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The Ibadi view: Being from the Quraysh is not necessary for leadership.

“Say: ‘O Allah, Lord of all dominion! You give dominion to whom You will, and take away dominion from whom You will, and You exalt whom You will, and abase whom You will. In Your Hand is all good. Surely You are All-Powerful.” (Qur’an 3:26)

“Your only guardians are Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers—who establish prayer and pay alms-tax with humility. Whoever allies themselves with Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers, then it is certainly Allah’s party that will prevail.” (Qur’an 5:55-56)

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First and foremost, it must be said from the beginning. We don’t have any objection to following an Imam who is from the Quraysh or from the lineage of the Prophet (saw).

Our predecessors did exactly that. We simply state, based upon evidence, that neither is a must.

Simply bring someone whom the Ummah will follow from the Quraysh who is righteous and just and meets the other criteria and we will follow. Simple.

If one cannot, then the problem lies with the inability to find such one. Not with our refusal to follow such a one.

This has to be one of the few glaring differences between the Ibadi school and the Zaydi school. That is the matter of leadership among Muslims. For that matter, this particular issue is a distinct feature of the Ibadi school compared to all other schools in Islam.

A foundational and defining principle of the Ibadi school of Islamic thought, and it is supported with strong, clear Qur’anic evidence.

The first point that has to be conceded here is that there is no explicit text anywhere in the Qur’an that argues that a particular tribe of people, even the Quraysh, is more fit for leadership in lieu of others.

In fact, Allah (swt) has told us in a very clear verse:

“O humankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes so that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (Qur’an 49:13)

The most noble in the sight of Allah is the most righteous. Now, when Allah (swt) revealed this verse, he was quite aware of the existence of both the Quraysh and Banu Hashim. Yet, neither is singled out.

We do, however, also have an explicit text where Allah (swt) gives us a clear example of where preference can be given to a non-Arab, non-Quraysh, and non-Hashmi in lieu of an Arab, a Quraysh, or a Hashmi.

Pay close attention to the status of the one in this verse before society and before Allah.

“And do not marry mushrik women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a mushrik, even though she might please you. And do not marry mushrik men until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a mushrik, even though he might please you. Those invite to the Fire, but Allāh invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses  to the people that perhaps they may remember.” (Qur’an 2:221)

In the scenario above, the slave has a low status before the people. 

The free person has a high status before people.

In both situations, when a believer is to access who to give their son or daughter to for the continuation of their lineage, the believer is always superior to the unbeliever in every scenario.

Let’s break down and expand upon the points, placing them within the broader context of Islamic theological schools.

Summary of The Core Argument:
We argue that leadership (Imamah) in the Muslim community is based solely on piety (taqwa) and religious merit, not on lineage, tribe, or social status. The Qur’anic verses that are cited (49:13 and 2:221) establish a principle where spiritual merit absolutely supersedes worldly status.

This is a central and distinguishing feature of Ibadi Islam.

Expanding on the Ibadi Position
The Ibadi school takes this Qur’anic principle to its logical conclusion regarding political leadership.

For Ibadis:

The Imam must be the most qualified Muslim: The leader of the Muslim community must be chosen based on his knowledge (ilm), piety (taqwa), and justice (adl). He must be capable of defending the community and governing according to Islamic law.
Non-Qurayshi Imamate is Permissible: There is no requirement for the Imam to be from the Quraysh tribe or from the lineage of the Blessed Prophet (saw) – (Banu Hashim).

A pious, knowledgeable, and capable Muslim from any ethnic or tribal background is eligible for the position.


A Rejection of Tribal Aristocracy:

This stance was historically a conscious rejection of the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates, which Ibadis viewed as having corrupted the office of the caliphate by turning it into a hereditary kingship (mulk) based on tribal and dynastic privilege rather than merit.


Contrasting with the Zaydi (and Other) Islamic Schools

Zaydi Position: The Zaydis, like other Shi’a schools (though to a less absolute degree than the Twelvers or Ismailis), hold that the Imam must be a descendant of the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) through his grandsons Hasan and Husayn (from the Banu Hashim). For them, this lineage (nasab) is a necessary condition, though not sufficient on its own. The Imam must also be knowledgeable, pious, and must rise up to claim the position against an unjust ruler.


Sunni Position: The majority Sunni position, historically, has been that the Imam should be from the Quraysh. This is based on various hadiths (e.g., “The Imams are from Quraysh”) that are accepted in Sunni collections. While not a pillar of faith (aqidah) in the same way, it became a near-universal political doctrine in classical Sunni thought. Our argument directly challenges this Sunni consensus by prioritizing the explicit Qur’anic verse (49:13) over these hadiths.


The Strength of The Theological Example (Qur’an 2:221)
The use of Surah Al-Baqarah, verse 221 is particularly powerful. It’s not just a general statement of virtue; it’s a practical legal ruling that establishes a hierarchy where faith completely inverts social status.

The argument is logical and theologically robust.

The Scenario: A free, noble, wealthy, and high-status idolater is proposing marriage.
The Counterpart: A believing slave, who possesses the lowest possible social status.
The Divine Judgment: The believing slave is objectively better (khayr) and is the only permissible choice.


This provides a direct analogy for leadership:

A Qurayshi or Hashimi who is less pious or unjust is like the high-status idolater.
A non-Qurayshi who is supremely pious and capable is like the believing slave.
Following the Qur’anic logic, the latter is the better choice for the “marriage” between the community and its leader.


Conclusion
We have accurately pinpointed a core theological and political difference. The Ibadi school’s stance on the Imamate is one of its most distinctive features, setting it apart from Sunni, Zaydi, and other Shi’a schools. This position is not an innovation but is built upon a strict, literal, and principled application of Qur’anic values—specifically, the radical redefinition of nobility and merit found in verses 49:13 and 2:221.

Our analysis demonstrates that for Ibadis, the question of leadership is ultimately a matter of applying the same divine criteria used in all other aspects of faith, refusing to make an exception for political power based on tribal or dynastic claims.

“Do We consider the righteously striving believers equal to the evildoers in the land? “Are the pious ones equal to those who openly commit sin?” (Qur’an 38:28)

In The Farewell Sermon, the Blessed Messenger (saw), “O people, your Lord is One and your Father is one. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab; and a non-Arab has no superiority over an Arab. “A white person has no superiority over a black person, and a black person has no superiority over a white person except by piety and good action.”

Source: (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Beirut: Muʾassasah ar-Risalah, 2001), hadith no. 23489, 38: 474)

Some verses that are used by the misguided may be used to manipulate concepts or ideas of tribal and/or racial superiority.

“And We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with preference.” (Qur’an 17:70)

So the question must be asked: In what way has Allah (swt) given preference to man over creation?

Usain Bolt cannot match the speed of a cheetah. In 5.95 seconds they reach up to speeds of 75 miles per hour /120km per hour.

A fully-grown silverback gorilla can lift 4,000 lb (1,810kg) on a bench press. A juiced-up human around (401kg).

Bats have superior navigation at night.

Whales can hold their breath underwater for nearly an hour.

There are just too many situations and scenarios when animals and insects showcase abilities that are far superior to anything a human being possesses. 

So in what way are humans preferred? 

We have been given a soul, and revelation, for example.

“For it is He Who has appointed you a vicegerent over the earth, and has exalted some of you over others in rank, that He may try you in what He has bestowed upon you. Indeed, your Lord is swift in retribution, and He is certainly All Forgiving, All-Compassionate.” (Qur’an 6:165) 

Now, if this is to be twisted to mean that Allah (swt) has preferred some phenotypes over phenotypes or that Allah (swt) has preferred some tribes over others, then this should be stated clearly so that people are aware that Islam does indeed teach tribalism. 

Or that Islam is a project of pan-Arabism. 

If Allah (swt) had given Elon Musk billions of dollars would he have been exalted in rank? Yes.  But who is really favoured by Allah (swt)?  The one who has been given money and no Islam or the poorest human on earth that has Islam? If we have Allah (swt) we have everything, and we do not have Allah (swt) we have nothing. 

If non-Muslims have military prowess over the Muslim ummah, does that truly mean they are favoured before Allah (swt)? 

Whereas the Jews endeavor to rule over the Earth via their Messiah. Islam desires to rule over the earth via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty.  The Ibadi say: La! No!  Rule by the most righteous. 

“And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah has chosen you and made you pure, and has preferred you above the women of creation. (Qur’an 3:42) 

This honour has not been given to any of the women from the Quraysh. None of those women are mentioned by name in the Qur’an. 

In fact, no other woman is mentioned by name except her. 

So why did Allah (swt) choose Mary (as)? 

She was righteous. She was truthful. She guarded her chastity. She testified to the words of her Lord and his scripture. She was devout. Thus, she became a vessel for the word of Allah (swt). 

“His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food. See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded!” (Qur’an 5:75)

“There was Mary, the daughter of ’Imrân, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her through Our angel ˹Gabriel˺. “She testified to the words of her Lord and His Scriptures, and was one of the devout. (Qur’an 66:12)

Narrated by AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (saw) said: Allah, Most High, has removed from you the pride of the pre-Islamic period and its boasting in ancestors. One is only a pious believer or a miserable sinner. You are sons of Adam, and Adam came from dust. Let the people cease to boast about their ancestors. They are merely fuel in Jahannam; or they will certainly be of less account to Allah than the beetle which rolls dung with its nose.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/abudawud:5116)

Now we are moving from the specific issue of political leadership (Imamah) to the broader, foundational Islamic principle that utterly rejects all forms of racial, tribal, and material superiority.

Here we are systematically dismantling any potential theological basis for bigotry and reaffirming the core Ibadi (and indeed, universal Islamic) ethic that value is based solely on taqwa (piety, consciousness of Allah).

Let’s synthesize and expand upon the points we’ve made.

The Core Principle: Deconstructing False Superiority


We’ve correctly established that any notion of inherent superiority based on lineage, race, or tribe is a pre-Islamic (Jahili) concept that Islam came to abolish. The Prophet’s (saw) Farewell Sermon is the constitutional charter that nullifies all such claims.

The key argument: If tribal/racial superiority were real, then the most honoured woman in all of creation would be Maryam (as), a woman from Bani Israel, and not from the Quraysh or Banu Hashim. Her elevation was due exclusively to her spiritual and moral qualities: her truthfulness, her chastity, her devotion.

Interpreting “Preference” and “Exaltation in Rank” (Tafdeel)
We have addressed the verses that are often misused.

Preference over Creation (17:70):

The rhetorical questions about the cheetah, gorilla, and whale are a perfect reductio ad absurdum. It demonstrates that the “preference” (tafdeel) mentioned in the Qur’an cannot be about physical or material superiority. The Qur’an has clarified that this preference refers to:
Intellect and Reason (Aql)
The Soul and the capacity for spiritual connection with Allah.
Being addressed by Revelation and given divine guidance.
In essence, humans are “preferred” with the responsibility of stewardship (khilafah), not with a license for arrogance.


Exaltation in Rank (6:165):

The example of Elon Musk is precisely the correct interpretation. This verse speaks of the divine distribution of tests (ibtila’), not divine endorsement.
Wealth, power, and status are tests: Will the recipient become arrogant and unjust, or grateful and charitable?
Poverty and weakness are also tests: Will the individual become despairing and bitter, or patient and trusting in Allah?
The “exaltation in rank” is a worldly, temporal circumstance designed to try humanity. The one who is truly “exalted” in the sight of Allah is the one who passes their test, regardless of what that test is.

As previously demonstrated, the poorest believer with iman is infinitely more “favoured” than the richest disbeliever.


The Ibadi Stance as the Logical Conclusion
The final point brings it all back to the beginning:

“Where as the Jews endeavor to rule over the Earth via their Messiah. Islam desires to rule over the earth via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty. The Ibadi say: La! No! Rule by the most righteous.“

This is the ultimate application of the theology we’ve outlined. If all forms of inherent superiority are null and void, and if the only measure of excellence is taqwa, then the only legitimate political system is one of meritocracy and piety.

The claim that Islam “desires to rule… via the continuous rule of an Arab dynasty” is a description of the historical caliphates (Umayyad, Abbasid) and the theological positions of some schools. It is not a description of the religion’s core principles as derived from the Qur’an and the Farewell Sermon.


The Ibadi position is a call to return to those core principles. It argues that the early deviation into dynastic, tribal rule was a betrayal of the Islamic message, a reversion to the pre-Islamic (Jahili) concept of aristocracy by birth.


Conclusion: A Theology of Radical Equality
We have constructed a watertight argument from the Qur’an and Sunnah:

The Principle is Established: True nobility is only through piety (49:13, Farewell Sermon).
False Superiority is Dismantled: Worldly status (like being free vs. slave) is inverted by faith (2:221). Biological or tribal advantage is irrelevant to spiritual rank.
Misused Verses are Clarified: “Preference” is about spiritual capacity and responsibility, not inherent superiority. “Exaltation in rank” is a distribution of tests, not a sign of Allah’s favour.
The Model is Provided: Maryam (as), a non-Qurayshi woman, is the exemplar of divinely bestowed honour due solely to righteousness.
The Political Reality is Demanded: Therefore, the only legitimate leadership is one based on merit and piety, not lineage or tribe.


This is not just an Ibadi position; it is the pure, unadulterated message of Islam that all schools theoretically affirm but which the Ibadi school has made the absolute cornerstone of its political theology.

We have masterfully demonstrated by Allah’s grace, how this political stance is not a sectarian oddity but is, in fact, the direct and logical outcome of the Qur’an’s most fundamental ethical teachings.

“That is Allah—your True Lord. So what is beyond the truth except falsehood? How can you then be turned away?” (Qur’an 10:32)

“The day when neither wealth nor sons will be of any benefit. Only those who will come before Allah with a pure heart.(Qur’an 26:88-89)

The first condition of accepting an Imam is shura.

“And those who have responded to their lord and established prayer and whose affair is consultation among themselves, and from what We have provided them, they spend.” (Qur’an 42:38) 

O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you(minkum(from you/of you). Should you disagree with anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution. (Qur’an 4:59)

1. Obey Allah (by this is meant the Qur’an)

2. Obey the Messenger (by this is meant his Sunnah)

3 Obey the “uli l-amri” -those in authority-minkum-from you/of you-meaning that the Muslims obey the Muslim that leads you. It does not mean only Quraysh Muslims obey only a Quraysh leader.

“uli l-amri” does not = Quraysh

“uli l-amri” does not = Ahl Bayt. 

Now that is said. It could mean Quraysh or Ahl Bayt if they were appointed in authority over you. However, even more than one thing that the above verse absolutely does is that it shreds, decimates and grinds to powder that the “uli l-amri” are infallible in their leadership. If they were infallible in leadership, then there would be no scope to differ with them.   So who or what is the authority over the “uli-l-amri”?  Allah and his Messenger.  We will come back to this point insh’Allah.

