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The Jews Don’t Crucify People. Great exchange with Rabbi Dov Stein.

And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.” (Qur’an 4:157)

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Al hamdulillah. All praise be to Allah (swt) for the right guidance. Whomever Allah guides no no one can misguide them. Whomever Allah allows to stray no one can guide them.

Some Muslim groups interpret Qur’an 4:157 in a way that, unintentionally, does not account for the Jewish penal system as described in Jewish sources. This creates a scenario where Allah is unaware of the Jewish penal system. This is not acceptable. Our different reading of the verse resolves this.

Among such groups are basically, the entirety of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah, the Ahmadiyyah/Qadiyani movement as well as the later Ismaili Nizari.

Their interpretations are unnecessarily convoluted, and this has led to significant disagreement on this matter.

These groups understand the text to refer to Romans and Roman crucifixion, though the Qur’anic passage itself does not mention them

The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from the heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us Allah outright,” so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We pardoned that. And We gave Moses a clear authority. (Qur’an 4:153)

And We cursed them for their breaking of the covenant and their ingratitude towards the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets* without right and their saying, “Our hearts are wrapped”. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their ingratitude, so they believe not, except for a few. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge. (Qur’an 4:155-156)

* killing their prophets without right

* Sources: (2 Chronicles 24:20-21 & Jeremiah 26:20-23 & 1 Kings 18:4 & 1 Kings 19:9-10)

The above text certainly is not talking about Christians at all!

There are no records of Christians killing their prophets. The only Prophets of the Christians are Yahya (John) & Esau (Jesus).

Also, Christians would never utter against Mary a false charge. In the sense of saying saying demeaning of her (Allah has honoured her in this life and in the life to come!)

Read the Qur’an dear brothers and sisters.

Read it from Qur’an 4:153-157.

Now just on reading that text alone where are the Ahmadiyyah/Qadiyani/ The Ismail-Nizari, and the entirety of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah conjuring up Romans from?

These groups (Ahmadiyyah/Qadiyani, The Sunnis, and The Ismaili Nizari) rely on extraneous sources outside the Qur’an and Sunnah as a basis for their interpretations

The Arabic word for Romans is not something unfamiliar to the Qur’an.

“The Romans have been defeated.” (Qur’an 30:2) غُلِبَتِ ٱلرُّومُ ghulibati l-rūm

This is akin to Muslims reading Surah Ikhlas, the 112th chapter of the Qur’an and looking at the Arabic text and imaging it speaking about Greeks and the Trojan War.

This would seem quite far-fetched to many sober minded Muslims.

Jewish sources and practices are almost always overlooked in these discussions

Imagine Christians and Jews debating about an issue concerning Muslims and Muslims were not even invited to the table?! It would be quite rude. However, this happens with the Jews and Judaism by us Muslims virtually all…..the…..time!

So we reached out to chabad.org and wethought we would ask practicing Jews what Jews believe. Who would have thought? Such a novel concept right? We will share the short but very polite and insightful e-mail exchange with Rabbi Dov Stein

Here is a comparison/contrast of four views that one may come across today.

  1. Traditionally Sunni view.
  2. Modern Sunni view that adopted the Ahmadiyyah/Qadiani view.
  3. The Ahmadiyyah/Qadiani view.
  4. The Ismail Nizari/Todd Lawson view.

All four of the above views have the following in common.

  1. All four posit (without any evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah) that Qur’an 4:153-157 is some how speaking about Romans.
  2. All four posit (without any evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah) that Qur’an 4:153-157 is speaking about a Roman Crucifixion via a Patibulum(Cross).
  3. All four get the basis for their views from Isrā’īliyyāt material.
  4. All four use this Isrā’īliyyāt material to impose a view upon the Qur’anic text.
  5. All four posit a a Roman Crucifixion via a Patibulum (Cross) as historical reality with them differing on rather or not Jesus was placed on a Patibulum (Cross) or not. Rather he was killed on a Patibulum (Cross) or not.

Imami Shi’a tradition.

Want to know who does not speak about Qur’an 4:157?

The following:

Muhammed al Baqir. al-Hasan al-‘Askari. Furat ibn Ibrahim al-Kufi. ali ibn Ibrahim-al-Qummi & Muhammed ibn Mas’ud al-Ayyashi.

“Of some interest is also the fact that there is not even any mention of the verse (Qur’an 4:157) in the voluminous collection of Shi’i traditions, Usul al-Kafi, complied by the Twelver scholar al-Kulayni. Indeed, it is not until the first major tafsir work of Twelver Shi’ism by Abu Ja’far al-Tusi that the problem is broached at all.”

Source: (The Crucifixion and the Qur’an pg. 75 Todd Lawson)

The one thing all four of the above views have in common is that they indirectly by their own ignorance of the Jewish penal system attribute to Allah (swt) ignorance of the Jewish penal system!

Insh’Allah will explain how and why that is the case.

So, We had sent an e-mail to Chabad.org and we received a very cordial and swift reply.

Capital punishment in Judaism does not involve crucifixion.

This is very important admission by the respected Rabbi because lays to bed the idea that Jews crucify people. It is simply not part of their penal system.

Our, the Ibadi view is a very simple plain reading of the text. We let the text stand on it’s own without it being interpreted in light of the Isrā’īliyyāt material.

What is that simple conclusion? The very simple basic conclusion for anyone who has even a modicum of Arabic reading comprehension skills is that Qur’an 4:153-157 is speaking about a group of the Jews from the Children of Israel.

The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from the heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us Allah outright,” so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We pardoned that. And We gave Moses a clear authority. (Qur’an 4:153)

  1. “But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us Allah outright,” This neither refers to Christians or to Romans.
  2. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them. This neither refers to Christians or to Romans.

And We cursed them for their breaking of the covenant and their ingratitude towards the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, “Our hearts are wrapped”. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their ingratitude, so they believe not, except for a few. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge. (Qur’an 4:155-156)

  1. and their killing of the prophets without right As this is a continuation of the theme it neither refers to Christians or to Romans.
  2. that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge. This neither refers to Christians or to Romans.

And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.” (Qur’an 4:157)

So let us explore the key passage of this text:

“Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him.”

  1. It cannot refer to Christians. Christians would not kill Jesus. Nor would they make a claim that ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary.’
  2. It cannot refer to Romans simply because the passage does not say so. There is no Arabic word for Romans anywhere in the text.
  3. The whole theme of Qur’an 4:153-157 is speaking about a group of Jews from the Children of Israel.

So it should be beyond evident that Qur’an 4:153-157 is not addressing Romans nor Christians.

So now let us look at another key text:

“And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)”

So virtually everyone translates the text as

“They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him.”

https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/4/157/

Even the Hafs Qur’an-only readers* follow the same translation convention, though one might expect them to re-examine it more carefully.

* Refers to (those who platform a Qur’an only approach)

So let’s go with that for a moment. “nor did they crucify him.”

We have already established that the context of Qur’an 4:153-157 is speaking about a group of Jews from the children of Israel.

So now Qur’an 4:153-157 is reupdating the claims of this group of Jews with:

And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they crucify him.”

However, the good Rabbi has informed us:

Capital punishment in Judaism does not involve crucifixion.

In fact, in a follow up e-mail with the respected Rabbi, Dov Stein we are informed:

“as they are hung after being executed.”

“where the body was positioned after stoning.”

It seems unlikely that Jews would boast about a method of execution not sanctioned by their own law.

“Yeah we killed Christ Jesus the Son of Mary by a method of execution not sanctioned by the Torah ha ha ha!”

Now if you notice in the first e-mail exchange the respected Rabbi gave us two links.

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961590/jewish/Positive-Commandment-230.htm

Look at the footnotes from the above link.

“I.e. after they have been executed, they are hung publicly. The person is hung up just before sunset and taken down immediately thereafter. See Hilchos Sanhedrin 15:6-7.”

The Rabbi also gave me this link: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1172738/jewish/Sanhedrin-vehaOnashin-haMesurin-lahem-Chapter-15.htm

It is a positive commandment to hang a blasphemer and an idolater after they have been executed, as implied by Deuteronomy 21:23: “A person who is hung is cursing God.” This refers to the blasphemer. With regard to an idolater, Numbers 15:30 states: “He blasphemes God.”

A man is hung, but a woman is not hung, as implied by Deuteronomy 21:22: “When a man has sinned and is condemned to die, after he is executed, you shall hang him….”ו

מִצְוַת עֲשֵׂה לִתְלוֹת אֶת הַמְגַדֵּף וְעוֹבֵד עַכּוּ”ם שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (דברים כא כג) “כִּי קִלְלַת אֱלֹהִים תָּלוּי” הֲרֵי מְגַדֵּף אָמוּר וּבְעוֹבֵד עַכּוּ”ם נֶאֱמַר (במדבר טו ל) “אֶת ה’ הוּא מְגַדֵּף”. וְהָאִישׁ נִתְלֶה וְאֵין הָאִשָּׁה נִתְלֵית שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (דברים כא כב) “כִּי יִהְיֶה בְאִישׁ חֵטְא מִשְׁפַּט מָוֶת וְהוּמָת וְתָלִיתָ אֹתוֹ”:

How is the mitzvah of hanging carried out? After the convicted is stoned, a beam is implanted in the ground with a rafter protruding from it. The two hands of the corpse are intercrossed and he is hung close to sunset.

He is released immediately. If not, a negative commandment is transgressed, as Ibid.:23 states: “Do not let his corpse tarry overnight on the beam.”

כֵּיצַד מִצְוַת הַנִּתְלִין. אַחַר שֶׁסּוֹקְלִין אוֹתָן מְשַׁקְּעִין אֶת הַקּוֹרָה בָּאָרֶץ וְעֵץ יוֹצֵא מִמֶּנָּה וּמַקִּיפִין שְׁתֵּי יָדָיו זוֹ לָזוֹ וְתוֹלֵהוּ סָמוּךְ לִשְׁקִיעַת הַחַמָּה וּמַתִּירִין אוֹתוֹ מִיָּד. וְאִם לָן עוֹבְרִין עָלָיו בְּלֹא תַּעֲשֶׂה שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (דברים כא כג) “לֹא תָלִין נִבְלָתוֹ עַל הָעֵץ”:

Now the commentary that you have seen above is by the legendary Rabbi, Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides). That commentary was on the following text of the Torah:  

“If any party is guilty of a capital offense and is put to death, and you impale the body on a stake, you must not let the corpse remain on the stake overnight, but must bury it the same day. For an impaled body is an affront to God: you shall not defile the land that your God יהוה is giving you to possess.”

