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The Ibadi Tafsir of Qur’an 49:9: Faith, Ingratitude, and the Theology of Reconciliation

“And if two parties from the believers should fight, then you [O men] should reconcile between them. Then if one of them transgresses against the other, then fight against the one that transgresses until it returns to the command of Allah. And if it returns, then reconcile between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.” (Qur’an 49:9)

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell. Therein they will stay indefinitely. Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)

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Introduction

Qur’an 49:9 stands as one of the most consequential verses in Islamic jurisprudence, politics, and theology concerning intra-community conflict.

The Ibadi tradition offers a uniquely rigorous and internally consistent reading of Qur’an 49:9, the verse commanding reconciliation. This article demonstrates how the Ibadi tafsir resolves tensions between the verse’s apparent designation of combatants as “believers” and its command to fight the transgressing party. The Ibadi position hinges on the distinction between kufr al-milla (disbelief of the religion) and kufr al-ni’ma (ingratitude of blessing), maintaining that the transgressor remains within the milla of Islam but enters a state of ingratitude subject to divine punishment. This framework is supported by the unique linguistic status of Qur’an 49:9, the Prophetic prohibition warning, and the strict rules of engagement established by the earliest Muslim community.

“And if two parties from the believers should fight, then make peace between them. But if one of them transgresses against the other, then fight against the one that transgresses until it returns to the command of Allah. Then if it returns, make peace between them with justice and be equitable. Indeed, Allah loves those who act equitably.” (Qur’an 49:9)

“min al-mu’minīn”–(مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ) The literal translation of “min al-mu’minīn” is “From the believers” or “Among the believers.”

This is very important to see how this verse of the Qur’an has been translated into English.

Look at the disparate translations of this verse into English here: https://tinyurl.com/5cv8der8

Look at some of the translations:

“Hence, if two groups of believers fall to fighting, make peace between them; but then, if one of the two [groups] goes on acting wrongfully towards the other, fight against the one that acts wrongfully until it reverts to God’s commandment; and if they revert, make peace between them with justice, and deal equitably [with them]: for verily, God loves those who act equitably.”-Muhammed Asad

“And if two parties of believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them. And if one party of them doeth wrong to the other, fight ye that which doeth wrong till it return unto the ordinance of Allah; then, if it return, make peace between them justly, and act equitably. Lo! Allah loveth the equitable.” -Marmaduke Pickthall.

This verse has generated extensive commentary across all Islamic schools of thought. However, the Ibadi tradition offers a uniquely rigorous and internally consistent reading that deserves careful attention. Drawing on the Ibadi tafsir Al-Abriz, the Taysir al-Tafsir of Atfayyish, the tafsir of al-Hawwari, the Prophetic tradition, and the broader Qur’anic framework, this article will demonstrate how the Ibadi position resolves apparent tensions in the text while maintaining a coherent theology of faith, sin, and community.

Asbāb al-Nuzūl: Reason or occasion for the revelation.

Ibn Abbas (or his report transmitted in Tanwīr al-Miqbās) (7th century / died 68 AH / 687 CE)

“(And if two parties of believers fall to fighting) this was revealed about the hypocrite ‘Abdullah Ibn Ubayy Ibn Salul and his host and ‘Abdullah Ibn Rawahah, a true believer, and his companions; these two parties fell to fighting after an exchange of words, and so Allah forbade them from fighting each other and commanded them to make up, saying, (And if two parties of believers fall to fighting then make peace between them) by referring to the Book of Allah. (And if one party of them) the party of ‘Abdullah Ibn Ubayy Ibn Salul (doeth wrong to) persists and transgresses against (the other) the party of ‘Abdullah Ibn Rawahah al-Ansari, and refuses to make peace by referring the matter to the Qur’an, (fight you that which does wrong till it return unto the ordinance of Allah) until it accepts to make peace by referring to the ordinances of the Qur’an; (then, if it return) if it accepts to make peace by referring the matter to the Book of Allah, (make peace between them justly, and act equitably) towards both parties. (Lo! Allah loveth the equitable) Allah loves those who judge justly by the Book of Allah, and act upon it.”

Source: (Abbas – Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/49.9)

Tafsir al-Wahidi (by Abu al-Hasan al-Wahidi) 11th century / died 468 AH / 1075 CE) 400 years after Ibn Abbas.

“(And if two parties of believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them…) [49:9]. Muhammed ibn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far al-Nahwi informed us> Muhammed ibn Ahmad ibn Sinan al-Muqri’> Ahmad ibn ‘Ali al-Mawsili> Ishaq ibn Abi Isra’il> Mu‘tamir ibn Sulayman> his father> Anas who related: “I said: ‘O Prophet of Allah, why do you not visit ‘Abd Allah ibn Ubayy?’ The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, decided to go and visit him. He mounted an ass and the Muslims walked with him. It happened that the ground was full of manure. So when the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, reached ‘Abd Allah ibn Ubayy, the latter said: ‘Keep away from me, the staunch of your ass is offending me’. A man from the Helpers said to him: ‘By Allah, the ass of the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, smells better than you’. One of the men of ‘Abd Allah ibn Ubayy got angry; then the men of both parties became angry because of what was said. They exchanged blows and hurled leafless palm leaves and sandals at each others. We heard that it is about them that (And if two parties of believers fall to fighting…) was revealed”. This was narrated by Bukhari from Musaddid and by Muslim from Muhammed ibn ‘Abd al-A‘la; both Musaddid and Muhammed ibn ‘Abd al-A‘la related it from al-Mu‘tamir.”

Source: (Wahidi – Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/49.9)

Tafsir Ibn Kathir (by Imad al-Din Ibn Kathir) (14th century / died 774 AH / 1373 CE) 300 years after al-Wahidi and 650 years after Ibn Abbas.


“(And if two parties among the believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them both.) Therefore, Allah calls both opposing groups among Muslims, believers, although they are fighting each other. Al-Bukhari and other scholars relied on this Hadith as evidence that committing a sin does not nullify faith, no matter how major the sin is. This creed contradicts the creed of the Khawarij sect and those who accepted their idea, such as the Mu`tazilah sect.“

” Said bin Jubayr said that the tribes of Aws and Khazraj once got into a scuffle using date tree branches and slippers. Allah revealed this honourable Ayah comanding them to make peace between them. As-Suddi said, A man from Al-Ansar, whose name was Imran, had a wife called Umm Zayd. She wanted to visit her family, but her husband prevented her from visiting them by locking her in an upper room. So, none of her family could visit or see her. She sent someone to her family. They came, took her down from the room and wanted to take her away. Her husband was absent at the time, so his family called on their people. Their cousins came to help prevent the wife from going with her family. A push and shove situation occurred that led to them fighting using slippers. This Ayah was then revealed in their case, and the Messenger of Allah sent someone to bring peace between them, and they both agreed to resort to the decision of Allah the Exalted.'”

Source: (Kathir – Ibn Al Kathir https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/49.9)

Prima Qur’an comments. Ibn Kathir immediately evokes the so called ‘Khawarij’ and Mu’tazilah’ in which he puports to represent their position.

He then pivots to the Aws and Khazraj getting into a scuffle. He also narrates a conflict between among the Ansar themselves.

The prominent Maliki jurist Qadi Abu Bakr ibn al-Arabi (d. 1148 CE) from his landmark legal exegesis, Ahkam al-Qur’an remarked the following:

“The first: It was narrated by Saʿīd ibn Jubayr from Ibn ʿAbbās that it concerned Aws and Khazraj. A man from them insulted another, so each group supported its clansman until fighting erupted between them. Then the Messenger of Allah (saw) came and reconciled them, and Allah revealed the verse commanding justice and fairness.”

“The second: It was narrated that the verse was revealed concerning a dispute between two groups of the Anṣār. They took the case to the Prophet (saw), who judged between them. But one side refused the judgment and became angry, which led to fighting. Then Allah revealed the verse: “And if two groups of the believers fight each other, then reconcile between them.”

“The third: Al-Suddī narrated that a man from the Anṣār was married to a woman, and they had a disagreement. The woman wanted to go to her family, but her husband refused. She gathered her people, and he gathered his people, and they fought one another. Then the Prophet (saw) reconciled them, and the verse was revealed concerning them.”

“The fourth: It was said that the verse was revealed about ʿAbdullāh ibn Ubayy ibn Salūl (the hypocrite leader) who quarreled with a Muslim. Each of them brought his group to support him until fighting almost broke out. Then the Prophet (saw) reconciled them, and the verse was revealed.”

الْمَسْأَلَةُ الثَّانِيَةُ: أَصَحُّ الرِّوَايَاتِ: الْأَخِيرَةُ، وَالْآيَةُ تَقْتَضِي جَمِيعَ مَا رُوِيَ لِعُمُومِهَا وَمَا لَمْ يُرْوَ، فَلَا يَصِحُّ تَخْصِيصُهَا بِبَعْضِ الْأَحْوَالِ دُونَ بَعْضٍ.

“Al-ʿArabī said: The most authentic of the narrations is the last one. “The correct opinion is that the verse is general, and it is not restricted to a particular cause of revelation. The Qur’anic verse remains general in meaning, even if it was revealed about a specific event. What is narrated about Aws, Khazraj, Ibn Ubayy, or the story of the husband and wife all of it fits the meaning, but the ruling of the verse applies universally to every case.”

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/1464/2036)

Prima Qur’an comments:

Examing the four cases.

The fourth case involves the hypocrite ʿAbdullāh ibn Ubayy ibn Salūl.

The second case involves one who refuses the very judgement of the Prophet (saw). Which makes you wonder how will you reconcile between those who won’t even accept the authority of the Prophet (saw). It is likely that ibn al-Arabi so the futility of that case from a matn perspective.

Ibn al-Arabi likely saw that the first case and the third case cancel each other out.

Why? Because if the verse was revealed for the first case it would be redundant to be revealed concerning the third case and if it was revealed concerning the third case it would be redunant concerning the first case.

The Ibadi scholars weigh in.

The eminent scholar Al-Qutb al-A’imma (r) said: 

(“And if two groups from the believers fight”) – They are called believers based on their apparent state known to us before the fighting. Or it means: ‘And if two groups from the believers’ – like calling a prepubescent child a ‘disobedient sinner’ (‘āṣin) based on his state before reaching puberty, even though their fathers have died.”

The eminent scholar Shaykh Al-Khalīlī (h) said:

“As for His saying, the Exalted, (“And if two groups from the believers fight”), it is possible to understand it based on considering the faith (īmān) of the two groups before the fighting. Just as one says: ‘The disbeliever believed,’ ‘The people repented,’ ‘The misguided one was guided,’ ‘The Muslim apostatized,’ and ‘The pious person sinned’ – this is said with regard to what they were upon, even though after his belief he is no longer a disbeliever. Similarly, after his repentance he is no longer a sinner, after his guidance he is no longer misguided, and whoever apostatizes from his Islam is no longer a Muslim. Likewise, the trader, after he has sinned, is not pious.”

“Similarly, the faith of the two groups: it is correct to consider it with regard to what they were upon before the fighting. However, the faith that prevents its ascription [being removed] from a person and a sinner is the faith upon which success and salvation in the Hereafter are contingent. This is just as Islam is used in contrast to disbelief (kufr), for conventionally, every monotheist is called a Muslim, even if he falls short in fulfilling the obligations of Islam, even though…”

Question: Does this observation by the respected scholars find evidence in the Qur’an?