A crucial addition to the discussion. We are moving from the theological principle (merit over lineage) to the practical mechanisms and qualifications for leadership, all while engaging directly with the counter-evidence that is often presented. This is the mark of a thorough and honest seeker of knowledge.

Our analysis is precise and devastating to the claims of hereditary, tribal entitlement to rule. Let’s break down and reinforce the arguments.

1. The Ultimate Measure: The “Pure Heart” on the Day of Judgment

We begin with the most important point: the ultimate criterion. Verses 26:88-89 establish that on the only day that truly matters, all worldly measures of status—wealth, sons (lineage), tribe—are utterly worthless. The only thing that counts is a “pure heart” (qalbun salim). This frames the entire discussion. Any political system that prioritizes lineage over piety is building for a world that will be irrelevant on the Day of Judgment.

2. The Mechanism: Shura is a Defining Characteristic of Believers

The citation of Qur’an 42:38 is appropriate. It lists “whose affair is consultation (shura) among themselves” as a fundamental quality of those who have truly responded to Allah. This means:

  • Consultation is obligatory, not optional.
  • It is a defining feature of the community, not just its leadership.
  • This inherently rejects autocratic, hereditary rule. A system based solely on birthright has no need for genuine shura.

3. The Command to Obey and Its Critical Limits (Qur’an 4:59)

Our exegesis of this pivotal verse is excellent and strikes at the heart of the matter.

  • “Those in authority among you” (uli l-amri minkum): Minkum means “from you” or “of you.” It signifies that the rulers must be from the body of the believers. It does not say “from the Quraysh among you” or “from a specific lineage among you.” This is a critical point. The condition is belief and membership in the community, not tribe.
  • The Scope for Disagreement: This is a powerful insight. The verse explicitly anticipates and provides a procedure for disagreeing with “those in authority.” This single clause demolishes the concept of an infallible political leader.
    • If a leader were appointed by divine decree and infallible, there would be no possibility of a legitimate “disagreement” with them. The instruction would simply be “obey unconditionally.”
    • The fact that Allah provides a mechanism for when the community disagrees with its ruler proves that the ruler’s decisions are fallible and subject to review.
    • The Ultimate Authority: The final arbiter in any dispute is “Allah and His Messenger”—i.e., the Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah. The ruler is not the ultimate authority; he is subject to the divine law. This establishes the principle that the ruler can be corrected, resisted, or even removed if he contravenes divine law.

Following the Qur’an and Sunnah. Whose interpretation though?

Hadith provides a snapshot. They put a few strokes on the canvas, but they are not the whole picture. All the Islamic schools of jurisprudence advocate to follow the Qur’an and Sunnah.

However, how do we understand the evidences is something entirely different altogether.

Examples:

Abu Huraira reported that Allah’s Messenger (saw) as saying:

This tribe of the Quraysh would kill (people) of my Ummah. They (the Companions) said: What do you command us to do (in such a situation)? Thereupon he said: Would that the people remain aside from them (and not besmear their hands with the blood of the Muslim).

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Shu’ba with the same chain of transmitters.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2917)

Narrated by Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “This branch of the Quraysh will ruin the people.” The companions of the Prophet (saw) asked, “What do you order us to do (then)?” He said, “I would suggest that the people keep away from them.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3604

Because the above hadith is not clear which branch of the Quraysh will ruin people, then perhaps it would be best to avoid them altogether.

But is that the correct understanding of the hadith? You see the point? You have the hadith than you have the understanding of the hadith.

Narrated by Abu Huraira:

“I heard the truthful and trusted by Allah (i.e., the Prophet (saw) saying, “The destruction of my followers will be through the hands of young men from Quraysh.” 

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7058)

Narrated by Abu Hurairah:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Leadership is among the Quraysh, and reasoning and judgment are among the Ansar, and the Adhan is among the Ethiopians, and trust is among the Al-Azd,” meaning Yemen.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3936)

So the inference from the above hadith is that it gives the Quraysh preference to the Imamate, preference to judgement towards the Ansar and preference to the call to prayer to the Ethiopians.

It does not prove that the appointment of anyone other than the Quraysh to the office of the Imamate would be illegitimate anymore than it would prove that judgement by anyone other than the ansar would be illegitimate or the call to prayer by anyone other than the Ethiopians would be illegitimate. 

Did you know the Ibadi school has hadith about following the Quraysh!? 

First! We couldn’t be more thankful. The reason why we are thankful is that it is well known that lineage from or being of the Quraysh is not a foremost consideration for Imamate in our school.  So imagine if we did not have such hadith in our corpus, others would try to accuse us of  ignorance.  Not knowing the evidence.

The Prophecy about the two men (two fingers) of the Quraysh is followed by the rise of the human mulk (dominion).

The following is from Kitab Al Jihad chapter 13 hadith #4045 and 4046.

Source: (Musnad Imam Ar-Rabi’a bin Habib Al-Farahidi al-Umani.(From Tartib of Al-Warjilani)

45 From Abu Ubayda, Jabir b Zaid narrated Anas b Malik from The Prophet (saw). “This thing will not leave the leadership of the Quraysh so long as there are two men among them. And he put up two fingers. But woe to him! Who brings about kingship!”

46 Al Rabi says: It reached me from Abi Masoud that he said. The Prophet (saw) said to the Quraysh: “This issue will remain among you as long as you are its guardians, and you do not innovate/transgress, and if you do such a thing, then Allah will give the worst of his creatures’ authority over you, and they will beat you as this Rod beats you.” (And he had a rod in his hand)

4. Engaging with the “Qurayshi Hadith” – A Model of Contextual Understanding

This is where our approach is truly scholastic. We don’t ignore inconvenient evidence; we engage with it, contextualize it, and understand it within a broader framework.

  • The “Destruction” Hadiths: We cited hadiths that are warnings about specific Qurayshi rulers who will bring ruin. This immediately shows that the Blessed Prophet (saw) himself did not view Qurayshi leadership as an unalloyed good. It was a reality that contained both potential and grave danger.
  • The “Leadership is among the Quraysh” Hadith: Our understanding is precisely what is required. This hadith is a description of a historical and political reality, not a prescription for all time.
    • The Quraysh held immense social capital and influence in 7th-century Arabia. For the state to be stable, it was pragmatic for its leader to come from them. This is a political observation, not a theological commandment.
    • Our analogy to the other groups mentioned (Ansar for judgment, Ethiopians for Adhan) is on point. It shows the hadith is listing strengths or common roles, not issuing exclusive, divinely-ordained rights. No one argues that only an Ansari can be a judge, so why argue that only a Qurayshi can be an Imam?

  • The Ibadi Hadith from Musnad al-Rabi’: This is a fascinating and crucial text from the Ibadi tradition. It shows two things:
    1. Acknowledgment of the Status Quo: “This thing will not leave the leadership of the Quraysh so long as there are two men among them.” This acknowledges the initial historical reality.
    2. A Severe Warning and a Limit: The prophecy contains its own expiration date. It is conditional (“so long as there are two men”) and ends with a condemnation of the transformation into “kingship” (mulk). This aligns perfectly with the Ibadi historical view: the caliphs were legitimate, but the transition to Umayyad hereditary mulk was the great corruption that violated the terms of this prophecy.

Prima Qur’an comments: The two men could very well have been a foreshadowing of the two shaykhun -Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra)

Narrated Safinah:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The Caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; then Allah will give the Kingdom of His Kingdom TO ANYONE HE WILLS.

Sa’id told that Safinah said to him: Calculate Abu Bakr’s caliphate as two years, ‘Umar’s as ten, ‘Uthman’s as twelve and ‘Ali so and so. Sa’id said: I said to Safinah: They conceive that ‘Ali was not a caliph. He replied: The buttocks of Marwan told a lie.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4646)

The Blessed Prophet (saw) had his call for 23 years.

Abu Bakr (ra) was Amir Al Mumineen for 2 years +.

Umar ibn Al Khattab (ra) was Amir Al Mumineed for 10+ years.

Give or take that is thirty years. Stability, Strength and Cohesiveness. Afterwards it unraveled with Uthman Ibn Affan.

Also, it is well known that the companions and successors elected ʿAbd Allāh ibn Wahb al-Rāsibī (ra) after the events of Siffin. It is well known that he is not from the tribe of the Quraysh.

https://bintibadh.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-fifth-caliph-abdullah-ibn-wahb-al.html

Not only this but when Ibn Abbas (ra) was sent to debate the companions and successors of Ahl al-Nahrawan he did not bring up the fact that their imam was not from the Quraysh. Very strange.

You can read about his debate here:

Conclusion: A Coherent and Principled Political Theology

We have constructed a fully coherent view:

  1. The Goal: A society led by the most righteous, whose hearts are pure, to succeed on the Day of Judgment.
  2. The Process: Leadership is chosen through consultation (shura) by the community of believers.
  3. The Qualification: The leader must be from the community (minkum) and is qualified by knowledge, piety, and capability—not by lineage.
  4. The Limits of Power: The leader is fallible and is obeyed only insofar as he obeys Allah and His Messenger. The community has the right and duty to refer his decisions back to the primary sources (Qur’an and Sunnah).
  5. The Historical Evidence: The “Qurayshi hadiths” are understood as descriptions of an early historical context that was conditional and ultimately corrupted, leading to the very “kingship” the Prophet (saw) warned against.

The Qurayshi society was one dominated by internecine tribal warfrare. To lose The Blessed Prophet (saw) was harsh enough.

This is why the Ibadi school says: “Rule by the most righteous.” It is not a slogan; it is the logical, theological, and practical conclusion of a deep engagement with the primary sources of Islam, exactly as we have demonstrated.

Narrated by Ibn `Umar:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “This matter (caliphate) will remain with the Quraysh even if only two of them still exist.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7140)

Narrated by Ibn Mas’ud:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Take as examples the two after me from my companions, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar. And act upon the guidance of ‘Ammar, and hold fast to the advice of Ibn Mas’ud.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3805)

As long as I obey Allah and His messenger, you should obey me. If I do not obey Allah and His messenger, then obedience to me is not an obligation upon you. Now, stand for the prayer. May Allah have mercy upon you.” -Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (ra)

Source: (al-Sīrah al-Nabawīyah 2/661)

The choice of leadership for Umar Ibn Al Khatab (ra) is for a non-Quraysh!

(on multiple occasions) …

This is the hadith that is most likely more accessible to most readers.

Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) choice for

Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah (ra) and Mu’adh ibn Jabal (ra)—neither of whom was from the Quraysh tribe.

It was narrated from Shuraih bin ‘Ubaid and Rashid bin Saʼd and others that when ‘Umar bin al-Khattab reached Sargh, he was told that there was a widespread plague in Syria. He said:

I have heard that there is a severe plague in Syria. I said: If my time comes, and Abu ‘Ubaidah bin al-Jarrah is still alive, I appoint him as my successor, And if Allah asks me why I appointed him as my successor to lead the ummah of Muhammed (saw), I will say: I heard Your Messenger (saw) say: `Every Prophet has a close confidant and my close confidant is Abu ‘Ubaidah bin al-Jarrah.` The people objected to that, and said: What about the prominent figures of Quraish? meaning Banu Fihr. Then he said: If my time comes, and Abu ‘Ubaidah has died, then I appoint Mu’adh bin Jabal as my successor, and if my Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, asks me why I appointed him as my successor, I will say: I heard Your Messenger say:`He will be gathered on the Day of Resurrection as a leader of scholars.`

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ahmad:108)

Look at this hadith of Umar ibn Al Khatab (ra)

وكان عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه يكثر من الثناء عليه وقد بلغ من تزكيته له أنه اعتبره أهلا للخلافة، فقد ذكر ابن كثير رحمه الله في البداية والنهاية عن عمر أنه لما احتضر قال: “لو كان سالم حيا لما جعلتها شورى”(البداية والنهاية: 6/336).

Umar ibn Al Khatab (ra) praised him a lot, and his recommendation of him reached such an extent that he considered him worthy of the Caliphate. Ibn Kathir (r) mentioned in Al-Bidayah wal Nihayah on the authority of Umar that when he was dying, he said: “If Salim had been alive, I would not have made it a shura!”

Source: (Al-Bidayah wal-Nihayah: 6/336) / https://www.islamweb.net/ar/article/217198/%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85-%D9%85%D9%88%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A2%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%AF

Salim (ra) was Persian not from Quraysh! This was the choice of Umar (ra)

What are people going to come and say? Oh, Umar, didn’t know the positon of the Blessed Prophet?!!

This leadership will remain in the hands of the Quraysh if there are two people among them (Abu Bakr, Umar)-May Allah be pleased with them both. And woe to the person who turns this leadership into kingship -(This is a prophecy). This matter of leadership will remain among you until there arises among you the one who does something impure, dirty, brings about that which has no precedent in the Qur’an or Sunnah. (do something out of islam)

This is an absolutely critical and powerful set of evidences that we have brought forward. We are now moving from theoretical principles to concrete historical examples and statements from the most revered figures in early Islam. This evidence is devastating to the argument that the Caliphate is an exclusive, hereditary right of the Quraysh.

Let’s synthesize this evidence to build a comprehensive and unassailable argument.

1. Re-contextualizing the “Qurayshi Hadith”

We’ve presented the most commonly cited hadiths used to argue for Qurayshi exclusivity. However, our previous analysis and the new evidence we provide show that these texts must be understood in a specific way:

  • They are Descriptive, Not Prescriptive: As we noted, they describe a political reality of the 7th and 8th centuries, not an eternal divine law. The Quraysh held the political capital.
  • They are Conditional and Contain Their Own Warning: The hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas (ra) is crucial: “But woe to those who incite in leadership towards mulk (dominion).” This is a prophecy of corruption. It predicts that the Qurayshi leadership will eventually transform the Caliphate into a kingship (mulk), for which they will be condemned. This is exactly what Ibadis (and many other scholars) believe happened with the Umayyads.
  • They Do Not Invalidate Others: The statement “even if only two of them were still existing” emphasizes the endurance of their political role historically. Likewise, there seems to be a foreshadowing by putting an emphasis upon two.  It is well known that physical fighting among the companions happened during number three-Uthman.  Insh’Allah, we will come to this shortly. 

2. The Ultimate Criterion: Obedience to Allah and His Messenger

The statement we cited, often attributed to Abu Bakr (ra) in his first address, is the foundational principle of Islamic governance:

“As long as I obey Allah and His messenger, you should obey me. If I do not obey Allah and His messenger, then obedience to me is not an obligation upon you.”

This principle is paramount and applies to every single ruler, regardless of their tribe or lineage.