Source: (https://www.sefaria.org/Deuteronomy.21.23)

“If a man commits a sin for which he is sentenced to death, and he is put to death, you shall [then] hang him on a pole. But you shall not leave his body on the pole overnight. Rather, you shall bury him on that [same] day, for a hanging [human corpse] is a blasphemy of God, and you shall not defile your land, which the Lord, your God, is giving you as an inheritance.”

Source: (https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9985)

Now is there anything with in the sacred sources of the Jews that the Qur’an may be refuting or interacting with?

“At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.” (John 8:59)

“Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
(John 10:31-32)

“But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!” (Qur’an 61:6)

Recall that the Qur’an mentions a double denial or a double negation.

Simply stating: They didn’t kill him would be sufficient. It covers every mode or method of death known to mankind.

Yet the Qur’an deliberately gives us a double denial/double negation.

Recall that the Jews do not crucify people but they do hang/impale them after stoning them to death. In other words a post mortem suspension humiliation.

Recall the words of the Torah:

For an impaled body is an affront to God.”

“And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ )”

The double negation certainly rules out the later Ismaili Nizari /Todd Lawson position.

That is because they understand the part of the text: “they did not kill him” (as a reference to Jesus soul). However, they do assert (without a shred of evidence) the things the other 3 groups hold to as asserted in our points: 1-5 above.

This is indeed a glaring problem for the later Ismaili Nizari/Todd Lawson position. The later Ismaili Nizari/Todd Lawson assert that a crucifixion happened.

Remember, that neither the Nizari/Todd Lawson do not assert the Ahmadiyyah/Qadiani interpretation of Crucifixion as ‘crucified to death’.

You see dear respected readers. All of these groups: The entirety of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah, the Ahmadiyyah/Qadiyani movement as well as the Ismaili Nizari/Todd Lawson have made Qur’an 4:153-157 so unnecessarily convoluted. They are astray because they do not use the Qur’an and the Sunnah as the foundation. Rather, they rely upon the Isrā’īliyyāt material to impose meaning upon the Qur’an.

The Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah faltered because they relied upon the Isrā’īliyyāt material to impose meaning upon the Qur’an. We have not seen evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah that substantiates their view.

The Imami Shi’i , the Ismaili-Nizar faltered because they did not check the base presuppositions of the Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. They relied upon those presuppositions but came to different exegetical conclusions. However, they assumed the base points that the Sunni assumed.

The Ahmadiyyah (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) faltered because he too did not check the base presuppositions of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. He relied upon those presuppositions but came to different exegetical conclusions.

The latter Sunnis who adopted the Ahmadiyyah position as it was useful for debates: (Ahmed Deedat, Shabir Ally, Yusuf Ismail, Yusuf Buccas). However, there has to be more credit given to them because at the very least they found issue with the prevailing dominant Sunni position on the issue. Where they faltered was because they did questioned some of the assumptions of the Isrā’īliyyāt material that informed that tradition, but did not think to question it in total.

Certainly with all these groups as with any who do good their reward is with Allah (swt). There is no doubt about that. Those views may have been helpful in the past. We have a better way.

The Double Negation Now Makes Complete Sense

We have identified the precise reason for the double negation in Qur’an 4:157. It is not redundant. It is not accidental. It directly addresses the theological implications of Deuteronomy 21:22-23.

1. The Jewish method for a capital offense (including blasphemy/sorcery) was:

  • Stone the person to death first.
  • Then hang/impale the body on a pole as post-mortem exposure.
  • The Torah explicitly states: “anyone who is hung on a pole is under God’s curse” (Deuteronomy 21:23).

2. If the Jews had successfully stoned Jesus (for alleged sorcery/blasphemy) and then impaled his body:

  • This would publicly declare Jesus as cursed by God.
  • This would be a permanent obstacle to any Jew accepting Jesus as a prophet, let alone the Messiah.
  • A cursed Messiah is a contradiction in terms.

3. The Qur’an’s double negation therefore:

  • Denies they killed him (i.e., no stoning occurred).
  • Denies they impaled him (i.e., no post-mortem declaration of divine curse occurred).
  • Removes the theological obstacle completely.

Why This Is More Coherent Than The Roman Crucifixion Theory

Under the Roman crucifixion theory:

  • The theological dimension (curse of God) is completely absent.
  • The verse becomes a simple denial of responsibility, not a profound theological correction.

The theological dimension (curse of God) is completely absent.

  • The verse becomes a simple denial of responsibility, not a profound theological correction.

Under our reading:

  • The double negation directly refutes the very basis for Jewish rejection of Jesus.
  • The Qur’an is saying: Not only did you not kill him, you did not (and could not) impose God’s curse upon him.
  • Jesus is not cursed — he is the Messiah.

The Qur’an Admits the Accusation

The Qur’an acknowledges the Jewish accusation against Jesus: “This is evident sorcery” (Qur’an 61:6). This is crucial because:

  • Sorcery/blasphemy was a capital offense under Jewish law.
  • The Jews believed they were carrying out Torah law.
  • The Qur’an says: You claim you were executing a cursed blasphemer. But you did not kill him. You did not impale him. So the curse never applied.

The Deeper Theological Implication

Deuteronomy 21:23 says the impaled person is cursed by God. The Apostle Paul explicitly connects this to Jesus in Galatians 3:13:

“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.'”

Paul affirms the curse and reinterprets it redemptively. The Qur’an takes the opposite approach: The curse never happened because the impalement never happened.

This is a fundamental theological divergence:

  • Christianity: Jesus became a curse to redeem others.
  • Islam (your reading): Jesus was never cursed because he was never impaled.

Why This Reading Is Superior

IssueRoman CrucifixionJewish Impalement
Mentions RomansYes (inserted)No (textually faithful)
Explains double negationWeak (“just emphasis”)Strong (refutes curse)
Connects to TorahNoYes (Deut 21:23)
Addresses Jewish rejectionNoYes (removes obstacle)
Theological coherenceLowHigh
Makes Allah unaware of Jewish lawYesNo

There is a very simple solution to all of this.  Tafsir al-Quran bi-l-Quran. (Interpreting the Qur’an by the Qur’an)

We have provided a reading of Qur’an 4:157 that:

  1. Stays entirely within the Qur’anic text (no Roman insertion).
  2. Explains the double negation meaningfully.
  3. Connects directly to the Torah verse Jews would recognize.
  4. Addresses the core theological reason Jews reject Jesus.
  5. Maintains Jesus’s honor by denying he ever bore God’s curse.
  6. Does not make Allah unaware of the Jewish penal system.

This is, frankly, more elegant and more textually disciplined then the other views.

When we do this. We can see that: Qur’an 4:153-157 is speaking to a group of Jews from the Children of Israel. No Romans or No Christians any where in the text.

We can also see that if we do a textual analysis of Ṣād-lām-bā’ṣalb and ṣallab refer to a bone from the upper body to the waist [i.e., the backbone]

Which we have done here:

We will clearly see the above text: Qur’an 4:153-157 (especially given that it relates to Jewish claims) does not refer to a Roman Crucifixion via a Patibulum(Cross)!

Think about it!

The Qur’an when dealing with the Christians speaks about the alleged deity of Jesus and his allegedly being the Son of Allah.

So what is the implication of the double negation (not killing or impailing) being directed towards a group of Jews from the Children of Israel?

  1. You did not kill him.
  2. You did not impale him. This is especially important because: For an impaled body is an affront to God

Look at this different translations of 1 Corinthians 1:23

This whole text Qur’an 4:153-157 has noting at all to do with Romans.

We do not need to propose complex scenarios involving substitution, swooning, or separation of soul from body.

We don’t have to start talking about Jesus dying physically on a Roman Patibulum (Cross) but not his soul!

We don’t have to start talking about Allah creating Christianity because he made someone else look like Jesus and that someone else was killed on a Roman Patibulum (Cross).

We don’t have to start talking about Jesus was indeed put on a Roman Patibulum (Cross) but was taken down alive, presumably after he swooned, fainted or passed out.

“He is is going forth to be stoned.” وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ they did not kill him

He was hanged (impaled) on the even of the Passover. وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ they did not impale him.

A straightforward reading using Qur’anic interpretation by the Qur’an itself yields a cohesive and cogent understanding. Tafsir al-Quran bi-l-Quran. No need to use the Isrā’īliyyāt to impose meaning upon the Qur’an.

Well, for those of you who want to believe in the crucifixion of Jesus or not believe he was crucified Knock yourself out! The idea of Roman Crucifixion via a Patibulum(Cross) is alien to the Qur’an. It neither affirms it nor negates it.

Final Thoughts.

What are the implications?

  1. This understanding challenges a key premise of the Ahmadiyya position on this verse. It undermines the credibility of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in a way he has never been challenged before. He was not aware that Qur’an 4:153-157 is not speaking about the Romans.
  2. We don’t have to deal with missionary claims that the Qur’an denies a supposed ‘historical fact’. It is simply irrelevant to the Qur’an.
  3. That a purist approach to interpreting the Qur’an by the Qur’an makes the most sense.
  4. We don’t have to follow the Salafi Manhaj, the Dawatus Salafiyyah, the Ahmadiyyah, the Nizari Ismail and whoever else believe in Isrā’īliyyāt material with no sanad, no connected chains going back to the claimed source material.
  5. We don’t have to imagine the creator, Allah (swt) being unaware of the Jewish penal code. Astaghfirullah.
  6. The Jews can no longer be called Christ Killers, because the Qur’an exonerates them of the charge.

You may also wish to read the following:

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Forgiving Sins: Does This Make Jesus God?

“And let them pardon and overlook. Would you not like that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Quran 24:22)

“Who spend In the cause of Allah during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people – and Allah loves the doers of good.” (Qur’an 3:134)

“And We have not created the heavens and earth and that between them except in truth. And indeed, the Hour is coming; so forgive with gracious forgiveness.” (Qur’an 15:85)

“O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Qur’an 64:14)

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First let us address a misunderstanding that people have in general with the Muslim view in regard to Allah forgiving sins.

“Those who, upon committing an evil deed or wronging themselves, remember Allah and seek forgiveness for their sins—and who forgives sins except Allah?—and they do not knowingly persist in wrongdoing?” (Qur’an 3:125)

All sins are sins, ultimately sins against Allah. Rather, they are major or minor. One needs to beseech Allah for forgiveness. That being said, there are three types of relational sins.