Answer: Yes! by using Tafsīr al-Qur’ān bi’l-Qur’ān which is the method of explaining or interpreting the meanings of one verse of the Quran by using another verse from within the Quran itself.

(49:9) fa-in baghat iḥdāhumā ‘alā al-ukhrā — “if one of them oppresses the other”

Is there any verse outside of Qur’an 49:9 that suggest that this is the conduct of the righteous and those who fear Allah? Is there anywhere in the Qur’an where Allah uses this descriptor to describe the righteous and those who fear Allah?

The root b-gh-y is not used for ordinary sinning. It is used for transgression, oppression, rebellion — a specific and severe category. This specific category is never applied to believers or to the righteous anywhere in the Qur’an.

Form I verb baghā (بَغَىٰ) — 25 times

Every single Qur’anic usage of Form I in the active sense is negative. It means to transgress, oppress, rebel, or wrong someone.

Examples:

  • (2:213) baghyan baynahum — “out of jealousy among themselves”
  • (3:19) baghyan baynahum — “out of envy among themselves”
  • (7:33) wal-baghya bighayri al-haqq — “and oppression without right” (forbidden)
  • (10:23) yabghūna fi’l-ard bighayri al-haqq — “they rebel in the earth without right”
  • (28:76) fa-baghā ‘alayhim — “but he oppressed them” (Qarun)
  • (38:22) baghā ba’ḍunā ‘alā ba’ḍ — “one of us has wronged the other”
  • (42:27) la-baghaw fi’l-ard — “they would surely rebel in the earth”
  • (49:9) fa-in baghat iḥdāhumā ‘alā al-ukhrā — “if one of them oppresses the other”
  • (55:20) lā yabghiyāni — “they do not transgress” (the two seas)

Conclusion: Form I verb baghā is never used in the Qur’an to describe the righteous positively. It is always transgression, oppression, or rebellion. The only “neutral” usage is in the sense of “seeking” in a few places, but even then the context is not describing the righteous as such. Example: (3:83) afaghayra dīn Allāh yabghūna — “Do they seek other than the religion of Allah?” — which is a rebuke.

Noun baghy (بَغْي) — 11 times

Every single usage is negative. It means transgression, oppression, envy, or rebellion.

  • (2:90) baghyan — “grudging”
  • (2:213) baghyan baynahum — “out of jealousy among themselves”
  • (3:19) baghyan baynahum — “out of envy among themselves”
  • (6:146) bibaghyihim — “for their rebellion”
  • (7:33) wal-baghya — “and oppression” (forbidden)
  • (10:23) baghyukum — “your rebellion”
  • (10:90) baghyan wa ‘adwan — “in tyranny and enmity” (Pharaoh)
  • (16:90) wal-baghyi — “and oppression” (forbidden)
  • (42:14) baghyan baynahum — “out of rivalry”
  • (42:39) al-baghyu — “tyranny”
  • (45:17) baghyan baynahum — “out of envy”

Conclusion: The noun baghy is never used positively. It is always a blameworthy quality.

Noun baghiyy (بَغِيّ) — 2 times

Both usages refer to an unchaste woman — a negative term:

  • (19:20) wa mā kuntu baghiyyan — “I have not been unchaste” (Maryam’s defense)
  • (19:28) wa mā kānat ummuki baghiyyan — “nor was your mother unchaste”

Conclusion: Always negative.

Verbal noun bighā’ (بِغَاء) — 1 time

  • (24:33) wa lā tukrihū fatayātikum ‘alā al-bighā’ — “do not compel your slave girls to prostitution”

Conclusion: Always negative.

Active participle bāgh (بَاغ) — 3 times

All three occur in the same phrase:

  • (2:173) ghayra bāghin wa lā ‘ādin — “neither desiring [it] nor transgressing”
  • (6:145) same
  • (16:115) same

Conclusion: The participle bāgh here means “one who desires” or “one who transgresses” — in the context of eating forbidden food under necessity. It is not describing the righteous; it is describing the limits of a concession for the one in need. The righteous person is the one who does not desire the forbidden thing.

Source: https://tinyurl.com/ysxxw89n

Perhaps the most striking feature of the Sunni understanding of Qur’an 49:9 is that this is the only verse in the entire Qur’an where they can claim the apparent believers are described as bāghī (transgressors)!

The Sunni reading must work harder to explain why the Qur’an uses a term for believers in 49:9 that it never uses for believers anywhere else.

If the question is which reading is on firmer textual footing, the Ibadi reading has the stronger case. This is not because it is the majority position, but because it is the reading that accounts for the most textual data with the no unresolved tensions.

Where as we have seen using Tafsīr al-Qur’ān bi’l-Qur’ān the Sunni understanding doesn’t hold under scrutiny.

This misunderstanding not only clashes with the Qur’an but clashes with sound tranmission from the Blessed Prophet (saw).

As we have seen it clashes with the Qur’an. Such a descrption is never applied to believers or to the righteous anywhere in the Qur’an.

It also clashes with the following:

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell. Therein they will stay indefinitely. Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)

The (eternal punishment for intentional killing of a believer) creates a tension that the Sunni framework struggles to resolve without collapsing into Murji’ism.

This verse presents a serious problem for the Sunni reading:

If the bāghī remains a believer, and they intentionally kill another believer, then Qur’an 4:93 applies to them: eternal Hell.

But Sunni theology generally holds that a Muslim who commits a major sin does not face eternal Hell they face punishment, then eventually enter Paradise.

So either Qur’an 4:93 applies to the bāghī (and they face eternal punishment), or Qur’an 4:93 does not apply to the bāghī (which shouldn’t require an strenuous explanation).

Narrated Ibn `Umar:

I heard the Prophet (saw) saying, “Do not revert to disbelief (kuffaran) after me by striking (cutting) the necks of one another.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7077)

The Ibadi reading is that this confirms that intra-Muslim fighting is a form of kufr. In particular kufr al-ni’ma, the kufr that does not expel one from the milla.

The Ibadi reading has the advantage of taking the word kufr seriously while still maintaining that the fighters remain within the community. The Sunni reading must explain why the Prophet (saw) used the word kufr if he did not mean kufr in some sense. Look at the verse:

“Then if one of them transgresses against the other, then fight against the one that transgresses until it returns to the command of Allah.”

  1. The verse does not describe the two parties who did ijtihād and erred. Or had a “difference of opinion” — it uses the language of transgression.
  2. It cannot be imagined that Allah (swt) is asking believers to fight against those who are in conformity with Allah and his Messenger.
  3. This is proven by the fact that one faction has to return to the command of Allah. If they were upon the command of Allah they would not be fought.

The Verse of the Qur’an Does Not Call Both Parties Believers While They Fight.

Let us look at the actual Arabic:

وَإِن طَائِفَتَانِ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ اقْتَتَلُوا
Wa-in ṭā’ifatāni min al-mu’minīna iqtatalū

The structure is:

طَائِفَتَانِ (ṭā’ifatāni) — two factions

مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (min al-mu’minīna) — from among the believers

اقْتَتَلُوا (iqtatalū) — they fought

The description “from among the believers” qualifies the subject before the action. The verse does not say “two factions of believers fought.” It says “if two factions from among the believers fight.”

Grammatically and logically, the min al-mu’minīn is identifying who these factions are drawn from — the believing community. It is describing their origin, their prior status, their membership in the community.

It is not saying they are believers in the state of fighting.

So when the Qur’an says “two factions from among the believers fought,” it is saying:

They were believers before the fighting.

The one who commits (baghy) transgression is to be fought.

The description “believer” applies to what they were, not to what they are doing.


The verse continues:

فَإِن بَغَتْ إِحْدَاهُمَا عَلَى الْأُخْرَىٰ فَقَاتِلُوا الَّتِي تَبْغِي
Fa-in baghat iḥdāhumā ‘alā al-ukhrā fa-qātilū allatī tabghī
“But if one of them transgresses against the other, then fight against the one that transgresses.”

So the Qur’an:

Identifies them as from among the believers (prior state).

Describes one of them as transgressing (baghat).

Commands fighting the transgressing one — not both.

If both parties remained believers in the state of fighting, the verse would not single out one as the transgressor. The verse makes a moral distinction: one party is in the wrong. The other is the wronged party. The wronged party is not fought. The transgressing party is fought until it returns to Allah’s command.

This is why the Sunni framing of “two groups of believers who had a misunderstanding” is problematic. The verse does not describe a mutual misunderstanding. It describes one party transgressing against the other.

What they were: believers.

What one of them did: transgressed.

What the community must do: fight the transgressor until it returns.

The one who fights unjustly is the bāghī. The one who is fought against is the wronged believer.

So the question becomes: what is the status of the believer who transgresses?

This is where the Ibadi framework comes in:

They remain within the milla(the religion). They are not kuffār in the sense of kufr al-milla.

But they have entered kufr al-ni’ma. That is the ingratitude of blessing by transgressing against their fellow believers.

They are subject to fighting until they return, and to divine punishment if they do not.

This is a coherent, textually grounded framework. And it does not require reading the verse as describing a “big misunderstanding” between two parties who remain believers while fighting.

The Argument from A Fortiori Reasoning (Qiyās al-Awlawī)

“O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule other people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule other women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by offensive nicknames. Wretched (bi’sa) is the name of disobedience (l-fusūqu) after [one’s] faith. And whoever does not repent – then it is those who are the (l-ẓālimūna) wrongdoers.” (Qu’ran 49:11)

If ridicule — a word, a gesture, a nickname — is enough to earn the label fāsiq and ẓālim, then what about killing?

The Qur’anic reasoning is:

  1. Premise 1: Ridicule and insult are prohibited, and those who persist in them are called fāsiq and ẓālim (Qur’an 49:11).
  2. Premise 2: Killing a believer intentionally is a far graver offense . It is the destruction of a life, the breaking of the community, the ultimate transgression against a fellow Muslim.
  3. Conclusion: Therefore, the one who kills a believer is at least a fāsiq and a ẓālim and in fact, far worse.

Notice the sequence. The verse does not say:

  • “Ridiculing is a minor sin.”
  • “Insulting is a peccadillo.”
  • “Nicknames are a trivial matter.”

It says:

  • The one who does these things has been labeled with disobedience (fusūq).
  • The one who does not repent is among the wrongdoers (ẓālimūn).

These are Qur’anic categories of serious moral failure. They are not casual descriptors. They are the same categories used elsewhere in the Qur’an for grave offenses.

Now place this next to Qur’an 4:93:

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell. Therein they will stay indefinitely. Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)

The contrast is stark:

OffenseQur’anic Response
Ridicule, insult, nicknamesFusūq, ẓulm, bi’sa
Intentional killing of a believerEternal Hell, divine wrath, divine curse, tremendous punishment

If ridicule earns fusūq and ẓulm, then intentional killing which earns eternal Hell and divine curse cannot possibly leave the perpetrator in the same moral category as before.

Dear readers! What planet or universe does this make sense? Taking the life of a believer is a lesser offense than ridicule?!

This is precisely the point. The Sunni framework that says:

  • Ridicule → fāsiq, ẓālim
  • Intentional killing of other Muslims → are the actions of a Mu’min?

This creates a moral inversion. The lesser offense (ridicule) earns the label fāsiq and ẓālim. The greater offense (killing) supposedly leaves one a Mu’min in good standing. It is a matter of ijtihad?!