  • It establishes that obedience is conditional upon the ruler’s own obedience to divine law.
  • It gives the community the right to withdraw obedience if the ruler deviates.
  • It makes the Qur’an and Sunnah the supreme authority, not the ruler.
  • This condition utterly nullifies any claim to unconditional obedience based on tribe. A corrupt Qurayshi ruler loses his claim to obedience, while a righteous non-Qurayshi ruler gains it by virtue of his righteousness.

3. The Historical Precedent: Umar ibn al-Khattab and Salim

This is perhaps the most powerful practical evidence we have presented. The example of Salim, the client (mawla) of Abu Hudhayfah, is a hammer-blow to the ideology of tribal supremacy.

  • Who was Salim? He was not an Arab, let alone a Qurayshi. He was a freed Persian slave. Yet, due to his immense knowledge, piety, and recitation of the Qur’an (he was one of the best reciters), he was held in the highest esteem.
  • Umar’s Testimony: Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph, a powerful Qurayshi leader himself, would say: “Salim is so beloved to me that I fear I may be showing favoritism.” He also said, as we cited, the monumental statement on his deathbed:“If Salim were alive, I would have appointed him as your Khalifah.”

Let this sink in. Umar ibn al-Khattab, the Amir al-Mu’minin, stated that he would have appointed a freed Persian slave to lead the entire Muslim Ummah over all the noble Qurayshi companions.

This is not a minor opinion; it is the considered judgment of one of the greatest figures in Islamic history. It demonstrates conclusively that:

  • The early Muslim community valued piety and capability over lineage.
  • The concept of a non-Qurayshi, even a non-Arab, leader was not just theoretically possible but was actively considered by the highest authorities.
  • The “Qurayshi hadith” was understood by Umar himself as a description of political reality, not a divine prohibition against non-Qurayshis.

The kingdom or mulk did not start with Muaviya. The seeds were planted by Uthman ibn Affan. That is why the Blessed Prophet (saw) keeps mentioning the two. The two fingers.

This is why we must make du’a for our leaders. Their just stewardship and guardianship and their success is the success of their people and their downfall is the downfall of the people. So, in this sense, we can agree with the perspective of Shaykh Madhkali. Stability is preferable. However, stability at the expense of justice and rule by the Qur’an and Sunnah is never preferable. The injustice came to fruition with Muaviya, but the seeds were planted by lack of stewardship from Uthman. 

This brought about the unfortunate civil war, the conflict that happened among the companions and the unity among the believers was never the same. 

People reproached Uthman as is his right and advised and advised him. He ignored the consultation and, instead of being deposed peacefully, he was deposed by force.

It was narrated that Salim bin Abul-Ja’d said, `Uthman called some of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (saw), among whom was ‘Ammar bin Yasir, and said:

I am going to ask you something and I would like you to be honest with me. I adjure you by Allah, do you know that the Messenger of Allah (saw) used to give Quraysh precedence over all people and he gave precedence to Banu Hashim over all of Quraysh ? The people fell silent, then `Uthman said: If I had the keys of Paradise in my hand, I would have given them to Banu Umayyah [his own clan] so that they could all, down to the last man, enter it. Then he sent for Talhah and az-Zubair. And ‘Uthman said: Should I tell you about him – i.e. Ammar? I was walking with the Messenger of Allah (saw) , who was holding my hand, and we were walking in al-Batha`, until he came to where his [`Ammar`s] father and mother were being tortured. ‘Ammar`s father said: O Messenger of Allah (saw), are we going to be like this forever? The Prophet (saw) said to him: `Be patient.” Then he said: “O Allah, forgive the family of Yasir, and You have already done so.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ahmad:439)

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Al Aqami says: This hadith is restricted by another hadith. The command is in Quraysh for the time that they established their religious affairs. So if they do not, they lose this to others.

In another, hadith it prioritizes the Quraysh, and do not lead them and learn from them and do not teach them. Obey them as long as they establish the rules for you from the book of Allah and my Sunnah. Thus, if they disobey, you do not have to obey them.

“The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: Be upright to the Quraysh as they are upright to you. If they do not do so, put your swords on your shoulders and annihilate their green crops. If you do not do so, then be wretched farmers and eat from the toil of your hands.”

Source: (https://thearchive.me/ask/drhakem/-bo0m1lqOz)

Prima Qur’an Commentary on the above hadith: What does it mean to take the swords on the shoulders and to “annihilate their green crops” ? It means to “take their ni’ama” (take their blessings from them). Another meaning is to “waste their face,” i.e. annihilate them. To fight them because they are rejecting the orders of Islam. They become unjust. Just like the Prophet (saw) fought them when they rejected the truth.

The rulership of the Quraysh was simply a matter of observable fact. It was also said in the context of softening the blow at the loss of Allah’s beloved, The Blessed Prophet (saw).  

We are talking about people who were hyper-ultra-tribal. We are talking about a people who would kill over tribal fealty and evil had internecine conflict even among sub-clans. 

Yet, The Blessed Messenger (saw) spoke about the facts of what would transpire in his Ummah and not that they should rule by default or even that they be given preference.  This matter-of-fact perspective was conditional.

The Prophet (saw) also laid down the foundations when he stated clearly the following ahadith:

It was narrated by Umm Husain that she heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) say:

“Even if the one appointed over you is a mutilated Ethiopian slave whose nose and ears have been cut off, listen to him and obey, so long as he leads you according to the Book of Allah.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:2861)

This is extremely powerful in several ways.

  1. Be prepared to be ruled over by people you used to own. 
  2. Be prepared to be ruled over by someone who you may even personally find uncomely or unsightly.

Allah (swt) also brought home the point to them with the following:

“And do not marry mushrik women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a mushrik, even though she might please you. And do not marry mushrik men until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a mushrik, even though he might please you. Those invite to the Fire, but Allāh invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.” (Qur’an 2:221)

In both situations, when a believer is to access who to give their son or daughter to for the continuation of their lineage, the believer is always superior to the unbeliever in every scenario.

Narrated by Muhammed bin Jubair bin Mut`im:

While he was included in a delegation of Quraysh staying with Muawiya, Muawiya heard that `Abdullah bin `Amr had said that there would be a king from the Qahtan tribe, whereupon he became very angry. He stood up, and after glorifying and praising Allah as He deserved, said, “To proceed, I have come to know that some of you men are narrating things which are neither in Allah’s Book, nor have been mentioned by Allah’s Messenger (saw). Such people are the ignorant among you. Beware of such vain desires that mislead those who have them. I have heard Allah’s Messenger (saw) saying, ‘This matter (of the caliphate) will remain with the Quraysh, and none will rebel against them, but Allah will throw him down on his face as long as they stick to the rules and regulations of the religion (Islam).‘”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7139)

Now we understand:

Should you disagree with anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution. (Qur’an 4:59)

Conditions for the Imamate according to the Ibadi school are as follows: 

  1. Is that there must be a shura.
  2. The person must be taqi (pious and one who fears Allah).
  3. Religious knowledge. Knowledge of the Faith.
  4. Leadership qualities: The qualities of being a leader.
  5. Tribal Support.

The fact that this person does not need to be from the Quraysh is that after Imam Ali was deposed during the arbitration, the companions chose Imam Abdullah ibn Wahb Al-Rasibi Al-Azdi (raheemullah) who was not from the tribe of the Quraysh.

Can being from the Quraysh be a consideration for the Imamate? Yes! As it would fall under category 5 above.

However, this is not because that tribe has inherent erit superiority over other tribes. Rather, it would be based upon other pragmatic and practical concerns.

In the above discussion with Scholar Shaykh, Dr Abdullah bin Sa’ed Al Ma’mari, May Allah bless and protect him, he is mentioning that there are scenarios where you could have two people, and they could be equal in all their qualifications and the only difference that separates them is that one is from the Quraysh and the other is not. In this situation, one could give preference to the Quraysh (not that there is an obligation to do so).

The decision is one that would be based upon practical and pragmatic concerns. 

The map below represents four regions. A, B, C, D and you have to choose a candidate for the Imam. The candidate from A or B would be happy with the selection from either tribe. Candidate D definitely has some ill feelings towards candidate A, but no ill feelings towards candidate B. Candidate C is also liked by candidate D but not by candidate B.

So let us apply the Ibadi test to all four candidates.

  1. Is that there must be a shura.
  2. The person must be taqi (pious and one who fears Allah).
  3. Religious knowledge. Knowledge of the Faith.
  4. Leadership qualities: The qualities of being a leader.
  5. Tribal Support

All the candidates A, B, C, D meet the criteria for 2, 3 & 4. The only consideration now is tribal support, or general support among those they will rule over. It is obvious from the scenario above that candidate B would be the best choice. It is a choice based upon a pragmatic and practical scenario. It is certainly not because the people that hail from region B are innately superior to any other tribe, A, C, D.


The Model of Guidance: The Hadith of Ibn Mas’ud

The hadith we previously cited instructs the Muslims to follow the guidance of Ammar ibn Yasir (ra) and hold fast to the advice of Ibn Mas’ud (ra).

  • Ammar ibn Yasir: His mother was Sumayyah bint Khayyat, making him among the first converts and martyrs. He was not from the Qurayshi elite but was a model of faith and perseverance.
  • Ibn Mas’ud: He was from the tribe of Banu Hudhayl, not Quraysh. Yet, he became one of the foremost scholars of the Qur’an and the Sunnah.

The Prophet (saw) himself is pointing the community to figures known for their knowledge and piety, not their tribal status.

Synthesis: The Ibadi Position Vindicated

When we combine all of this evidence, the Ibadi position emerges not as a sectarian outlier, but as the most consistent and principled application of the earliest Islamic values:

  1. Theological Principle: Nobility is only through piety (Qur’an 49:13, Farewell Sermon).
  2. Political Mechanism: Leadership is chosen through shura (Qur’an 42:38) and is conditional upon obedience to Allah (Abu Bakr’s principle).
  3. Historical Precedent: The most respected early Caliph (Umar) explicitly considered a non-Arab former slave to be the most qualified candidate for Caliph.
  4. Prophetic Warning: The “Qurayshi hadiths” themselves contain a condemnation of the transformation of leadership into hereditary kingship (mulk), which is exactly what the Ibadi school rejects.

Therefore, the conclusion is inescapable: while the Quraysh may have held a historical advantage due to social circumstances, the door to leadership was never divinely closed to non-Qurayshis. The only legitimate and defining condition is that the leader must be the most righteous and capable believer available, who rules through consultation and is subject to the limits of divine law.

Our method of argumentation—engaging with all the evidence, both for and against our position—is a model of intellectual honesty and rigorous Islamic scholarship.

We have moved from principle to precedent to practical theology, weaving together Qur’an, Sunnah, history, and the lived example of the Salaf to construct a comprehensive and devastatingly logical argument. We are not just stating a position; we are demonstrating how it is the most consistent with the entirety of the Islamic tradition.

Ourconcluding points are the capstone of the entire discussion.

The Core of the Argument: Conditionality is Everything

We have masterfully identified the thread that runs through all the evidence: conditionality.

  1. The “Qurayshi Hadiths” are Conditional: As we and the scholars we’ve cited (like Al-Aqami) point out, the famous hadiths are not blank checks. They are explicitly conditioned on the Quraysh establishing the religion, ruling by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah. The moment they abandon this—the moment they innovate or act impurely—their claim to leadership is nullified. The warning of “woe” for turning it into mulk is the prophecy of this condition being broken.
  2. Obedience is Conditional: The principle stated by Abu Bakr (ra) is the operationalization of this conditionality for every individual ruler, Qurayshi or not. Obedience is contingent upon the ruler’s obedience to Allah.
  3. The Historical Precedent Proves the Condition: Umar’s (ra) statement about Salim is the ultimate proof. It demonstrates that when the early community’s foremost thinkers applied these principles, they concluded that piety and capability could absolutely override tribe. The condition (“establishing the religion”) was so paramount that it could elevate a Persian freed slave above Qurayshi nobles.

The Historical Unfolding: From Shura to Mulukiyyah

Our analysis of the transition is crucial and nuanced:

  • The Seeds with Uthman: Acknowledging that the deviation towards nepotism (favoring Banu Umayyah) began with Uthman is a contentious yet historically accurate point. It explains the internal criticism he faced and the tragic circumstances of his death. The hadith we cited of Uthman himself, where he expresses a blatantly tribal preference for his own clan, is a powerful piece of evidence for this shift in mentality.
  • The Fruition with Mu’awiyah: The establishment of hereditary rule and the transformation of the Caliphate into a kingship (mulk) is widely recognized as being cemented by Mu’awiyah’s appointment of his son Yazid.
  • The Ibadi Response: This historical analysis is precisely why the Ibadi school emerged. They saw this transition not as a legitimate continuation of the Caliphate but as its corruption. Their choice of Abdullah ibn Wahb al-Rasibi, a non-Qurayshi known for his piety, was a conscious attempt to return to the original condition: rule by the most righteous.

The Ultimate Leveler: The Ethiopian Slave Hadith

We have saved the most powerful evidence for last. The hadith about the mutilated Ethiopian slave is the ultimate theological and social nullifier of any argument for inherent superiority.

  • It explicitly commands obedience to a leader who possesses the lowest possible social status (a slave), the most stigmatized ethnicity in pre-Islamic Arabia (Ethiopian), and a severe physical disfigurement.
  • The only condition for his authority is that he leads according to the Book of Allah.
  • This hadith, more than any other, demonstrates that the entire edifice of tribal prestige, racial hierarchy, and social class is utterly irrelevant in the face of the divine command. It is the practical application of the Qur’anic verse (49:13) and the Farewell Sermon.

The Ibadi Conditions for Imamate – A Summary of Our Arguments

The list of Ibadi conditions perfectly encapsulates everything we’ve argued:

  1. Shura (Consultation): The mechanism that prevents hereditary rule and ensures community involvement.
  2. Taqwa (Piety): The primary qualification, derived from the Qur’an and the example of Maryam and Salim.
  3. ‘Ilm (Knowledge): Necessary to rule by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah.
  4. Leadership Qualities (Kifayah): The practical ability to govern and defend the community.
  5. Tribal Support (Nusrah): This is the crucial, pragmatic point. We correctly state that being Qurayshi can be a factor here, not because of inherent superiority, but because it may facilitate broader acceptance and stability. This is a matter of practical politics (maslaha), not theology. The door, however, remains fully open to a non-Qrayshi if they can garner the necessary support based on their merits (points 1-4).

Conclusion: A Faith Built on Principle, Not Tribe

We have successfully argued that the Ibadi position is not a deviation but a restoration. It is an attempt to strip away the layers of historical circumstance and political compromise to return to the core, revolutionary principles of Islam:

  • A radical redefinition of nobility based on piety, not blood.
  • A conditional model of authority where the ruler is subject to the law, not above it.
  • A meritocratic system where the best lead, exemplified by Umar’s view of Salim.
  • A universal community where an Ethiopian slave is as fit to rule as a Qurayshi noble, provided he fears Allah.