  1. Sins against yourself. You did injustice to your own self.

And whoever does evil or acts unjustly to his soul, then asks forgiveness of Allah, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.” (Qur’an 4:110)

Coupled with this is the psychological torture a sinner puts on themselves thinking that their sins are greater than Allah’s mercy. That Allah (swt) will not forgive them. This is what is meant by forgiving yourself. Allah (swt) says:

“He said, “And who despairs of the mercy of his Lord except for those astray?” (Qur’an 15:56)

“”O my sons! go and enquire about Joseph and his brother, and never give up hope of Allah’s Soothing Mercy: truly no one despairs of Allah’s Soothing Mercy, except those who ungrateful disbelievers.” (Qur’an 12:87)

“Say, “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 39:53)

2. Sins against another party.

“And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives up his right as charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 5:45)

So, depending upon the nature of the offense, one can simply forgive the offending party. However, the offender still needs to seek forgiveness from Allah. Another example could be that someone stole an apple from our orchard and we caught the thief. We can settle it with the thief. That they return the apple, that they agree to pay for it. That they exchange for another item. That they work to pay for it. Yet that offender still needs to ask Allah (swt) for forgiveness. For other offenses, different measures may be taken. This is to ensure a stable, just and cohesive society that is not overwhelmed by crimes and injustice.

3. Sins against Allah.

This is self-explanatory. Yet, in all these above cases. Sinning against myself, another party (person or group), in all cases one still needs to seek forgiveness from Allah (swt).


Jesus forgiving sins makes him God?

It would be appropriate for a Christian to prove to us that Allah (swt) alone pardons, and overlooks sins.

Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?”


Christians tell us that Jesus must be God because he ‘forgave sins’ and that ‘only God’ can forgive sins.

The text that immediately comes to mind is the following:


“But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?”(Mark 2:7)


“And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21)


We find it very peculiar that Christians would take the statement of the people who accused Jesus of wrongdoing and then agree with them!

Basically, the Christian logic is that these people were right. However, Jesus was entitled to do such since he is God.

Prima Qur’an comments:

Now here is some food for thought. Notice that the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason with themselves. Notice that there was absolutely no appeal to proofs and evidence.


Christians argue that the scribes and Pharisees are right based upon their reasoning.

Muslims argue that the scribes and Pharisees are wrong based upon their reason.

So then this would raise an obvious question:
Are there any scriptures that the scribes or Pharisees might appeal to that say that God alone forgives sins or do they simply use their own reason?

We have noted that when Christians try to prove that Jesus is God based upon his ability to forgive sins, they always appeal to Mark 2:7 and Luke 5:21

We have also found it very interesting that they tend to stay away from Matthew chapter 9.

Why don’t they use Matthew chapter 9 verse 8 to prove Jesus forgiving sins makes him divine?

Well, because Matthew chapter 9 verse 8 does not help their case.

In fact, it’s’ a proof text that can be argued effectively against that claim!

“And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; “Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven you.”

And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, “This man blasphemes.”

And Jesus knowing how they were reasoning said, “Why do you think evil in your hearts? What is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you;’ or to say, ‘Arise, and walk?’ But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins, (then said he to the sick of the palsy,) ‘Arise, take up your bed, and go into your house’.”

And he arose and departed to his house. But when the multitudes saw it, they marveled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto MEN.(Matthew 9:2-8)

*Note* Men plural. Not just a man.

Protestants have suspected that earlier Christians had tampered with the text. So they too have begun to tamper with the text. Notice the various translations of this text into English. Only the New International Version is being blatantly deceptive.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/9-8.htm

But there is something else of importance. You see, all believers do believe that Allah can cause us to be stricken with various ailments and illnesses. This can cause us to be humble, to turn us to the Creator, among other things.

However, apparently there was an understanding among certain of the Jews (if this text were to be believed) that if a person was born with an ailment, handicap or illness that either they or their parents did some sin that warranted this.

“As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.” (John 9:1-3)


Now let us go back and compare/contrast these three accounts.

“But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, ”Why does this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?” (Mark 2:6-7)

“And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21)

“When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8)

Prima Qur’an comments:

Mark has it that the Scribes were reasoning that only God can forgive sins.

Luke has it that the Scribes and Pharisees were reasoning that only God can forgive sins.

Matthew does not tell us what the scribes or Pharisees were reasoning at all. Rather, Matthew records the reaction of the crowd who praised God for giving such authority to men (plural).

Is there a contradiction? Not necessarily. Two transmitters record the reaction of Jesus’ opponents. One transmitter records the reaction of the crowd (which could or could not contain Scribes/Pharisees).

For Protestant Christians will ignorantly quote the citations of Mark and Luke as proof of the divinity of Christ Jesus.

Latin Roman Catholics, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox should know better. In this situation, the citation of Matthew 9:8 helps to establish authority for men to forgive sins.

We would like to bring the following text to your attention:

“Whosoever sins you remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosoever sins you retain, they are retained.” (John 20:23)

No one is making an argument that these men are divine because they have the ability to forgive and retain sins. The above text, which supports Sacerdotalism, has to be one of the most disliked texts in the entire New Testament by Protestant Christians.

The Most Famous Prayer in Christianity.

“This, then, is how you should pray: ” ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, let your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” (Matthew 6:9-13)

“He said to them, “When you pray, say: ” ‘Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, as we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.’ ” (Luke 11:2-4)

1) Forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors.

The Greek word there for ‘as‘ is ‘hosper‘ which means: ‘just as‘ and ‘exactly like‘.

2) Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sinned against us.

Source: https://biblehub.com/greek/5618.htm

Prima Qur’an omments:

Jesus himself taught his followers to ask God to pardon their debts to him exactly like they pardon the debts of others to them. No one is asked to sacrifice their children or animals. Simply to pardon people for their offenses.

So the only way any of us, including Jesus, are ‘divine‘ in that sense would be like the saying,

“To err is human, to forgive, divine.” ― Alexander Pople, An Essay on Criticism

“How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil because God was with him.” (Acts 10:38)

A very powerful example of forgiveness. Forgiveness can be a powerful transformative act for the human soul.

A Muslim man forgives the man who killed his son in a brutal murder. May Allah (swt) grant him paradise and may Allah (swt) open the heart of the other man to the message of Islam.

Muslim woman forgives the man who killed her son in a brutal murder. May Allah (swt) grant her paradise and may Allah (swt) open the heart of the other man to the message of Islam.

It is these conservative Muslim Americans that are transforming their neighborhoods, communities and societies for the better.

“When they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.”(Qur’an 5:83)

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May Allah guide the sincere among the Christians so that they do not enter the hellfire.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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A Christian Dilemma: No mention of Islam?

” And give full measure when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is the best way and best in result.” (Qur’an 17:35)

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We were recently looking back at some statements of Frithjof Schuon, and we came across a very forceful proposition.

“If Muhammed had been a false prophet. there is no reason why Christ should not have spoken of him as he spoke of Antichrist but if Muhammed is a true Prophet the passages referring to the Paraclete must inevitably concern him – not exclusively but eminently – for it is inconceivable that Christ, when speaking of the future, should have passed over in silence a manifestation of such magnitude. The same reasoning excludes a priori the possibility that Christ. when making his predictions, intended to include Muhammed under the general denomination of” false prophets”, for in the history of our era Muhammed is in no sense a typical example among others of the same kind, but on the contrary, a unique and incomparable apparition(1). If he had been one of the false prophets announced by Christ he would have been followed by others and there would exist in our day a multitude of false religions subsequent to Christ and comparable in importance and extension to Islam. The spirituality to be found within Islam from its origins up to our days is an incontestable fact. and “by their fruits ye shall know them.” -Frithjof Schuon

We may not agree with the Paraclete part, but this is powerful. This is truly a Christian Dilemma. How could Jesus (as) NOT mention the coming of Muhammed (saw) even if not in a positive sense? All these prophecies about the future and Islam being THE rival to Christianity and yet absolutely nothing?

What is interesting (maybe a PhD thesis out there waiting for one of you—you’re welcome) — what is interesting is that we would be willing to say that if one searched they would find writings or commentaries in the works of the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Syriac Church of the East that most likely did interpret certain passages of their canon as regard the coming of the Blessed Prophet (saw) and/or the rise of Islam. Albeit they had to do so very carefully.

Let us look at the Zenith of the Christian Roman Empire (also known as the Byzantine Empire). Here it is at its Zenith under Justinian I. Btw, the Ghassanids were a vassal Christian state, not Muslims.

THEN SUDDENLY…. UMAYYAD IMPERIUM AT IT’S PEAK

THEN …PEAK OTTOMAN EMPIRE.

This alone is enough to make any sincere person question the validity and veracity of Christianity. It is more than sufficient.

ISLAM WAS LIKE A TSUNAMI OF MONOTHEISM THAT SHOOK THE TRINITARIAN CHRISTIAN WORLD TO IT’S CORE. From the capture of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria and Constantinople.

Islam is set to overtake Christianity (combined denominations) by 2050.

Source: (https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/)

In fact, go and look at this Christian site: an impressive 351 Old Testament Prophecies supposedly that Jesus (as) fulfilled.

Things as vague and insignificant such as:

Riding a donkey into Jerusalem.
Spending some time in Egypt.
Being betrayed for 30 pieces of silver.
Was spat on.
Was despised.
Was rejected.
Will be a judge.
Given vinegar to drink.
Was thirsty. And in reality, a whole host of other idiosyncrasies that would not matter in the least in regard to Jesus (as) and Prophetic fulfillment.

THE BIG MAMA ULTRA MEGA EVENTS ARE NOT WORTH A PROPHECY!

Things like this:

“At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.” (Matthew 27:51-53)

Apparently, things like the Blessed Prophet Muhammed (saw), who came with a message in which his followers and those after them rose up and supplanted previously held Christian lands and territories and is arguably THE #1 rival on THE planet Earth and—not-even…a…pin…drop.

“For it is inconceivable that Christ, when speaking of the future, should have passed over in silence a manifestation of such magnitude.”- Frithjof Schuon

Well said Mr. Schuon.

This certainly is a Christian Dilemma.

May Allah Guide the Christians before they enter the hellfire.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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There Is No Hate Quite Like Christian Love

“Their malice for each other is intense: you think they are united, yet their hearts are divided. That is because they are a people with no understanding.” (Qur’an 59:14)

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“And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.” (Qur’an 5:14)

We know via the doctrine of kasb that this is what the Christians brought on themselves.

I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I have come so that ‘a son will be against his father, a daughter will be against her mother, a daughter-in-law will be against her mother-in-law. A person’s enemies will be members of his own family.” (Matthew 10:34-39)

“Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!” (Luke 12:51)

According to Christians, Christ Jesus did not teach the highest love as laying your life down for your enemy.

“Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” (John 15:13)

However, there is a greater love than this. That you lay down your life for your enemies. Anyone would, in the given circumstances, lay down their lives for their friends.

Christianity is extremely carnal. It is very much of the flesh and not of the transformation of the spirit and the heart. Islam teaches that we must have a complete transformation of the spirit, the mind, the body and the heart.

