of Muawiya.

Aqil ibn Abi Talib (cousin of the Blessed Prophet) and elder brother of Ali. So does this now mean a cousin of the Blessed Prophet (saw) like Ali, and brother of Ali was at war with the Blessed Prophet (saw)?

Food for thought.

As mentioned the hadith (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3870) is classified as Da’if weak.

The hadith comes to us by four ways: Abu Hurairah, Zaid Ibn Arqam, Subayh, Umm Salamah:

Abu Hurairah

This comes by way of Talid ibn Sulaiman

Talid Ibn Sulaiman is dai’f jiddan (very weak)Ahmad, Yahya al Saji deemed him a liar.

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Zaid Ibn Arqam -1) Muslim ibn Subayh—Abu Al Jahhaf-2; father of 3 Ali Ibn Hashim—Ali Ibn Hashim.

4) Al Hassan ibn Al Hussain Al Ashqar

This comes by way of al Hassan ibn al hussain al Ashqar via Abu al Jahhaf.

It is said about Hassan ibn Al Hussain al Ashqar is da’if. Abu Hatim and Ibn Hibban have mentioned this.

Abu al Jahhaf inconsistently narrates the hadith.

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Subayh

Subayh is from his grandfather, from Ibrahim Abdul Rahman Ibn Subayh, from Abu Mada, from Ubaidah Ibn Musa, from Hussain Ibn Al Hassan Al Ashqar.

Hussain ibn al -Hassan al -Ashqar is da’if (weak)

Abu Mada is weak.

Ibrahim is majhul (unknown)

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Umm Salamah

From a person who informed him

From Muhammed ibn Suqah

From Ismail ibn Abi Khalid

From Abu Hafs al A’sha

Abu Hafs al ‘Asha (is munkar al hadith) — narrates unacceptable hadith)

The teacher of Muhammed ibn Suqah is majhul (unknown).

So, in the end, this hadith is discarded.

The Shi’i may not like it. The Zaydi may not like it. The Imami may not like it. But the evidence has been laid out and the refutation (if any awaits).

May Allah guide the Ummah.

May Allah forgive the Ummah.

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May 21, 2022 · 11:17 am

Do Salafiyya truly believe that Allah chuckles and laughs at the despair of the Palestinians?

Say, “My Lord has only forbidden immoralities – what is apparent of them and what is concealed – and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know.” (Qur’an 7:33) 

ALLAH LAUGHS AT THE DESPAIR OF HIS SLAVES?

Waki’ bin Hudus narrated that his paternal uncle Abu Razin said:

“The Messenger of Allah said: ‘Allah laughs at the despair of His slaves although He soon changes it.’ I said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, does the Lord laugh?’ He said: ‘Yes.’ I said: ‘We shall never be deprived of good by a Lord Who laughs.'”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:181)

“The Messenger of Allah said: Allah chuckles at the despair of His slaves although He soon changes it.’
I said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, does the Lord chuckle?’ ‘He said: ‘Yes.’ I said: ‘We shall never be deprived of good by a Lord Who chuckles.”

Now if we take this hadith alone it is challenging to suggest that chuckling/laughing can be interpreted as Mercy. Because, even the companion ask, ‘Does Allah chuckle?’ and it would be difficult to imagine the companion asking, ‘Does the Lord show Mercy’. I mean we recite the Qur’an as bismillah ir rahman ir raheem. Most Merciful and Most Compassionate.

However, this is a lone narrator report. We in Ahl Haqq Wal Istiqamah (The Ibadi School) we do not make lone narrator reports as a basis for our faith. What we do is look at other ahadith where these idioms are used to show if there is other meanings.

If we are to take this lone narrator report at the apparent meaning as the Salafi -Athari suggest than it means that Allah (swt) is laughing, chuckling etc at the despair and pain that humanity undergoes.

It takes a depraved human being and a twisted imagination to suggest that Allah (swt) would have a hearty chuckle at the despair and misery of humanity.

Children being sexually abused by their parents.

People starting to death in this world.

You going to say that Allah (swt) is laughing/chuckling at this?!

Furthermore does this laughing and chuckling produce a sound such that we can say that it is uncreated? Such that one can imagine an eternal chuckling and laughing at the despair, torture and pain of a creation that has yet to be created?

We wonder why people are Atheist?

Either the people who invent such falsehoods have a very low estimation of the Divine, or the Creator they worship is more horribly morbid than the darkest corner of human imagination could fathom.

However, because this hadith is graded as ‘Hasan’ those who take the lone narrator reports will insist,

We believe that Allah chuckles/laughs …with the disclaimer (in a way that befits his majesty!

“It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:  Allah chuckles at the two men both of whom will enter Paradise (though) one of them kills the other. They said: Messenger of Allah, how is it? He said: One of them fights in the way of Allah, the Almighty, and Exalted. and dies a martyr. Then Allah turns in mercy to the murderer who embraces Islam, fights in the way of Allah, the Almighty, and Exalted, and dies a martyr.”  (‘Sahih’ Muslim Kitab Al-Imara hadith number 4658)

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1890a)

If we understand the mention about Allah (swt) chuckling as his act of Mercy than this is not a problem. It is an idiom or an expression.

However, if as some in the Muslim community do (ever ready to kick every one else out of Islam), insist that we have to take this at the apparent meaning it is very dark.

These kinds of hadiths are reminiscent of the stuff attributed to Allah (swt) in the Bible.

“And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.” (Exodus 32:14)

“The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.” (Genesis 6:6)

So we would take the two hadith and combine them and our understanding would be the laughing/chuckling as an idiom or expression of Allah’s mercy that is soon to follow any act of despair, as long as the people put their tawakkul (trust) in Allah (swt).

“Say, “O My servants who have transgressed against themselves, do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.” (Qur’an 39:53)

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

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