This is incoherent. And it is precisely why the Ibadi framework of kufr al-ni’ma is more consistent:

  • Ridicule → kufr al-ni’ma (ingratitude)
  • Intentional killing → kufr al-ni’ma (ingratitude), and far more severe

Both are within the milla outwardly, but both have entered kufr al-ni’ma. The difference is in the degree of the offense and the severity of the punishment.

The Qur’an does not say that the one who ridicules is a Mu’min in good standing. It says he is a fāsiq and a ẓālim unless he repents. How much more, then, the one who kills?

The Two Types of Kufr: Kufr al-Milla and Kufr al-Ni’ma

The Ibadi position hinges on a critical distinction between two categories of kufr (disbelief/ingratitude):

1. Kufr al-Milla (Disbelief of the Religion): This is outright rejection of Islam, placing one outside the community of believers entirely. This is the kufr of the polytheists and those who deny God’s existence or reject the Prophethood of Muhammed(saw).

2. Kufr al-Ni’ma (Disbelief/Ingratitude of Blessing): This applies to a Muslim who commits a major sin (kabīra) but still affirms the oneness of Allah (tawḥīd) and belongs to the milla of Islam. Such a person is a kāfir in the sense of being ungrateful for Allah’s blessings, but not a kāfir in the sense of being outside the faith.

This distinction is rooted in the Qur’an itself. In Surah Ibrahim (14:7), Allah declares:

“And [remember] when your Lord proclaimed, ‘If you are grateful (shakartum), I will surely increase you [in favor]; but if you are ungrateful (kafartum), indeed, My punishment is severe.'” (Qur’an 14:7)

The verse establishes a direct correlation between gratitude (shukr) and increase in favor, and between ingratitude (kufr) and severe punishment. The one who fights and kills fellow believers is acting in kufr al-ni’ma. They are ungrateful for the blessings of faith, brotherhood, and life itself.

Crucially, the Qur’an does not promise paradise to the ungrateful (kafartum) as a standalone category. Paradise is promised to the believers, the righteous, the Allah-conscious, the patient, and the repentant. In no place is it ever promised to the ungrateful (kafir) as a category. Therefore, the bāghī cannot claim the promise of paradise while persisting in their transgression.

The Qur’an explicitly warns:

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell. Therein they will stay indefinitely. Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)

This verse presents a serious theological problem: How can a believer who commits such a sin face eternal punishment? The Ibadi answer is that the intentional killer has entered a state of kufr al-ni’ma—a state of ingratitude so profound that they are subject to the severe punishment promised in Qur’an 14:7.

 Qur’an 2:112 and The Two Conditions

“Yes [on the contrary], whoever submits his face (wholeself/being) in Islam to Allah while being a doer of good will have his reward with his Lord. And no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.”

The verse establishes two conditions:

  1. أَسْلَمَ وَجْهَهُ لِلَّهِ (aslama wajhahu li’llāh) — submission of the face to Allah. This is the inward orientation: sincerity, devotion, turning toward Allah.
  2. وَهُوَ مُحْسِنٌ (wa-huwa muḥsin) — being a doer of good. This is the outward manifestation: actions of obedience, iḥsān in practice.

The reward is contingent on both. Neither alone is sufficient. This is a key Qur’anic principle: faith and works are inseparable in the Qur’anic vision of salvation.

How This Fits the Ibadi Understanding

The Ibadi framework of kufr al-ni’ma (ingratitude of blessing) and kufr al-milla (disbelief of religion) maps directly onto this verse:

The person who claims belief but has no outward actions of obedience has entered kufr al-ni’ma. They have not left the milla — they are still outwardly Muslim, still part of the community — but they are not fulfilling the condition of iḥsān that Qur’an 2:112 requires for reward and security.

This is precisely why the Ibadi tradition takes outward conformity seriously. It is not enough to say “I believe”. The Qur’an demands that belief be accompanied by iḥsān (doing good).

By not, at the very least, calling out the lack of outward conformity, it becomes very easy for hypocrites to move about undetected, although the inward hypocrisy can only be dealt with by Allah.

The Ibadi framework does not pretend to judge the inward. It judges the outward, because that is what the community has access to, and it leaves the inward to Allah. But precisely because it takes the outward seriously, it does not allow outward conformity to be ignored.

Every Mumin is a Muslim but not every Muslim is a Mumin.

“The bedouins say, ‘We have believed.’ Say, ‘You have not believed; but say [instead], “We have submitted,” for faith has not yet entered your hearts.'” (Qur’an 49:14)

This verse is directly adjacent to Qur’an 49:9–12. It is part of the same surah, the same discourse, and the same thematic unit. And it establishes the exact distinction this article is builds on:

TermMeaningWhat it describes
Islam (أَسْلَمْنَا)Submission, outward entry into the communityThe dhāhir — what is visible, legal, social
Īmān (آمَنَّا)Faith, inward conviction The inward (bāṭin) —what is in the heart or the ḥaqīqa (reality) — is only accessible to Allah

The bedouins claimed īmān (inward faith). Allah corrected them: You have not believed; say instead that you have submitted. The outward profession of Islam is real, but the inward faith has not yet entered their hearts.

The bedouins in 49:14 are Muslims (aslamnā). That is they have entered the milla. But they are not yet believers (mā āmannā). Meaning īmān has not entered their hearts. Their status is:

  • Outwardly: Muslim part of the community, subject to its laws and protections.
  • Inwardly: Not yet a mu’min faith has not entered the heart.
  • Their reality: Their reality is known to Allah alone.

The Prophetic Warning

The Ibadi reading of Qur’an 49:9 is strongly supported by the Prophetic tradition.

“Do not revert after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.”

The Arabic word used is kuffāran (كُفَّارًا). While some translations render this as “disbelievers,” the Ibadi understanding as reflected in our translation as “ungrateful ones” actually captures the essence of the warning. The Blessed Prophet (saw) was not saying that those who fight each other become actual disbelievers outside the fold of Islam. Rather, he was warning that fighting fellow Muslims is an act of extreme ingratitude (kufr al-ni’ma) that mimics the behavior of disbelievers.

Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (saw) said, “When (a person) an adulterer commits illegal sexual intercourse, then he is not a believer at the time he is doing it; and when somebody steals, then he is not a believer at the time he is stealing .”

Source: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6782

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (saw) said, “An adulterer, at the time he is committing illegal sexual intercourse is not a believer; and a person, at the time of drinking an alcoholic drink is not a believer; and a thief, at the time of stealing, is not a believer.” Ibn Shihab said: `Abdul Malik bin Abi Bakr bin `Abdur-Rahman bin Al- Harith bin Hisham told me that Abu Bakr used to narrate that narration to him on the authority of Abu Huraira. He used to add that Abu Bakr used to mention, besides the above cases, “And he who robs (takes illegally something by force) while the people are looking at him, is not a believer at the time he is robbing (taking).

Source: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5578

So when a person who is part of the milla of Islam is not described a believer at the moment they commit illegal sexual intercourse, steals, drinks, or robs then what is his status when he oppresses a fellow Muslim? Especially when this oppression leads to intentional killing?

The Ibadi commentary in Al-Abriz reinforces this point:

It is not valid to apply the name of ‘Believer’ to the one who commits major sins, as is apparent from the noble verse, because He described them with faith at the time of the fighting, before it.” (Al-Abriz, p. 315)

The Divine Method in Extinguishing the Fitnah of Fighting Between the Believers

“And if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two. But if one of them oppresses the other, then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the ordinance of Allah. And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. The believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers. And fear Allah that you may receive mercy.” (Qur’an 49:9-10) -pg 314 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

“And the point of connection between this passage and the previous passage is what was mentioned regarding the possibility of the people being afflicted with ignorance. This leads to the fire of discord and the disintegration of the bonds of brotherhood. And the Muslims, in the throes of confusion and regret, hasten with the necessary remedy to heal the wounds of division and conflict, and to extinguish the flames of hatred and aversion. And if “And if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two” — O leaders of the Muslim community — the sparks of conflict between two factions of the believers appear, leading to outbreaks of wars and bloody clashes, then hasten to mend the breach and gather the word.” -pg 314 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

” [This is] in light of what has been permitted to you of experience in the field of reform. The root [of the word] in the verb “should fight” (iqtatalū) is used in the sense of intending the occurrence. This is like His saying, the Most High: “O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer…” (5:6). [This is] because the command to reform is obligatory, and the nearest [course of action] when signs of enmity and verbal confrontations appear is that, because the matter is greater, blood has flowed and properties have been destroyed. And with this, there is a transition to the branch: “But if one of them oppresses the other.” And the meaning and the face [of it]: Al-Ta’ifah (the faction): the group distinguished from others by language, or history, or social specificity. And it is not valid to apply the name of “believer” to the one who commits major sins, as is apparent from the noble verse, because He described them with iman (faith) before their fighting, as became clear to you previously from His saying: “And if two factions among the believers should fight…” (49:9). If one of them does not submit to the other, [and] does not yield to the path of reconciliation, harmony, and agreement, it leads to arrogance and audacity in aggression against the other with force and weapons. [This is indicated by] His saying: “then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the ordinance of Allah” (49:9). So the leadership of the Muslim community aids the oppressed faction against the oppressive, transgressing faction until it submits to the command of Allah, and His command is what calls to it of responding to the call of reconciliation and justice, and refraining from injustice. “And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice” (49:9).” -pg 314-315 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

“If the transgressing faction desists from its aggression and stops its crimes, then make peace — O leadership of the Muslim community — between the two factions with the balance of justice, to reach a solution that satisfies the guardians of both parties. And it may be among the crucial matters that contribute to extinguishing the flames of discord: the absence of demanding compensation from the two parties for blood and wealth, and emphasis upon the removal of justice, for the position is one of caution regarding bias and harm, especially if the damages of the two factions are vastly different, and their losses are greatly disparate. “And act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly” (49:9) — meaning: return. And His saying “and act justly” is an emphasis upon the guardians of the matter to reaffirm the aforementioned testament of justice, because reform in matters of blood and destruction requires much study, focus, and deliberation, so that every possessor of a right is given their right. And the command to establish justice in the verse is general, encompassing all aspects of life and its multiple issues, whether at the level of individuals or groups. And the divine love for His servant who is just is not a sentimental emotion or a tender longing; rather, His love is His aid, support, and divine confirmation. Then the sentence “The believers are but brothers” (49:10) is in the position of explaining the previous [command] to make peace in His saying: “And if two factions among the believers should fight… then make settlement between them in justice” (49:9).” -pg 315 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

“The meaning: those gathered under the shade of faith are nothing but brothers, and He expressed the relationship of brotherhood without [mentioning] other human relationships like friendship, fatherhood, and sonship, because it is the most truthful and strongest, and in it The majority remain firm, and it is appropriate to draw attention in this noble verse to the fact that iman (faith) is a description of all Muslims from the various Islamic schools of thought, as long as one of them does not deny something known of the religion by necessity (which is categorical).” -pg 315-316 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