Allah (swt) tells us in the Qur’an. If you do not come to Allah (swt) with a sound heart. Forget about it!

“The day when neither wealth nor sons will avail anyone. Only the one who will come to Allah with a sound heart.” (Qur’an 26:89)

The Church of the Holy Sepulcher Christians will bash each other up because they did not agree on the moving of a chair.

Sometimes a brawl will break out because one monk or priest will brush or move his broom just a little too much for the other’s liking.

In 1776, by order of the Sultan, the Muslims forced the 6 bickering Christian groups to sign a document to try and work out their differences over control over the sanctuaries of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. That document was ratified by the following groups: the Latin Catholic Church, The Greek Orthodox Church, The Armenian Apostolic Church, The Syrian Orthodox Church, The Ethiopian Orthodox Church, and the Coptic Orthodox Church.

Prior to this, Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub had entrusted the Keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher to a Muslim family. The other Muslim family would then take the key and open the Church. This shared responsibility was a demonstration to Christians about what cooperation might look like.

Here is a Protestant Christian, Rick Wiles, who speaks about this.

Recently, while in Singapore, the Latin Roman Catholic Pope made the following statement:

“Every religion is a way to arrive at God. There are different languages to arrive at God but God is God for all. But my God is more important than your god, is that true? There is only 1 God & each of has a language to arrive at God. Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, they are different paths.”

We say Latin Roman Catholic Pope rather than ‘The Pope’ because to call him ‘The Pope’ means we have taken a side in the intra-Christian schisms over who actually is ‘The Pope’. So he (Jorge Mario Bergoglio) is one of two claimants. The other claimant is Wagih Sobhi Baki Soliman, known as Pope Tawadros II of the Orthodox Coptic Church.

However, his (Jorge Mario Bergoglio) comment already agitated those in the sedevacantist movement. Sedevacantist believe that The Latin Roman Catholic Pope has actually been vacant for a while. So statements made by Jorge Mario Bergoglio did not help matters.

On a side note, there is a renewed curiosity in the Latin Roman Catholic Church, the Various Orthodox Churches and others among Protestant Christians in the West. As the Latin Roman Catholic Church already has a dominant presence in the West, it is the one that has the most to gain from Christians falling out with Protestantism. Yet in recent years a new kid on the block has shown up in the form of the various Eastern Orthodox churches.

It also seems to be a matter of who gets their message out first, as various Eastern Orthodox Churches have now come in with the claim of being ‘The One True Church’. Protestants, Westerners and Christians in general are not aware of the many competing claims as to the One True Church. True, as in it has an authentic historical pedigree and true, as in it has been guided by the Holy Spirit to teach the one true doctrine.

There is a type of predatory behavior among Eastern Orthodox Christians that take advantage of Protestant layman and their general ignorance of history.

For example, most Protestant layman do not know that the Oriental Orthodox Christians consider themselves to be the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus, in his Great Commission, and its bishops and the successors of Christ’s apostles.

They would gladly challenge the Eastern Orthodox Christians on their claim, any time, anywhere, any place.

The Assyrian Church of the East can also readily contest the claims of the Eastern Orthodox or anyone else for that matter. They claim lineage and pedigree going back to St. Thomas the Apostle.

The Assyrian Church of the East is not to be confused with the Chaldean Catholic Church — which
is in communion with the Latin Roman Catholic Church also can be a claimant to the one true Church of Christ Jesus. In their view, Cyril of Alexandria was a bullied Nestorius. That Nestorius was misrepresented at a council that he wasn’t even present. The Churches of the East refuse to anathematize Nestorius and have traditionally maintained he wasn’t Nestorian.

At least not ‘Nestorian’ as was painted by rivals of the Church.

The issue with other Christians is that they call Mary: Theotokos (mother of God) where as the Assyrian Church of the East maintains that Mary is to be called: Christotokos (mother of Christ).

What is ironic is that older Christian sects, like the Latin Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox Christians would challenge Protestants on the fact that it was church councils that decided the biblical canon. The irony, though, is that when these very churches get into disputes with one another, they go back to their respective biblical canons to quote source text. The other irony is that if you ask who or what gives the Church its authority and where you get that information from, they would also ultimately have to reference their biblical canons. It becomes a type of circular reasoning.

On that note, we would like to take the time to thank the Protestant Christians on behalf of all other Christians for being responsible for mass printing, mass distributing and mass translating the Bible….while the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Assyrian Church and Latin Roman Catholic were ya know…..doing…stuff…..sorta.

In fact, if it was not for the work of the Protestant Christians, the other churches would be quoting their respective scholars, bishops, patriarchs, and councils. Now, they (Non-Protestants) can open up text to argue their points with Protestants.

Isn’t history filled with irony?

Christians put plants in each other’s camps to cause destruction and strife?

Yohannan Sulaqa took the name Shimun(Shamoun) and he was seen as a plant
by the Latin Roman Catholic Church to split the Assyrian Church of the East and weaken it.

The British-educated Patriarch Shimun (Shamoun) XXI Eshai, traveled through Europe before moving to Chicago in 1940 to join the growing Assyrian diaspora community there. He was assassinated by a fellow Christian by the name of  David Malek Ismail.

Interestingly, one of the rumors on the internet is that another Shimun(Sam Shamoun) is, of all things, a Muslim plant to cause strife and discord among the Christian community!

We had already discussed this individual in our article here:

He (Shimun) was masterful in his attacks upon Protestant Christianity. First luring in his audience by going after what are considered by most Protestants to be fringe groups: One-ness Christians, Jehovah’s’ Witnesses,etc. Then many Protestants noted his (Shimun/Shamoun) slow descent into the Latin Roman Catholic Church.

For the following videos we want to give credit to the following YouTube account to which the videos were uploaded:https://x.com/Farid_0v

Warning: There is very and we do mean, very filthy language! As is known: There Is No Hate, Quite Like Christian Love


Here is this guy, Shamoun (Shimun), who used to watch this other Anti-Muslim Christian make mistakes and flawed arguments but would keep this from the Christians! He only now brings it up because of the mutual hatred in their hearts for each other!

Look at the deception, dear Christian truth seekers! We know that you people are fed up with lies and many of you are sincere! There is an emptiness in your heart and a longing for the truth!

@0:36 “There’s a video on YouTube Muslim exposed him they made 100 mistakes, CP does” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “Say it again?”
“100 mistakes CP does in Arabic.” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “And you know Arabic! You’ve seen it right?”
“yeah yeah!” -Coptic Baldwin
Sam Shamoun: “But you didn’t want to say anything out of love for the brethren right?”

Prima Qur’an comments: So Christians have no moral obligation to tell the truth? Is it ok to let other Christians deceive and lie to fellow Christians as long as it makes Islam look bad?

This is as much an admission about Hassamo (Shimun) and his moral ineptitude as it is this guy who goes by the moniker CP. If it was for the sake of not calling out another Christian in front of others, why not take him to the side and discuss privately? Why let this go on and on and for how long?!

However, when Christians have a rift with one another, then is it no longer fine for Christians to deceive other Christians in regard to their competency in the Arabic language, among other matters?! WoW!

Now Hassamo (Shimun) claims those that follow this CP guy are not mentally stable and even says he himself is not mentally stable!

Here is Hassamo (Shimun) exposing this CP guy for not being able to adequately answer a basic fundamental question on the Biblical canon!

Watch as two Christians filled with and guided by the Holy Spirit absolutely tear into each other.

Recently there was a debate held between a Muslim: Mohamed Hijab of the United Kingdom and a Christian: William Lane Craig of the United States.


The Muslim: Mohamed Hijab won that particular debate handedly. After the debate, there was something akin to a CNN or Fox News “Spin Room” session that we see after Presidential Debates. This debate review served as a sort of ‘damage control’. What was truly shocking is that the Christian side, as a guest, was someone who had no background in Christian or Islamic theology or no formal training whatsoever. In fact, that person is a self-identified Atheist!

Which again goes to show you. It is no longer about saving souls for Jesus as it is about attacking Islam.

For those many sincere Christians out there struggling, groping in the darkness and looking for answers, do not be duped by the very people who would be fine with lying to you and fine with others lying to you. May Allah (swt) guide the sincere among you.

“Their malice for each other is intense: you think they are united, yet their hearts are divided. That is because they are a people with no understanding.” (Qur’an 59:14)

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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The Ibadi vs the Mu’tazila on kasb (acquisition)

“While Allah created you and that which you do?” (Qur’an 37:96)

“That is Allah—your Lord! There is no god except Him. The Creator of all things, so worship Him . And He is the Maintainer of everything.” (Qur’an 6:102)

“Say, “Who is Lord of the heavens and earth?” Say, ” Allah.” Say, “Have you then taken besides Him allies not possessing even for themselves any benefit or any harm?” Say, “Is the blind equivalent to the seeing? Or is darkness equivalent to light? Or have they attributed to Allah partners who created like His creation so that the creation of each seemed similar to them?” Say, ” Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Prevailing.” (Qur’an 13:16)

“It was not you who killed them, but it was Allah Who did so. Nor was it you who threw , but it was Allah Who did so, rendering the believers a great favour. Surely Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” (Qur’an 8:17)

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This view of the Ibadi school is believed to be borrowed by the Ash’ari; meaning they have adopted the view after it was firmly rooted among the Ahl al-Haqq wa-l istiqama (The People of Truth and Straightness).

Or have they attributed to Allah partners who created like His creation so that the creation of each seemed similar to them?” Say, ” Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Prevailing.” (Qur’an 13:16)

The above verse shows that the Mu’tazila have a belief in a multitude of beings that are creators. They also open themselves and their adherents why these low level and ultimately silly Christian polemic catch them flat footed.

An example being the following:


But those grounded in strong theology are amused at these feeble attempts by Christian polemics.

In fact, our theology solves real dilemma that are faced by the Christian tradition that have given them the unfortunate choices of Calvinism that God creates the evil and wills the person to do the evil and God chooses the evil for the person to act upon. Calvinism removes the free will of human beings.

Than there is the choice of Molinism which is that the truth values of subjective conditionals of human freedom is Not under God’s control. It is something imposed upon God, but from who or where? Not only this but it is absolutely unnecessary for an all-knowing Creator to have ‘middle knowledge’. Lastly, it gives human beings the ability to resist the decree of God.

These are the messy theological conundrums that the Christians find themselves in.

Allah (swt) creates all things.

Human beings acquire the actions and are responsible for their choice and consequence of the acquisition.

“Allah does not charge a soul except with that within its capacity. It will have the consequence of what good it has earned, and it will bear the consequence of what evil it has earned. “Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people.”
(Qur’an 2:286)

(kasabat wa’alaya ma ik’tasabat)

Man Wills -Allah creates his actions. Man freely chooses and acquires the actions that Allah (swt) creates.