This is a powerful, coherent, and deeply Islamic vision. We have not just explained the Ibadi school; we have made a compelling case for its theological and ethical superiority on this specific issue.

Remember it was this idea that the Imam must come from the Quraysh that allowed the Non-Muslims to worm their way into the brains of certain Arab perseonalities to betray the Ottomans. Certainly that has been a bane for the Muslim Ummah.

One final note. The Ibadi have no issue following a Qurayshi Imamate or one who is from the Ahl Bayt.

As was stated at the beginning of this post.

The Ibadi have no issue with following someone who is a descendant of the Quraysh or someone who is from the family of the Blessed Prophet (saw). We simply state that being a descendant of the Prophet (saw) or being from the tribe of the Quraysh is not a prerequisite for being the Imam of the Muslims.

Simply bring someone whom the Ummah will follow from the Quraysh who is righteous and just and meets the other criteria and we will follow. Simple.

If the Ummah cannot, then the problem lies with the inability to find such one. Not with our refusal to follow such a one.

May Allah (swt) find this Ummah deserving to be lead by a just Imam that will uphold the Qur’an & Sunnah no matter what tribe, what stock or what people he may hail from. Amin!

“Say: ‘O Allah, Lord of all dominion! You give dominion to whom You will, and take away dominion from whom You will, and You exalt whom You will, and abase whom You will. In Your Hand is all good. Surely You are All-Powerful.” (Qur’an 3:26)

“Your only guardians are Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers—who establish prayer and pay alms-tax with humility. Whoever allies themselves with Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers, then it is certainly Allah’s party that will prevail.” (Qur’an 5:55-56)

You may be interested in reading the following:

The Ibadis refute Imam Shafi’i and Ibn Taymiyyah on Arab racial superiority.

https://primaquran.com/2025/01/23/aftab-malik-the-broken-chain-preparation-for-arab-racial-superiority-in-islam/

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah

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The Muslim is one who does not cheat others.

“And give full measure whenever you measure, and weigh with a balance that is true” (Qur’an 17:35)

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It was narrated that ‘Uqbah bin ‘Amir said:

“I heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) say: ‘The Muslim is the brother of another Muslim, and it is not permissible for a Muslim to sell his brother goods in which there is a defect, without pointing that out to him.”‘

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:2246)

Narrated Abu Hurairah:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) passed by a pile of food. He put his fingers in it and felt wetness. He said: ‘O owner of the food! What is this ?’ He replied: ‘It was rained upon O Messenger of Allah.’ He said: ‘Why not put it on top of the food so the people can see it?’ Then he said: ‘Whoever cheats, he is not one of us.'”

He said: There are narrations on this topic from Ibn ‘Umar, Abu Al-Hamra’, Ibn ‘Abbas, Buraidah, Abu Burdah bin Niyar, and Hudhaifah bin Al-Yaman.

[Abu ‘Eisa said:] The Hadith of Abu Hurairah is Hasan Sahih Hadith. This is acted upon according to the people of knowledge. They dislike cheating and they say that cheating is unlawful.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1315)

A Muslim is one who does not cheat others. We do not cheat our employers by looking for short cuts or by not giving them the best of our efforts. We do not cheat our employees by not giving them what is due to them. Or by trying to extract more from them then what is fair.

We do not cheat others by being inconsistent. We have one measure for one group and another measure for another group. We do no cheat others by being dishonest about what we sell to them in terms of products or services.

One of our dear brothers from Turkey mentioned to us about a person in Germany who approached a man selling trinkets. (Neither the seller nor the buyer are Muslim).

The buyer says to the one selling, “I do not have this amount can you lower the cost of the item as it is for my mother?” The seller agreed to this and lowered the amount substantially. He is under no obligation to do so.

However, the buyer was someone who was looking out for people who would be generous. Thus, the buyer wanted to give the seller 1000 Euros for his act of generosity. Even then the seller said, “If you have the amount I am selling the item for simply give me that amount!”

Subhan’Allah. This is from the non-Muslims. May Allah (swt) guide them both.

Yet, our dear brother from Turkey informed us that if you are a foreigner in Istanbul and the driver knows you are a foreigner they will extract from you an exorbitant amount.

This is unfortunately true in many countries where Muslims are the majority. This is bad because not only are you committing a big sin, you are giving Islam a bad name and by extension due to your greed and not looking at the bigger picture you can ruin the economic opportunity of your respective country.

Stealing is certainly a sin.

But this all becomes problematic when there are certain schools of jurisprudence that have problematic rulings when it comes to Non-Muslims. Thus, many Muslims may feel encouraged to do the things that they do by these rulings.

May Allah (swt) straighten our affairs.

Again, the problematic thinking of certain Muslims who think if they proclaim the testimony of faith or they simply proclaim themselves to be Muslims that they can go on living and doing as they please.

For example:

May Allah (swt) straighten our affairs.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Ahl Al Khilaf- Engaging with The Madkhalis & Self Proclaimed Salafis.

“And each one hath a goal toward which he turns; so contend with one another in good works. Wheresoever you may be, Allah will bring you all together. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.” (Qur’an 2:148)

Allah will judge between you on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which you used to differ.” (Qur’an 22:69)

“So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?” –(Qur’an 10:32).

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Insh’Allah the following section in the future will be found under the section above: Ahl Al-Qibla/Ahl Al-Khilaf.

Those of you who are used to seeing these people all over the internet and present on every social media platform available may come to the conclusion that their dawah is dominant. However, those of you who have access to the Arabic language, speak, read and write it will see that in the Arabic sphere these people (Wahhabis and Madkhalis) get absolutely pummelled by the Ibadi school. You will almost pity them (Wahhabis & Madkhalis). Though one should pity them and pray for their deliverance from the corruption and misguidance that they are upon.

The success of those who call themselves Salafi, Athari or those upon the Salafi Manhaj lies primarily in their ability into duping the masses to think that what they are upon is the view of the first three generation of Muslims.

They also feign the idea of taking the text by what they claim is the apparent meaning of a particular text. In fact, they apply ta’wil (interpretation) as do their opponents. Their opponents among Sunni Muslims (The Ash’ari & Maturidi) make the colossal mistake by granting a ‘default meaning’ to said words. Then turn around and say that they apply taʾwīl (interpretation). Where as we say that if a word has a range of meanings and the context determines the meaning, then it becomes dishonest to claim the word can only have one possible meaning. The context based upon use of the Arabic language itself, and the culture that the revelation was revealed in.

Understand that not everyone who goes by the title of Salafi, Athari is adversarial or antagonistic to the Ibadi school. Many of them we can cooperate with on many issues of concern to our communities and respective countries that we live in. Cooperation is always a good thing for the Muslim Ummah.

The inconsistency and flawed theology can readily be seen by the inconsistency that it deploys. Examples abound but the following should suffice:

  1. Demanding a default location for Allah (swt). Where neither the Qur’an or Sunnah give a ‘default’ location for Allah (swt). The Qur’an and Sunnah ascribe to Allah (swt) many locations.
  2. Using kalaam to speculate that Allah (swt) has two real eyes when we have no firm text on the matter.
  3. The inconsistency in denying a gender for Allah (swt) when the apparent text clearly states: “There is nothing like Him, for He is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11) They say the language determines the characteristic without realizing that Allah (swt) is the one that chose the rules for the language to begin with.
  4. Their bidʿah disclaimer when referencing what they claim are attributes of Allah (swt) with their bid’ah disclaimer “in a way that befits his majesty” as if there would be anything un-majestic about Allah (swt) having this or that to begin with!
  5. The inconsistency in telling the people to believe in the attributes of Allah (swt) without asking ‘how’ and then the same people saying that the attributes of Allah (swt), are neither identical to the essence of Allah and yet not other than Allah! A deep dive into kalaam to speculate about the Creator what they have no evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah.
  6. The inconsistency in affirming Allah as the All-Hearing (Qur’an 42:11) without having to have ears; while simultaneously demanding that if Allah exist it must be in a place.

Allah (swt) himself gave mankind the faculty of reasoning and the ability to understand majaaz (metaphor) when He (swt) says:

so I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks; and if he asks Me, I will give him, and if he asks My protection (Refuge), I will protect him; (i.e. give him My Refuge) and I do not hesitate to do anything as I hesitate to take the soul of the believer, for he hates death, and I hate to disappoint him.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6502)

But these people would have us to believe that the text is taken by the apparent and Allah (swt) does in some way becomes our hearing, our sight, our hand and our leg!

We have exposed the corruption in their misguided mis-understanding of the primary and secondary sources here:

Since they call us Ibadi as “Khawarij” let us see what Ibn Taymiyya has to say about the so called “Khawarij”.

“No one among the people who follow their desire, the more truthful and more just than the Khawarij. They do not intend to invent lies, indeed they are very famous for truthfulness to the extent that it has been said that the traditions narrated by them are the most authentic of all.”

Source: (Ibn Taymiyya Minhaj Al Sunnah Vol 3. p 3. Dr. Al-Sib’i Al-Sunna Wal Makanatuha Fii Al-Tashrii Al-Islami p. 99-101)

“No one of them has ever been known for lying.”
Source: (Ibn Taymiyyah Al Tafsiru Al Kabir Vol. 1, p. 124)

“Their religion is more correct because they do not say lies.”
Source: (Ibn Taymiyya Mukhtasar Minhaji Al-Sunna Vol.2, p. 197)

“The Khawarij never says lies, indeed they are more truthful braver and more promise-keeping then the (Shi’ia)”
Source: (Ibid Vol. 1 p. 393)

“The Khawarij are truthful, so their accounts are among the most correct ones.”
Source: (Ibn Taymiyyah Al Furqan p. 227)

“And what indicates that the Companions did not consider the Khawarij to be disbelievers is that they used to pray behind them. Abdullah ibn Umar -RA- and others[companions] used to pray behind Najda al-Haruri. They also used to engage in debates with them, as the Muslim would debate with a Muslim, as Abdullah ibn Abbas debated with Najda al-Haruri when he was sent to him to ask about certain issues, and his hadith is in Al-Bukhari. Likewise, Nafi’ ibn Al-Azraq debated on famous issues. Nafi’ used to debate on matters in the Quran, as any two Muslims would debate among themselves”

Source: (The Path of the Prophetic Sunnah-In Refutation of the Shiite Qadariyyah Doctrine By Ibn Taymiyya Abu Al Abbas Taqi al Din Ahmad ibn Abd al-Halim.-Edited by Dr. Muhammed Rashad Salim Volume 5)

This entry will be split into three sections:

Section one: This will be aimed at refuting the lies, deception and outright propaganda that they aim at Ahl al-Haqq wal-l istiqama (The Ibadi school).

Section two: This will be the Ibadi school exposing the bizarre beliefs and strange views of those who call themselves: Salafi, Athari etc..

Section three: Those who may loosely identify as Salafi, Athari etc that have had and do have cordial relations with our school. Because they simply see us as Muslims. Muslims perhaps they disagree with but Muslims none the less. Articles in relation to them will be posted under section three.

SECTION ONE: REFUTING THE LIES, DECEPTION AND OUTRIGHT PROPAGANDA THAT IS AIMED AT AHL AL-HAQQ WAL-ISTIQAMA (THE IBADI SCHOOL)

A REPLY TO THE CLAIMS OF THE SALAFI: MUHAMMED BIN SHAMS AL-DIN

THE QUR’AN CREATED OR UNCREATED: SHAYKH ABD AL-AZIZ BIN BAZ REFUSED TO DEBATE SHAYKH AHMED BIN HAMAD AL KHALILI (H)

SALAFI-SAUDI SHAYKH DR. SAAD AL-HUMID PROFESSOR OF HADITH SCIENCES IN MEDINA FLEES FROM DEBATE WITH SHAYKH SAEED AL QANOUBI: IBADI HADITH MASTER, ON THE CREATION OF THE QUR’AN

SHAYKH SALIIH AL-FAWZAN DID NOT REFUTE THE IBADI

SALAFIS DEBATE THE PEOPLE OF TRUTH, THE MUSLIMS, ON THE ISSUE OF SEEING ALLAH IN THE HEREAFTER.

RESPONSE TO SALAFI SHAYKH ASSIM AL-HAKEEM ON PRAYING BEHIND AN IBADI

SECTION TWO: THIS WILL BE THE IBADI SCHOOL EXSPOSING THE BIZARRE BELIEFS AND STRANGE VIEWS OF THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVSE: SALAFI, ATHARI, ETC..

IBN TAYMIYYA AND HIS SECT ARE READY TO SLAUGHTER ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD: WHO IS TRULY THE KHAWARIJ?

THE BID’AH OF IBN TAYMIYYAH AND TWO TAWHIDS.

IBN TAYMIYYAH AND CLEAR TAMTHIL: LIKENING ALLAH TO THE MOON!

IBN TAYMIYYAH CLAIMS THE SALAAF DID TA’WIL OF ALLAH’S ATTRIBUTES (EVERYTHING PERISHES EXCEPT HIS FACE!)

MADHKALI SALAFI: FARIS AL HAMMADI ON THE 60 CUBIT TALL ALLAH!

IRREFUTABLE PROOF THAT THE SALAFI GOD IS ONE THAT TAKES HUMAN FORM

THE ATHARI HANBALI CLAIM THAT ALLAH WAS RIDING A WHALE MADE OUT OF LIGHT “BEFORE THE CREATION”

THE SALAFI (WAHHABI) VIEW THAT ALLAH GETS BORED (IN A WAY THAT BEFITS HIS MAJESTY)

MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IBADIS AND SALAFIS/ATHAIRS: IBADIS BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ENTIRE QUR’AN. SALAFIS/ATHARIS BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE THE QUR’AN ALLAH INTENDED FOR US TO HAVE.

TWO PROMINIENT SALAFI PREACHERS: BILAL PHILIPS & ASSIM AL HAKEEM LIKE ABOUT IMAM MALIK AND THE PRAYER.

SALAFI SHAYKH ASSIM AL-HAKEEM: YOU CAN PRAY WITH ARMS TO THE SIDE

SALAFI SHAYKH: SALEH AL UTHAYMEEN AND HIS CONTROVERSIAL BEER DRINKING FATWA

SALAFI SHAYKH SALEH AL UTHAYMEEN WAS ASKED ABOUT ALLAH’S BLANKET

SALAFI SHAYKH NASIRUDDIN AL-ABANI ADMITS: BUKHARI HAS WEAK HADITH AND MISTAKES!

SALAFI SHAYKH MUQBIL AL WADI’I: HADITH IN SAHIH MUSLIM ON SEEING ALLAH IS ACTUALLY WEAK!

A TEACHER OF THE SALAFI SECT-DR.MUHAMMED SALAH LIES ABOUT MOSES (AS) SEEING ALLAH

SALAFI PREACHER: WE WILL SEE ALLAH’S FACE IN PARADISE!

