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Fighting a Muslim is Kufr. The Ibadi Doctrine of kufr ni’mah in regard to the companions

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell—where they will stay indefinitely.Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.” (Qur’an 4:93)

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The following article is a translation of the wonderful presentation by the respected Shaykh

In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.

Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, and prayers and peace be upon the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers, our master Muhammed, and upon his family and his righteous, guided companions. To proceed:

Peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you.


Introduction: The Allegations Answered Once and For All.

My brothers, in this article we continue responding to a persistent allegation—that the Ibadis declare the Companions to be disbelievers, that we excommunicate them from Islam. This accusation is repeated endlessly by those who either misunderstand our creed or deliberately misrepresent it.

As we have said before, this attack against the Ibadis is the result of these people’s ignorance regarding the principle of loyalty and disavowal (al-walāyah wa’l-barā’ah) among the Ibadis. Likewise, these people are trying to conceal what they themselves call the faults of some of the Companions—namely, the events that occurred during the civil strife (fitnah). These events are what led those scholars to declare disavowal from some of the Companions.

These people are not only ignorant of the principle of loyalty and disavowal, but they are also trying to conceal and avoid discussing these events.

When these people throw this accusation at the Ibadis, they simply say directly: “The Ibadis declare the Companions disbelievers,” without discussing the reasons. There are reasons that led those scholars to declare disavowal regarding those Companions.


What Our Opponents Say: Documenting the Accusation

Let us document exactly what our opponents claim. Listen carefully to their own words:

“Look, regardless of my disagreement with them, they declare ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān to be a disbeliever, and they declare ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, and Ḥasan ibn ʿAlī, and Ḥusayn ibn ʿAlī, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Yet despite that, they do not openly state it. Rather, you find this in their major books. You find it in their books. They also have an element of taqiyyah (dissimulation). Even so, I do not know whether this expression will be understood properly or not, but I respect in them the absence of sectarianism. This is their creed: they declare the Prophet’s Companions disbelievers. This is their creed: they declare the Prophet’s Companions disbelievers. Yes, we declare Muʿāwiyah a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare Marwān a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare ʿUthmān a disbeliever, but we still narrate from him. We declare ʿAlī and al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn disbelievers, but we still narrate from al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn. This is the Ibadi belief.”

Another says:

“Therefore we are not surprised by this stance, for the position of the early Ibadis regarding the Companions—especially the two caliphs—is contrary to the methodology of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamāʿah. It included criticism, takfīr, and false disavowal from the best of this nation. As for the other two Rightly Guided Caliphs, ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān and ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, may Allah be pleased with them, the Khawārij, including the Ibadis, remained deeply astray concerning them, attributing to them things from which Allah declared them innocent, and speaking grievously against them.”

And another:

“They called themselves the people of truth and uprightness, but they are the people of falsehood and misguidance. Hatred toward Ahl al-Sunnah. Let me add even more: they declare ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib and ʿUthmān disbelievers—and also al-Ḥasan and al-Ḥusayn, of course. As for Muʿāwiyah ibn Abī Sufyān, he exited Islam through its widest gates.”

As you have heard, these people claim that the Ibadis declare ʿUthmān, ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, al-Ḥasan, al-Ḥusayn, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Then they say that the Ibadis do not openly state this and that they practice a kind of taqiyyah. They say this is our creed.


The Reality: No Taqiyyah, No Doctrine of Takfīr

The reality is that this is not our creed, nor is there any taqiyyah. Rather, it is their ignorance. They are ignorant of the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension (wuqūf) among the Ibadis.

One of these opponents commented on an interview with one of our shaykhs. The interviewer asked the shaykh about Sayyidunā Abū Bakr and Sayyidunā ʿUmar, then afterwards about Sayyidunā ʿUthmān. They claim that he stuttered. The reality is that the shaykh did not stutter. Rather, he was avoiding reopening the fitnah and the events that occurred among the Companions. He did not want to stir up these matters, so he avoided them. Yet they claim he hesitated and faltered.

The shaykh did not hesitate or stutter. He answered. The problem is not with the shaykh—the problem is with them. They are ignorant of the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension. Anyone who understands this doctrine would know that the shaykh did answer the question.

The shaykh did not want to bring out what is found in their own books regarding the events that occurred among the Companions. He was avoiding this issue.

The shaykh said—according to the meaning of his words—that there were those who had one opinion and others who had another opinion. This is the reality. The issue returns to the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension. There are people with one opinion and others with another. That is the answer. The shaykh cannot specify which of those opinions is correct because the matter returns to our doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension.

They want the shaykh simply to say: “Disbeliever” or “not a disbeliever.” But the matter is not that simple. This black-and-white approach belongs to them. The shaykh is not obligated to adopt their methodology, nor are the Ibadis obligated to adopt their methodology in these issues. We Ibadis have our own methodology and doctrine: the doctrine of loyalty, disavowal, and suspension.

Now, these people claim that we declare ʿUthmān, ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib, al-Ḥasan, al-Ḥusayn, and a group of the Prophet’s Companions to be disbelievers. Then they say we do not openly state it and that we practice taqiyyah. Then they say this is the creed of the Ibadis.

The reality is that there is neither taqiyyah nor a doctrine of declaring the Companions disbelievers. Declaring the Companions disbelievers is not a doctrine among the Ibadis. We do not have a chapter in our creed titled: “The Ibadi doctrine of declaring the Companions disbelievers.” This is their ignorance.

If we focus on their words and these responses and clips they produced, we find them constantly repeating the term takfīr, the term kufr. They say: “They declared disbelief,” “acts of disbelief,” “so-and-so is a disbeliever.”

One of them even distorted the shaykh’s words in that interview, lied, and played with expressions. Anyone who watches the interview and his commentary will find that he distorted the shaykh’s words and attributed to him statements he never made. The shaykh never uttered the term takfīr. Yet this man attributes to the Ibadis things they never said.


Did the Ibadis Invent the Term Kufr?

Now, does this term—takfīr—have any basis? Did the Ibadis invent it out of thin air, as they claim, or does it have a basis in religion?

Let us establish this. Let us speak and cite from the books of these people themselves. We will not use Ibadi sources. Rather, we will prove everything we say from the sources of these people.

The Prophetic Evidence

In Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, the most authentic book after the Qur’an according to Ahl al-Sunnah, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:

“Do not revert after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.” 

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7077)

And in another narration:

“Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.”

Source: (https://sunnah.com/muslim:65)

The Messenger is addressing whom here? He is addressing the Companions.

The Prophet ﷺ also said:

“Insulting a Muslim is wickedness, and fighting him is disbelief.” 

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:48)

This is another ḥadīth proving the usage of the term kufr for actions committed by Muslims against other Muslims.


What Sunni Scholars Say About this Kufr

Now let us see what these people’s own scholars say regarding these ḥadīths and the term kufr.

Muhammed ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn

Muhammed ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn, one of the most revered contemporary Sunni scholars, says in his commentary on Riyāḍ al-Ṣāliḥīn, volume 4, page 70:

“Then the Prophet ﷺ said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ … This indicates that believers fighting one another is kufr.”

Notice: He says “believers fighting one another is kufr.” He does not say the fighters have left Islam. He affirms they are believers, yet their fighting is kufr.

However, you know what has happened to soften this in some English translations? They translate it as: “This indicates that believers fighting one constitutes some disbelief.”

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/9260/1936) verify and translate into English.

Muhammed Nāṣir al-Dīn al-Albānī

In Al-Thamar al-Mustatāb fī Fiqh al-Sunnah wa al-Kitāb, page 53, al-Albānī says:

“Know that many ḥadīths have come attributing kufr to those who commit major sins … among them: ‘Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr’… and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ All these ḥadīths are authentic. So if we know that kufr has levels (darajāt), and that some forms do not eternally condemn a person to Hell, then there is no need for reinterpretation.”