The following is from Shaykh Abd al-‘Aziz al-Thamini al-Mus‘abi on God’s Power and Human Acts, from Kitab Ma‘alim al-Din translated into English via Professor Valerie Hoffman.

Kitab Ma’alim al-Din is a basic book on Aqida that would be taught as an introduction to the subject matter.


Demonstrating That God Creates Human Acts


If you understand the preceding concerning the necessity of the absolute oneness of God Most High, you will know that one may use the proof of mutual prevention (dalil al-tamanu‘) to demonstrate that the Most High is the one who brings human acts (af‘al al-‘ibad) into existence, without any effect from human power on them. Rather, [human power] comes into existence only at the moment of [the act for which it is created]. This is in opposition to the Mu‘tazila, in their claim that human power is what produces (hiya ’l-mu’aththira fi ) the acts according to their choice, and that the eternal power (al-qudra ’l-qadima) has no effect at all on those voluntary acts, and neither does it flow according to the will of God Most High.


The way to prove [that God creates human acts] is the proof that a multiplicity of gods necessarily implies the affirmation of God’s impotence when His will is not implemented—which is exactly what the teaching of the Mu‘tazila entails, for they have said that the attachment of human power and will to the act prevents the attachment of the power and will of God Most High to that act, although that act is one of the possible things that have been conclusively proven to be necessarily attached to the power and will of God Most High, through a general attribution of [His power and will] to all [possible things]. This act, therefore, is subject to both human power and will and the power and will of our Lord, because of what you know of the generality of the attachment of God’s power and will.

The Qadariyya claimed that what produced and influenced human acts and inhered in them is the weaker of the two powers and more feeble of the two wills, human power and will. This despicable doctrine is nothing other than an affirmation that the Most High has a partner in [the act] and that the Most High should, on the contrary, be described as impotent and overpowered by another. For this reason, the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, called them the Magians of this umma (al-Rabi‘ b. Habib n.d., 3:10; Abu Dawud 2000, Kitab al-sunna [41], bab 17, no. 4693), for what their teaching requires is not considered a [genuine Islamic] doctrine. Since it is a defamation of His divinity and an affirmation of His deficiency and of the nonexistence of His essence to assert that God is made impotent through the effective power of the will of another god, how could the effective power and will of a human being make Him impotent? They are not helped by their response, which is that it is not necessary that the Most High have no power over an act produced by a human being, because the Most High is capable of bringing it into existence by stripping the person of power over it and of will for it, and by making it an act of coercion, like the act a person who is shivering, because we say that it is absolutely impossible for God to be overpowered or unable to bring any possible thing into existence. This answer of theirs requires that the Most High be unable to bring the act of the person into existence, unless the person is stripped of power and will. So, according to them, that possible act is beyond His power and He is unable to bring it into existence, and He is overpowered by the power and will of the person, although their aforementioned answer does not accord with their corrupt principle that God must do what is good and best, because it is impossible for Him to strip the person of the power He created for him after making him accountable; indeed, He must help him by making [good] acts easy for him.


If you understand this, you know that the correct teaching is that of the majority (al-jumhur), and is indicated by the obvious meaning of the Book and Sunna, and was agreed upon by the early Muslims (al-salaf) before the appearance of heresies: that God is the Creator and all else is created, that the Most High has no partner in His dominion, and that having an effect on things and the power to bring things into existence are His characteristics and cannot
be affirmed of anything else. It is reported that al-Juwayni said that originated [human] power does affect acts, but not independently [of divine power], as the Mu‘tazila said; rather, human power affects acts according to the measure determined by God Most High and in the manner He intended.

Al-Baqillani and al-Isfarayini also said that human power affects the particular quality of the act, but does not bring it into existence, although al-Baqillani said that it is a particular quality, whereas al-Isfarayini, who denied the modes (al-ahwal), said that the particular quality is only an aspect and expression. Some of the Ash‘arites chose the teaching of
al-Baqillani and distinguished between the aspects of production (ikhtira‘) and acquisition (kasb), in that the movement, as a movement, is attributed to the act of God Most High in terms of its production and being brought into existence. This requires that He know it in all its aspects, and that the movement not act upon the essence of the Most High, nor is He described by it in the sense that it subsists in Him; nor can one say that He moves by it because He brought it into existence and produced it.


The act is attributed to the human being in terms of its particular qualities, such as prayer, for example, or illegal seizure or theft or adultery, and human power has no effect except in that aspect; there is no stipulation that the person know all aspects of the act. His body is the locus of the act and of his acquisition of it, and the act is attributed to him, so it is said that he is moving or at rest or praying or illegally seizing or stealing or committing adultery, and so forth. If a command is attached to it and the act accords with it, it is called an act of obedience and of worship. If a prohibition attaches to it and the act opposes it, it is called an act of disobedience and a crime. That is the aspect concerning which the person is commanded through words that are addressed to him, ordering him to pray and fast and not to commit illegal seizure or theft , and it [is this aspect] that makes an act worthy of reward, punishment, praise, or blame. However, concerning its coming into existence, there is no difference between voluntary and involuntary acts.


Nonexistence, as has been explained; existence, according to them, is added to the essence, which is shared by each mode and is an intermediary between existence and nonexistence. So the one who does an act does nothing concerning things except bring it into existence, which is a mode concerning which there is no intelligible distinction according to the difference of realities. Command and prohibition do not attach to a specific mode, but to particular characteristics and expressions. Acts are either good or bad according to these characteristics, and these entail praise or blame.


According to them, acts that are commanded or prohibited are not determined for a person; what is determined for a person are things for which there is no human accountability. In this way they differ from the teaching of al-Baqillani, whose opinion meets the demands of both reason and revelation, as indeed do the opinions of all three of them, although what al- Juwayni reports concerning the teaching of al-Baqillani and al-Isfarayini drift s into the teaching of the Mu‘tazila, but without going so far as their heinous belief or [on the other
extreme] so far as requiring people to do what is impossible for them, with the assessment that human power has no effect on anything at all, as the majority say, whereas the Mu‘tazila say to us that the outcome of obligation according to this estimation is “Act, you who have no act: do what I am doing,” although that is weak.


What al-Baqillani and his companions rely on in attributing all possible things to God Most High is their possibility; the particular characteristic of one is no better than another [in this regard]. This is an extension of what they attributed to the human being, for this aspect is either possible or not. If it is possible, it must be linked to His power. If it is not possible, its attribution to any power is impossible. The compulsion from which they fled is forced upon them, because in that case one cannot imagine an intention to bring it into existence in view of its impossibility (‘ala hiyaliha), so the act is not produced from the person as long as God Most High has not done the act in that body (dhat). On the other hand, when He does the act in that body, one cannot imagine the person abandoning it, as they claim. So compulsion is forced upon them. Al-Isfarayini is forced into this even more, because he says that this aspect is just an expression in the mind, so how can one intend to do something that has no objective existence (wujud fi ’l-kharij)?


In sum, there are five opinions on this question: (1) that of the majority, which is that human power has no effect at all, and comes into existence only at the time of the act; (2) that of al-Juwayni; (3) that of al-Baqillani and his followers; (4) that of the Compulsionists (al-Mujbira or al-Jabriyya), who deny that the human being has any choice concerning his acts; and (5) that of the Mu‘tazila.


Note: Our companions say that a [voluntary act] does not issue from a person unless these five conditions are met: (1) God wills it and creates it for him; (2) human power to act occurs at the time of the act, not before it or after it; (3) the person wills it and acquires it; (4) God helps (i‘ana) him to do it if it is an act of obedience; (5) God abandons him to it if it is an act of disobedience. More investigation of this follows.

on what is possible concerning the most high


[By “possible,”] I mean what is neither necessary nor impossible, but is possible for Him. This chapter is divided into sections.


The Doctrine of Acquisition


A person who is subject to the law must believe that God the Glorious created human beings (al-‘ibad) and created their acts and created reward and punishment for these acts, and that they acquire (iktasabu) their acts and do them, and are not compelled or forced to do them. There is disagreement concerning the definition of an act, insofar as it is [their] act. The best definition of it, according to the principle of our companions and those who agree with them on this, is that it is an accident 1(see note) brought into being at the same time as the capacity (istita‘a) to do it. This matter is referred to as “acquisition” (kasb), which is one of
the obscure topics of study in theology (min ghawamid mabahith ‘ilm al-kalam). The truth is that a person does not create his [or her] own acts, but merely acquires them by the necessity of the attachment of accountability to them (darurat ta‘alluq al-taklif bi-ha). We know by demonstration (bi-’l-burhan) that there is no creator but God Most High, and we know of necessity that power that is originated for a person (al-qudra ’l-haditha li-’l-‘abd) attaches to some of his deeds, such as getting up, but not others, such as falling. The effect of the originated power is called “acquisition.”

  1. In the philosophical sense of something that is nonessential, transitory, and changeable

Although we cannot completely understand it, it is said that a person’s acquisition of an act occurs at the same time as his power and will, without his affecting anything or bringing anything into existence; he is merely the locus (mahall) for the act.


Acquisition does not make necessary the existence of the act for which a person is given power, although it does necessitate the ascription of the act to the person doing it. Because of this ascription, the person is variably described according to the deed: good if it is an act of obedience and bad if it is an act of disobedience, because a bad deed done intentionally and willfully is bad, unlike the creation of evil, which does not negate a praiseworthy benefit; indeed it may be both, because it is established that the Creator is wise and that He does not create things without a praiseworthy outcome, although we may not understand it. So anyone who imagines that the Most High does evil must understand that there may be wisdom and good in His creating them, just as there is in the creation of ugly, harmful or painful bodies—unlike the acquirer, who may do good or evil. Therefore we say that the acquisition of evil after its prohibition is evil, foolish, and deserving of blame and punishment.


One cannot say, “The Most High’s independence in creating acts is proven, and a single object of power cannot come under two different powers, as is necessary by your assertion that the act is both created by God and acquired by the person who does it,” because we say that since it has been demonstrated that the creator of the act is God, and it is necessary that the power and will of the person enter into some acts, such as the movement of anger, but not others, such as shivering, we need to avoid this difficulty by saying that God Most High creates the act and the person acquires it. It has been established that the application of a person’s power and will to an act is limited to acquisition and that God, as the one who brings the act into being, is its creator. Therefore, a single object of power (almaqdur al-wahid) is subject to two different powers from two diferent aspects; it is subject to human power from the aspect of acquisition. This determination of meaning is necessary, although we cannot say more than to summarize by saying that human acts are created and brought into being by God at the same time as human power and choice. We may distinguish between acquisition and creation by saying that acquisition occurs with an instrument, and creation occurs without an instrument.