“Therefore, the people of a school of thought do not have the right to exclude another school of thought from that Qur’anic description (iman) due to a doctrinal branch in which it differs, or due to a baseless historical accusation, so that it becomes easy for them to impose war upon them. For they have been addressed by the explicit text of the Noble Qur’an: “The believers are but brothers” (49:10). They said: “Those are not believers.” But the truth is that they negated iman from them due to their school of thought, not according to the Qur’anic standard of the advisor: “So make settlement between your brothers” (49:10). The transition to reconciliation is based on the bond of faith, to emphasize what the word “only” (innamā) indicated, and to increase the affirmation of the two reconciliations mentioned previously: “So make settlement between them” (49:9) and “then make settlement between them in justice” (49:9). And the observation here is that He did not say: “So make settlement between the two factions,” but rather He shifted to the new description, which is established by His saying: “The believers are but brothers” (49:10). “And fear Allah that you may receive mercy” (49:10) is a follow-up to the divine obligation (the command and the prohibition) with the command of piety, to indicate the necessity of observing the required caution and not taking the matter lightly. And the meaning: And fear the punishment of your Lord by making immediate reconciliation between the believing brothers who have been separated, and [fear] the one who strives for reconciliation [regarding] the consequences of mercy in this world and the Hereafter.” -pg 316 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

The Necessary Etiquettes for Preserving Islamic Brotherhood

“O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one’s] faith. And whoever does not repent — then it is those who are the wrongdoers. O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.” (Qur’an 49:11-12)” -pg 316 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

“After affirming the meaning of the bond of faith in this passage, it calls for what strengthens it, establishes it, and raises it to a new level, by encouraging individuals to good companionship. This is done by adopting a set of ethics and etiquettes that a person may be ignorant of or belittle, but which are among the foundations of building a Muslim society. Indeed, laxity in them undermines the unity of the Islamic brotherhood and threatens its pillars with collapse. The opening of the call with “O you who believe” (49:11) -pg 316 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz

Source: (pgs. 314-316 Al-Ibriz fi Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Aziz – Pure Gold in the Interpretation of the Noble Qur’an – First Edition 2019 CE 1440 AH -The fourth Volume/Part 4 )

This is an Ibadi tafsir published under the supervision of the Office of Fatwa in the Sultanate of Oman. It is a contemporary, simplified commentary on the Qur’an produced by a committee of scholars.

Authored by a select group of professors/scholars. This was done under the supervison and scholarly review of Ibrahim Muhammed Fadil bin Salman al-Sawafi.

Rules of Engagement

The passage from Atfayyish’s Taysir al-Tafsir provides the historical context for the revelation of Qur’an 49:9. It recounts a specific incident involving ‘Abdullah ibn Ubayy ibn Salul, the leader of the hypocrites (munafiqun) in Medina:

“It is mentioned in the story of Badr: Usama ibn Zayd was riding behind him [the Prophet], and on the donkey was Qutba ibn Abi Salul before he embraced Islam. Al-Khazraj passed by a gathering of the Jews, and they had idols and a Muslim with them. When the gathering was covered by the braying of the donkey, ‘Abdullah ibn Ubayy said: ‘Do not frighten us with your donkey.’ The Messenger of Allah (saw) stopped, descended, recited the Qur’an, and called them to Allah. ‘Abdullah said: ‘O man, there is nothing better than what you say, if it were true. So do not harm us in our gatherings.’ So the Messenger of Allah (saw) returned to his mount. Then ‘Abdullah ibn Rawaha said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, he is harming us in our gathering, so we are the polytheists…’ And the Jews and the Muslims almost fought. The Prophet (saw) continued to reconcile them until they were quiet, then he rode his mount. Then the verse was revealed.” Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 436)

This historical context confirms that the verse 49:9 was revealed to address civil strife (fitnah) within the Muslim community. The Prophet’s own action—reconciling rather than fighting—demonstrates the priority of peace.

The passage also cites a narration from Al-Hasan:

“One of them was a hypocrite (munafiq) supported by his people, and the other was a believer (mu’min) supported by the Muslims, so they fought. Then it was revealed.”

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 436)

The Rules of Engagement (Fiqh al-Baghy)

The early Muslim community established strict rules of engagement for fighting the transgressing believers. Ibn Mas’ud ruled:

“The wounded among them is not to be finished off, the captive among them is not to be killed, the fugitive among them is not to be pursued, and no spoils are to be divided regarding them.”

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 436)

These rules prove beyond a doubt that the bāghī remains a Muslim. You do not take spoils from Muslims, nor do you execute Muslim captives. The goal is to restore order, not to exterminate the transgressors.

And a caller announced on the Day of the Camel:

“Do not pursue a fugitive, do not finish off a wounded person, and do not kill a captive.”

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 436)

When a captive was brought to Ali on the Day of Siffin, he said:

“I will not kill you, for I fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.” Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 436)

This demonstrates the extreme caution the early Muslims exercised in shedding the blood of fellow believers.


The Sequence of Commands: Reconciliation, Fighting, and Justice

The Taysir al-Tafsir of Atfayyish provides a detailed legal analysis of the sequence of commands in Qur’an 49:9:

{“But if one of them transgresses against the other”} — after the request for reconciliation, and the refusal is merely [an act of] defiance. It has not yet been dealt with, so it necessitates {“then fight against the one that transgresses until it returns to the command of Allah”}.

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 433)

Atfayyish highlights a critical detail in the verse’s structure. The command to “make peace” (fa-aṣliḥū) appears twice:

  • First: “If two parties fight, make peace between them.” (General reconciliation)
  • Second: “Then if it returns, make peace between them with justice.” (Post-fighting reconciliation)

He explains that the first reconciliation is directed at both parties. But if one party transgresses (baghat), the second command to reconcile is directed specifically at the transgressor—they are the ones who must be brought back to obedience first, before peace can be established.

The Al-Abriz commentary adds:

“If one of them transgresses against the other, then fight against the one that transgresses until it returns to the command of Allah.” The purpose of fighting is not to exterminate the transgressors but to bring them back to obedience. The commentary notes that the verb qātilū (fight) is used in the sense of willing the occurrence, similar to the command to establish prayer. The goal is correction, not destruction. (Al-Abriz, p. 315)

The Taysir al-Tafsir also confirms the linguistic point we discussed earlier:

{“Until it returns” (tafi’a)} — it is said that the meaning is: until it returns to the command of Allah, which is His ruling. [The word] tafi’a (returns) is used exclusively for returning to obedience after disobedience.

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 434)

This is a crucial theological point. The bāghī is not being called to “convert” to Islam (as a disbeliever would be). They are being called to return to obedience (ṭā’ah) after a state of disobedience (ma’ṣiyah). This confirms that they are already Muslims; they have simply fallen into kufr al-ni’ma.

“Until it returns” (tafi’a)}

Justice and Equity: The Goal of Reconciliation

The Taysir al-Tafsir emphasizes that reconciliation must be done “with justice” (bil-ʿadl). Why? Because the position is one of “suspicion of bias” (maẓinnat al-ḥayf). After blood has been shed, there is a natural tendency for one party to seek revenge or for the mediator to favor one side. The Qur’an commands absolute equity to prevent further injustice:

{“Then make peace between them with justice”} — the command [here] includes the prevention of wealth, and the blood-money for the killed and the wounded, and the corruption in the body. And the expression “with reconciliation” is because it may not lead to the restoration of every right to its owner, even if the reconciliation is [meant to be] clear. It is permissible for reconciliation to remove the corruption, even if it does not perfectly distinguish every right to its owner, if there is a fear of the continuation of the dissension.

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 434)

Atfayyish outlines the practical steps of reconciliation:

  • Prevention of wealth (badal min al-amwāl): The transgressor must compensate for destroyed property.
  • Blood-money (diyāt): Compensation for the killed and wounded.
  • Corruption in the body (al-fasād fī al-badan): Physical injuries must be accounted for.

This confirms that the bāghī is legally liable for their actions — proof that they are still a Muslim. You do not pay blood-money to a disbeliever’s family in the same way; you take their wealth as spoils.

The Al-Abriz commentary adds:

“This is a confirmation of the aforementioned instruction of justice, because reform in matters of blood and destruction requires much study, focus, and deliberation, so that every person with a right is given his right.” Sources: (Al-Abriz, p. 315) & (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 438)

The verse concludes with the statement that “Allah loves those who act equitably” (al-muqsiṭīn). This divine love is not a sentimental emotion but a promise of victory, success, and support for those who establish justice.

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 434)

The Brotherhood of Faith

Qur’an 49:10 immediately follows the verse on fighting:

“The believers are but brothers, so make peace between your brothers and fear Allah that you may receive mercy.” (Qur’an 49:10)

“Those gathered under the shade of faith are nothing but brothers, and the brotherhood relationship is without [the need for] other human relationships like friendship, fatherhood, and others, because it is the most truthful, strongest, and most powerful.” (Al-Abriz, p. 316)

This brotherhood is the basis for the command to reconcile. If the fighters were outside the milla of Islam, there would be no brotherhood to preserve. But because they are outwardly Muslims— guilty of kufr al-ni’ma — the doors to repentance and reconciliation must remain open so as to restore peace and unity.

The Taysir al-Tafsir notes that the sentence “The believers are but brothers” is in the position of explaining the previous instruction for reconciliation:

“And the meaning: Those gathered under the shade of faith are nothing but brothers, and the brotherhood relationship is without [the need for] other human relationships like friendship, fatherhood, and others, because it is the most truthful, strongest, and most powerful.”

Source: (Taysir al-Tafsir, Atfayyish, p. 438)

Source material: (Taysir al-Tafsir li’l-Qur’an al-Karim, Qutb al-A’imma Muhammed ibn Yusuf Atfayyish)

The Strength of the Ibadi Position

The Ibadi tafsir of Qur’an 49:9 offers a theologically rigorous and textually grounded reading that resolves several apparent tensions:

PrincipleIbadi PositionEvidence
Status of the BāghīBeliever in milla, kāfir in ni’ma (ungrateful).Qur’an 49:9 (nowhere in the Qur’an is bāghī for believers); Qur’an 14:7 (kafartum = severe punishment); Hadith Bukhari 7077 (“Do not revert as kuffāran“).
Goal of FightingTo restore obedience and justice, not to exterminate.Qur’an 49:9 (“until it returns to the command of Allah”); Taysir al-Tafsir (tafi’a = return to obedience after disobedience).
Rules of EngagementNo killing captives, no spoils, no pursuit of fugitives.Ibn Mas’ud’s ruling in Taysir al-Tafsir, p. 436; the caller on the Day of the Camel; Ali’s statement “I will not kill you, for I fear Allah.”
ResponsibilityThe community leaders (ahl al-amr) must reconcile.Qur’an 49:9 (“make peace between them”); Al-Abriz (leaders of the Muslim community).
PurposeEliminate rancor and hatred, establish justice.Taysir al-Tafsir (purpose of the verse is the elimination of rancor and hatred); Qur’an 49:10 (brotherhood).
Nature of the DutySupporting the oppressed against the transgressor is a jihad.Taysir al-Tafsir (a group of our people said: assistance of the oppressed is a jihad).

Conclusion

The Ibadi tafsir of Qur’an 49:9 offers a balanced theology that upholds the sanctity of faith while recognizing the gravity of sin.

The Ibadi position, is not one of extremism or excessive leniency. It is a rigorous, textually grounded, and spiritually profound reading of the Qur’anic text. It demonstrates that the Muslim community is called to be a community of justice, reconciliation, and mercy even in the midst of its most painful internal conflicts. It provides a framework for addressing intra-community conflict that neither demonizes the transgressor nor ignores their wrongdoing. It serves as a powerful reminder that faith and sin are not mutually exclusive—but the consequences of sin are severe, and the path to reconciliation requires justice, equity, and a steadfast commitment to the bonds of brotherhood.