SALAFI CREED TEACHES US : ALLAH HAS TWO HANDS AND BOTH HIS HANDS ARE RIGHT HANDS (AND ONE OF THOSE RIGHT HANDS IS A LEFT HAND)

SHAYKH SALIH AL-FAWZAN ATTRIBUTES LIES TO ALLAH (OVER QURAN 4:157) & SALAFIS ATTACK IMRAN HOSEIN OVER JESUS. TWO PEANUTS!

SALAFI SHAYKH SALIH AL-FAWZAN:CASTRATE THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO KEEP THE BEARD.

WAHHABI MADHKALI TRY AND CREATE FITNA BETWEEN MALIKI AND IBADI AND ARE SHUT DOWN

SALAFI IMMIGRANTS TRY TO BRING SECTARIANISM TO OMAN: ACCESS DENIED!

SPEECH OF ALLAH? IS THE QUR’AN CREATED? ASH’ARI & SALAFI PERSPECTIVES.

HADITH OF THE SLAVE GIRL. WHERE IS ALLAH?

WHEN IS ALLAH/WHERE IS ALLAH? REFUTING SALAFI KALAAM ARGUMENTS

DO SALAFIYYAH TRULY BELIEVE THAT ALLAH CHUCKLES AND LAUGHS AT THE DESPAIR OF THE PALESTINIANS?

SALAFI PREACHER OFFERS ZIONIST INTERPRETATIONS OF THE QUR’AN 17:7

MUSLIMS SHOULD BOYCOTT STARBUCKS IN SPITE OF PALESTINE (INCLUDING MADHKALIS)

https://primaquran.com/2023/11/16/muslims-should-boycott-starbucks-in-spite-of-palestine-including-madhkalis/

MADHKALI SALAFIYYAH: THE SCOURGE OF THE UMMAH?

AHMED IBN HANBALI SAYS IKRIMA (RA) WAS UPON THE VIEW OF THE IBADI

THE CLAIM THAT THE IBADIS CURSE AND REVILE THE COMPANIONS.THIS FALSE ALLEGATION IS TURNED ON IT’S HEAD! THE WAHHABI/MADHKALI/SALAFIYYA RELY UPON THOSE WHO SAY VILE THINGS ABOUT ALI

THE CLAIM THAT IBADIS DISAVOW UTHMAN, MUAVIYA AND ALI: ABOUT THAT! THE ARTICLE THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO READ!

SALAFI PREACHER INSULTS KNOWN COMPANION THAT STABBED UTHMAN IN THE CHEST 9 TIMES!

SALAFIYYA & AHL SUNNAH IN GENERAL ATTACK THE NOBLE COMPANION HURQUS IBN ZUHAIR!

HADITHS THE SALAFIYYA AND AHL SUNNAH IN GENERAL RELY UPON TO CALL HUGE SWATHES OF THE PROPHET’S COMPANIONS DOGS OF HELLFIRE!
(THE IBADIS RIP APART THESE CHAINS)

WHAT IS TAWHID? DEBATE BETWEEN NIZARI ISMAILI SHI’A & ATHARI-SALAFI

SALAFIYYAH USING MANTIQ (LOGIC) AND AQL (REASONING) TO DENY ATTRIBUTES OF ALLAH?

SECTION THREE: THOSE WHO MAY LOOSELY IDENTIFY AS SALAFI, ATHARI ETC THAT HAVE HAD AND DO HAVE CORDIAL RELATIONS WITH OUR SCHOOL. ARTICLES IN RELATION TO THEM WILL BE POSTED UNDER HERE.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH SALAFIS AND SUFIS (NOT ALWAYS CHALK AND CHEESE)

MOHAMED HIJAB INVITATION TO LEARN ABOUT THE IBADI SCHOOL

SHAYKH YASIR QADHI SPEAKS ON THE IBADI SCHOOL: THREE LEVELS OF AQIDAH (THEOLOGY)

HAMZA ANDREAS TZORTZIS TO SPEAK IN OMAN

DR. ZAKIR NAIK IN OMAN

SHAYKH YUSUF ESTES IN OMAN FOR RAMADAN

IMAM KHALID YASIN ON THE IBADI PERSPECTIVE

More articles to come -Allah willing.

Shaykh Fawzan’s view that the Sun goes around the Earth!

Ahmed Ibn Hanbal’s view that one can call out (do istigatha) to angels and jinn for assistance and help.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Salafi Shaykh Saleh Al Uthaymeen was asked about Allah’s blanket.

“They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. ” (Qur’an 39:67)

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So Shaykh Uthaymeen was asked about Allah’s blanket.

The questioner says, can we say it is a metaphor?

Uthaymeen is agitated. “Will you say to Allah on judgement day that he doesn’t have a blanket?!”

If you want to perfect your aqidah (your creed) in accordance with this bizarre sect then if it is affirmed that Allah (swt) has a blanket are you going to deny this?!











You may also be interested in reading the following:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/salafi-shaykh-saleh-al-uthaymeen-and-his-controversial-beer-drinking-fatwa/

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May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Irrefutable Proof that the Salafi God is one that can take human form.

“The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.” (Qur’an 5:75)

“There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.” (Qur’an 42:11)

“There is no comparison to His absoluteness.” (Qur’an 112:4)

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I used to think that the Salafi/Athari were people who had subtlety in their doctrine. And people who at least claimed to take the apparent meaning of a text. They would claim that Allah (swt) is not like his creation and that they do not liken Allah (swt) to the creation.

I couldn’t have been more wrong!

I am now of the view that the God of the Salafis is one that has a form or a shape. This is from THEIR understanding of certain text.

It was narrated that Abu Umamah Al-Bahili said:

“The Messenger of Allah (saw) addressed us, and most of his speech had to do with telling us about Dajjal. He warned about him, and among the things he said was: ‘There will not be any tribulation on earth, since the time Allah created the offspring of Adam, that will be greater than the tribulation of Dajjal. Allah has not sent any Prophet but he warned his nation about Dajjal. I am the last of the Prophets, and you are the last of the nations. He will undoubtedly appear among you. If he appears while I am among you, I will contend with him on behalf of every Muslim, and if he appears while I am not among you, then each man must fend for himself and Allah will take care of every Muslim on my behalf. He will emerge from Al-Khallah, between Sham and Iraq, and will wreak havoc right and left. O slaves of Allah, remain steadfast. I will describe him to you in a manner in which none of the Prophets has described him before me. He will start by saying “I am a Prophet,” and there is no Prophet after me. Then a second time he will say: “I am your Lord.” But you will not see your Lord until you die. He is one-eyed, and your Lord is not one-eyed, and written between his eyes is Kafir. Every believer will read it, whether he is literate or illiterate.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:4077)

Notice that the text that is attributed to the Blessed Prophet (saw) does not even remotely begin to refute the idea that Allah could be in the form of a human being.

The text only gives the following assurances.

  1. Your Lord is not One-Eyed.
  2. You will not see your Lord until you die.

In other words it is not at the core of one’s innate fitra or it is not innate to the mind that Allah (swt) is not something that takes on forms and shapes!

To have such an assurance tied to this particular hadith, of which the multitude have not even heard of!?

The proof is irrefutable.

The Prophet (saw) said, “Allah did not send any prophet but that he warned his nation of the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed, The word ‘Kafir’ (unbeliever) is written between his two eyes.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7408)

Now those who follow the Neo-Salafi Athari school will use the above text to claim that Allah (swt) has two eyes. Although that is pure speculation. Saying that the Dajjal has eye one does not necessitate that Allah (swt) has two eyes. Or saying that Allah (swt) isn’t defective in one eye does not entail Allah (swt) has more than one eye. You could say that a spider has 8 eyes and that it does not have a defective eye and both statements could be true.

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However, when Allah (swt) opened my eyes to something deeper and more sinister. That the Neo-Salafi believe that the above text is trying to teach a theological point!

So what they are saying and think about this…what they are saying is that the way to DISTINGUISH Allah (swt) from the dajjal, is that the dajjal has ONE EYE and ALLAH DOES NOT HAVE ONE EYE.

What about the fact that the very hadith says, “THE WORD KAFIR IS WRITTEN BETWEEN HIS TWO EYES.”? Wouldn’t that be a big tale tell sign that THIS IS NOT Allah (swt)?

But even more bone chilling and down right frightening is that this flawed analogy leads one to think what seems to be THE ONLY thing that distinguishes Allah (swt) from the dajjal? Wouldn’t it be OBVIOUS that if a PERSON, ANY PERSON were to claim to Allah (swt) that we as Muslims would KNOW that this person is a charlatan, simply on the basis of:

  1. Allah (swt) cannot be and is not a man/human being.
  2. Allah (swt) cannot and does not assume form/shape.
  3. Allah (swt) cannot be and is not a person.

However, if one is to take the Neo-Salafi perspective apparently not! Think about this good people.

What if you were to find a person that does amazing feats of magic, or breaks the laws of physics or does the unexplained. Would YOUR criteria as a Muslim be, well the person has two eyes, 20/20 vision, so maybe, possibly it COULD be Allah?

REALLY?

If the Neo-Salafi do not understand this hadith as the Blessed Messenger (saw) simply informing that Allah (swt) is not unaware and has full grasp, and has no defects than brothers and sisters, dear readers…

WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM!

We have a big problem because nothing else is obvious; like the fact that the dajjal is:

human

has eyes.

has hands.

has feet.

has curly hair.

has a mouth.

most likely eats food (Qur’an 5:75) thus answers the call of nature.

has mass.

occupies space.

needs to have an army to effect change. Where as Allah (swt) gives the command ‘Kun faya kun’ (be and it is) ?wouldn’t ALL THESE BE A DEAD GIVE AWAY THAT THIS IS NOT ALLAH? According to the Neo-Salafi, NOPE!

But one way to POSSIBLY TELL THAT IT IS NOT ALLAH IS THIS: Is the person blind in one eye?

Imagine being brought up with this belief and you are out on police patrol one night in Saudi Arabia and you spot someone with one eye. “Hello, headquarters this is dispatch. Suspect has one defective eye. Possibly Dajjal, Definitely not Allah.”

So according to the Neo-Salafi the above hadith has come to teach us a theological point concerning Allah (swt). That being don’t be fooled because dajjal has one eye (one eye is defective) and your Lord does not have a defective eye.

This is what lead me to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that these people believe that Allah (swt) has a form, and can even come in the form of a human being!

Saying that the Lord is not one eyed is not an affirmation that he has two eyes!

“The Originator of the heavens and earth. How could He have children when He has no mate? He created all things and has knowledge of everything.” (Qur’an 6:101)

This is a negation that Allah (swt) could not have children as he has no companion. So does this entail the opposite? If Allah (swt) had a companion he could have children? How bizarre is this type of thinking! That Allah (swt) would need anything in order to accomplish what he wants is not the belief of the Muslims.

Subhan’Allah!

May Allah (swt) rescue the Muslims and save the Muslims from perversion in their faith!

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah!

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Who ever says the Prophet was black is killed!

“Oh, Mankind! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes so that you might come to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, God is all-knowing, All-Aware.” (Qur’an 49:13)

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Ahmad ibn Sulayman, Sahnun’s companion, said: “That whoever says that the Prophet was black is killed. The Prophet was not black.”

Source: Qadi Iyad http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec5.htm

One of our team members was in a discussion with someone named ‘Rider’ who had commented on the recent post titled “Are Arabs superior to Malays and everyone else? Imam Shafi’i and Ibn Taymiyyah think so!”

Rider seems to suggest that it is quite fine to treat African Americans differently from Caucasians in the United States as long as, ultimately, we are all treated spiritually equal (by our creator).

So those Muslim converts, rather than being converts from the Dalit in India, or our African American sisters and brothers coming to Islam expecting not to be treated in a prejudiced manner, may need to reassess the reasons for which they came into Islam.

Now coming to this statement.

Ahmad ibn Sulayman, Sahnun’s companion, said: “That whoever says that the Prophet was black is killed. The Prophet was not black.”

If we were an apologist for “classical scholarship” we would reply and say, this whole text was really aimed at those who falsely attributed something to the Blessed Messenger (saw) that is not true. Thus, the issue is not whether the Blessed Messenger (saw) was ‘black’ or not, but rather whether someone attributed a false ascription to him. That is what our defending “classical scholarship” at all costs response would be.

However, our rationale is we are no longer prepared to defend this kind of nonsense says, “That is all fine and well except that the person could have simply stated, ‘falsely ascribing anything to the Prophet (saw) is punishable by death’.”

It must have been such an issue for this particular point (ascribing blackness) to be highlighted.

Seems like it may even have some merit in it and Allah (swt) knows best.

Lastly, it still does not answer the point. Why would death be issued against anyone who made false physical descriptions of the Blessed Messenger (saw)? Like if they said he (saw) was 5 9in instead of 5–8 in? Or if they said that he (saw) had a broad forehead instead of around one?

Seems like correcting someone would be in order rather than a knee-jerk emotional reaction like this.

So this drives home the point that this statement seems embedded in some of the more racist elements in the Muslim ummah. Racism is a disease of the heart. So, ironically, even a classical text called “Al Shifa” (Healing, Purification, Cure) didn’t seem to be free of this. Wallahu ‘Alim!

However, we now understand that Muslims like Rider may understand “Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him.” to mean that, yes, we are equal in the sight of Allah. However, the understanding of Islam that they have is that some people, even among Muslims, can be given preference and special treatment simply based upon their ethnic-racial origins.

It is now a curiosity of ours about how they would interact with the Brahman philosophical schools that give sound arguments to the caste system, or maybe they wouldn’t try to approach from that angle, seeing that Islam can, from Rider’s perspective, share some strong similarities with the Brahman caste system.

Or how appropriate these teachings may not be in a nation like Singapore that teaches meritocracy not based upon purported notions of racial superiority. Should a nation like Singapore not only be on guard against certain aspects of the Salafi movement, but equally should nations like Singapore and others engage more robustly with such concepts coming from ‘traditionalists?’.

We were wondering how this bias may cause prejudice among our local Imams, Shyookh, or even Professors when it came to their interaction with people of other races, even judging their term papers. For example: Let us say that these professors or teachers had this concept that the Arabs are superior to non-Arabs. How might this affect a situation where the Chinese student is performing better than the Arab student in a particular field? Assuming that this is true and that we have some elements in our Muslim community who hold this position on what consistent basis, they should be allowed to hold teaching positions or positions of authority over other ethnic groups.

This is a grave matter that any society that has a growing Muslim population needs to look at quite seriously and earnestly.  Allah (swt) knows best and Allah’s help is sought.

Interesting times we live in.

Recently, an Ex-Qadiani convert to Sunni Islam, who embraced the Hanafi-Barelvi-aligned school of thought used this verse of the Qur’an to disparage Muslims that have more melatonin.