Al-Albānī explicitly affirms three critical points:

  1. Kufr has levels (darajāt).
  2. Some forms of kufr do not eternally condemn a person to Hell.
  3. Therefore, there is no need to reinterpret these ḥadīths away—they mean what they say, but kufr does not always mean apostasy.

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/306/54) verify and translate into English.

Ibn Taymiyyah

In Kitāb al-Īmān, page 279, Ibn Taymiyyah says:

“Based on this principle, a person may possess a branch of disbelief while also possessing faith. Thus the Prophet ﷺ named many sins as kufr, though the person committing them may still have more than an atom’s weight of faith and therefore not remain eternally in Hell. Such as his statement: ‘Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr,’ and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’ This is widespread from the Prophet ﷺ in authentic narrations.”

Then he says:

“He called those who strike one another’s necks unjustly ‘disbelievers.’”

And he says this is “kufr less than kufr,” as some Companions said.

This is extraordinary. Ibn Taymiyyah—the scholar revered by many of our opponents—explicitly affirms:

  • A person can have “a branch of disbelief” while still possessing faith.
  • The Prophet called certain sins kufr.
  • This kufr does not necessarily mean eternal damnation.
  • Some Companions themselves called this “kufr less than kufr.”

This is precisely the Ibadi position.

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/7564/272) verify and translate into English.

Ṣāliḥ Āl al-Shaykh

In Sharḥ al-ʿAqīdah al-Ṭaḥāwiyyah, volume 2, pages 851–852, Ṣāliḥ Āl al-Shaykh says:

“If hatred is for worldly reasons only, then this is lesser disbelief and does not reach major disbelief. Hence the Prophet ﷺ said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.’”

Then on page 852 he says:

“The fact that some Companions fought others involves entering into traits of disbelief … therefore he said: ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers.’”

He then says this disbelief may be lesser or greater depending on the nature of the hatred.

Sources: (

Ibn Taymiyyah on the Authenticity of These Ḥadīths

In Minhāj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah, volume 4, pages 499–500, Ibn Taymiyyah is responding to the Rāfiḍah (Shīʿa). In this section he imagines an argument from the Nawāṣib against the Rāfiḍah. He says:

“If the Nawāṣib said to you Rāfiḍah: ‘ʿAlī permitted the blood of Muslims and fought them without the command of Allah and His Messenger, merely for leadership,’ and then cited the Prophet’s words ‘Fighting him is kufr’ and ‘Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another,’ then ʿAlī would thereby be a disbeliever…”

Then Ibn Taymiyyah says:

“Your argument, O Rāfiḍah, would not be stronger than theirs, because the ḥadīths they used are authentic.”

Ibn Taymiyyah affirms that these ḥadīths containing the term kufr are authentic. He does not deny their application to Muslims who fight Muslims.

Sources: (https://shamela.ws/book/927/2203) & (https://shamela.ws/book/927/2204) verify and translate into English.

Al-Dhahabī

In his book on trustworthy narrators, al-Dhahabī says on page 23:

“If we opened this door for ourselves, many Companions, Followers, and imams would enter into it. Some Companions declared others disbelievers based on interpretation.”

Al-Dhahabī affirms takfīr occurring among the Companions themselves—based on interpretive ijtihād, not because the target of takfīr had actually left Islam.

Source: (https://shamela.ws/book/5817/1#p1)

Imam al-Nawawī

Imam al-Nawawī said in his commentary on Sahih Muslim: “To insult a Muslim without right is forbidden by the consensus of the Ummah, and the one who does it is a fāsiq (morally corrupt), as the Prophet (peace be upon him) informed. As for fighting him without right, it does not constitute kufr that expels one from the religion according to Ahl al-Haqq, unless one deems it lawful. Now that this is established, there are several interpretations of the hadith: First — it applies to the one who deems such acts lawful. Second — it is meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah. Third — it leads to disbelief due to its evil consequences. Fourth — it resembles the actions of disbelievers.”

First — it applies to the one who deems such acts lawful.

Their interpretation is if you kill a fellow a Muslim but you don’t believe that it is lawful to do so then it is not kufr.

We wonder if the companions who killed each other thought that what they were doing was lawful or unlawful?

If it was unlawful then they participated in the unlawful in masse.

Second — it is meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah. Hence, kufr ni’ama. Welcome to the Ibadi view.

Third — it leads to disbelief due to its evil consequences. Fourth — it resembles the actions of disbelievers.

Source: (https://www.islamweb.net/ar/library/content/53/242) verify and translate into English.


Summary of Sunni Scholarly Consensus on the above matter.

ScholarAffirmation
Ibn TaymiyyahKufr has levels; “kufr less than kufr” exists; a person can have a branch of kufr while still having faith.
Al-DhahabīSome Companions declared other Companions disbelievers based on interpretation (ta’wīl).
Al-ʿUthaymīnBelievers fighting one another is kufr—but they remain believers.
Al-AlbānīKufr has levels (darajāt); some forms do not eternally condemn to Hell.
Ṣāliḥ Āl al-ShaykhLesser disbelief exists and does not reach major disbelief.
al-Nawawī Meant as ingratitude for blessings and brotherhood in Islam, not as disbelief in Allah

The Sunni Understanding of Qur’anic Reconciliation vindicates the Ibadis

Now we return to the Qur’anic verse that seals this matter.

The Sunnis translate the verse as:

“And if two groups of the believers fight each other…” (Qur’an 49:9)

Allah did not say: “If two groups, one of which has left Islam…” He said: “of the believers.”

Therefore:

StatementImplication
Allah calls fighting groups believersThey have not left the millah of Islam.
The Prophet calls fighting a Muslim kufrThe act is kufr in the lesser sense.
ConclusionKufr in the ḥadīth and in Ibadi usage does not  mean expulsion from Islam.

This term—kufr—was not invented by the Ibadis out of thin air or from their own pockets. These scholars did not invent it. Rather, this term is established and has a basis in the explicit words of the Prophet ﷺ and the explicit text of the Qur’an.

The Prophet said: “Insulting a Muslim is wickedness and fighting him is kufr.” And he also said: “Do not return after me as disbelievers, striking the necks of one another.”

The question is: did the Companions strike one another’s necks? No rational person can deny that this happened during the fitnah.


The Ibadi Doctrinal Framework: Walāyah, Barā’ah, and Wuqūf

Now that we have established the legitimacy of the term kufr in its lesser sense, let us explain the actual Ibadi doctrine—the framework our opponents either do not understand or deliberately misrepresent.

The issues related to the stance on historical events (the Great Fitnah) are among the most intricate topics in Ibadi theology, and they have witnessed significant methodological development while preserving their theoretical foundations.

First: The Three Doctrinal Concepts

These concepts represent a “system of analogy” that defines a Muslim’s relationship with others based on behavior and actions:

Walāyah (Loyalty): This is love for the sake of Allah, and it is obligatory for every Muslim whose outward conduct is in accordance with Allah’s commands. It is of two types: general walāyah (for all believers) and specific walāyah (for those known for their righteousness).

Barā’ah (Disavowal): This is hatred for the sake of Allah, and it is obligatory for anyone who openly commits a major sin, persists in a wrong, or introduces something into the religion that contradicts its fundamental principles (from the perspective of the school of thought). It is not a “curse” or “insult,” but rather a severing of religious allegiance from the action or innovation.

Wuqūf (Suspension): This refers to refraining from judging someone’s loyalty or innocence due to unclear evidence, conflicting reports, or because the person was unaware of the events and not legally obligated to pass judgment on them.

A Detailed Overview of Positions Throughout the Ages

Stage 1: Historical Intensity (1st–4th centuries AH)

Prevailing Position: Innocence of the events and those responsible for them. Early Ibadis did not hold the Companions (as a whole) responsible for the fitnah in a way that condemned them.

Estimated Percentage: 95% innocence. The overwhelming majority of early Ibadi scholars maintained that the Companions (as a whole) were not to be held blameworthy for the civil strife.