  1. The root b-gh-y is never used for believers elsewhere in the Qur’an.
  2. The min al-mu’minīn describes prior state, not the state of fighting.
  3. The hadith uses kufr language for intra-Muslim fighting.
  4. Qur’an 4:93 creates a tension that the Ibadi framework resolves.

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Nouman Ali Khan is jealous of Sohaib Saeed’ Ibadi tafsir of Shaykh Ahmad Al-Khalili

“Cooperate with one another in goodness and righteousness.” (Qur’an 5:2)

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Dr. Soahib Saeed is speaking about his love for tafsir with Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan. You can watch this joyful interaction here. May Allah continue to bless and guide them both.

Nouman Ali Khan makes an excellent point @19:45

“People come into Islam by an investigative process and the moment they come into Islam you should say stop investigating, stop thinking. It’s counter-intuitive.”

They continue until this lighthearted exchange.

@19:52 Sohaib Saeed says: “So, speaking of different groups, I was with you when I got this can you identify where and when?”

Sohaib Saeed @20:22 “This is the Mufti of, ah there we are.”

Nouman Ali Khan @20:28 “Oh Wow!

Sohaib Saeed @20:30 “Did I not tell you did you not get a copy?

Nouman Ali Khan @20:33 “No, I didn’t get a copy.”

Sohaib Saeed @20:34 “Well, I was the one who was going to read it, so let’s be honest here.”

Nouman Ali Khan @20:37, “I hate you.”

@20:51 “And this is the Mufti of Oman.”

@21:10 “These people belong to the Ibadi school.”

Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan is very beloved in Oman.

He attending a Qur’an course while in Oman that was led by – Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani (h). He is based in Algeria.

He speaks about his experience in Oman during a retreat with Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani (h).

  1. No cellphone. If an emergency someone will contact you via the details you have given the administration.
  2. You can only mention your name and where you are from. You cannot mention anything else about yourself.

Not your marital status, your educational background, your status in society or your job.

You are there for one purpose and one only. To focus on Allah’s revelation.

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The Non-Crucifixion Verse by Dr. Louay Fatoohi: A response

“And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.”  (Qur’an 4:157)

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In today’s entry on Prima-Qur’an we will be going through this paper by Dr. Louay Fatoohi and sharing some thoughts on what he has written.

Those who are not aware the following is a biography of Dr. Louay Fatoohi.

The above is also his website. If you have not read the following book, we would highly recommend it.

We gave our review of the book here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1FCI7QXBCG2SJ/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=9670526027

So now to the topic at hand: The Non-Crucifixion Verse: A Historical, Contextual, and Linguistic Analysis by Louay Fatoohi.

We read from his article:

“In the Qur’an, though, there is little interest in how and when false beliefs appeared, what their historical development was, or whether they were traceable to oral or written tradition. When certain beliefs are rejected in the Qur’an, this comes in the form of asserting that these were not communicated by God through prophets but distortions of the revelations and/or total fabrications by people.” -Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: We would agree that the Qur’an is not “speaking to the wall.” It is certainly addressing claims. In this case, we would both agree with claims made by Jews.

“It sounds unrealistic and farfetched to think that if an average Jew at the time was asked why they thought that the Christian Messiah was false, they would have pointed to one of those few passages in a polemical book that they probably had never read any part of!” -Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: Again we agree. Though it seems rather obvious that the Qur’an 4:157 at least addresses some claims made by some Jews as to a possibility of why they would reject Jesus as the Messiah.

“Also, if 4:157 is to be linked to the known claim that the Jews killed Jesus, then the logical source of choice should be the Gospel narratives, not a passing and vague reference in the Talmud.”-Dr. Louay Fatoohi.

Prima Qur’an: Yeah, so at this point we are glad that Dr. Fatoohi has made his statement conditional. “If 4:157 is to be linked.” Because it begs the question: Why would the Gospel be a logical source of evidence for Jews? Dr. Fatoohi doesn’t quite flesh that out for us.

“Had the Qur’an engaged with the Talmud, it would have probably attacked it and accused the Jews of creating a book that was not revealed by God.” -Louay Fatoohi


Prima Qur’an:
Much like the hadith, it is considered a second source of revelation for Muslims. Perhaps Dr. Fatoohi had not considered that the Talmud acts in much the same way. The Rabbis believe their teachings go back in direct transmission to an oral Torah received by Moses (as).

There is also this verse where Allah (swt) could have plainly stated the word Torah. The Torah is never used in a disparaging way in the Qur’an.

“How terrible it is to those who write the Book with their hands and then say, “This is from Allah,” to sell it for a little money. How terrible it is for them for what their hands have written, and how terrible for them what they have earned.” And they say, “The fire will most certainly not touch us for more than a limited number of days.” Say [unto them]: “Have you received a promise from Allah- for Allah never breaks His promise – or do you attribute to Allah something which you cannot know?” (Qur’an 2:79-80)

The mishna states:

Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/Mishnah_Eduyot.2.10?lang=bi)

Prima Qur’an:We want to re-emphasize that we are in complete agreement with Dr. Fatoohi’s statement here:

“In the Qur’an, though, there is little interest in how and when false beliefs appeared, what their historical development was, or whether they were traceable to oral or written tradition. When certain beliefs are rejected in the Qur’an, this comes in the form of asserting that these were not communicated by God through prophets but distortions of the revelations and/or total fabrications by people.” -Louay Fatoohi.

Prima Qur’an: So coming to the verse in question under the section titled: The Non-Crucifixion Verse in Focus, Dr. Louay Fatoohi states:

“In this section, I aim to show that both the language and context of 4:157 repeatedly and unambiguously indicate that this verse can only be a denial of both the killing and the crucifixion of Jesus. This is what underpins the consensus of Muslim exegetes in their understanding of this verse. Conversely, rejecting this ubiquitous interpretation is driven by a priori views and convictions, which I have already quickly reviewed, that are extraneous to the Qur’anic text.” – Louay Fatoohi

Prima-Qur’an:We are going to strongly suggest that this is what Dr. Louay Fatoohi and early Muslim exegetes did. In fact, quoting Dr. Louay Fatoohi:

“In his historical tome Tārīkh al-umam wal-mulūk, al-Ṭabarī quotes Wahb Ibn Munabbih (d. 114/732) on the crucifixion. The latter is known for introducing Jewish and Christian narratives into Islamic tradition.” – Louay Fatoohi

Prima-Qur’an: Dr. Louay Fatoohi then beautifully demonstrates that the Qur’an 4:157 when taken into context is addressed to Jews.

“More specifically, we will focus on the four verses leading to 4:157 and the verse that follows it, as they provide immediate contextual information that is useful for avoiding any misunderstanding of 4:157. We will start with verse 4:153 as it commences a new context in which the Jews, and later Jesus, are the main subject.”-Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: So this is where our frustration with Dr. Fatoohi and the popular view on these verses comes in. Again, no blame on Dr Fatoohi because he seems to be following those early Muslim commentators who tried to fill in the void by relying upon extraneous material.

Point 1. When reading the verses in context. Where is there any mention of Romans?

Allah (swt) is not unfamiliar with the Romans.

“The Romans (l-rūmu) have been defeated.” (Qur’an 30:2)

There is no text in the Qur’an that connects Romans (l-rumu) with an act known as salabu.

Point 2. There is no text in the Qur’an that connects Christians (nasara) with an act known as (ṣalabū)

Point 3. Because Allah (swt) is addressing Jews, salabu cannot be a reference to a cross or a crucifixion! Why? Because Jews simply do not crucify people. Dr. Louay Fatoohi, or anyone under the sun, has given us a shred of evidence that they do!

How could we explain this away if we were a Muslim apologist? Aha! This particular group of Jews were already rebellious, so they crucified him in violation of their laws! Then we thought about it some more and said that doesn’t make any sense.

Think about it. Allah (swt) is addressing claims made by Jews against Jesus (as). Among their boast is a claim tantamount to saying: “We did something to Jesus that is not prescribed by Jewish law!”

It is among the most bizarre claims we have ever come across.

In fact, as Dr. Fatoohi quoted John of Damascus, who rightly critiques this view.

“A much more detailed early Christian account of the Muslim belief about the crucifixion comes from the monk John of Damascus, around a century after Muḥammed’s time. Having accused the Prophet of authoring the Qur’an by plagiarizing the Old and New Testaments with help from an unnamed Arian monk, he goes on to say the following: And he says that the Jews wanted to crucify Him in violation of the Law, and that they seized His shadow and crucified this. But the Christ Himself was not crucified, he says, nor did He die, for God out of His love for Him took Him to Himself into heaven.” -Louay Fatoohi

Dear readers, this error is so serious that this one issue would be enough to make anyone reconsider their Islam! How could Allah (swt) not be aware of Jewish methods of execution?! 

We have two options.

1. Imputing ignorance to Allah (swt) concerning Jewish methods of execution. 

2. Muslim exegets being mistaken by relying upon extraneous material and imposing meaning upon the plain text of the Qur’an.

It is clear that the first option is not an option for the believing Muslim.   Besides, is there any proof that these early Muslim exegetes were well versed in the laws of the Jews?

Ironically, the verse that Dr. Fatoohi calls ‘The Non-Crucifixion Verse’ actually is a crucifixion verse, not just the crucifixion of Jesus.

Point 4. Dr. Fatoohi seems comfortable to translate (ṣalabū) as crucifixion!

Though Dr. Fatoohi has stated:

“Finally, I should add a note about the Arabic word root ṣ-l-b, which is ubiquitously translated as “crucify.” This word appears in the Qur’an in a verbal form six times (al-Nisāʾ 4:157; al-Maʾida 5:33; al-Aʿrāf 7:124; Yūsuf 12:41; Ṭāhā 20:71; al-Shuʿarāʾ 26:49). In one instance, Pharaoh makes this threat to the magicians who accepted Moses’ claim to being God’s messenger.” -Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: This is frustrating because usually wefind Dr. Fatoohi to be circumspect but he did the exact same thing that Todd Lawson did. Which is to ignore an analysis of the use of the word with the text of the Qur’an. Dr. Fatoohi also left out that this root word s-l-b is used twice as a noun form. Something Lawson at least did not leave out. Such a crucial word is treated by Professor Todd Lawson and Dr. Fatoohi as nothing more than an afterthought.

““It occurs in the Qur’an eight times (4:157; 12:41; 7:124; 20:71; 26:49; 5:33; 86:7;4:23). Six of these are as a verb with the accepted meaning of ‘to crucify’. The others are as a noun meaning ‘back’ or ‘loins’ (86:7; 4:23). ”

Source: (pg 31 The Crucifixion and the Qur’an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought)

“This use may indicate that ṣ-l-b means some kind of execution by suspension.“-Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: Dr. Fatoohi goes into a discussion about some debate over the form of Jesus’ crucifixion.

“There is some debate about how Jesus was crucified, whether he was nailed to a cross, and what shape it had, or was suspended until he died.”-Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: Actually, this need not be a mystery for us at all. As Dr. Fatoohi has pointed out in the text of Qur’an 4:153-157 the whole focus is on the Jews. So why the curious fixation with the Romans?

Let us see what Jewish sources of punishment there are:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/capital-punishment (no mention of crucifixion at all)

Source: https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9985

Source: https://www.sefaria.org/Deuteronomy.21.22?lang=bi&aliyot=0

Notice that in the above text the culprit is killed first, and then they are impaled on a stake.