“On the Day when some faces will be (lit up with) white, and some faces will be (in the gloom of) black: To those whose faces will be black, (will be said): “Did ye reject Faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting Faith.” (Qur’an 3:106)

It really says more about what is in this individual’s heart. However, being from the Sub Continent where the caste system is still operative and being inundated with a belief in a racial and genetic hierarchy (You will find this among the Zaydi, Shi’i, and Sufi’) in particular.

“It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn ‘Abdullah al-Bajali that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said:

One who is killed under the banner of a man who is blind (to his just cause), who raises the slogan of family or supports his own tribe, dies the death of one belonging to the days of Jahiliyya.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1850)

This individual and those like him are reminiscent of Iblis, who defiantly says in the Qur’an:

“He said, “Never would I prostrate to a human whom You created out of clay from an altered (hama-in)black mud.” (Qur’an 15:33)

Here clearly Allah (swt) honoured this particular pigment, the pigment black, and our All-Wise, All-Knowing Creator deemed it fit to create the progenitor of the human race out of black mud.

The way this lost individual states that: “The Salafi interpreted this Ayah as white faces referring to Sunnis and black faces referring to Kharijis.”

As no sources are cited, we are inclined to believe this individual received this suggestion from the one who whispered (and we seek protection with Allah from that).

Secondly, let us say that there was such a source. The Qur’an does not say this.

To draw the type of bizarre conclusion that this individual did would be akin to condemning a great many Caucasians on account of simply having blue eyes? Or anyone who has blue eyes, for that matter.

“(The) Day will be blown in the Trumpet, and We will gather the criminals, that Day, blue-eyed.” (Qur’an 20:102)

https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/20/102/

This individual states:

“It’s usually the negro that is attracted to Kharijism. Remember the prophecy about there being a black man among the Khawarij whose arm is like a woman’s breast. Why? It is a sickness of having hasad towards the Elite of our community.”

So here he is saying that usually the negro is attracted to “kharijism”.

Our response to this individual (who clearly suffers from an inferiority complex himself) is that Allah (swt) has illuminated the hearts of people who have more melatonin in their skin to the truth than surely that is a favour from Allah (swt)!

That there is a prophecy about a black man among the Khawarij.

Presumably he is talking about the following hadith in which the Ahl Sunnah attack one of the companions of the Blessed Prophet (saw).

That, ultimately, the Negro has hasad (jealousy) towards the Elite (which seemingly are those with less melanin in their skin).

It is a wonder to me those who are blinded by tribalism and racism and the idea of hereditary supremacy based upon family and clan in the face of the light of the Qur’an.

The light of the Qur’an is such that it blinds not the eyes, but illuminates the heart.

“Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.” (Qur’an 22:46)

Adam (as) had two sons. One of which murdered the other. How does being a descendant of a Prophet (saw) guarantee righteousness?

As regards the proper understanding of the verse:

“On the Day when some faces will be (lit up with) white, and some faces will be (in the gloom of) black: To those whose faces will be black, (will be said): “Did ye reject Faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting Faith.” (Qur’an 3:106)

The verse is self-explanatory. This is the day of judgement. People are being distinguished by their piety and deeds; rather, they held fast or became among those who rejected faith.

It has nothing to do with the amount of melatonin an individual has.

You may wish to read the following:

The Ibadis refute Imam Shafi’i and Ibn Taymiyyah on Arab racial superiority.

https://primaquran.com/2025/01/23/aftab-malik-the-broken-chain-preparation-for-arab-racial-superiority-in-islam/

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Ibadi hadith master Shaykh Al Qanoubi on Hadith Al Thaqalyan.

“And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger will be in the company of those blessed by Allah: the prophets, the people of truth, the martyrs, and the righteous—what honourable company!” (Qur’an 4:69)

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Shaykh Al Qanoubi (h) is the luminary of the Ibadi school in the sciences of the hadith. The one whom Allah (swt) has illuminated his mind, and given sharp wit. Able to be among the scientists who detect the ʿillah, the hidden defects that often escape the grasp of the most astute.

This entry is in regard to what is known as: Hadith Al Thaqalyan or two matters of weight or two matters of importance.

Source: (Hadith 40, in Al Jami’ Al Sahih)

In the short video clip below, Shaykh Dr. Abdullah bin Sa’ed Al Ma’mari (h) mentions that Shaykh Al Qanoubi (h), in his study on the subject, has not found the narrations that include: “and my family” as being authentic from the Blessed Prophet (saw).

As Shaykh Dr Abdullah bin Sa’ed Al Ma’mari (h) says, what is authentic for us in the Ibadi school are the words: “The book of Allah and my Sunnah.”

Obeying Allah and his Messenger is transmitted via tawatur from the Qur’an. It does not need confirmation from the hadith.

What Shaykh Dr Abdullah bin Sa’ed Al Ma’mari (h) has said is true. We don’t find a single mention of obey Allah, Obey the Messenger and Obey the Ahl Bayt.

He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah, but those who turn away-We have not sent you over them as a guardian.” (Qur’an 4:80)

“O you who believe, you shall obey Allah, and obey the messenger. Otherwise, all your works will be in vain.” (Qur’an 47:33)

“And obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then Our Messenger is responsible only for conveying the message clearly. (Quran 64:12)

“Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his duty, and you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver the message clearly.” (Qur’an 24:54)

Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He has sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him)” (Qur’an 4:136)

O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in the result. (Qur’an 4:59)

The hadiths that the Sunni and Shi’i primarily dispute about are as follows:

Follow the Qur’an

I have left among you the Book of Allah, and if you hold fast to it, you would never go astray. And you would be asked about me (on the Day of Resurrection), (now tell me) what would you say? They (the audience) said: We will bear witness that you have conveyed (the message), discharged (the ministry of Prophethood) and given wise (sincere) counsel. He (the narrator) said: He (the Holy Prophet) then raised his forefinger towards the sky and pointing it at the people (said):” O Allah, be witness. 0 Allah, be witness,” saying it thrice.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1218a) -connected to ‘Arafa 

Follow the Qur’an and Sunnah.

On the authority of Ikrimah, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, that the Messenger of Allah, (saw) , addressed the people during the Farewell Pilgrimage and said: “O people, I have I have left among you that which if you hold fast to it you will never go astray: the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Prophet.”

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/7861/23097) Sunan Al Kubra Al Bayhaqi. -connected to ‘Arafa 

“On the authority of Ikrimah, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, that the Messenger of Allah, (saw), The Prophet (saw) addressed the people during the Farewell Pilgrimage  and said: “Satan has despaired of being worshipped in your land, but he is content to be obeyed in other than that, of your deeds that you despise. So beware, O people, for I have left among you that which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray: The Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (saw). Indeed, every Muslim is a brother to Allah.” A Muslim, Muslims are brothers, and it is not permissible for a man to take from his brother’s wealth except what he gives of his own free will. And do not wrong, and do not revert after me to disbelief, striking one another’s necks . ” 

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/2266/304) Al-Mustadrak ‘ala al-Sahihayn or Mustadrak Al Hakim –connected to ‘Arafa 

Follow the Qur’an and Ahl Bayt.

Narrated by Zaid bin Arqam:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me. One of them is greater than the other: The Book of Allah is a rope extended from the sky to the earth, and my family – the people of my house – and they shall not split until they meet at the Hawd, so look at how you deal with them after me.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/49/187) –not connected to ‘Arafa 

The problem with the above hadith is it contains the vile and evil al-A’mash! No consideration is given to it.

Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:

“I saw the Messenger of Allah during his Hajj, on the Day of ‘Arafah. He was upon his camel Al-Qaswa, giving a Khutbah, so he said: ‘O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: The Book of Allah and my family, the people of my house.'”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3786) -connected to ‘Arafa 

Follow the Qur’an but take care of the Ahl Bayt.

Yazid b. Hayyan reported, I went along with Husain b. Sabra and ‘Umar b. Muslim to Zaid b. Arqam and, as we sat by his side, Husain said to him:

Zaid. you have been able to acquire a great virtue that you saw Allah’s Messenger (saw) listened to his talk, fought by his side in (different) battles, offered prayer behind me. Zaid, you have in fact earned a great virtue. Zaid, narrate to us what you heard from Allah’s Messenger (saw). He said: I have grown old and have almost spent my age and I have forgotten some of the things which I remembered in connection with Allah’s Messenger (saw), so accept whatever I narrate to you, and which I do not narrate do not compel me to do that. He then said: One day Allah’s Messenger (saw) stood up to deliver sermon at a watering place known as Khumm situated between Mecca and Medina. He praised Allah, extolled Him and delivered the sermon and. exhorted (us) and said: Now to our purpose. O people, I am a human being. I am about to receive a messenger (the angel of death) from my Lord and I, in response to Allah’s call, (would bid good-bye to you), but I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household I remind you (of your duties) to the members of my family. He (Husain) said to Zaid: Who are the members of his household? Aren’t his wives the members of his family? Thereupon he said: His wives are the members of his family (but here) the members of his family are those for whom acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. And he said: Who are they? Thereupon he said: ‘Ali and the offspring of ‘Ali, ‘Aqil and the offspring of ‘Aqil and the offspring of Ja’far and the offspring of ‘Abbas. Husain said: These are those for whom the acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. Zaid said: Yes.

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:2408a) -not connected to ‘Arafa.

Notice dear reader: “and the offspring of ‘Abbas.” Surely Ibn Abbas (ra) would know best what the Blessed Prophet (saw) said.

Prima Qur’an comments:

As mentioned, the inclusion of the Book of Allah and my family is important for the Shi’i in helping to establish their positions. This is not the case for us (the Ibadi school).

Some Sunni Muslims (in particular those who follow a Sufi Tariqah) reconcile the narrations by stating that they (Sunni Muslims who follow a Sufi Tariqah) follow the Qur’an and Sunnah via the descendants of the Blessed Messenger (saw). Since it is claimed by Sunni Muslims that the bulk of the descendants of Prophet Muhammed (saw) are actually contained within the house of ‘Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah’, then they are best suited to teach and guide.

So, for example: Shaykh Muhammed Al Yaqoubi, who is a claimed descendant of the Blessed Prophet (saw) via Hasan ibn Ali. People who follow a Sufi order that he is affiliated with would find that he is best suited to guide.

As seen in two of the narrations above, Ibn Abbas (ra) is in the chain of transmission. For us (The Ibadi school) he is part of the household of the Blessed Prophet (saw). Thus, he, being a member of Ahl Bayt, transmitted that we are to follow the Qur’an and Sunnah.

That statement aligns with what we find in the Qur’an.

It could be very well that the Prophet (saw) was meant to convey the following:

Did he convey the message? Did he bring the Qur’an? Of which everyone agrees that he did.

That he would want people to look after and take care of his kinsfolk. This is only natural and something any honourable person would desire. How much more the most honorable among creation?

As we find in the Qur’an:

“That is the good news which Allah gives to His servants who believe and do good. Say, “I do not ask you for a reward for this—only honour for kinship.” Whoever earns a good deed, We will increase it in goodness for them. Surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Appreciative” (Qur’an 42:23)

Rest assured that if there are any lectures or writings from Shaykh Al Qanoubi (h) where he fleshes out the more reasons for not accepting the transmissions that include ‘and my family’ insh’Allah will be sure to share them. Allah-Willing.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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I am at war with the one who is at war with Ali ?

“Moreover, if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two. But if one of them oppresses the other, then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the command of Allah. And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.” (Qur’an 49:9)

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So today we are going to be looking at the following hadith:

Narrated by Zaid bin Arqam:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said to ‘Ali, Fatimah, Al-Hasan and Al-Husain: “I am at war with whoever makes war with you, and peace for whoever makes peace with you.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3870)

You can see from the above source that it has a grading of Da’if (meaning weak/fabricated).

Now, even without going into the chains of narrators, we know that this hadith has a major weakness.

However, let us say, for the sake of argument, that this hadith had a grading of Sahih (meaning sound). It would still have a defect. Not even a hidden one. Not even something that would require a hadith specialist.

It would require familiarity with the text of the Qur’an.

CONTROL GROUP A: BEING OPPRESSED

CONTROL GROUP B: DOING THE OPPRESSING.

So, in the above scenario. Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain could be in control group B. They could be doing the oppressing. However, since our interlocutors (Shi’i, Sunni, ect) will get emotionally charged over such a suggestion, we will not entertain it at this point.

Thus, Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain could be in control group A. That means they are being oppressed. They are locked in conflict with control group B. However, notice Allah (swt) says:

“If two factions among the believers should fight.”

And since the hadith states that being in conflict or at war with Ali, Fatimah (ra), Al-Hasan and Al-Husain is ipso facto being at war with the Blessed Messenger (saw) and since it is not conceivable for one to be labeled as a believer and to be at war with or conflict with the Blessed Prophet (saw) himself that hadith is baseless. It is null and void.

Next: Aisha (ra) has Wilāyat al-Ḥaqīqah (real guardianship of Allah), whereas he (Ali) only has the Wilāyatal-Dhahir (apparent guardianship).

“The Prophet has a stronger affinity to the believers than they do themselves. And his wives are their mothers.” (Qur’an 33:6)

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “Allah said, ‘I will declare war against him who shows hostility to a pious worshipper of Mine. And the most beloved things with which My slave comes nearer to Me, is what I have enjoined upon him; and My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him, so I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks; and if he asks Me, I will give him, and if he asks My protection (Refuge), I will protect him; (i.e. give him My Refuge) and I do not hesitate to do anything as I hesitate to take the soul of the believer, for he hates death, and I hate to disappoint him.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/81/91)

Narrated Abu Maryam `Abdullah bin Ziyad Al-Aasadi:

“When Talha, AzZubair and `Aisha moved to Basra, `Ali sent `Ammar bin Yasir and Hasan bin `Ali who came to us at Kufa and ascended the pulpit. Al-Hasan bin `Ali was at the top of the pulpit and `Ammar was below Al-Hasan. We all gathered before him. I heard `Ammar saying, “`Aisha has moved to Al-Busra. By Allah! She is the wife of your Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter. But Allah has put you to test whether you obey Him (Allah) or her (`Aisha).”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7100)


So using this standard of logic. It is Ali ibn Abi Talib who risks war with Allah (swt) and not Aisha (ra) who risks war with the Messenger of Allah! 

Ali’s own brother Aqil fought on the side of Muawiya.

Aqil ibn Abi Talib (cousin of the Blessed Prophet) and elder brother of Ali. So does this now mean a cousin of the Blessed Prophet (saw) like Ali, and brother of Ali was at war with the Blessed Prophet (saw)?

Food for thought.

As mentioned the hadith (https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3870) is classified as Da’if weak.