Even if we granted a theoretical 5% Allowance for disavowal.The remaining 5% allows for the possibility that some Companions, as human beings, may have committed acts prior to the fitnah that deserved punishment under the Qur’an and Sunnah. This is not a blanket condemnation of any Companion, nor is it specific to the events of the fitnah. Rather, it is an acknowledgment that Companions—like all humans—were not infallible (ma’sūm) and could commit individual sins for which the Qur’an and Sunnah prescribe accountability. This is not unique to Ibadis; Sunni scholars also acknowledge that Companions were not infallible and could commit sins, though they are generally considered righteous overall.

Examples: What is mentioned in the letters of Imam Jābir ibn Zayd (although his letters are characterized by piety) and what biographers have reported about the position of the people of Nahrawān towards ʿUthmān (due to the issue of protected areas and positions) and towards ʿAlī (due to the arbitration).

Logic: The position was directly political and doctrinal. Early Ibadis considered certain actions during the fitnah to be innovations, but they did not translate that into condemning the Companions as individuals. Rather, their barā’ah (disavowal) was directed at the actions and innovations, not at the persons as disbelievers or as having left the millah of Islam.

Stage 2: Establishing and Remaining Silent (5th–13th centuries AH)

Prevailing Stance: Expressions of “remaining silent” began to appear explicitly.

Estimated Ratio: 50% disavowal (in educational texts) and 50% wuqūf (in practical application).

A well-known saying: Imam Abū Saʿīd al-Kadāmī (one of the leading scholars of the 4th century AH) said: “We do not disavow ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib or ʿUthmān ibn ʿAffān unless we have definitive proof that necessitates it, and silence is safer.”

Logic: The principle of “scholarly integrity” began to emerge, whereby statements of disavowal were transmitted as part of the heritage, but remaining silent was practiced out of respect for the status of these Companions.

Contemporary Phase (14th century AH – Present Day)

Prevailing Stance: Remaining silent and accepting (the principle of good faith).

Estimated Percentage: 90% wuqūf and acceptance, 10% disavowal (historical transmission only).

Statements of Scholars:

Shaykh Nūr al-Dīn al-Sālimī: Despite his adherence to the fundamentals, he opened the door to wuqūf for those who were unaware of the fitnah, saying: “You may abstain from judgment regarding the people of the qiblah, for Allah will not question you about what they did.”

His Eminence Shaykh Aḥmad bin Ḥamad al-Khalīlī (Grand Mufti of Oman): He always emphasizes the unity of the Ummah and purity of heart. In his lessons and writings, he prays for mercy upon all the Companions and affirms that historical differences should not divide Muslims today.

The Principle of Purity of Heart: This is the principle adopted by the Ibadi school today, meaning that the contemporary Muslim is not obligated to investigate the bloodshed of the Companions, and it is safer for him to meet Allah with a pure heart towards everyone.

Why Do Classical Texts Continue to Contain Statements of Disavowal?

The continued presence of these statements in books does not necessarily mean they are being implemented today. Rather, it stems from methodological reasons:

  1. Scholarly Integrity: Ibadi scholars consider the books of the early scholars an inheritance that should not be censored or deleted. Instead, it should be transmitted as is, with explanations within its historical context.
  2. Preserving Historical Memory: Transmitting these statements aims to explain why the Ibadis differed from others initially (the political and legal reasons for the revival), not to incite hatred.
  3. Distinguishing Between “Statement” and “Religious Practice”: The statement of disavowal exists “intellectually” in the books as an interpretation by earlier scholars, but wuqūf and acceptance are what are practiced “religiously” and as acts of worship today.

Should One Take a Doctrinal Stance Regarding the People of Nahrawān?

This is a fundamental question within the school of thought, and the answer can be summarized as follows:

The Ibadi position on their predecessors: The Ibadis believe that the people of Nahrawān were “people of righteousness” and that their disavowal of ʿUthmān and ʿAlī was based on a legitimate interpretation of Islamic law, which they considered justified in their time, to protect the core of the faith (as they perceived it).

Are you obligated to disavow them as they did? No. The principle among the Ibadis is: “There is no blame on one who remains neutral.” A contemporary Muslim who refrains from judging ʿUthmān and ʿAlī, while simultaneously respecting the people of Nahrawān as scholars and predecessors, is not considered an “innovator” or “outside the school.”

Conclusion of the Doctrinal Section

There is no religious obligation within the Ibadi school that compels you to disavow any of the Companions today. The required doctrinal stance is loyalty to the believers and hatred of oppressors in general. However, regarding specific historical events, the best and safest course is to remain neutral. (Wuqūf)

Accordingly, the Ibadi approach today is one of unity, not division, whereby the Companions (including ʿUthmān and ʿAlī) are treated with respect as a general virtue, while the interpretations of the early scholars who took strong stances are also respected, and this is considered part of the history of scholarly interpretation that does not preclude present-day harmony.


Kufr in the Ibadi School Does Not Expel from the Millah

Let us state this as clearly as possible:

Kufr in the Ibadi school is not something that takes one out of the millah of Islam.

This is the fundamental distinction that our opponents either cannot grasp or deliberately conceal.

When early Ibadi scholars used the term kufr regarding certain actions during the fitnah, they did not mean:

  • That the person had left the millah of Islam.
  • That their shahādah was invalidated.
  • That they were forever condemned to Hell.

Rather, they meant precisely what Ibn Taymiyyah meant when he wrote “a person may possess a branch of disbelief while also possessing faith” and “kufr less than kufr.” They meant what al-Albānī meant when he wrote “kufr has levels, and some forms do not eternally condemn a person to Hell.”

They meant that the action—fighting a fellow Muslim unjustly, or introducing innovation into the religion—is an act of kufr in the lesser sense: a grave violation that necessitates barā’ah (disavowal) but not the complete negation of faith.

Even in how we understand the word كفر or kufr in Arabic. This ensures us that we have a creed that is based upon the Qur’an, the primary source of Islam, the revelation Allah sent to his Blessed Prophet (saw). Allah (swt) never defined كفر as exit from the religion of Islam. This is concept is theologically superimposed upon the word. The proof of this is evident. In light of the clear text from the Prophetic Sunnah, Sunni scholars have provided an array of understandings and levels concering the word.


Why the Accusation of Taqiyyah for the Ibadi Is False

Our opponents also claim that we, the Ibadis practice taqiyyah—that we conceal our “true” belief that the Companions are disbelievers.

This is false for several reasons:

  1. There is no concealment. We are explaining our doctrine openly in this very article, citing our sources and demonstrating our distinctions.
  2. Wuqūf is not taqiyyah. Taqiyyah is concealing one’s true belief out of fear of harm. Wuqūf is a principled theological position: suspending judgment when evidence is unclear or when the matter does not affect one’s own religious obligation.
  3. The accusation is ironic. Our opponents accuse us of taqiyyah while ignoring that we openly state: “We do not declare the Companions disbelievers in the sense of expulsion from Islam.” What are we supposedly concealing?
  4. The burden of proof is on them. They claim we secretly believe something. But they provide no evidence—only misinterpretation of early texts that they refuse to read in light of their own understanding of Qur’an (49:9) and the distinction between lesser and major kufr.

The Rhetorical Question Our Opponents Cannot Answer

Let us conclude with a question for those who accuse the Ibadis of excommunicating the Companions:

According to their own undersatnding of Qur’an 49:9, when two groups of believers fight each other, are they still believers or not?

They cannot say “no” without contradicting the Qur’an.

And according to your own ḥadīth in Bukhārī and Muslim, fighting a Muslim is kufr. So how do you reconcile the Qur’an calling fighting believers ‘believers’ and the ḥadīth calling fighting ‘kufr’?

The only possible reconciliation is that kufr here does not mean apostasy. It means a lesser kufr, a grave sin, an act of major transgression—but not expulsion from the millah of Islam.

That is exactly what we Ibadis have been saying all along.