Those who say humans are compelled to act say that humans have absolutely no choice concerning what they do; rather, they are compelled to do them and are an instrument for them, just as a knife is an instrument for cutting and a tree is an instrument for wind—rather, like a string attached to the air, twisted by the wind to the right and then to the left , powerless to oppose or resist it. According to them, animals are like inanimate things in relation to their acts and have no power over them, either to produce them or to acquire them. The fallacy of this argument is obvious, for we necessarily judge that we choose some of our acts, such as extending our hand to take something, and are compelled toward others, such as shivering. They are compelled to hold that human beings are not accountable for anything they do, and that it is literally and legally inappropriate to ask them to do something or to prohibit it or praise or blame or reproach them for doing it, and that there should be no surprise over their disbelief, as expressed by “How can you disbelieve in God?” (Qur’an 2:28). All this is false, by the consensus of the monotheists.


One cannot say, “You must believe in compulsion, since you do not assign to human beings any effect in their acts,” because we say that the compulsion of which one should beware is what we can sense (hissi). The compulsion that we understand with our intellect, on the other hand, is the removal of [the attribution of] creation from human beings, for all [Muslim] sects agree on this—indeed, that is faith itself. Just as whatever God Most High wills to occur from a person necessarily occurs through his choice, the necessity of its occurrence through choice is inevitably actualized because of that choice, a truth that no one denies.


Note: Some say that the meaning of choice is that when it occurs to a person to do something and he hesitates to do it and abandons it, there arises from his hesitation an inclination toward preferring one alternative over the other. This inclination is called “will,” and the preference is called “choice.” If he suddenly tries to do something and prefers it, the One who brings it from nonexistence into existence is God, who is glorified and exalted.


Human Power Comes into Being with Its Act

Know that we only speak of a power belonging to a human being at the time of the act that is its object because of the necessary distinction you find between the movements of coercion (idtirar) and of acquisition. Th is characteristic (hukm), which is conjunction, is not permanent insofar as it is a power, but rather insofar as it is an accident (‘arad). One of the characteristics of accidents is that they pass into nonexistence after the time of their existence, and it is usually (fi ’l-akthar) impossible for them to remain beyond that time in order to exist in another, as has been explained earlier. If the impossibility of their remaining is established, it is clear that originated power cannot exist before [the act for which it is created], because if it existed before the act, it would have to pass into nonexistence
at the time that the act that is its object comes into existence, in which case it would come into existence through a nonexistent power, which is impossible. To affirm that means that if the power is nonexistent, the existence of its opposite, impotence, is possible, in which case the act would be subject to a person’s power at a moment when he is impotent, which would mean that he is unable to do it. So something would happen that at the time of its occurrence is the result of an impotent power, which is impossible.


One of their scholars who has reflected on the impossibility of the existence of power to act before the act said that if this is taken only with respect to the impossibility of the endurance of accidents, then the power is not really a cause of the act’s coming into existence, nor does it affect it. If it does not bring the empowered act into existence, it is possible for it to exist before the act that it is empowered to do, then pass into nonexistence, and then a similar power could come into existence. In that case, the power that comes into existence at
that time is attached to the act, and the power that existed before the act is [also] attached, so one could say that this power was attached to the act before it passed into nonexistence and ceased to exist, and its attachment to it ceased to exist, and a similar power came into existence.


It is as if someone knew by true information that Zayd would come into existence tomorrow at sunrise, for example. Then we could renew his knowledge that this would happen at the known time, until its occurrence at the time he was told it would occur. So the [knowledge] that comes into existence at that point, attaching to the previous existence [of knowledge], attaches to Zayd’s coming into existence at the specified time. So the object of knowledge is attached to both of them, one earlier and one later. If it were possible for something that is the opposite of knowledge to occur at the time that an object of knowledge comes into existence, such as bewilderment, neglect, ignorance or doubt, then, at the time that the object of knowledge came into existence, it would be unknown by knowledge that occurs at the same time, although it attaches to the knowledge that existed before the object of knowledge came into existence. So a consideration of its lack of attachment to the one who knew of it beforehand at the time it comes into existence enables us to understand that an empowered act is not attached to a preexistent power at the time that it comes into existence.

This does not prevent its preexistence, especially since we have said that [the power] does not affect [the empowered act], but merely attaches to the empowered act, without producing
an effect on it. Since we say that knowledge can attach to an object of knowledge before it comes into existence, what is to prevent power from attaching to an empowered act before the act? A person can sense in himself, before he does something, the difference between his act of shivering and something he does when he is healthy. That is simply because he finds an essential attribute attached to the act before it occurs, and then similar powers are renewed until the time the empowered act comes into existence.


Proof for the assertion (ithbat) of originated power is that we can imagine two movements going (mutajarradatayn) in the same direction (jiha) and having similar force (jabr), but one of them is coerced (idtirariyya) and the other is acquired (iktisabiyya). There is no doubt that we find a necessary distinction between the two movements, but this distinction cannot be due to a difference in the movements themselves, because they resemble each other and belong to the same person who is doing these movements; what can be discerned concerning both is the same. So the distinction must be due to an additional attribute in the
mover. It cannot be due to a mode (hal), because a mode cannot be examined by itself in a substance, as modes cannot be discerned by themselves, but would have to be distinguished by another mode subsisting in it, and that by another mode, and so on, which would result in an infinite series. The distinction [between the two movements] cannot be due to the soundness of the construction [of the body of the mover] because that is not [necessarily] lost in a coerced movement, for example, if someone else is moving the person’s hand, despite the distinction, in which case the attribute would be an accident. Furthermore, this attribute must be something that either requires life or does not. The second [alternative] is wrong, because it would have no attachment to movement, and because it is shared between two things, so it is not the basis of the distinction between the two movements. So it must be the first, something that carries this stipulation.

This [attribute] cannot be knowledge or life or speech, because all of these exist with both movements in the case of bewilderment. So it must be an accident with a relation and attachment to the movement. This is what we call “power.” Although we and the Mu‘tazila disagree concerning whether it is one of the attributes that exist from the start, we agree that it is one of the attributes that have attachments (annaha min al-sifat al-muta‘allaqa).


Accountability Attaches to Acquisition


What is meant by “acquisition” is nothing but the attachment of this originated power in the locus of the empowered act, at the same time as the act, without producing any effect. Acquisition is the attachment of legal accountability and entails the attainment of reward and punishment. So the teaching of the Compulsionists (al-Jabriyya), is wrong, because compulsion implies necessity and the nullification of the locus of accountability and the aforementioned entailment [of reward and punishment]. For this reason, it is a heresy (bid‘a) that impacts the contract (‘aqd) of faith.


The teaching of the Mu‘tazila is also wrong, which is that a person produces (yakhtari‘u) his own acts according to his will by the power that God Most High created (khalaqa) for him by the enabling He has given him (bi-wasitat iqdarihi la-hu). They agree with us that it is created by the Most High, because if it were created [by the person] that would entail an infinite series [of creators], and the falsity of that has already been explained in the proof of God’s oneness and the impossibility of His having a partner.

Note: The later Mu‘tazila, however, did say that humans create their own acts


The doctrine of acquisition occupies a position between those two corrupt teachings. The attachment of accountability, meaning that the empowered act comes into existence with the originated power, is required by the law in the matters for which the human being is held accountable, because in the case of an empowered act without human power, like the movement of shivering, for example, our glorified Lord graciously removes accountability from us, whether negatively by prohibiting it or positively by commanding it. A person who falls from a high place cannot be prohibited from falling at the time that this occurs, though someone may wish this of him by telling him, “Don’t fall on it.” Nor can he be commanded to fall by telling him, “Fall on it.” Likewise, the person who shivers can neither be commanded to do that movement nor prohibited from it, although if the Glorious One reversed accountability or made everyone accountable, that would [still] be good, because the power of the accountable person has no effect on anything, but the Most High in His wisdom deemed what is fixed by the law to be most appropriate, as has been explained.

Note: According to this theological perspective, anything God does is good, because goodness is defined by what God does, not by human judgment of what is good. So even if God commanded what we perceive to be evil and prohibited what we perceive to be good, or if He made people accountable regardless of their ability to obey His commands, that would still be good. God is therefore gracious when He removes accountability for things over which we have no power.


In sum, these acts that are created by God Most High have legal implications (nasabaha ’l-shar‘) when they come close (‘inda iqtirabiha) to originated accidents like power and will, entailing the attainment of reward and punishment or something else, meaning whatever reward has been set for it, according to whether, with the intention of obedience, one has done something obligatory or recommended, or not done something that is prohibited or reprehensible, and punishment for doing something that is prohibited or failing to do what is obligatory, or the absence of reward and punishment for doing something that is permitted
or reprehensible or for failing to do something that is recommended or for failing to do something that is reprehensible, without the intention of obedience. What we asserted earlier does not negate this, because it is an example that need not be restricted, and because the abandonment of obligatory duties is categorized as prohibited and the abandonment of recommended acts is categorized as reprehensible.


Judgment concerning individual felicity and misery [in the afterlife] exists from all eternity without any cause for it except that God Most High does what He likes and judges as He wills. The outcome of the teaching of the Compulsionists (al-Mujbira), which results in stupidity and weakness of intellect, goes against the Shari‘a, because it removes accountability for acts for which there is usually no possible alternative (didd), whether through existence or nonexistence. Accountability usually exists for what is easy for a person to do or not to do. What a person does has no definable effect on anything, contrary to the claim
of the Mu‘tazila.


There is no distinction between acts for which the law makes people accountable and those for which it does not make people accountable, except the presence or absence of acquisition. If all acts were equal, as the Compulsionists say, the legal distinction between them would be nullified, and accountability for doing them would also be nullified—that is, for an act that is within the capacity of the accountable person, not any other act. In that case, no acts would ordinarily be within human capacity, so there would be no accountability for anything, because of the words of the Most High, “God does not place an obligation on a
soul that is beyond its capacity” (Qur’an 2:286). Their teaching nullifies the Book of God, the Sunna of the Prophet, and the consensus [of the umma].

Human Power Cannot Nullify God’s Power


There are two other pitfalls in the doctrine of the Mu‘tazila, in addition to the previously mentioned proof of the impossibility of the impotence of the eternal power. One of these is that it requires that a possible thing be impossible. The second is that it gives more weight to that which has less (tarjih al-marjuh),(see note) which is obvious from their aforementioned arguments. Concerning the first, it is said that a human act is possible before the power is created for it, and every possible thing is subject to the power of God Most High. The result is obvious: if He creates a power for a person, the Mu‘tazila say that at that point the possibility that the act could come into existence by the power of God Most High ceases by what He has established for the person, and it becomes impossible for it to come into existence by [God’s power]. So what was possible with respect to the power of the Most High has become impossible with respect to it. One cannot say that [the empowerment of] an accident is impossible for Him due to a cause, namely the attachment of originated power to it, or that it is impossible for a single act to be brought into existence through two different powers.