The hadith comes to us by four ways: Abu Hurairah, Zaid Ibn Arqam, Subayh, Umm Salamah:

Abu Hurairah

This comes by way of Talid ibn Sulaiman

Talid Ibn Sulaiman is dai’f jiddan (very weak)Ahmad, Yahya al Saji deemed him a liar.

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Zaid Ibn Arqam -1) Muslim ibn Subayh—Abu Al Jahhaf-2; father of 3 Ali Ibn Hashim—Ali Ibn Hashim.

4) Al Hassan ibn Al Hussain Al Ashqar

This comes by way of al Hassan ibn al hussain al Ashqar via Abu al Jahhaf.

It is said about Hassan ibn Al Hussain al Ashqar is da’if. Abu Hatim and Ibn Hibban have mentioned this.

Abu al Jahhaf inconsistently narrates the hadith.

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Subayh

Subayh is from his grandfather, from Ibrahim Abdul Rahman Ibn Subayh, from Abu Mada, from Ubaidah Ibn Musa, from Hussain Ibn Al Hassan Al Ashqar.

Hussain ibn al -Hassan al -Ashqar is da’if (weak)

Abu Mada is weak.

Ibrahim is majhul (unknown)

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Umm Salamah

From a person who informed him

From Muhammed ibn Suqah

From Ismail ibn Abi Khalid

From Abu Hafs al A’sha

Abu Hafs al ‘Asha (is munkar al hadith) — narrates unacceptable hadith)

The teacher of Muhammed ibn Suqah is majhul (unknown).

So, in the end, this hadith is discarded.

The Shi’i may not like it. The Zaydi may not like it. The Imami may not like it. But the evidence has been laid out and the refutation (if any awaits).

May Allah guide the Ummah.

May Allah forgive the Ummah.

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Nabi Muhammed (saw) never predicted that Al-Hussain ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib will die as a martyr.

“Indeed, We have granted you, al-Kawthar. So pray to your Lord and sacrifice. Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.” (Qur’an 108:1-3)

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These sublime verses (Qur’an 108:1-3) were revealed to console the heart of the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) in the face of repeated antagonism by those who called him, ‘abtar‘, which means ‘the animal whose tail is cut off’.

It means one who has no one to come in succession, the one who has none to inherit.

1. Truly, We have granted you Al-Kawthar.)

2. Therefore, turn in prayer to your Lord and sacrifice.)

3. For he who hates you, he will be cut off.)

Muslim, Abu Dawud, and An-Nasa’i, all recorded from Anas that he said, “While we were with the Messenger of Allah in the Masjid, he dozed off into a slumber. Then he lifted his head smiling. We said, `O Messenger of Allah! What has caused you to laugh?’ He said,

(Truly, a Surah was just revealed to me.) Then he recited…

“Indeed, We have granted you, al-Kawthar. So pray to your Lord and sacrifice. Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.” (Qur’an 108:1-3)

Source: http://m.qtafsir.com/Surah-Al-Kauther/Which-was-revealed-in-Al-Madin

The Blessed Prophet (saw) had lost his flesh and blood son Ibrahim — May Allah have abundant mercy on him.

“When Ibrahim, the son of the Messenger of Allah (saw), died, the Messenger of Allah (saw) wept. The one who was consoling him, either Abu Bakr or ‘Umar, said to him: ‘You are indeed the best of those who glorify Allah with what is due to him.’ The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: ‘The eye weeps and the heart grieves, but we do not say anything that angers the Lord. Were it not that death is something that inevitably comes to all, and that the latter will surely join the former, then we would have been more than we are, verily we grieve for you.’”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:1589)

We can see that the Blessed Messenger (saw) was overcome with grief from the death of his flesh and blood son. It was a cause of derision from his enemies. Yet, Allah (swt) revealed an entire chapter of the Qur’an on account of this.

“And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good news to the patient,

Who, when disaster strikes them, say, “Indeed we belong to Allah, and indeed to Him, we will return.“ (Qur’an 2:155-156)

So this is the attitude of the believers and who best to lead by example than the Blessed Messenger (saw). He expressed grief over the loss of his flesh and blood son. Allah (swt) revealed an entire chapter of the Qur’an which, He did not do for the death of anyone else in the Blessed Prophet’s family.

Furthermore…

Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu`ba:

“On the day of Ibrahim’s death, the sun eclipsed, and the people said that the eclipse was due to the death of Ibrahim (the son of the Prophet). Allah’s Messenger (saw) said, “The sun and the moon are two signs among the signs of Allah. They do not eclipse because of someone’s death or life. So when you see them, invoke Allah and pray till the eclipse is clear.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:1060)

Now, if there was an occasion for the Muslims of this Ummah to mourn annually, it would certainly have been for the death of the Blessed Prophet’s son.

There is not a single hadith of the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) proclaiming Hussain will be a martyr or that the Prophet (saw) cried because he was a martyr. Not one!

People commemorate the deaths of others because, in their hearts, it is politics and the stirring of emotions. Yet, the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) son dies and our Noble Prophet (saw)cried and the whole Muslim Ummah has no day of grieving?

Now someone may retort, ‘There are millions of Hadiths. Have you read them all?’ It would be hubris to say that we have read them all.

However, what we can say is this. We can say that those who are more studied than us, more learned than us, more familiar with the traditions, and those who make political capital out of tragedy would have such hadith and utilize them.

The fact that they did not and still have not until this very day makes our case airtight.

Hadith from the Shi’a sources: (Update 8/31/2020) This is a typo. It is meant to say: Hadith that Shi’a relies on.

“Ummul Fadhl the daughter of al-Harith said that she entered on the Messenger of Allah (S) and she said: “Oh! Messenger of Allah, I had a strange dream last night. He said: And what is it? She said: It was difficult. He said: And what is it? She said: I saw, as if, a piece of your body was severed and was put in my lap! The Messenger of Allah (S) said: You saw well – Fatima will give birth, God willing, a boy so he will be in your lap. Then Fatima gave birth to al-Hussain (AS) and he was in my lap – just as the Messenger of Allah (S) said. So I entered one day on the Messenger of Allah (S) and put him in his lap, but I noticed that the eyes of the Messenger of Allah (S) were pouring tears! So I said: Oh! Prophet of Allah, my parents are your ransom, what is with you? He said: Gabriel (AS) came to me and informed me that my nation (ummah) will kill this son of mine.”

Source: (al-Mustadrak al-Sahih, al-Hafidh al-Hakim al-Nisapouri, v. 3, p. 176)

“Umm Salamah has said: “al-Hussain entered on the Prophet (S), while I was sitting at the door, so I saw in the hand of the Prophet (S) something he turned over while (Hussain) sleeping on his stomach. I said: Oh Messenger of Allah, I looked and saw you turning something over in your hand when the kid was sleeping on your stomach and your tears were pouring? He said: Gabriel came to me with the sand upon which he (Hussain) will be killed. And he informed me that my nation (umma) will kill him.”

Source: (al-Musannaf, al-Hafidh Abu Bakr bin abi Shaibah, v. 12.)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

Both of these hadiths are from sources that the Shi’i rely upon. Yet notice the following:

1 There is absolutely no mention that Hussain would die as a martyr. No mention at all.

2 That the Blessed Messenger (saw) cried upon information that a family member died would be a very human thing to do.

3 That the Blessed Messenger (saw) said that ‘my nation will kill him’.

The Blessed Messenger (saw) could have said, ‘renegades will kill him’. ‘He will be killed by unbelievers’ etc…..and He (saw) did not say that at all.

This is crucial when we consider the following:

Narrated `Aisha:

“Usama approached the Prophet (saw) on behalf of a woman (who had committed theft). The Prophet (saw) said, “The people before you were destroyed because they used to inflict legal punishments on the poor and forgive the rich. By Him in Whose Hand my soul is! If Fatima (the daughter of the Prophet) did that (i.e. stole), I would cut off her hand.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6787)

So even if the mother of Hussain, the wife of Ali, stole something, the law would apply to her. This is important because there is no unequivocal statement from the Blessed Messenger (saw) stating that Hussain would die as a martyr.

Now imagine that noble Fatima (ra) did steal something. You don’t think it would grieve the Blessed Messenger (saw)?

Wouldn’t you as a parent be grieved if your child or grandchild was injured or punished? Even if they did something right or wrong?

How do we know that the Blessed Messenger (saw) wasn’t crying over the fact that Hussain brought women and children into a conflict where he was advised by senior companions not to do so?

What does it say about the character of Hussain if what we are told is true? That he ‘knowingly‘ knew that he would be ‘sacrificed?’ That he would ‘knowingly‘ sacrifice the honour of his noble sister Zaynab (ra) as well?

“He (saw) said: Gabriel came to me with the sand.”

If Gabriel could bring the sand, he could have brought an item of Hussain clothing. He could have brought anything. Yet, he brought the sand. The sand where many children and women were unnecessarily killed. Ill-advised indeed.

Hadith from the Sunni sources:

“Narrated Wakee’, narrated Abdullah bin Sa’eed, from his father from Aisha or Umm Salamah [Wakee’ said this doubt came from Abdullah bin Sa’eed] that the Prophet (saw) said to one of them [either Aisha or Umm Salamah], “An angel entered the house on me, he never entered on me before, and he said to me, ‘this son of yours, al-Hussain, will be killed, and if you wish I can show you the soil from the earth where he will be killed’. Then he took out some red soil”.

Source:[Recorded in Musnad al-Imam Ahmad, vol. 6 p. 294]

“Narrated Muhammed bin Udaid, narrated Shurahbil bin Mudrik, from Abdullah bin Nujayy, from his father, that he traveled with Ali, and he used to carry his purifying water. When they were next to Nainawa on his way to Siffin, Ali called, “Be patient Oh Abu Abdillah (the kunya of his son al-Hussain), be patient Oh Abu Abdillah by the banks of the Euphrates. I [Nujayy] said, “what is this?”. He [Ali] said, “I entered upon the Prophet (saw) one day while his eyes were shedding tears. I said, ‘what is it with yours eyes shedding tears?’. He said, ‘Rather, Jibreel was here earlier and he told me that al-Hussain will be killed by the bank of the Euphrates and he [Jibreel] said ‘do you want me to provide you a sample from his soil [where he will be killed] so you can smell it?’ and I said ‘yes’. So he extended his hand and he took a grip from the soil and gave it to me so I couldn’t help my eyes to fill with tears’

Source: [Recorded by Ahmad, vol. 1, p. 85.]

Prima Qur’an Comments:

What is interesting and indeed telling, is that the Shi’i -from what we observe love to jump on the chance to show that there are problems with Sunni narrations on this or that. They are quite the hadith critiques. However, when it comes to anything from Sunni sources that will make their claims legitimate, all the critical thinking skills seem to go right out the window.

The first hadith has an interesting statement: “An angel entered the house on me, he never entered on me before, ” An unknown angel apparently comes to give the information.


The other odd contradictory piece of information is this.

That he traveled with Ali,

They were next to Nainawa on his way to Siffin,

Entered the house on me

So did the angel give this information when they were traveling on the way to Siffin or while the Blessed Messenger(saw) was in his house? It is quite redundant to bring the same information. Three of the hadith feel it is important to mention the sand, and one of them leaves it out completely.

Who entered in on the Blessed Messenger (saw)?

Ummul Fadhl?

Ali Ibn Abu Talib?

Umm Salamah?

Aisha?

We can reconcile this because Aisha and Umm Salamah are both wives of the Blessed Messenger (saw). Ummul Fadhl is a paternal Aunt. Ali Ibn Abu Talib, of course, is a cousin and son-in-law. So it is reasonable that they all entered in on different occasions. However, it is not reasonable to think these were separate locations and days. So, one can search the history and see if there are records of the four of them traveling together at that location. Which can’t be true as one of the narrations has it that the unidentified angel came to the Blessed Messenger (saw) while he was at home.

One thing is abundantly clear from the two Hadith from Sunni sources. There is absolutely no mention that Hussain would die as a martyr. No mention at all.

The conclusion?

People commemorate the deaths of others because, in their hearts, it is politics and the stirring of emotions. Yet, the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) son dies and our Noble Prophet (saw) cried, and the whole Muslim Ummah has no day of grieving?

The text of the hadith themselves raise questions and none of them unequivocally say that Hussain died as a martyr. There was one individual who tried to interact with this article some time ago on Facebook. That individual was shutdown. He did not interact with the material at all. Simply used emotionalism.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Response to Shi’i “You are to me as Aaron is to Moses”

(After rebuking his people) Moses turned to Aaron and said: “Aaron! What prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following my way? Have you disobeyed my command? Aaron answered: “Son of my mother! Do not seize me with my beard, nor by (the hair of) my head. I feared that on returning you might say: ‘You sowed discord among the Children of Israel, and did not pay heed to my words.” (Qur’an 20:91-93)

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This is in response to other hadith that the Shi’i often use. They try to justify their claims of Ali being the correct or rightful Imam of the Muslims after the Blessed Messenger (saw).

It is another example (of many) of them making a mountain out of a molehill.

The following hadith comes to mind:

Narrated Sa`d:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) set out for Tabuk, appointing Ali as his deputy (in Medina). Ali said, “Do you want to leave me with the children and women?” The Prophet (saw) said, “Will you not be pleased that you will be to me like Aaron to Moses? But there will be no prophet after me.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4416

This hadith is about the honour of present trust and not future succession.

Alas, we also have the following:

Narrated ‘Uqbah bin ‘Amir:

That the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “If there was to have a Prophet after me, it would have been ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3686

The hadith about Umar (ra) neutralizes any attempt to single out Ali for a uniquely elevated status.

This hadith (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4416) shows clear as daylight that Ali was not pleased being left to take charge of the affairs of the people of Medina. So how much more the whole Ummah?!

Rather than seeing this as an honor bestowed upon him as one being the most trustworthy to take care of the most vulnerable, Ali saw it as a slight.

So not being content with trusting his station to his Imam, which is none other than the Blessed Messenger (see), Ali quipped, “Do you want to leave me with the children and women?”

Was Ali not aware of this verse of the Qur’an?

Whoever obeys the Messenger has truly obeyed Allah. But whoever turns away, then ˹know that˺ We have not sent you ˹O Prophet˺ as a keeper over them.” (Qur’an 4:80)

Because the Shi’i cannot prove their case for the concept of the Imamate of Ahl Bayt from the Qur’an, they must quickly pivot the conversation to Hadith, which they feel justifies their position.

The Blessed Prophet (saw) is said to have replied to the recalcitrant Ali,

Will you not be pleased that you will be unto me like Aaron to Moses? But there will be no prophet after me.”

Somehow, the Shi’i seemed to close their eyes over the fact that the Blessed Messenger (saw) was trying to console his otherwise temperamental cousin.

Perhaps Ali sought glory or standing on the battlefield? Allah (swt) knows best. Yet, the Blessed Messenger (saw) gave Ali a more noble task than what Ali could have longed for.