This is not meant as a ‘gotcha’ for the Sunnis, but a call for sincere reflection, bridge-building, and moving forward as an Ummah


Final Summary

AccusationReality
“Ibadis declare Companions to be disbelievers (apostates).”Ibadis use kufr in the lesser sense (kufr ni’ma), as affirmed by Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Albānī, al-ʿUthaymīn, and others.
“Ibadis declare companions to be mushrik (polytheist).” Ibadis have not declared a single companion to be a mushrik.
“Ibadis practice taqiyyah to hide their true beliefs.”There is no concealment. Wuqūf (suspension) is a principled theological position, not taqiyyah.
“Ibadis invented the term kufr for Muslims.”The term comes from how Allah defined it in the Qur’an.
“Ibadis are Khawārij who excommunicate Muslims.”Ibadis distinguish themselves from extremist Khawārij precisely by affirming that kufr does not always entail expulsion from the millah.
“Contemporary Ibadis still declare the Companions disbelievers.”The contemporary Ibadi position is overwhelmingly wuqūf and acceptance, with scholars praying for mercy upon all Companions.

Conclusion and Call for Fairness

We Ibadis do not ask anyone to agree with our historical interpretations. We do not ask anyone to adopt our doctrine of barā’ah. What we ask for is fairness—that we be judged by what we actually believe, not by the distorted caricature our opponents present.

We ask that our accusers to read their own understasnding of Qur’an (49:9) and the authentic ḥadīth. We ask that they read their own scholars—Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Dhahabī, al-ʿUthaymīn, al-Albānī—who affirm the very distinctions we make..

We ask that they stop accusing us of taqiyyah when we are explaining our doctrine openly.

If they insist that our definition of kufr means apostasy, they bear the burden of proof is upon the accuser—not us.

“And give full measure when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is the best [way] and best in result.” (Qur’an 17:35)

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Never the Only God: How the Bible Preserves Henotheism and the Qur’an Protects Monotheism

“O People of the Book! Now Our Messenger has come to you, revealing much of what you have hidden of the book and disregarding much. There certainly has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book. through which Allah guides those who seek His pleasure to the ways of peace, brings them out of darkness and into light by His Will, and guides them to the Straight Path. (Qur’an 5:15-16)

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Henotheism is the worship of a single, supreme deity while acknowledging or accepting the existence of other, lesser gods.

Monotheism is the belief in the existence of only one god, or the oneness of God, distinguishing it from polytheism (many gods) and atheism.

The cypher of The Tetragrammaton revealed.

Tetra =4.

Gramma= letter.

Aton (Aten).

The Bible claims that their god used to be called ‘Baal’.

“And in that day, declares the LORD, you will call me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer will you call me ‘My Baal.’ (Hosea 2:16)

Ba’al (בעל) is the most commonly used in modern Hebrew for husband.

“Eluzai, Jerimoth, Bealiah, Shemariah and Shephatiah the Haruphite…” (1 Chronicles 12:5)

Bealiah which means Jehovah is Baal.

However, because the name Baal had become so associated with the Canaanite deity, there becomes a prohibition that commands Israel to stop using that title for Him altogether . This also proves that Israelites were using the same name for their God prior to this prohibition.

Barnes’ notes on the Bible has the following:

“God says, “so wholly do I hate the name of idols, that on account of the likeness of the word Baal, “my Lord,” I will not be so called even in a right meaning, lest, while she utter the one, she should think on the other, and calling Me her Husband, think on the idol.”

Source: (https://biblehub.com/commentaries/hosea/2-16.htm)

Think of it like this. Maybe there was a woman married to a man named Thomas. This woman received a divorce from Thomas. Now this woman is married to you and your name happens to also be Thomas. So, during intimacy, it is possible that you would not want her to call out your name as it could be awkward.

In the Qur’an Allah (swt) has never once been identified with Baal.

In fact, the two are contrasted and never conflated.

“When he said to his people, “Will you not fear Allah ?”Will you call upon Baal and forsake the Best of Creators.” (Qur’an 37:124-125)

The Bible portrays Jesus as a rebelious son who went away from Elyon (God) and sacrificed to Baals and burned incense to images.

Hosea 11:1-2 in context says:

“When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son. But the more they were called, the more they went away from me.They sacrificed to the Baals and they burned incense to images.” (Hosea 11:1-2)

The Qur’an presents clear monotheism.

“Allah! There is no god except Him, the Ever-Living, All-Sustaining.” (Qur’an 2:255)

Say, He Allah is Absolute.
That which is independent of all but which all things are dependent upon.
He does not bring for like kind nor was he from like kind
And there is no equivalent to His being Absolute. (Qur’an 112:1-4)

This powerful surah is absolutely uncompromising.

We need to explain the reasons why we translate the text as we do.

Say, He Allah is Absolute.

We make a crucial distinction that most English translations obscure. Wāḥid appears throughout the Qur’an (e.g., 2:163, 5:73, 14:48) and means “one” in a numerical, countable sense. Aḥad, by contrast, appears in this surah and carries a different weight.

  • Wāḥid = one as opposed to two or more (quantitative oneness)
  • Aḥad = absolute, unique, singular without composition or peer (qualitative oneness)

Our translation of Aḥad as “Absolute” is therefore more precise than “One,” which conflates Aḥad with Wāḥid. The standard “One and Only” tries to bridge this but still leans on number. “Absolute” correctly captures the mode of oneness rather than the count.

On Al-Ṣamad. That which is independent of all but which all things are dependent upon.

Standard translations (“Eternal,” “Absolute,” “Self-Sufficient,” “The Uncaused Cause”) each capture one facet. Our full clause—“That which is independent of all but which all things are dependent upon”—is arguably the most complete English rendering possible. It combines:

  • Negative theology (not dependent on anything)
  • Positive theology (all depend on Him)
  • Causal primacy (uncaused cause)

Implication: This is not a liability but an advantage. It sacrifices brevity (the Arabic Ṣamad is one word) but gains clarity. For a translation intended for study rather than liturgical memorization, this is defensible.

Why we do not render the text as “begets not nor is begotten”. He does not bring for like kind nor was he from like kind.

  • If Allah came from something else (was begotten): He would share a genus with that something else (both would be “things that originated from a prior cause”).
  • If something like Him came from Allah (begets): That something would share a genus with Allah (both would be “beings that produce likenesses”).

Either scenario destroys absoluteness. A truly absolute being has no genus. Genus implies shared properties, limitations, and comparability. An absolute being is sui generis in the literal sense: of its own kind.

Therefore, “does not bring for like kind nor was he from like kind” is theologically superior to “begets not nor is begotten” because:

  • It explicitly targets category membership, not biological process.
  • It avoids the English word “beget,” which confuses modern readers.
  • It closes the door on Neoplatonic emanation (where lower realities come from higher ones “like kind” in a chain of being) as well as Christian Trinitarian generation.

Implication: Our translation is a more universal negation of ontological continuity between Allah and creation than the conventional one. It addresses Christianity, Neoplatonism, certain Hindu cosmologies (e.g., prakriti giving birth to purusha-like realities), and any emanationist or filial model.

And there is no equivalent to His being Absolute.

Absoluteness is a maximal property. If two things were both absolute, each would limit the other’s absoluteness (each would fail to be absolute relative to the other). Absoluteness entails uniqueness necessarily, not accidentally.

Our final line—“no equivalent to his being absolute”—thus correctly implies that the property itself cannot be instantiated in any other subject. The property is self-uniquifying.

It is clear that Islam is monotheistic.

This is unlike the bible where someone could become like the God (Elyon) or like the deities in his assembly.

“And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.(Genesis 3:22-23)

“And the ETERNAL God said, “Now that humankind has become like any of us, knowing good and bad, what if one should stretch out a hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever!” (Genesis 3:22)Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.3.22)

It is interesting that the Jews at Sefaria have translated the text as the Eternal God was worried that Adam may eat from a tree that would give him the property of living forever. This would make him like ‘any of us’.

Paul being the henotheist that he is says:

“For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many; yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.” (1 Corinthians 8:5-6)

“And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled in them that perish: in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them.” (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

Paul concedes that there’s a “god of this world” separate from his god. He acknowledges that there are many gods. He just simply says that for him and his sect, they only worship one god, whom they call, ‘The Father’.