Note: This is because the Mu‘tazila say that human power (which has less weight) over an act
means that God’s power (which has more weight) does not affect the act, so what has less weight predominates over what has more.

The impossibility of something with regard to an accident does not affect its possibility with regard to the essence, because we say that there is no good reason for it to be impossible. Their allegation requires that the impossibility apply to the essence, because the originated power that they see as impeding the attachment of the eternal power to the act cannot impede it; rather, what is correct, according to both reason and revelation (‘aqlan wa-naqlan), is the reverse. They say: It remains possible concerning the act of a person that he could be stripped of the power to do it. We say: In that case, the act cannot be due to human power. Furthermore, according to your principle of [God’s] obligation to do what is best, stripping a person [of power to do an act] would not be possible after a person has been ordered to do it.


They say: If a person’s power has no effect on his act, he cannot be rewarded or punished for doing it. It is known that the latter is false, so therefore so is the former. Their interdependence is proven by the fact that if the act is not an effect of his power, there would be no difference between him and his body and all other bodies in the world, (see note) and if his accidents were joined together, their union would have no effect on him. Just as there would be no reward or punishment for this act, because he has no effect on any aspect of it, likewise there would necessarily be no reward or punishment for any of his acts, because he has no effect on any aspect of them.

Note: That is, a person’s relationship to his own acts would be no different from the relationship of any other person or thing to his acts.

We say: Their interdependence is prevented by acquisition, which is sufficient for a person to attain reward and punishment for his act, and what you say does not make acquisition of the act impossible.


They say: How can a person be praised or blamed for what he does not do? In that case, people could have a basis for making a plea in the afterlife, and God Most High has said, “So the people may have no plea against God [for punishing them] after the Messengers [had warned them]” (Qur’an 4:165). We say: This concerns the first type [of act], and that results from his acquisition of it. They are also obligated by what we already said of their teaching, namely that they say that originated power has an effect on voluntary acts, although they agree with us that the Most High is the creator of that power and is the one who calls it into being by creating desire in the person and the power to decide to do it, and other such causes of the act.

If the causes of its existence are from the Most High, and with these causes the act becomes necessary and unavoidable, then the person is forced to do the act; God has forced him and made him do it by creating for him all the causes and things on which it depends, so that, given the existence of these causes, the person has no way to avoid doing the act. In addition, the Glorified One knows what act of obedience or disobedience the person is doing, so the disobedient person would also have a plea [before God] according to their principle [that God must do what is best for His creatures], by saying, “Lord, why did You create desire in me? Indeed, why did You create me, since You knew that I am not one of those who are able to obey You? And since You did create me, why didn’t You cause me to die when I was little, before I reached the age of accountability? And since you did cause me to reach it, why didn’t you make me insane, not a commander of the earth from heaven, for that would be easier for me than enduring torture [in hellfire]. And since You made me rational, why did
You make me accountable, when You knew that accountability would not benefit me in any way? Indeed, it is more disastrous for me than anything else!”


Fakhr [al-Din al-Razi] said, “One of the most clever of the Mu‘tazila said, ‘These two questions are the enemies of our school. Were it not for them, we would hold the place of honor [among theologians] comparable to the rank of chess among games.’” What he means is that the answers to these two questions would solve all the problems introduced by the Mu‘tazila. The answers come from two directions: first, that God Most High knows that whatever He brings into existence must occur, and that whatever He will not bring into existence cannot occur; second, no preponderance of impetus exists that prevents an act (lam yujad rujhan al-da‘i imtana‘ al-fi ‘l); if that were necessary, a problem would arise against them on these two issues.


Th is is what Imam Suhar al-‘Abdi meant when he said, “They should be asked about [God’s] knowledge [of what people will do], for if they affirm it, they also affirm [His] creation [of their acts],”(see note) referring to His words “God knows all things” (Qur’an 2:282) and “God is the creator of all things” (Qur’an 13:16), “for they are two general questions concerning their attachment to human acts.

Note: At least one of the earliest Muslim groups identified by the heresiographers as upholding human power over their own acts, the Shabibiyya, allegedly felt that God’s knowledge of what people will do would remove their free will, so they felt compelled to say that God does not know what people will do. Most of the Qadariyya and Mu‘tazila, however, denied this linkage between God’s knowledge and His power.

Neither of them has anything to distinguish it from the other in this regard, for if you say
this, and that whatever God knows He will not bring into existence cannot occur, that goes against your teaching, and your companions will disagree that God has knowledge of a possible thing that will not occur, so what about something that is innately impossible (fa-ma zannuka bi-’l-mumtani‘ al-wuqu‘)?” We have already answered this question concerning the attachment of [God’s] knowledge [to human acts]. By what is innately impossible, he is speaking comprehensively (ma huwa shamil) concerning that possible thing.


Note: Know that when the Glorified and Exalted One habitually gives a person the desire [to do something], followed by the power [to do it], so that he does not feel that he is forced to do the act that comes to him, no matter how determined (mahma sammama ‘azmahu) the person may be to do the act, God the Glorified helps him by creating it and creating the power to do it, whether it be an act of obedience or disobedience, as the Most High said: “Whoever desires this fleeting life shall soon receive in it whatever We will; We bestow Our gifts on whomever We please. But then We have prepared hell for him, where he will burn,
disgraced and rejected” (Qur’an 17:18). He also said, “We bestow the bounty of your Lord on all—on these and those” (Qur’an 17:20). Th is bestowal (imdad) is arranged according to their desire, if He wills, and that bestowal is called help (‘awn) and abandonment (khidhlan). So if you say that you interpret abandonment as a failure to help, in what sense is this a bestowal?

I say it means that when the Glorified One does not help a person, but lets him have what is ruinous to his soul while creating that in him, He has bestowed on him [the state implied by the Prophet’s prayer,] “God of majesty and generosity, do not leave us to ourselves (la takilna ‘ala anfusina) for an instant (tarfat ‘ayn)” (cf. Abu Dawud 2000, Kitab al-adab [42], bab 110, no.
5092) and by that bestowal the person appears to bring his act into existence, so fantasy and imagination have no doubt about that. Many have entered into that [fantasy and imagination], and were it not for the fact that God, by His grace and generosity, has supported the minds of the believers and torn away the veils of fantasies that darken the mind and exposed them to the suns of knowledge by which they understood the truth of the matter, they would be like others. Therefore, some of them have interpreted the meaning of acquisition as the attachment of reward and punishment to a deed, in esteem, law, custom and intellect, and for this reason it is appropriate for a person be praised or blamed for his acts. But if we look to the inner meaning, as has been stated, and to the truth of the matter, it is not correct to make his act a rational cause of something. The Qur’an and the Sunna sometimes refer to human acts in the manner of “Enter the Garden because of what you have done” (Qur’an 16:32), and sometimes in the manner of “None of you will enter the Garden because of what he does.”

Because one can find texts coming down on both sides of the issue, and in consideration of the obscurity of what is meant by acquisition, it is said that the scope of human volition (al-jaza’ al-ikhtiyari) is narrower (adaqq) than a hair in the thought of al-Ash‘ari. Our shaykh (may God love him greatly!) said, “What is affirmed for us in this matter is that we attribute to God Most High what He has attributed to Himself, namely creation, and to the human being what He attributed to him, namely acquisition. We refrain from describing that acquisition in such a way that would lead to a doctrine of compulsion, because of the words [of the Prophet], peace and blessings be upon him, from our glorified and exalted Lord: ‘Determination (qadar) is my secret. No one may know my secret.’ Therefore, some of
them say, “The human being is compelled (majbur) in the form of choice (fi qalib
mukhtar),” which links the Qur’anic verse and the hadith in a number of ways:

First, it expresses the aspect of human acts found in the Qur’anic verse, which makes them the cause of reward, because of the appearance of choice a person has, which is not expressed in the hadith, which shows the hidden aspect of compulsion in human acts, which makes them like necessary acts, like the movement of the person who shivers, or colors and foods, and other such things that are not the cause of reward or punishment.


Second, it expresses human agency, because he appears to choose the act, although the reason the verse affirms this is because, legally speaking, human acts are the cause of reward, whereas the reason the hadith denies that works are the cause of reward is that, rationally speaking, human acts are not the cause of reward. So the denial and the affirmation are not of the same thing; rather, the denial is of a rational cause, and the affirmation is of a legal cause.

Third, the meaning of the Qur’anic verse, “Enter it because of what you did” is [that it is] a mercy from God, and the meaning of the hadith is that no one enters Paradise because he deserves it because of what he did.

Fourth, the meaning of the verse is “Enter it because of what you did,” although guidance and acceptance are only due to God’s favor, so in fact no one enters it because of deeds alone.


Fifth, the hadith can be taken to mean only entering Paradise, whereas the verse can be taken to mean the attainment of ranks within it.


Sixth, “because of” in the verse means “in exchange for,” whereas in the hadith it implies a causal relationship.


Seventh, the meaning of the hadith is that good deeds, insofar as they are human acts, do not allow the doer to enter Paradise unless they are accepted, and since that is so, and the matter of acceptance belongs to God Most High, only those whose deeds are accepted by Him receive His mercy. T e meaning of the verse is “Enter it because of what you did,” namely an act that is accepted. In this case there is no contradiction between the verse and the hadith. Ibn al-Banna’11 al-Marrakushi said, concerning acquisition, “Everyone finds in himself the ability to advance toward something (al-iqdam) or refrain from it (al-ihjam). A person does not advance or refrain because he knows what God wants concerning this; rather, he advances or refrains because of what his own soul wills and desires, and because he is able to do so. After the fact, he knows that he was compelled to make that particular choice (majbur fi ‘ayn ikhtiyarihi), but not beforehand. Th e direction from which he advanced or refrained (according to his understanding) is acquisition, and the direction from which the act actually occurred is compulsion.

Both are correct (haqq): acquisition from the mode of being God’s viceroy (khalifa), and compulsion with respect to reality (min wajh al-haqiqa). Accountability, reward and punishment are all placed by God Most High on acquisition with respect to the human being (min wajh alkhalq), not on compulsion with respect to reality.”

That is what he said. This is enough to guide a person to the path of guidance. It is best to avoid delving into obscure questions and their answers and argumentation with opponents, for although it was once a theological battle in need of defense, today it is a struggle (jihad) without enemies, and it tarnishes the purity of the hearts of God’s friends, because much investigation into futile matters disturbs the purity of the light of truth in the darkness of the hearts, and that is one of the greatest defects.