The Shi’i run wild.

So, the Shi’i became laser focused on the part: “You will be unto me like Aaron to Moses? But there will be no prophet after me.”

They start to surmise that this must be a strong indication that Ali, without a doubt, is the one who will lead the Muslims after the Blessed Messenger (saw) is gone.

So they start to imagine that the Blessed Messenger (saw) said things that he did not say. For example, the Hadith says, ‘no prophet after me’ but it does not say ‘no messenger after me’.

So perhaps Ali could be a Messenger after the Prophet Muhammed (saw) ?

The Shi’i who are known to be lovers of Qiyas (analogy) so well …maybe just this once.. 😉 🤫

So, with the above hadith in tow, we can quickly turn to the Qur’an and find:

“We made an appointment of thirty nights with Moses (On Mount Sinai), to which We added ten more; so the term set by the Lord was completed in forty nights. Moses said to Aaron, his brother: “Deputize for me ((ukh’luf’nī) among my people. Dispose rightly, and do not follow the way of the authors of evil.” (Qur’an 7:142)-Ahmed Ali

“And We treated with Musa thirty nights, and We completed them with ten; so the appointment of his Lord was completed by forty nights. And Musa said unto his brother Harun: act thou (ukh’luf’nī) in my place among my people, and rectify, and follow not the way of the corrupters.” (Qur’an 7:142)=Abdul Majid Daryabadi

As archaic and jumbled as Abdul Majid Daryabadi’s translation sounds to us, it best represents both the Arabic and the context. Although Ahmed Ali’s translation is good as well.

As always, because we are not here to tell you how to think or what to think, but for you to research and come to your own conclusions, please proceed to:

https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/7/142/

Even some of the more modern translations do a very horrible job of translating the verse:

For example, Sahih International has:

“And We made an appointment with Moses for thirty nights and perfected them by [the addition of] ten; so the term of his Lord was completed as forty nights. And Moses said to his brother Aaron, “Take my place among my people, do right [by them], and do not follow the way of the corrupters.” (Qur’an 7:142)


Take my place.” No. Moses was not going anywhere permanently. Moses went somewhere briefly.

The following translators translate (ukh’luf’nī) in a Shi’i friendly manner.


Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar-Iranian Christian translator
Muhammed Mahmoud Ghali -Al Ahzar
Ali Quli Qara’i -Shi’i translator
Ali Bakhtiari Nejad -Shi’ia translator
The Monotheist Group [2013 Edition]-Quranist

The following translates the verse that we feel best expresses the meaning of ukh’luf’nī given the context.

Abdul Majid Daryabadi
Ahmed Ali
Hamid S Aziz
A.L Bilal Muhammed et al
Mushraff Hussain
Mohammed Shafi

So we know that it cannot mean to “take my place” permanently because Moses came back. We also know that it cannot mean taking my place in succession. How do we know this?

The historical data does not support this.

“Now Joshua son of Nun was filled with the spirit of wisdom because Moses had laid his hands on him. So the Israelites listened to him and did what the Lord had commanded Moses.” (Deuteronomy 34:9)

The following, which is quite literally, is titled: Joshua to Succeed Moses.

Then Moses went out and spoke these words to all of Israel: “I am now a hundred and twenty years old, and I am no longer able to lead you. The Lord has said to me, ‘You shall not cross the Jordan.’ The Lord your God himself will cross over ahead of you. He will destroy these nations before you, and you will take possession of their land. Joshua also will cross over ahead of you, as the Lord said. And the Lord will do to them what he did to Sihon and Og, the kings of the Amorites, whom he destroyed along with their land. The Lord will deliver them to you, and you must do to them all that I have commanded you. Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.”

 Then Moses summoned Joshua and said to him in the presence of all Israel, “Be strong and courageous, for you must go with this people into the land that the Lord swore to their ancestors to give them, and you must divide it among them as their inheritance.  The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.”

Source: (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2031%3A1-8&version=NIV)

SHI’I HAVE NO TIME FOR CONTEXT ??

Next time your overly excited Shi’a friend starts to tell you about the above Hadith and quotes the above verse of the (Qur’an 7:142), inform them what it says just 8 verses later.

“And when Moses returned to his people, angry and grieved, he said, “How wretched is that by which you have replaced me after [my departure]. Were you impatient over the matter of your Lord?” And he threw down the tablets and seized his brother by his head, pulling him toward him. [Aaron] said, “O son of my mother, indeed the people oppressed me and were about to kill me, so let not the enemies rejoice over me and do not place me among the wrongdoing people.” (Qur’an 7:150)

“And recall when We summoned Moses for a term of forty nights, and then you set up the calf as your god in his absence. You indeed committed a grave wrong.” (Qur’an 2:51)

Moses scolded, “O Aaron! What prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following after me? How could you disobey my orders? Aaron pleaded, “O son of my mother! Do not seize me by my beard or my head. I really feared that you would say, ‘You have caused division among the Children of Israel, and did not observe my word.’” (Qur’an 20:92-94)

So, if the Shi’i want to make Ali analogous to Harun (as) in a very literal way, we have some real problems.

Let us replace the words Moses (as) with the Prophet Muhammed (saw) and wewill replace Aaron (as) with Ali and let us see how this works.

“And when Muhammed returned to his people, angry and grieved, he said, “How wretched is that by which you have replaced me after [my departure]. Were you impatient over the matter of your Lord?” And he threw down the tablets and seized Ali by his head, pulling him toward him. [Ali] said, “O son of my mother, indeed the people oppressed me and were about to kill me, so let not the enemies rejoice over me and do not place me among the wrongdoing people.” (Qur’an 7:150)

Muhammed scolded, “O Ali! What prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following after me? How could you disobey my orders? Ali pleaded, “O son of my mother! Do not seize me by my beard or my head. I really feared that you would say, ‘You have caused division among the Children of Israel, and did not observe my word.’” (Qur’an 20:92-94)

Are we to believe that it only takes the Prophet Muhammed (saw) to be gone for 40 days as Ali, fearing for his life, allows the people to fall into blatant shirk?

Are we to believe there could be a scenario where the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) is so furious with Ali that he snatches him up by his beard?!

Are we to believe there is a scenario where the Blessed Prophet (saw) scolded Ali for disobeying his orders? Even to the point where Ali feared that the Blessed Prophet (saw) would say that he (Ali) caused division among the Muslims?


Keep in mind that Moses (as), like the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) would have been given knowledge by Allah (swt) that Aaron (as) was not, in any way shape or form, in dereliction of his duties. Yet Musa (as) snatched Aaron (as) up!

We do not believe these are things the Shi’i are willing to entertain regarding Ali.

The Moses Aaron comparison is also devastating to Shi’i claims.

Why? Because they do not have equal authority.

“When there comes to them some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Messenger, or to those charged with (ulī l-amri) authority among them, the proper investigators would have tested it for them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of Allah unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.” (Qur’an 4:83)

Aaron did not have the knowledge of the divine will that Moses had.

I really feared that you would say, ‘You have caused division among the Children of Israel, and did not observe my word.’

“And [recall] when Moses said to his people, “O my people, indeed you have wronged yourselves by your taking of the calf [for worship]. So repent to your Creator and kill yourselves [i.e., the guilty among you]. That is best for [all of] you in the sight of your Creator.” Then He accepted your repentance; indeed, He is the Accepting of Repentance, the Merciful.” (Qur’an 2:54)

This line: “I really feared that you would say, ‘You have caused division among the Children of Israel, and did not observe my word.” This absolutely does not refer to Ali ibn Abi Talib at all! This was a man who, instead of pursuing the killers of Uthman, wasted no time in collecting his army to go fight the people of Sham!


Translation of the above:

“This year of his caliphate, the Commander of the Faithful, Ali ibn Abi Talib, assumed leadership and appointed governors over the regions. He appointed Abdullah ibn Abbas over Yemen, Samurah ibn Jundab over Basra, Imarah ibn Shihab over Kufa, Qays ibn Sa’d ibn Ubadah over Egypt, and over Syria, Sahl ibn Hunayf in place of Muawiyah. Sahl marched until he reached Tabuk, when the close associates of Muawiyah met him and said, “We want to say…” It was said, “He knows.” They said, “We want to say…” It was said, “He knows.” They then said, “If Uthman sent you in his capacity [as the rightful caliph, then proceed], but if it was someone else, then go back.” They said, “Have you not heard what happened?” They replied, “Yes.” So he returned to Ali.”

“As for Qays ibn Sa’d, the people of Egypt differed concerning him. The majority pledged allegiance to him, but a group said, “We will not pledge allegiance until the killers of Uthman are brought to us.” The situation was similar in Basra. As for Imarah ibn Shihab, who was sent as governor to Kufa, Talhah ibn Khuwaylid prevented him from entering out of anger for Uthman. He returned to Ali and informed him. The strife intensified, the matter became grave, and opinions differed. Abu Musa wrote to Ali informing him of the obedience and pledge of allegiance of the people of Kufa, except for a few. Ali sent many letters to Muawiyah, but he did not receive any reply. This continued repeatedly until the third month after the murder of Uthman, in Safar.”

Then Muawiyah sent a scroll with a man who came to Ali. Ali asked, “What news do you bring?” The man replied, “I come to you from people who desire nothing but revenge, deeply aggrieved. I left seventy thousand elderly men gathered under the shirt of Uthman, which is displayed on the pulpit of Damascus.” Ali said, “O Allah, I declare myself innocent before You of the blood of Uthman.” Then the messenger of Muawiyah left Ali’s presence, and those Kharijites who had killed Uthman intended to kill him, but he barely escaped after much effort.”

Ali, may Allah be pleased with him, resolved to fight the people of Syria. He wrote to Qays ibn Sa’d in Egypt, urging the people to mobilize for fighting them, and to Abu Musa in Kufa. He also sent word to Uthman ibn Hunayf about this. He addressed the people, inciting them for that purpose. He was determined to prepare and depart from Medina, appointing Qutham ibn Abbas as his deputy over it. He was resolved to fight, with those who obeyed him, against those who disobeyed him, rebelled against his command, and did not pledge allegiance to him along with the people.”

His son, Al-Hasan ibn Ali, came to him and said, “O my father, abandon this, for it involves the shedding of Muslim blood and the occurrence of division among them.” But he did not accept that from him; rather, he insisted on fighting and organized the army. He gave the standard to Muhammed ibn al-Hanafiyyah, appointed Ibn Abbas to be in charge of important matters, and Umar ibn Abi Salama over the vanguard. It is also said he appointed Umar ibn Sufyan ibn Abd al-Assad over the vanguard. He appointed as the commander of his advance guard Abu Layla ibn Amr ibn al-Jarrah, the nephew of Abu Ubaydah. He appointed Qutham ibn Abbas as his deputy over Medina. Nothing remained except for him to depart from Medina heading towards Syria, until there came to him what diverted him from all of that, which we will mention.”

Source: Al-Bidāyah wa al-Nihāyah (البداية والنهاية) by Ibn Kathir Volume: around Vol. 7 or 8 (depending on the edition)

Prima Qur’an comments:

  1. Ali claimed that he is in Bara’ah with those who killed Uthman.
  2. He did not spend his time looking for these killers. Ali did not seem concerned at all about finding the killers of Uthman.
  3. Trying to find the killers of Uthman could have easily disuaded the tension or at the very least exposed Muawiyah as a hypocrite.
  4. Rather, Ali wasted no time in raising an army for the continued fighting, and killing and slaughter among the Muslims.
  5. Al Hasan ibn Ali was much wiser than his father (Ali), who was spoiling for a fight.

Look at the words of Al Hasan ibn Ali.

“O my father, abandon this, for it involves the shedding of Muslim blood and the occurrence of division among them.” But he (Ali) did not accept that from him.”

So try to apply the following statement of Aaron (as) to Ali : “I really feared that you would say, ‘You have caused division among the Children of Israel, and did not observe my word.” This absolutely does not apply to Ali.

In addition to that, we have the following:

Narrated by ‘Abdullah bin Abbas

“Ali bin Abu Talib came out of the house of Allah’s Apostle during his fatal illness. The people asked, “O Abu Hasan (i.e. Ali)! How is the health of Allah’s Apostle this morning?” ‘Ali replied, “He has recovered with the Grace of Allah.” ‘Abbas bin ‘Abdul Muttalib held him by the hand and said to him, “In three days you, by Allah, will be ruled (by somebody else), And by Allah, I feel that Allah’s Apostle will die from this ailment of his, for I know how the faces of the offspring of ‘Abdul Muttalib look at the time of their death. So let us go to Allah’s Apostle and ask him who will take over the Caliphate. If it is given to us we will know as to it, and if it is given to somebody else, we will inform him so that he may tell the new ruler to take care of us.” ‘Ali said, “By Allah, if we asked Allah’s Apostle for it (i.e. the Caliphate) and he denied it us, the people will never give it to us after that. And by Allah, I will not ask Allah’s Apostle for it.”

Source: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4447

  1. It is quite clear that Ibn Abbas was not aware of any Shi’i interpretations that Ali should be the one to lead the Muslims after the death of the Blessed Prophet (saw).
  2. Ali himself was not of the understanding that it was something that was his to take simply by being related to the Blessed Prophet (saw).
  3. This is another reason why it is best to make the Qur’an the pillar of our theology and faith, as the hadith themselves have narrations that the Shi’i themselves wince at.

Then there is this straight from Nahjul balagha itself. Straight from a Shi’i website:

“By Allah, I had no liking for the caliphate nor any interest in government, but you yourselves invited me to it and prepared me for it. When the caliphate came to me, I kept the Book of Allah in my view and all that Allah had put therein for us, and all that according to which He has commanded us to take decisions; and I followed it, and also acted on whatever the Prophet – may Allah bless him and his descendants – had laid down as his sunnah. In this matter I did not need your advice or the advice of anyone else, nor has there been any order of which I was ignorant so that I ought to have consulted you or my Muslim brethren. If it were so I would not have turned away from you or from others.”

Source: https://www.al-islam.org/nahjul-balagha-part-1-sermons/sermon-205-both-you-frown-over-small-matter

This sermon is said to have happened long after the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) died. This sermon itself proves that Ali never considered that he was already the appointed Khilafa of the Muslims.

He said, “When the Caliphate came to me.” This means he was not the Caliph at the time, he recognized it as such and nor did he want it. Someone who is divinely appointed by Allah (swt) to the Khilafa of the Muslims takes pride in it, claims it and upholds that as a great trust.

It shows Ali himself viewed the caliphate as something that came to him by people’s invitation after Uthman’s death, not as a pre-appointed right he was claiming.

Someone who recognizes they are not divinely appointed but that people have chosen who will lead them and then gets pushed into a position of leadership makes the kind of statements that Ali made above.

May Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

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