The TNCH or what the Christians call the Old Testament is replete with henotheistic passages. The Children of Israel went through different phases worshipping different gods at different times and even had a massive civil war over the matter.

You will notice when studying that the names of several deities names pop up time and again. These names are often conflated with the various other deities that the Children of Israel worshipped.

Perhaps the most damning evidence is as follows:

“When the Most High gave the nations thier inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. For the Lord’s portion is his people, Jacob his alloted inheritance.” (Deuteronomy 32:8-9)

Source: (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2032%3A8-9&version=NIV)

In the source above there is a note that states:

“Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls (see also Septuagint) sons of God.”

How does the New Revised Standard Version render the reading?

“When the Most High gave the nations thier inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the gods; For the Lord’s portion is his people, Jacob his alloted inheritance.” (Deuteronomy 32:8-9)

Source: (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2032%3A8-9&version=NRSVA)

How did the transition from “bene Elohim” (sons of God) to “bene Yisrael” (sons of Israel) occur in Deuteronomy 32:8? The timing remains unknown. Whether this change took place during the intertestamental period or at the time of the text’s standardization around 100 AD — we simply do not know when it happened. But this much is certain: a scribe altered the text. Someone deliberately replaced “sons of God” with “sons of Israel.” The exact date of this change is unknown, but the fact that it occurred is beyond dispute. We know this because the Masoretic Text contains the altered reading, while the Dead Sea Scrolls preserve the original. And the Dead Sea Scrolls predate the Masoretic text by a full millennium. Israel is not even in existence when the nations are divided!

A scribe removed the three letters you see in green and added the two letters you see in red.

What does this mean?

Elyon was to be the god of Jacob and his people. The sons of Elyon. Or the other gods were to be for the other nations. In other words the main God (Elyon) divided Earth up among regional deities.

We see this in the following text:

 Will you not possess whatever Chemosh your god gives you to possess? So whatever the Lord our God takes possession of before us, we will possess.” (Judges 11:24)

It mentions that Chemosh is the god of the Ammonites, just as Israel has their own god.

“You shall have no other gods before/beside me.” (Exodus 20:3)

“You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,” (Exodus 20:5)

“Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.(Exodus 34:14)

“You shall have no other gods before/beside me.” (Deuteronomy 5:7)

These text are not a denial of other gods or deities. In fact, the above text describe this god as a jealous god.

This understanding of jealousy is a complex, often unpleasant emotion stemming from fear, insecurity, or a perceived threat to a valued relationship or status. It arises when someone feels threatened by a rival.

The way the Bible portrays this jealousy its as if the god of the children of Israel is in a genus. Even though this god acknowledges that he is superior there is a sort of pathological jealousy at play here.

“God(Elyon) stands in the congregation of the mighty; he judges among the gods.” (Pslam 82:1)

This verse indicates a superior deity presiding over lesser beings. A god among gods.

The Qur’an never describes Allah as a god among gods. Rather it negates any other deity except him.

Insh’Allah we will come back to (Pslam 82:1)

There is an interesting connection between Moloch and the god that the Children of Israel worshipped.

“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High, and he blessed Abram, saying, “Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth. And praise be to God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand.Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.” (Genesis 14:18-20)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

  1. Melchizedek is said to be a priest of God Most High, (Elyon). In other words the chief god.
  2. Melchizedek needs to clarify who the (Elyon) Most High is. He is the Creator of heaven and earth.

“The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: ‘You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek'” (Psalm 110:4)

Prima Qur’an Comments:

Notice that this does not identify or equate the priest as Melchizedek but that he would be priest in his order.

“Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.” (Hebrews 7:3)

Whoever wrote the book of Hebrews must have had some access to extra Biblical data about Melchizedek that we do not know about.

What is interesting is the word translated as Melchizedek: Righteous King can easily be translated as Righteous Moloch.

We also have the following interesting text.

Adonizedek, the king of Jerusalem, heard that Joshua had captured and totally destroyed Ai and had killed its king, just as he had done to Jericho and its king. He also heard that the people of Gibeon had made peace with the Israelites and were living among them. The people of Jerusalem were greatly alarmed at this because Gibeon was as large as any of the cities that had a king; it was larger than Ai, and its men were good fighters. So Adonizedek sent the following message to King Hoham of Hebron, King Piram of Jarmuth, King Japhia of Lachish, and to King Debir of Eglon. (Joshua 10:1-3)

Adonizedek is an interesting name. It means Adon is Zedek. Adon (Aton/Aten) is Righteous.

However, it can also mean that Adon is Zedek. My Lord is Zedek.

(Moloch) is a god satiated by human suffering. In particular the sacrifice of innocent children.

He is a god of holocaust. However, anyone who is a Christian will understand a deity who is satiated through the suffering of children, in particular one of his own.

“A divinity worshipped by the idolatrous Israelites. The Hebrew pointing Molech does not represent the original pronunciation of the name, any more than the Greek vocalization Moloch found in the LXX and in the Acts (vii, 43). The primitive title of this god was very probably Melech, “king”, the consonants of which came to be combined through derision with the vowels of the word Bosheth, “shame”. As the word Moloch (A.V. Molech) means king, it is difficult in several places of the Old Testament to determine whether it should be considered as the proper name of a deity or as a simple appellative. The passages of the original text in which the name stands probably for that of a god are Lev., xviii, 21; xx, 2-5; III (A. V. I) Kings, xi, 7; IV (II) Kings, xxiii, 10; Isaiah 30:3357:9Jeremiah 32:35. The chief feature of Moloch’s worship among the Jews seems to have been the sacrifice of children, and the usual expression for describing that sacrifice was “to pass through the fire”, a rite carried out after the victims had been put to death. The special centre of such atrocities was just outside of Jerusalem, at a place called Tophet (probably “place of abomination”), in the valley of Geennom. According to III (I) Kings, xi, 7, Solomon erected “a temple” for Moloch “on the hill over against Jerusalem”, and on this account he is at times considered as the monarch who introduced the impious cult into Israel. After the disruption, traces of Moloch worship appear in both Juda and Israel. The custom of causing one’s children to pass through the fire seems to have been general in the Northern Kingdom [IV (II) Kings, xvii, 17; Ezech. xxiii, 37], and it gradually grew in the Southern, encouraged by the royal example of Achaz (2 Kings 16:3) and Manasses [IV (II) Kings, xvi, 6] till it became prevalent in the time of the prophet Jeremias (Jerem. xxxii, 35), when King Josias suppressed the worship of Moloch and defiled Tophet [IV (II) Kings, xxiii, 13 (10)]. It is not improbable that this worship was revived under Joakim and continued until the Babylonian Captivity.”

Source: (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10443b.htm)

“Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”  When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.” So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry. Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt.  They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’” (Exodus 32:2-8)

Prima Qur’an comments:

  1. Prophet Aaron is claimed to have made an idol in the shape of a calf.
  2. The people also said: These are your gods (plural) that brought you (Israel) out of Egypt.
  3. The god that is speaking to moses reaffirms the above two points. Especially: “These are your gods,Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

Notice the translation is not sure if the word should be gods or god. However, it is clarified in what was said to Moses by the god that spoke to him. The people were claiming gods (plural) brought them out of Egypt.

Is it not very odd that it is claimed a prophet and servant of the One True God who witnessed miracles would so quickly go and do something like this in the absence of his brother (Moses)?

No one seems to the object to the idea that gods (not god) brought them out of Egypt.

During the civil war of Israel the following happened.

“After seeking advice, the king made two golden calves. He said to the people, “It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem. Here are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”  One he set up in Bethel, and the other in Dan. And this thing became a sin; the people came to worship the one at Bethel and went as far as Dan to worship the other.” (1 Kings 12:28-30)

Jewish Rabbis have debates about what type of worship of Molech is acceptable and what is not.