Notice that when Dr. Fatoohi dismisses the swoon theory, he states:

“Any claim that Jesus suffered a non-fatal crucifixion is also dismissed. The verse unambiguously states that Jesus was not killed or even non-fatally crucified.” -Louay Fatoohi

Prima-Qur’an: There is a double denial. They did not kill him nor did they (ṣalabūhu) him. Which means he was not even impaled. (If we are being consistent). They didn’t kill him (which covers every type of death under the sun) nor did they impale him—which would be a post-mortem suspension. Seems quite consistent with what we are seeing from Jewish law.

Or as Dr. Fatoohi states: “not crucified” if we have some strange fixation on the Romans.

So, since Dr. Fatoohi believes the Qur’an is denying that Jesus was even on the cross, then it would be worth asking Dr. Fatoohi. The following: “Do you believe whoever was “crucified” was this crucifixion post-mortem (occurring after death) or an ante mortem (occurring before death)?

After all, Dr. Fatoohi does not seem certain when he says:

“This use may indicate that ṣ-l-b means some kind of execution by suspension.”-Louay Fatoohi.

Prima-Qur’an: This would seem to argue that he is on board with the idea of ante mortem crucifixion. However, I am in agreement with Dr. Fatoohi when he states:

“I would argue that such disregard for the basics of Arabic would make the Qur’an unintelligible.” -Louay Fatoohi.

Prima Qur’an: However, such obfuscation is wholly unnecessary, if we allow the context of the Qur’an to speak, and it is clear that Jews practice post-mortem suspension.

“By the time of the Qur’an, the classical interpretation of the crucifixion of Jesus using a T-shaped cross or a variation of it was already long-established. So, the crucifixion that is rejected in 4:157 seems to be the commonly accepted image of the execution of Jesus.”-Louay Fatoohi


Prima-Qur’an: commonly accepted image according to whom? Since Jews are being addressed, why not reference what (salabu) would look like to them? Again, why the fixation with the Romans and the Christians when there has already been an admission that the immediate text and the context is a response to Jews?

Remember the fixation with Christian beliefs in the Qur’an, according to Dr. Fatoohi, is:

“The human nature of Jesus is repeatedly stressed in the Qur’an and his divinity is rejected in unambiguous terms.”-Louay Fatoohi

Prima-Qur’an: Agreed! Obviously, there is a different agenda when dealing with Christian objections to Islam. If becoming a Muslim meant that a Jew had to accept Jesus as Messiah, then Allah (swt) would have a different agenda when dealing with their objections.

“But we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles.” (1 Corinthians 1:23)

“These scholars suggest that the majority consensus is based on a misunderstanding of the Qur’an, which Muslims have failed to correct for fourteen centuries.” -Louay Fatoohi


Prima-Qur’an: Well, actually, these 1400 years of scholarship is really based upon copy and paste now, isn’t it? To pretend that every Muslim exegete independently researched every single verse of the Qur’an is just simply presumptuous. What we have is a majoritarian belief based upon individuals incorporating extraneous material from oral traditions without connected chains of narrations going back to the source that contain conflicting accounts.

We are also surprised by Dr. Louay’s appeal to the consensus of scholars when he himself does not believe in the return of Christ Jesus. This is certainly the position of the consensus of scholars. So we can take Dr. Louay’s appeal to consensus as not being serious.

We mean on what consistent basis does Dr. Louay Fatoohi dismiss the second coming of Jesus (as) which is mentioned in quite a number of hadith that do have connected chains and yet expect that we should not dismiss outright beliefs based upon individuals incorporating extraneous material from oral traditions without connected chains of narrations going back to the source that contain conflicting accounts?


None of what has been shared is from the canonical gospels. Would have been great if Dr. Fatoohi would have shared with us an exact quote from the tafsir literature of the tale of substitution. Because it sure the heck would have been very interesting reading a word-for-word detailed account of how the Jews (not the Romans) crucified stealth Jesus. Or about how the Jews killed and then crucified stealth Jesus.

Perhaps in a future article Dr. Fatoohi may give us a detailed quote of these narratives.

However, one central theme stands out. Someone was made to appear to look like Jesus.

This seems to be the understanding of: was made to appear to them so/walākin shubbiha lahum 

Note the following:

“Third, the denial of the crucifixion in 4:157 is followed in 4:158 by a second action that is explicitly attributed to God, which is raising Jesus.”-Louay Fatoohi

Prima-Qur’an: Yet, this was made to appear to them so/walākin shubbiha lahum  is not an action attributed to Allah.

Another example is the following:

“And the answer of Ibrahim’s people was not but that they said, “Kill him or burn him,” but Allah saved him (fa-anjaynāhu) from the fire. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe.” (Qur’an 29: 24)


Why don’t we see that language, ‘Allah saved him (fa-anjaynāhu) from ‘salabu’ ?

This much is clear when The Ashari in aqidah and Shafi’i in Fiqh, Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, who was not satisfied with the substitution theory, was absolutely merciless in his take-down of this concept when he pins:

“This opens the door of sophistry, So that if we saw Zayd it would be possible that it was not really Zayd but that the likeness of Zayd had been cast upon another. This would imply the nullification of social contracts such as marriage and ownership. Also it would lead to the impugning of the principle of tawatur, bringing into serious doubt all transmitted historical knowledge. This principle should be upheld as long as it is based on perceived phenomena (al-mahsusat). Such confusion about perceived phenomena would threaten the foundations of all religious laws (shar-iya). Neither is it permissible to argue for such transference of identity by appealing to the tradition that allows for miracles during the time of prophecy. Such a provision would bring into question the identity of the prophets themselves, which in turn would call into question the probity of the sources of religious knowledge.”

Source: Fakhr al-Din al-Razi (Mafatih, al-ghayb al-mushtahar bi-al-tafsir al-kabir.)

So it is obvious that ‘made to appear to them’ is not something one can attribute to Allah.

Allah (swt) tells us about his sublime revelation:

“It is a blessed Book which We have revealed for you so that you will reflect upon its verses and so the people of understanding will take heed.” (Qur’an 38:29)

“Surely We know well that they say about you: “It is only a human being who teaches him,” (notwithstanding) that he whom they maliciously hint at is of foreign tongue, while this (Qur’an) is plain Arabic clear.” (Qur’an 16:103)

There really is no need for so much confusion and obfuscation over this verse. We do not need to appeal to extraneous material that is not divine in authority, has no connected chain back to the original sources, is confused in its reports and proclaims some supra natural event that Allah (swt) himself did not claim.

وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ ٱخۡتَلَفُوا۟ فِیهِ لَفِی شَكࣲّ مِّنۡهُۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّۚ

“It was made to appear to them so” is not a text addressed to anyone who witnessed anything at all!

 ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ Tells us that there are disagreements

شَكّ Tells us that they are in doubt

مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ Tells us they are not basing this upon knowledge

ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّۚ Tell us they are following dhan (assumption or conjecture)

“And indeed, those who differ in it surely are in doubt about it. Their knowledge is based upon the following of dhan assumption or conjecture.”

In other words, those who are saying: “We killed Christ Jesus the Son of Mary the Messenger of Allah.”  Are not eyewitnesses to anything. They are only following the traditions of those who make claims based upon conjecture and no knowledge.

ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّۚ it is this same following of dhan (assumption and conjecture) taken from the very same people whom Allah (swt) tells us are in disagreements, are in doubt, not based upon knowledge that we get ultra bizarre translations of the Qur’an an like the following:

And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (i.e. Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) )  (Qur’an 4:157) –Muhsin Khan & Muhammed al-Hilali

Does that make a lick of sense to anyone?

So let’s get this right. Wahb Ibn Munabbih takes his knowledge from people whom Allah (swt) tells us are in disagreements, are in doubt, not basing information upon knowledge, only following conjecture, and they get to inform us about what Allah’s revelation says?

“So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammed], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those (ahla l-dhik’ri) who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.” (Qur’an 10:94)

Notice the phrase: ahla l-dhik’ri and not ahla l-kitābi

The above verse is only applicable in those matters where they themselves do not have doubts about the matter and has to be taken into context with what Allah (swt) has description of those in (Qur’an 4:157)

May Allah (swt) bless Dr. Louay Fatoohi for his sincere and noble efforts. For the most part, he is only defending the indefensible. 1200 plus years of fuzzy logic and copy-and-paste scholarship. Statements by converts to Islam which are based upon conjecture and have no connected chain of transmission going back to the companions of Jesus.

Please do see our article:

May Allah Guide the Christians so that they do not burn in the hellfire.

May Allah (swt)bless the ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the ummah.

May Allah (swt) guide the ummah.

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The Qur’an is sublime. Understanding 18:79-81

“As for the ship, it belonged to some poor people, working at sea. So I intended to damage it, for there was a king ahead of them who seizes every ship by force.” “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would pressure them into defiance and disbelief. So we hoped that their Lord would give them another, more virtuous and caring in his place.” (Qur’an 18:79-81)

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The Qur’an is sublime.

“Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur’an that you might understand.” (Qur’an 43:3)

In the Qur’an, in chapter 18, verses 65 to 82, we have information related to us by a figure that Islamic scholars have named ‘Khidr’.

Finally, when Prophet Moses (as) is no longer able to keep patient with this figure and the things that this figure does prompt Moses (as) on every occasion to question why he does the things that he does, he finally gets resolution.

“As for the ship, it belonged to some poor people, working at sea. So I intended to damage it, for there was a king ahead of them who seizes every ship by force.” “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would pressure them into defiance and disbelief. So we hoped that their Lord would give them another, more virtuous and caring in his place.” “And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure for them, and their father had been righteous. So your Lord intended that they reach maturity and extract their treasure, as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of that about which you could not have patience.” (Qur’an 18:79-81)

None of the translations of the meaning can give justice to the Arabic Qur’an.

As regards the action of damaging the ship. The individual ascribes that action to himself.

So I intended to damage it. I intended: fa-aradttu 1st person singular verb.

“and we feared that he would pressure them into defiance and disbelief. So we hoped that their Lord would give them another, more virtuous and caring in his place.”

We feared: fakhashina 1st person plural perfect verb. The ‘we feared’ is better translated or understood as ‘we disliked’. Whatever displeases Allah (swt) displeases his loyal and faithful servants.

We hoped: fa-aradna 1st person plural perfect verb. The ‘we hoped’ is better translated as we intended.

In here fakhashina  ‘we disliked’ he returns it to himself and to Allah (swt). Why?

  • Killing the child, he returns back to himself.

“So they proceeded until they came across a boy, and the man killed him. Moses protested, “Have you killed an innocent soul who killed no one?” You have certainly done a horrible thing.” (Qur’an 18:74)

“So we hoped that their Lord would give them another, more virtuous and caring in his place.”

  • Allah is replacing the child with another.

So the killing is from the companion of Moses (as) and the replacement is from Allah (swt). You can use the ‘We’ as Allah (swt) is the creator of all things and human beings acquire the actions.

“So your Lord intended that they reach maturity and extract their treasure, as a mercy from your Lord.”

The Lord intended: fa-arada rabbuka 3rd person masculine singular perfect verb

fa-aradttu (I intended) an a’ibaha (cause a defect) -I wanted to.
fa-aradna- (we intended)
fa-arada rabbuka (so intended Your Lord)

Very often the various translations rob the reader of the depth of the Arabic language.

Another example is Qur’an 3:7

“And none know its interpretation save God and those firmly rooted in knowledge. They say, “We believe in it; all is from our Lord.” 

Those who may lack depth of Arabic grammar and syntax would argue that the verse should be read as: “But none knows its interpretation except Allah”. And those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: “We believe in this, it is all from our Lord.”