The Mishnah (Sanhedrin 64a):

“HE WHO GIVES OF HIS SEED TO MOLECH INCURS NO PUNISHMENT UNLESS HE DELIVERS IT TO MOLECH AND CAUSES IT TO PASS THROUGH THE FIRE. IF HE GAVE IT TO MOLECH BUT DID NOT CAUSE IT TO PASS THROUGH THE FIRE, OR THE REVERSE, HE INCURS NO PENALTY, UNLESS HE DOES BOTH.”

Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/English_Explanation_of_Mishnah_Sanhedrin.7.7.2?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en)

Observation: The rabbis are parsing the precise act that constitutes a capital offense. Both elements are required: (1) delivering to Molech’s priests, and (2) causing the child to pass through fire.

The Gemara Discussion:

“R. Abin said: Our Mishnah is in accordance with the view that Molech worship is not idolatry. For it has been taught, whether to Molech or to any other idol he is liable. R. Eleazar son of R. Simeon said: If to Molech, he is liable; if to another idol, he is not.”

This is striking. Some rabbis consider Molech worship not to be idolatry — or at least different in kind from other idol worship. Why?

“R. Hanina b. Antigonus said: Why did the Torah employ the word Molech? To teach that the same law applies to whatever they proclaimed as their king, even a pebble or a splinter.”

Molech is not necessarily a specific deity — it is any deity to whom one transfers sovereignty (“king”) over oneself. The rabbis are working hard to define the boundary.

The Critical Question the Rabbis Are Avoiding

If a Jew offered his child as a burnt offering to Yahweh, would that be permitted?

The rabbis do not address this directly. But their silence is telling.

Jephthah in Rabbinic Literature:

The Talmud (Ta’anit 4a) and later rabbinic commentary do address Jephthah — and they are highly critical of him. The general rabbinic view is that Jephthah should have sought to annul his vow through a sage, and that his failure to do so resulted in tragedy. Some rabbis even say he was punished for his foolishness (losing parts of his body, dying unnaturally).

However — and this is crucial — the rabbis never say that what Jephthah did was inherently impossible or categorically forbidden. They criticize his failure to seek annulment, not the act of human sacrifice itself. They also note that his daughter (like Isaac) was willing.

The Nakdimon Connection

One of the most revealing texts appears in the Babylonian Talmud (Nedarim 37a) and is cited in the Soncino commentary on Sanhedrin 64a. Rabbi Dr. Freedman, the translator, notes:

“The offering of children to Molech was not regarded as ordinary idolatry, but as a distinct offence. One reason is that it involved the destruction of one’s seed — an act of cruelty which even pagans normally did not practice. Another is that it was sometimes done in the name of the Lord, as in the case of Jephthah.”

Read that again: “It was sometimes done in the name of the Lord, as in the case of Jephthah.”

The rabbis knew that child sacrifice had been performed in Israel in the name of Yahweh. They were not condemning the practice universally — they were trying to regulate it, to distinguish between “legitimate” (Yahwistic) and “illegitimate” (pagan) contexts.

There is an entire discussion about it here:

https://come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_64.html#64a_20

The god of Israel (Yahweh) is apparently satiated by human suffering. In particular the sacrifice of innocent children.


In (2 Samuel 21), David is king over Judah. A famine oppresses the land; King David learns that LORD God is punishing Israel for King Saul’s sin (Saul attacked the Gibeonites in violation of Joshua’s treaty (Joshua 9:15). Therefore, in order to relieve the famine, David must appease the Gibeonites. On negotiation, the Gibeonites demand to be given seven descendants of Saul to be hanged “unto the LORD.” David picks two of Saul’s sons and five of Saul’s grandsons. Coincidentally, the five grandsons are the children of Michal, the woman David had wanted to marry (see 1 Samuel 18:25). David gives these Israelites to the Gibeonites so the Gibeonites can hang them.

“Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.
And the king called the Gibeonites, and said unto them; (now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; and the children of Israel had sworn unto them: and Saul sought to slay them in his zeal to the children of Israel and Judah.) Wherefore David said unto the Gibeonites, What shall I do for you? and wherewith shall I make the atonement, that ye may bless the inheritance of the LORD? And the Gibeonites said unto him, We will have no silver nor gold of Saul, nor of his house; neither for us shalt thou kill any man in Israel. And he said, What ye shall say, that will I do for you. And they answered the king, The man that consumed us, and that devised against us that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the coasts of Israel, Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD did choose. And the king said, I will give them. But the king spared Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan the son of Saul, because of the LORD’s oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite: And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the LORD: and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.” Source: (2 Samuel 21:1-11)

Prima Qur’an Comments: The God (Elyon) did not explicitly request the hangings. But The God (Elyon) imposed an insufferable famine on the Israelites, The God (Elyon) named the Gibeonites as the people to be appeased, and the Gibeonites named the penalty. When it was done, The God (Elyon) apparently found the human sacrifice to be satisfactory: the chapter continues with accounts of battles, and the famine is not mentioned further. This sequence — an angry god causes a natural disaster, innocent life is slain to appease the god’s anger, and the hardship ceases — this is the same sequence of events found in the human sacrifice rites of other primitive religions.

The God (Elyon) of the Bible did not stop Jephthah from burning his small daughter if the God (Elyon)gave him victory over his enemies.

“Then the Spirit of the Lord came on Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.” Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon. When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.” “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.” “You may go,” He said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin. (Judges 11:29-39)

Prima Qur’an Comments: Now there is major major copium from Christians and Jews regarding this.

Copium # 1. They try and put a spin that the sacrifice is to dedicate his daughter to the Lord as a virgin (meaning temple service) and Jephthah bemoaned that due this he would never have any descendants.
Response: and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering & After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed The emphasis on her being a virgin is so she would be an unblemished sacrificed.

Copium #2. The God (Elyon) commands against sacrificing Children in the Bible.

Response. No, no he doesn’t!

“You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord.” (Leviticus 18:21)

“I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name.” (Leviticus 20:3)

“You shall not behave thus toward the Lord your God, for every abominable act which the Lord hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.” (Deuteronomy 12:31)

As well as the related practice of passing the children through the fire and not consuming them by the fire:

“There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer.” (Deuteronomy 18:10)

“You shall also say to the sons of Israel: ‘Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones.” (Leviticus 20:2)

Offering your children up as a burnt offering is not against the Torah teachings of the Jews. Nor was it something unacceptable to God. The offence in question was offering them up to Molech and NOT THE GOD (ELYON) OF ISRAEL!

“For I the Lord your God am a jealous God.” (Daniel 5:9)

This god that they worshipped is not against sacrifice or burnt offerings as we have already shown above. Their god

There is no issue with offering up children as a holocaust (burnt offering) to their god. The issue is doing it to false gods.

“They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.” (Jeremiah 32:35)

Because the Elyon, The High God of the Bible is jealous.

Did we forget?

“After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” (Genesis 22:1-2)

The Angel of the Lord as Satan and one of the gods among gods in the Bible.

In the Hebrew Bible, ha-satan (הַשָּׂטָן) is not a proper name but a title: “the Adversary” or “the Accuser” . This figure appears in the divine council — the assembly of elohim (divine beings) over which Elyon presides as supreme. Ha-Satan is not a rival god or a fallen angel — he is a subordinate being within Elyon’s administration. As one scholar puts it: “The Satan is a member of the divine council, serving as a sort of prosecutor or royal spy” (Peggy L. Day, An Adversary in Heaven).

“I was further shown Joshua, the high priest, standing before the angel of GOD, and the Accuser (Satan) standing at his right to accuse him. But [the angel of] GOD said to the Accuser (Satan), “GOD rebukes you, O Accuser; GOD who has chosen Jerusalem rebukes you! For this is a brand plucked from the fire.”

Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/Zechariah.3?lang=bi (Zechariah 3:2)

Here you have Ha-Satan standing at the right hand of the Angel of the LORD to accuse Joshua the high priest. Elyon (the Most High God) rebukes Ha-Satan.

“One day the divine beings presented themselves before GOD. The Adversary came along with them to present himself before GOD. GOD said to the Adversary, “Where have you been?” The Adversary answered GOD, “I have been roaming all over the earth.” GOD said to the Adversary, “Have you noticed My servant Job? There is no one like him on earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and shuns evil. He still keeps his integrity; so you have incited Me against him to destroy him for no good reason. The Adversary answered GOD, “Skin for skin—all that the man has he will give up for his life. But lay a hand on his bones and his flesh, and he will surely blaspheme You to Your face.” So GOD said to the Adversary, “See, he is in your power; only spare his life.”The Adversary departed from GOD’s presence and inflicted a severe inflammation on Job from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.”

Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/Job.1.22?lang=bi (Job 2:1-7)

Here you have Ha-Satan appearing among the bene ha-elohim (sons of God) and acting as a prosecuting attorney, testing Job’s righteousness with Elyon’s permission. He is not an enemy of Elyon but a member of His court.

 The Angel of the LORD as a Satan in Numbers 22

This is a fascinating and often overlooked passage.

The Narrative: Balaam is hired by Balak of Moab to curse Israel. He consults God (Elyon) who tells him not to go. Balak sends more prestigious messengers; Balaam asks again; God (Elyon)permits him to go but with conditions. On the way:

“But God’s anger was kindled because he went, and the Angel of the LORD stationed himself in the road as an adversary (satan) against him.” (Numbers 22:22)

Analysis:

  • The Hebrew word used for “adversary” is precisely לְשָׂטָן (l’satan) — “as a satan.”
  • The Angel of the LORD — generally understood as a manifestation of God (Elyon) Himself (since the Angel speaks as God and is worshipped as God elsewhere) — functions as an obstructor or adversary to Balaam.
  • This same Angel later permits Balaam to continue (Numbers 22:35).

What this means: God (Elyon)through His Angel) acts as both a guide and an adversary. The same being who permits Balaam to go also stands in his way as a satan. This shows that the role of “adversary” is not a separate being but a function that even God(Elyon) can perform.

As one commentary notes: The Angel of the LORD acts as Balaam’s ‘adversary’ (satan)… This is the only place in the Old Testament where the Angel of the LORD is explicitly called a satan” (Gordon Wenham, Numbers).

“O Lord, you have deceived me, and I was deceived; you are stronger than I, and you have prevailed.” (Jeremiah 20:7)

Henotheism is the worship of one primary deity while accepting the existence of other gods within a pantheon. It is sort of a pantheon.  As a middle ground between polytheism and monotheism, it allows followers to focus devotion on a single “king god”—such as Zeus, Odin, or in some forms of Hinduism—while recognizing other divine beings.

This is why we can have text like the following:

Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)

“Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1)

This would seem to be a contradiction but when we realize that they are basically one and the same it makes sense from a henotheistic worldview.

The biblical divine council — with its bene ha-elohimha-satan as prosecutor, and the Angel of the LORD as a distinct yet divine figure — is not compatible with Islamic tawhid (radical monotheism). Whether the figure in question is called Baal, Molech, Yahweh, or Ha-Satan, the Qur’an would reject any theology that places other divine beings beside Allah.

Qur’an Surah 112 has been shown to absolutely demolish this framework.

Yahweh seems to be a sort of tribal war deity or war angel as presented in the TNCH. The part of the Bible the Christians call: ‘The Old Testament.’

The term Tzva’ot refers to armies or hosts. (Hebrew: Yahweh Tzva’ot) is a divine title in the Bible appearing over 200 times, primarily in the Old Testament, designating Yahweh as the god over all heavenly and earthly armies.

Yahweh of Armies is with us. The God of Jacob is our refuge. “ (Pslam 46:7)

“Each year Elkanah would travel to Shiloh to worship and sacrifice to the LORD of Heaven’s Armies at the Tabernacle. The priests of the LORD at that time were the two sons of Eli—Hophni and Phinehas.” (1 Samuel 1:3)

The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.” (Exodus 15:3)

You even have henotheistic views put in the mouth of the One True God’s Prophets!

“Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God (τὸν μόνον ἀληθινὸν Θεόν), and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3)

Here he could have simply said “only God.” By adding “true” (ἀληθινός), he leaves open the possibility that other beings exist who could be called “gods” (elohim) — but they are not the true God.

The Jehovah’s Witness have translated John 1:1 as:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (John 1:1)

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/bible-verses/john-1-1/

Source: (https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/bible-verses/john-1-1/)

They make Moses say the following:

“Who among the gods is like you, Lord?” (Exodus 15:11)

“For the Lord is the great God, the great King above all gods.” (Pslam 95:3)

“All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols—Worship him, all you gods!” (Psalm 97:7)

“For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.” (Deuteronomy 10:17)

This is far from monotheism. This is far from what is presented in the Qur’an.

Is it little wonder we those socities that succumb to these beliefs ridden with demonic forces? Even the innocent among them they have no idea what they are even worshipping! May Allah Guide these people to the truth before the burn in hellfire.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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“Those to whom we gave the Book know it as they know their children, but a group of them knowingly hide the truth”- Qur’an 2:146

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“And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.”(Qur’an 5:83)

Pope John Paul Kissing the Qur’an.

“In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.” -POPE PAUL VI

Source: (https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html)

“You are the best nation that ever existed among humanity. You command people to good and prohibit them from evil, and you believe in Allah. Had the People of the Book accepted the faith (Islam), it would certainly have been better for them. Some of them have faith, but most of them are evil doers.” (Qur’an 3:110)

In the future all such articles concerning Christianity will go under the heading Jews and Christians here:

First and foremost any Muslim engaging with Christians should understand that those whom identify as Christians have a wide range of different beliefs. We have seen too often Muslims engage with Christians and assume their beliefs. This is akin to a Christian thinking that an Ayatollah from Iran or a Shaykh from Saudi Arabia speaks on behalf of all Muslims.

For example even our dear brother Paul Williams (whom we consider to be one of the more read Muslims on Christianity and Christian theology in general, made a post on his X (Twitter) timeline that show cases a massive blunder in regard to what is called: ‘Christianity.’

That being said: Blogging Theology is still the best YouTube channel in English that one will find in my opinion.

For example the Eastern Orthodox Christians do not believe that we bear the sin of Adam rather we bear the consequences of that sin. It is a nuanced position.

Another massive and influential Protestant denomination, the Church of Christ (called Campbellites) by their opponents do not hold that infants are sinless and incapable of making free will decisions to sin.

There are key but major doctrinal differences between Eastern Orthodox and Church of Christ (Campbellites) on this matter as well. With Eastern Orthodox believing original sin corrupts human nature this leads to a deposition towards sin. Whereas the Church of Christ (called Campbellites) They reject original sin altogether, believing that each individual is responsible for their own sins. Adam’s sin affects himself and not future generations.

So brother Paul’s statement paints a very broad brush of Christianity, one which we as Muslims would not want done with us.

Not all Christians believe in a Trinity, and those that do have greatly different takes on it, some viewing others as heretical. They do not all agree on the nature of Christ Jesus, rather or not he has one nature, two natures, they do not even agree on a set number of New Testament books. They have New Testament canons that range from 22 books, 27 books and even 35 books!

“And with those who say, We are Christians (nasara), We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.” (Qur’an 5:14)

The above verse acknowledges that there are whole factions under the umbrella terminology ‘Nasara’ . That these factions clash with one another. Therefore, it is foolhardy to think that the term ‘Nasara’ is a blanket term to refer to all those who call themselves Christians. It can refer to those who were faithful before the breaking of the covenant as well as those who came after.

Some Christians object to certain verses of the Qur’an saying: This is not what we believe. They seem to have forgotten that one person’s orthodoxy is another person’s heterodoxy. This is what the Qur’an acknowledges. There can only be hatred and enmity between those who have sharp and irreconcilable differences among them.

We hope that the students and researchers of comparative religion find the following articles helpful!