Whereas the better reading is:

“But none knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge. They say, “We believe in this it is all from our Lord.”

However, due to the lack of depth of the Arabic grammar and syntax, they would object by looking at English translations of the meanings and say:

That Allah (swt) would not say: “We believe in this it is all from our Lord.”

But this is not the proper understanding at all. The part of the verse: “We believe in this it is all from our Lord.” Is a reference to : “Those who are firmly rooted in knowledge.” and not to Allah (swt).

Issues that arise from the verses by those not grounded in theology.

They argue that it looks as if Allah (swt) is certain of the righteousness of the substitute son that does not exist yet; all the while, the unbelieving son, Allah (swt) was simply using the principle of probability.

But this type of reasoning is turned on its head. If Allah (swt) knew, the righteousness of the substitute son, which does not exist yet, he certainly knew of the actions of the unbelieving son.

Allah (swt) allowing for the son to be killed as well as the announcement of another son are all based upon certain knowledge that Allah (swt) has.

All praise be to Allah (swt).

The Qur’an is sublime.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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Prophet David (as) and the dispute between the two men.

“We strengthened his kingship, and gave him wisdom and sound judgment.” (Qur’an 38:20)

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These verses are a case study that strengthen the position of the Ibadi school that Muslims should not rely upon the Israʼiliyyat material to provide further points of elucidation on any matter of our faith.

Narrated Ubaidullah:

Ibn `Abbas said, “Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Qur’an) which has been revealed to Allah’s Messenger (saw) is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, ‘It is from Allah,’ to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7363)

Now we are left with a conundrum.

Read, and reflect, dear readers.

Because this hadith is from Ibn Abbas (ra). Ibn Abbas (ra) is clearly telling us not to rely upon the People of the Scripture while we have the Qur’an.

*Note* Ibn Abbas (ra) according to the hadith clearly states:

“Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything?“

Yet low and behold!

https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/38.21

“(And hath the story of the litigants come unto thee?) Then came to you the story of the opponents of David. (How they climbed the wall into the royal chamber…”

https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/38.22

“How they burst in upon David, and he) David (was afraid of them. They) i.e. the two angels who entered in on David (said: Be not afraid (We are) two litigants, one of whom hath wronged the other, therefore judge aright) justly (between us; be not unjust) do not be partial and transgress not; (and show us the fair way) show us what is right.”

https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/38.23

“(Lo! this my brother hath ninety and nine ewes) meaning 99 wives (while I had one ewe) i.e. one wife; (and he said: Entrust it to me, and he conquered me in speech) this is a similitude which they struck for David in order for him to understand what he did to Uriah.”

https://quranx.com/Tafsirs/38.26

“((And it was said to him): O David! Lo! We have set you as a vicegerent in the earth) We appointed you a prophet king for the Children of Israel; (therefore judge aright between mankind) judge justly between people, (and follow not desire) that as you did regarding Bathseba, the wife of Uriah, who was also David’s cousin (that it beguile you from the way of Allah) from the obedience of Allah. (Lo! those who wander from the way of Allah) from the obedience of Allah (have an awful doom, forasmuch as they forgot the Day of Reckoning) because they forsake working for the Day of Reckoning.”

So now we are in a conundrum. Here are some propositions that require reflection.

  1. The above hadith is not true because Ibn Abbas (ra) apparently is relying upon information that neither the Qur’an nor the Blessed Prophet (saw) provides.
  2. The above hadith is true and this tafsir attributed to Ibn Abbas (ra) needs to be put under a microscope and further scrutiny.
  3. Ibn Abbas (ra) used to believe the statement in the hadith, but later changed his opinion, thus we have the bizarre Israʼiliyyat material in his Tafsir.
  4. The bizarre Israʼiliyyat material in Ibn Abbas (ra) tafsir is about an earlier position he held and the hadith captures a latter position in which he corrected the error of his ways.

“We strengthened his kingship, and gave him wisdom and sound judgment. Has the story of the two plaintiffs, who scaled the sanctuary, reached you? When they came into David’s presence, he was startled by them. They said, “Have no fear. We are merely two in a dispute: one of us has wronged the other. So judge between us with truth—do not go beyond it and guide us to the right way. This is my brother. He has ninety-nine sheep while I have one. He asked me to give it up to him, overwhelming me with his argument.” David’s ruling was: “He has definitely wronged you in demanding to add your sheep to his. And certainly many partners wrong each other, except those who believe and do good—but how few are they!” Then David realized that We had tested him so he asked for his Lord’s forgiveness, fell down in prostration, and turned in repentance. So We forgave that for him. And he will indeed have closeness to Us and an honourable destination! “O David! We have surely made you an authority in the land, so judge between people with truth. And do not follow whims or they will lead you astray from Allah’s Way. Surely those who go astray from Allah’s Way will suffer a severe punishment for neglecting the Day of Reckoning.” (Qur’an 38:20-26)

We will give our argument that of the questions that are put forward the position of Ibn Abbas (ra) is either position 2 or 4. The Tafsir attributed to Ibn Abbas (ra) has some bizarre assertions.

In order to believe in either proposition 1 or 3 we would need solid answers to the following questions:

A) Why would angels need to: “climb a wall into a royal chamber?” They are angels why do they need to climb or scale anything?

B) Since when did Prophets serve as a litigant in a dispute with angels?

C) Since when did angels have sheep?

D) Where did Ibn Abbas (ra) get the idea that the sheep are actually women? Why would the Arabic text, which clearly states sheep, be seen as a metaphor for women unless one was reliant upon Israʼiliyyat.

As regards what some commentators think, this is a reference to let me remind the readers of the Biblical account that accuses the Prophet. 

Regarding the incident of King David and Uriah, it is alluded to in the Qur’an (38:21-25) in the Parable of the Ewes. It becomes evident that King David did commit some mistake with regard to taking Uriah’s wife. But, of course, we don’t say he committed adultery with her.


Allegedly Prophet David (as) commits adultery and is culpable in murder according to the Bible.

“Brothers, I can tell you with confidence that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne.” (Acts 2:29-30)

Next, we have the story of Prophet David (as)

Apparently, if we are to believe the testimony in the Bible concerning David, we find that he was a man who led a woman to commit adultery and committed adultery himself. He lusted after another man’s wife, watched her bath naked. He then had this woman’s husband killed. He tried to hide the fact he made this woman pregnant out of wedlock. This is the same David that, according to Christians, writes all the prophecies concerning Jesus in the 22 Psalms and throughout the Psalms. Even accordingly, David wrote evil things like the following:

“In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. In it, he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”

If I was to measure the Prophets of the Bible-based upon how some Christians measure the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw) I could never become a Christian. I would have to reject the testimony concerning the “prophecies” concerning Jesus in the Psalms.

“One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof, he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.” Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (Now she was purifying herself from her monthly uncleanness.)

Then she went back home. The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, “I am pregnant.” “So David sent this word to Joab: “Send me Uriah the Hittite.” And Joab sent him to David. When Uriah came to him, David asked him how Joab was, how the soldiers were, and how the war was going. Then David said to Uriah, “Go down to your house and wash your feet.” So Uriah left the palace, and a gift from the king was sent after him. But Uriah slept at the entrance to the palace with all his master’s servants and did not go down to his house.”

“David was told, “Uriah did not go home.” So he asked Uriah, “Haven’t you just come from a military campaign? Why didn’t you go home?” “Uriah said to David, “The ark and Israel and Judah are staying in tents, and my commander Joab and my lord’s men are camped in the open country. How could I go to my house to eat and drink and make love to my wife? As surely as you live, I will not do such a thing!”

“Then David said to him, “Stay here one more day, and tomorrow I will send you back.” So Uriah remained in Jerusalem that day and the next. At David’s invitation, he ate and drank with him, and David made him drunk. But in the evening Uriah went out to sleep on his mat among his master’s servants; he did not go home.”

” In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. In it, he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.” “So while Joab had the city under siege, he put Uriah at a place where he knew the strongest defenders were. When the men of the city came out and fought against Joab, some of the men in David’s army fell; moreover, Uriah the Hittite died.”

“Joab sent David a full account of the battle. He instructed the messenger: “When you have finished giving the king this account of the battle, the king’s anger may flare up, and he may ask you, ‘Why did you get so close to the city to fight? Didn’t you know they would shoot arrows from the wall? Who killed Abimelek son of Jerub-Besheth? Didn’t a woman drop an upper millstone on him from the wall, so that he died in Thebez? Why did you get so close to the wall?’ If he asks you this, then say to him, ‘Moreover, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead.’”

“The messenger set out, and when he arrived he told David everything Joab had sent him to say. The messenger said to David, “The men overpowered us and came out against us in the open, but we drove them back to the entrance of the city gate. Then the archers shot arrows at your servants from the wall, and some of the king’s men died. Moreover, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead.” “David told the messenger, “Say this to Joab: ‘Don’t let this upset you; the sword devours one as well as another. Press the attack against the city and destroy it.’ Say this to encourage Joab.”

“When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the Lord.” (2nd Samuel 11:2-27)

What does the displeased Lord do with David?

“This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes, I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’”

“Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” “Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.” “After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.” On the seventh day, the child died.”

David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him”. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.” “David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.” “Yes,” they replied, “He is dead.”

“Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions, and changed his clothes, he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request, they served him food, and he ate.” “His attendants asked him, “Why are you acting this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but now that the child is dead, you get up and eat!”

“He answered, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, ‘Who knows? The Lord may be gracious to me and let the child live.’ But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.” “Then David comforted his wife Bathsheba, and he went to her and made love to her. She gave birth to a son, and they named him Solomon. The Lord loved him; and because the Lord loved him, he sent word through Nathan the prophet to name him Jedidiah.” (2 Samuel 12:11-25)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

So the Lord (Jesus The Son, The Father, and that third wheel, aka- The Holy Spirit) was displeased with David’s actions. So what do they ultimately do? What do THEY DO to David?

  1. They kill David’s infant son! Imagine David saying to his son: “Sorry, son but Daddy got into a fling with some other dudes wife and now well lil tyke you’re going to have die for that!”
  2. They make a decree that David will have his wives taken from him and made to commit adultery in broad daylight. God of the Bible via Prophet Nathan: “What you did displeased me. You know I don’t like it when people commit adultery. To prove my point I am going to decree to have your wives go and commit adultery in broad daylight just to show you how much I dislike adultery!”
  3. Lastly, they reward David with a son through the wife who cheated on her husband and gave her Solomon who in return became a King of Israel and a Prophet! God of the Bible via Prophet Nathan: “David what you did was very bad and even though I killed your son who did not have anything do with your sexual proprietaries but that is water under the bridge, lesson learned. Thus, I am going give you another son through the same women that cheated on her husband.”

What in the Cinnamon Toast Crunch kind of justice is this?!

Notice the above text states:

” I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives.”

Such a notable threat, but we don’t hear anything of that kind. The text says that I will take your wives and take them to one who is close to David, and he will sleep with your wives. Which begs the question. How certain can we be that this child that Bathsheba had with David was his child at all?

We have no idea how much time has passed since the death of Uriah and although the text goes out of its way to make it seem that he never had intimacy with her for some time, we can’t be entirely certain. Not only that, but apparently, according to the threats issued by the God of the Bible to David that he would take his wives and give them to someone who will commit adultery with them, how certain can we be that this individual is not the father?