GENESIS CHAPTER 3 SEPARATES ISLAM AND CHRISTIAINITY

THE WAY OF LIFE THAT EXISTED BEFORE CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM

THE DEATH KNELL OF CHRISTIANITY

ARE CHRISTIANS TRULY ASSURED AND CERTAIN OF THIER SALVATION? CHRISTIANS CANNOT CLAIM THAT THEY ARE IN WALAYAH AL HAQIQAH WITH ALLAH

THE DEGENERATE AND DISGRACED CHRISTIANS WHO ATTACKED ISLAM AND MUSLIMS

SHOULD MUSLIMS DEBATE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS?

THERE IS NO HATE QUITE LIKE CHRISTIAN LOVE

THE PLACE OF MIRACLES IN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY

THE MISSION OF JESUS: TO WHOM WAS HE SENT?

ARE PROPHETS JESUS & MUHAMMED FORETOLD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?

https://primaquran.com/2024/01/14/are-prophets-jesus-muhammed-foretold-in-the-old-testament/

AHMAD IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?

https://primaquran.com/2024/01/09/ahmad-in-the-new-testament/

THE NATURE OF GOD. THE NATURE OF JESUS. THE VARIOUS TRINITY DOCTRINES. THE ALLEGED DEITY OF CHRIST JESUS.

THE ANTHROPOMORPHIC GOD OF THE BIBLE.

ADOPTIONIST THEOLOGY: HOW DID JESUS BECOME THE SON OF GOD?

IS CHRIST JESUS GOD?

DISHONEST CHRISTIAN CLAIMS THE QUR’AN TEACHES THAT JESUS IS GOD.

TEXT THAT CLEARLY SHOW JESUS IS NOT GOD AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HUMAN REPRODUCTION.

WHY JESUS IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD.

DOES THE QUR’AN INACCURATELY DESCRIBE ‘THE’ TRINITY?

https://primaquran.com/2024/06/29/does-the-quran-inaccurately-describe-the-trinity/

JESUS FORESKIN, BABY TEETH and UMBILICAL CORD: THE MIAPHYSIS and DYOPHYSIS CONTROVERSY.

https://primaquran.com/2024/11/11/jesus-foreskin-baby-teeth-and-umbilical-cord-the-miaphysis-and-dyophysis-controversy/

JESUS THE GOD/MAN ?

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/jesus-the-god-man/

DOES THE BIBLICAL TEXT ASSERT TWO INCARNATIONS?

FORGIVING SINS: DOES THIS MAKE JESUS GOD?

THE LIKNESS OF JESUS IS LIKE ADAM.

CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS DECEIFTUL OVER THE WORD ‘WORSHIP’?

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/christians-scholars-deceitful-over-the-word-worship/

SHOULD MUSLIMS STOP USING MARK 13:32 AGAINST CHRISTIANS?

https://primaquran.com/2024/11/21/should-muslims-stop-using-mark-1332-against-christians/

WHAT HAS YOUR GOD DONE FOR YOU?

I DON’T HAVE A RELIGION! I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST! I AM A SON OF GOD!

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/i-dont-have-a-religion-i-have-a-relationship-with-christ-i-am-a-son-of-god/

MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH CONCEPTS OF THE AFTERLIFE.

THE CHRISTIAN HEAVEN AND ISLAMIC HEAVEN: VIRGINS, VIOLENCE AND COUP D’ETAT!

DOES THE CHRISTIAN HEAVEN HAVE A PLACE FOR WOMEN?

PAUL: THE ANTI CHRIST

THE FALSE PROPHECIES OF JESUS.

A CHRISTIAN DILEMMA: WHY WOULD JESUS BE SILENT ABOUT THE RISE OF ISLAM?

HOW DO CHRISTIANS DEAL WITH THOSE WHOM THE GOSPEL NEVER REACHED?

https://primaquran.com/2024/07/19/how-do-christians-deal-with-the-ahl-al-fatrah/

WOULD THEY DIE FOR A LIE? A POPULAR CHRISTIAN ARGUMENT.

https://primaquran.com/2017/11/09/would-they-die-for-a-lie-a-popular-christian-argument/

CHRISTIAN EVANGELIST ADMITS ALLAH IS GOD

https://primaquran.com/2018/05/05/christian-evangelist-admits-allah-is-god/

ALL ARITCLES ON RATHER OR NOT THE BIBLE IS THE AUTHENTIC WORD OF GOD.

THE SO CALLED ISLAMIC DILEMMA: LET THE PEOPLE OF THE GOSPEL JUDGE. WHERE IS THE INJEEL?

WHY IS THE INJEEL FROM GREEK?

IS THE BIBLE THE (UNADULTERATED) WORD OF GOD?

THE QUR’AN CHARGES ORAL CORRUPTION OF THE PREVIOUS REVELATIONS.

DOES THE QUR’AN TEACH THAT THE BIBLE WAS CORRUPTED?

NOTHING CAN CHANGE THE WORDS OF ALLAH.

BETWEEN THE HANDS OR HAVING AUTHORITY OVER (MA BAYNA YADAYHI)

KNOWING OUR THEOLOGY: THE ENCOUNTER BETWEEN HABIB ALI AL JIFRI AND MIROSLAV VOLF

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/knowing-our-theology-the-encounter-between-habib-ali-al-jifri-and-miroslav-volf/

A MESSAGE TO JEHOVAH WITNESSSES.

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/a-message-to-jehovah-witnesses/

BIBLE COMMANDS CHRISTIANS TO PAY JIZYAH TAX

THE THIRD COMING OF JESUS?

GENERAL CHRISTIAN POLEMIC AGAINST ISLAM ANSWERED

DO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS RANSON MUSLIMS FROM HELLFIRE?

https://primaquran.com/2024/11/19/do-jews-and-christians-ransom-muslims-from-hellfire/

GIVING ANSWER TO CHRISTIAN POLEMICS WHOM DISPARAGE THE CHARACHTER OF THE BLESSED PROPHET (SAW)

https://primaquran.com/2019/08/29/giving-answer-to-christian-polemics-whom-disparage-the-character-of-the-prophet/

CHRISTIAN POLEMIC AGAINST ISLAM BACIRES AND TESTIFIES TO THE VERACITY OF THE QUR’AN!

https://primaquran.com/2024/10/23/christian-polemic-against-islam-backfires/

THE SO CALLED: SATANIC VERSES (QISSA GHARANIQ-THE STORY OF INTERMEDIARY CRANES)

https://primaquran.com/2024/10/26/the-so-called-satanic-verses-qissa-gharaniq-the-story-of-intermediary-cranes/

CLAIMS OF APOCRYPHAL SOURCES IN THE QUR’AN?

https://primaquran.com/2024/04/12/claims-of-apocryphal-sources-in-the-quran/

THE WISDOM OF THE BLESSED PROPHET (SAW) MARRYING ZAYNAB (RA)

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/the-wisdom-of-the-blessed-prophet-marrying-zaynab/

ALL ARTICLES IN RELATION TO THE SO CALLED CRUCIFIXION AND EVEN IF THE QUR’AN ADDRESSES THE SO CALLED CRUCIFIXION.

THE QUESTION OF THE HISTORICAL CRUCIFIXION AND THE MARTYDOM OF JESUS.

WHY DIDN’T THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS KNOW THIS?

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/why-didnt-they-know/

CRUCIFIED OR IMPALED? UNDERSTANDING QUR’AN 4:157

THE JEWS DON’T CRUCIFY PEOPLE. GREAT EXCHANGE WITH RABBI DOV STEIN.

A CHRISTIAN DILEMMA & HOW MIGHT JESUS HAVE DIED?

JESUS WAS NOT CRUCIFIED: THE EVIDENCE WITH DR. ALI ATAIE.

THE NON-CRUCIFIXION VERSE BY DR. LOUAY FATOOHI: A RESPONSE.

Future articles Allah-willing.

Is the Holy Spirit God?

Christian Dominionism: The Violent take it by force.

Subordinationism.

Gregory Palamas and his errors on Islam.

May Allah (swt) guide the sincere Christians to Islam. May Allah (swt) guide them so that they may find peace in this life and the life to come. May Allah (swt) guide the sincere Christians to Islam and save them from the punishment of the hellfire.

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