Anyway, this is the depiction of the deity of the Bible and the “justice” of that deity. There is absolutely no justification to think that the passage of the (Qur’an 38:20-26) had anything to do with that, at all!

Not only this but the above text is in major contradiction with the above.

“But the children of the murderers he did not execute, according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, in which the Lord commanded, saying, “Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers; but a person shall be put to death for his own sin.” (2 Kings 14:6)

Note that the children of the murderers were not executed. But the above text has:

“You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.”

Shaykh Dr. Khalan Al Kharousi (H) has an explanation for this. All praise be to Allah (swt).

Dr. Khalan Al Kharousi (h) mentions a very important point. That here and there a particular mufassir (exegete) would look at the Qur’an through the lens of the Israʼiliyyat material. Which brings us that unfortunate bit about Uriah and David. The text of the Qur’an is far, far from this.

Now that is the explanation given by Shaykh Dr. Khalan (h).

There is another explanation given by our teacher, Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani (h) of Algeria.

Shaykh Dawud’s explanation is very straight forward. He focuses on the following text:

  1. So judge between us with truth—do not go beyond it and guide us to the right way.
  2. David’s ruling was: “He has definitely wronged you in demanding to add your sheep to his.
  3. Then David realized that We had tested him so he asked for his Lord’s forgiveness, fell down in prostration, and turned in repentance
  4. We have surely made you an authority in the land, so judge between people with truth. And do not follow whims or they will lead you astray from Allah’s Way

So the straight forward explanation given by Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani of Algeria is that the hakim should hear both sides of the story. David (as) upon hearing that one brother had the bulk of the sheep, gave in to his whims and was hasty in coming to a decision. However, he immediately realized this. As if he was going to turn to the second brother and say (now you speak) but by than David (as) already showed himself not to be impartial. Thus, David (as) was quick to turn in repentance to Allah (swt).

For those of you who understand Arabic, do not miss out on this gem of the Ummah, Shaykh Dawud Bu-Sinani (h). Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan attended his lecture series in Oman.

Here is a 7 hour Qur’anic course contains seven chapters dealing with the foundations of faith and the practical rules that a Muslim should follow in order to meet his Lord with a blank page free from the traces of sins and sins!

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah!

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah!

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Dr. Ali Ataie and his understanding of شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ (shubbiha lahum) Qur’an 4:157

“And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.”  (Qur’an 4:157)

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As mentioned before we do a tight textual analsysis of the Qur’an in order to reach the correct understanding. This is done by comparing a word with all other instances of that word in the Qur’an. This is done by also comparing the context of verses with their surrounding verses. This is known as  Tafsir al-Quran bi-l-Quran. (Interpreting the Qur’an by the Qur’an)

In a discussion on Blogging Theology titled: “Jesus was not crucified: the evidence with Dr. Ali Ataie.” Dr. Ali Ataie made some very interesting assertions. Assertions which move him closer to our position.

@40:28 Dr. Ataie states: “But I do believe that myth and legend has probably soo permeated the gospel accounts of Jesus passion narratives that it is not at all beyond reason to dismiss them completely as historical fiction!”

Prima-Qur’an comments: Allahu Akbar! there you go Dr. Ataie now that is the ticket!
Than the idea that someone was “crucified” is likely based upon what? Myth and legend.

Dr. Ataie gets into his understanding of: Qur’an 4:157 “It was made to appear to them so.“

@53:38 “They did not have information. It did not come from a reliable source.”
@54:11 “Jews and Christians ended up following hearsay reports about some crucifixion event from non eye-witnesses….”

Prima-Qur’an comments: Dr. Ataie state: ” “Jews and Christians ended up following hearsay reports about some crucifixion event from non eye-witnesses….”

I would replace some words in the above sentence: “Jews and Christians ended up following hearsay reports about some imaplement event from non eye-witnesses….

“Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), (Galatians 3:13)

  1. Paul is quoting from a text that mentions a post mortem suspension punishment. The individual is killed first and while dead then supsended. Christians understand the Crucifixion as an ante mortem suspension punishment where the person is killed via asphyxiation while alive and being suspended.

This is exactly what shubbiha lahum means. It is not shubi ha alayhim!

In fact because we love you the readers insh’Allah I will give you a sneak peak at one of the slides that Shaykh Hilal and I are working on.

No pay wall and no gate keeping information!

This is the critical linguistic and contextual refinement. This is a far more precise reading of the phrase شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ (shubbiha lahum) and the verses that follow.

From the Ibadi perspective and reading of the verse the point fundamentally shifts the understanding of the verse from a narrative about a visual illusion in real-time to a critique of a historical claim based on unreliable transmission. Let’s integrate this correction.

The Correct Understanding of Point 4:167

The phrase وَ لٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ (“but it was made to appear so to them”) does not describe a miraculous event witnessed by onlookers in real time. Instead, it critiques the oral tradition and historical narrative that the Jewish community subsequent to the event had come to believe and propagate.

The Qur’an’s own subsequent words completely invalidate the possibility of this being an eye-witness account:

  • إِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِنْهُ – “Indeed, those who differ over it are surely in doubt about it.” (4:157)
    • Doubt (شَكٍّ – shakk) is impossible for someone who witnessed an execution firsthand.
  • مَا لَهُمْ بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ – “They have no knowledge of it.” (4:157)
    • Knowledge (عِلْمٍ – ‘ilm) is exactly what an eye-witness would claim to have.
  • إِنْ يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ – “They follow not except assumption.” (4:157)
    • Assumption (الظَّنَّ – al-ẓann) is the antithesis of eye-witness testimony.

A Hadith that is classified as الظَّنَّ (al-ẓann), meaning “conjectural” or “of presumptive status,” and comes from a lone narrator (or a single strand of transmission) is known as a Khabar al-Āḥād (خبر الآحاد).

Here’s a detailed breakdown:

Definition: A Khabar al-Āḥād is a report (Hadith) that does not reach the highest level of mass transmission (Mutawātir). It is narrated by one or a few individuals at any stage of its chain of narration (isnad), such that the number of narrators does not generate absolute, certain knowledge (ilm al-yaqīn) in the listener. Instead, it generates presumptive knowledge (ilm al-ẓannī), which is sufficient for action but is theoretically open to doubt.

Therefore, the Qur’an is not describing a supernatural trickery of the senses that happened in the past. It is describing the state of the received narrative in the present tense of its revelation.

The chain of meaning, according to this corrected interpretation, is:

  1. The Claim: A specific Jewish community (contemporary to the Prophet Muhammed or just prior) boasts, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” This is their historical claim.
  2. The Denial: The Qur’an flatly denies this: “And they did not kill him, nor did they impale him (وَ مَا صَلَبُوهُ).”
  3. The Explanation for the False Claim: How did this false claim arise? The event was “made to appear to them (شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)” in their oral traditions and historical accounts. The truth was obscured within their own narrative.
  4. The Proof of the Falsehood: The proof that this claim is a baseless tradition and not established fact is that those who argue over it are in doubt, devoid of certain knowledge, and following only assumptions about what truly happened. True eye-witnesses to a capital punishment would not be in a state of doubt and conjecture; they would be certain.

You may also be interested in reading:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Letter (e-mail) to Professor Todd Lawson on Qur’an 4:157

“And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.”  (Qur’an 4:157)

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This is a recent e-mail sent to Todd Lawson an Emeritus Professor of Islamic thought at the University of Toronto.

For those unfamiliar. Professor Todd Lawson his cv-curriculum vitae can be found here: https://discover.research.utoronto.ca/27086-todd-lawson

I sent this inquiry as I am genuinely curious as to why he or anyone for that matter think that the Qur’an 4:157 seem to be interacting with anything that the Romans have done, or that the text is talking about a historical event known as the “Crucifixion” or that the Qur’an is denying/or affirming anything about a Cross at all.

Greetings Professor Lawson

I hope this email finds you in the best of health. 

I had read your book “The Crucifixion and the Qur’an: A Study in the HIstory of Muslim Thought.”

It was certainly an interesting read. 

You have noted how extraneous material has influenced the Sunni Tafsir tradition and popular interpretation of Qur’an 4:157. 

So to this point I am curious as to why you think the Qur’an engaged with an historical event popularly known as “The Crucifixion” at all?

The reason I ask this is because when one looks at the immediate text of the Qur’an 4:157 there does not seem to be any mention of Romans or Roman involvement at all.

I am deeply interested why your good self or anyone would feel that the Qur’an 4:157 engages with an historical event popularly known as “The Crucifixion” at all. I believe that a reading of the text without extraneous material tells us that the text is interacting with certain Jews who were making certain claims about Jesus. 

When we read Qur’an 4:155 for example:

“They have incurred Allah’s wrath for their breaking the covenant, and their rejection of the signs of Allah and for slaying Prophets without right, and for saying: ‘Our hearts are wrapped up in covers-even though in fact Allah has sealed their hearts because of their unbelief, so that they scarcely believe.” 

I believe we both concur that it would seem out of place for that text to address the Romans of the time of Jesus.

Furthermore the Qur’an 4:157 has a double denial in the text. They did not kill him nor did they (salabu). The initial denial is general and it can easily accommodate any understanding of a possible demise of Jesus. 

It is immensely curious to follow up a general denial that can accommodate any particular understanding of any possible demise of Jesus with a particular denial immediately after. 

Is it not more sensible in keeping with the immediate text and surrounding text to see this as the Qur’an interacting with particular claims made by Jews about Jesus?  Rather these claims are based upon any historical event, document or even oral transmissions in certain circles that the Qur’an would be familiar with?

Given that this seems to be the very obvious case, how do you propose somehow Romans, and a “Crucifixion” is posited upon the text of Qur’an 4:157?

It is peculiar because Jews do not crucify people in their law. It is not a part of the Torah nor of the Talmud of which I am sure you are aware. 

They do have laws about killing people and then impailing them. They do have assertions about those impaled being cursed by God. 

Equally curious is the idea that (salabu) would translate to a Latin Cross, or the Tau Cross. 

Given that the Qur’an in  (7:124); 20:71; & 26:49) all describe cutting off the hands and the feet and given what we know about supporting the body weight on an ecclesiastical “Cross” it is it not presumptuous of us to assume Latin Cross, Tau etc? 

The two noun forms in Qur’an 86:7 & Qur’an 4:23 which relate to the loins and the lumbus region seem to forcefully argue with a type of punishment that would involve impalement rather than anything to do with being tied to a patibulum and affixed to a crux or stake and than having nails driven in ones hands and feet.

When we look at the text of Qur’an 5:33 on page 31 of your book you state:

“the criminal was killed by a separate means before their corpse was publicly displayed on a pike or cross.”   

This does not seem to correlate to what Christians have in mind when they invoke the “Crucifixion” of Jesus. They seem to think this is a death on a cross and not a death prior to a cross. 

 I also felt that pike was more appropriate than cross given what we know about the Islamic legal schools. None of the legal schools, Ibadi, Zaydi, Zahiri, Shafi’i, Imami, Maliki, Hanafi or Hanbali make it a requirement to put someone on a patibulum and affix that patibulum to a crux or stake and than proceed to drive nails in the hands and feet.

Much more can be said. Again I believe my initial inquiry is that if we do a plain reading of Qur’an 4:157 or even invoke the immediate context where are we drawing upon the idea that this is interacting with something the Romans are said to have done to Jesus? 

Thank you for your time. 

Have a blessed weekend ahead.

If you would like to read more on this subject I invite you to read the following:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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