Human Power Has No Effect on Anything


You know that originated power has no effect on any possible thing; it attaches [to them] without effect; its relationship to them is like the relationship of knowledge to its object. [Human power] merely attaches to its object in the locus for which it is created (bi-mahalliha) and does not go beyond its locus; there is no relationship between [the empowered act] and [human power], whether of effect or of anything else.


You know that the Mu‘tazila say that a person produces (yakhtari‘u) his own acts, although they agree with us that the originated power does not attach directly to anything except the empowered act, which is in the locus of the originated power, although they think that in the locus there is a cause that brings into existence something outside the locus of human power. They claim that the cause and the thing that is caused are both objects of human power at the same time, one directly and the other through the mediation of the cause. They do not speak of the generation of secondary effects (tawallud) in the locus of the originated
power, except abstract knowledge (al-‘ilm al-nazari), which they say is produced as a secondary effect by reflection (al-nazar) in the locus of the power over it. According to their teaching, the generation of a secondary effect means that an originated thing is brought into existence by means of something produced by originated power. This does not contradict what we said earlier about the acknowledgment of secondary causes. They took this teaching from the philosophers concerning natural causes, according to what was said earlier, that nature (al-tabi‘a) has an effect on its object, (see note) as long as no impediment exists to prevent it.

Note: That is, that causes necessarily produce certain effects.

According to them, necessary intelligence (al-‘aqliyya ’l-wajiba) is not like knowledge, because of characteristics belonging to its essences (li-ahkam li-dhawatiha), (see note) because nothing can prevent it, as was already explained. So the Mu‘tazila took this teaching and called it generation [of secondary effects] (tawallud). They did not place secondary causes (al-sabab al-muwallad) on the same plane as rational causes (al-‘illa ’l-‘aqliyya), because an impediment may prevent a secondary eff ect.14 They also changed the expression, so the source of their teaching would not be obvious; they said it is the act of the one who has produced the secondary cause.

Note: A primary cause necessarily produces its effect, but this is not the case with secondary
causes.


If this were true, it could not produce a result, because a single effect cannot result from two causes (mu’aththirayn); of necessity, the effect of the cause on it prevents the effect of the power [that produced the cause] on it. To say that the person affects it by means of a secondary cause deflects the result of what is said, as has already been demonstrated, to mean that it is the act of its cause. Likewise, according to them, the exalted Creator [does not produce] human acts; rather, people produce their own acts, and their acts are not acts of God Most High, because they do not allow the attribution of human acts that are evil to Him. Their assertion of secondary causation compels them toward the very thing from which they were fleeing, namely that, according to their teaching, a secondary effect is the act of the one who produced its cause.


One cannot say that the Mu‘tazila were all in agreement concerning secondary causes, since al-Nazzam, who was one of them, attributed secondary effects to the glorified Creator, not in the sense that He did them, but in the sense that He created bodies according to natures and characteristics that require the origination of temporally produced effects arising from those natures and characteristics. He did not say that they are the act of the person who produced their cause. Hafs al-Fard said that [a secondary effect] occurs as a construct of the locus of [human] power and is determined by the choice of the person who produced the cause, so it is the act of the of one who produced the cause, like cutting, bloodletting and slaughter, but not if it does not involve the choice of the person who produced the cause, like the rush of air caused by rapid propulsion (alindifa‘) or something similar; the rush of air is not his act.


They also disagree concerning the time that human power no longer attaches to a secondary effect. Some said that it remains determined (maqdur) by the original act as long as the occurrence of something that is produced by the act is a cause that necessitates the occurrence of the effect; after this point, the effect of [human] power ceases. Others said that it only ceases to be determined [by the original act] when the secondary effect occurs and comes into existence, not when only the cause [of the secondary effect] occurs. They also disagree concerning whether human color and foods can be secondary effects of human acts. Thumama b. Ashras said that these secondary effects are acts without an actor, but that would nullify proof for the affirmation of the Maker. (see note)

Note: The cosmological argument for the existence of God is based on the idea that all things
are produced by a cause. The idea that an act can exist without an actor undermines this classic linchpin of theology.

Mu‘ammar, the author of Al-Ma‘ani, said that all accidents occur in the natures of bodies, except will. According to them, there are four types of secondary effects: force (i‘timad),
proximity (mujawara), reflection (nazar) that generates knowledge, and fragmentation
(waha’), which is the separation of generated parts due to pain (ift iraq alajza’
al-mutawallida li-’l-alam). Al-Jubba’i and his son [Abu Hashim] disagreed on whether the secondary effect is the force or the movement [produced by the act]; al-Jubba’i favored the latter, and his son [280] the former. According to the Mu‘tazila, forces are due to the pull of muscles and the strength of the connection of nerves to limbs. All this is from the teaching of the naturalists (al-tabayi‘in). The result of the foregoing is that they disagree on the cause of pain. Some say it results from a force of one thing on another through a blow or cutting. Abu
Hashim leaned toward this but then turned against this idea and settled on the answer that force produces the separation of parts, and he called this separation fragmentation; he said 19 that force generates fragmentation, and fragmentation generates pain. So if God creates pain in a body without the separation of parts or force, scholars agree that it is necessary (daruri). (see note)

Note: That is, not the result of a human act


The difference in their opinions concerning colors and foods has to do with what happens when color is caused by the act of a dyer or washer, possibly from washing after boiling with bleach or other such things: is this an effect generated from a human act or did God simply create this without any human effect or act?


The same question arises concerning foods that are prepared by cooking, or drinks
and pastes (ma‘ajin) that are prepared from several ingredients, or other such things that are described in medical books. One of the things that makes them say that colors are secondary effects from human acts is that if the juice produced from fresh, ripe dates is stirred in a natiq, which is the vessel [used for this], as is done for all juices, its color changes only when it is stirred. Most do not accept this as a secondary effect of human action. A small group of the Mu‘tazila of Baghdad and Basra said that it is a secondary effect by extension, through analogy (li-qiyasihim). The Mu‘tazila also disagreed about whether or not it is possible for the acts of the glorified and exalted Creator to generate secondary effects. One group said no,
because the power of the Most High is effective over the generality of all things. Another group said it is possible, because one cannot exclude the possibility that something that can occur from God Most High will produce a secondary cause that in turn produces an effect, unless there is an impediment; the issuance of a secondary cause is not an impediment, unless that is evident, so it must produce a secondary effect. That is a summary of what they say about secondary causation.


Against the Generation of Secondary Effects


You know from the foregoing, by decisive proof (al-burhan al-qat‘i), that all originated
things depend on the Creator, and that there is no effect from anything but Him on anything, whether in whole or in part. That is a refutation of what they teach about secondary causation. There is no harm in our indicating some of the corollaries that necessarily derive from their insistence on the existence of an effect from two things, namely originated power and the act empowered by it, which is the secondary cause, because they claim that the secondary effect is produced of necessity once the secondary cause exists, and that the secondary effect is the act of the person who did the original act through originated power.


This teaching leads to the absurd conclusion that there can be an act without a
doer who willed it or feels that he has done it. If a person shoots an arrow and he falls down dead before it reaches its target, but then it reaches it and hits a living person, who is wounded by it, who continues to experience pain until he finally dies, for example, this bleeding (sariyat) and the pains [according to the Mu‘tazila] are the deeds of the one who shot the arrow, whose bones had [perhaps] already disintegrated
(cf. al-Juwayni 1950, 233;
al-Juwayni 2000, 127).

There is no absurdity greater than attributing a killing to a dead man, given the elimination of what is required for the dead person to act; otherwise, there would be no proof for the existence of an act when the doer is alive. The existence of an act when there is no one to do it makes it impossible to formulate a proof for the existence of a Maker from the existence of originated things. Even if they say that the act does indicate an actor, their teaching does not
require the existence of an actor at the time that the act takes place. The correct response is that an act must be attributed to an actor, and its issuance (suduruhu) cannot be attributed to a person at a time that he cannot act, since its issuance from him requires that his condition be [sufficiently] sound [to perform the act], and prevention (al-imtina‘) eliminates soundness.

This also requires that the death which follows the pains be a secondary effect from the one
who caused the pain. To attribute to the shooter what happens to the victim after the pains that occur as a consequence of his act is tantamount to attributing the subsequent death to him. As has already been stated, they have no way to avoid this. Al-Jubba’i had no way to avoid this and had the audacity to rend the consensus of the umma by attributing the victim’s death to the shooter who caused the pain, whereas the umma agrees that the glorified Creator is the One Who gives life and death. Al-Jubba’i said the giver of death is someone else. If a person can give death, then he must also be able to give life, as that is the opposite of giving death, and according to the Mu‘tazila power is over a thing and its opposite. They argue that secondary effects must be attributed to the person who did the original act, if these effects accord with the person’s intention and motive, just like the act that is directly caused by originated power.


The response to them is that events follow others according to [God’s] habit (bi-hasab majra ’l-‘ada); their habitual sequence does not prove that one of these events has an effect on the other.(see note) If this is rejected, then the root, to which one makes an analogy, and the branch, which is the thing being compared [to the root], are of equal value, falling upon the lack of proof for secondary effects, according to most scholars.

Note: For example, God is in the habit of creating wetness of ground after creating the falling of raindrops. Our School, The Ibadis school, like the Ash‘ari, do not see this habitual sequence as proof that the wetness of the ground was caused by the falling of rain.


Another thing that contradicts their doctrine is their argument that we find that things happen according to motives and intentions. [Through this argument] they have helped us to prove that there is no secondary causation. Some examples [the Mu‘tazila give to prove that secondary effects occur according to human motives and intentions] are satiation and quenching of thirst when we eat or drink; illness, health and death, according to most of the Mu‘tazila; the heat produced from rubbing one body forcefully against another; the sparks flying from a fire steel when it is struck; the understanding of speech; the feeling of embarrassment or fear when speech is understood; and causing someone to feel embarrassed or afraid [when one speaks] (cf. al-Juwayni 1950, 234; al-Juwayni
2000, 128).

Some of them say that satiation, quenching of thirst and heat are secondary effects produced [of necessity] by their causes, though most of them do not say this, and they are those who are right (wa-’l-muhassilin min-hum). Th is first group alleges that bodies can be produced by secondary causes, although they are not, according to consensus, the type of thing that can be produced by human power. This is because if the flying of sparks from a fire steel when it is struck is a secondary effect, because it occurs according to human intention, then all other bodies should be able to generate such effects, because they are comparable. If they claim that the fire was hidden within the body, which then moved, and that the cause of the secondary effect was the movement of the body, not the existence of a body, no rational person could accept this, for there is nothing in flint or a fire steel before they are struck.

Likewise, if one cuts open a piece of wood like markh, for example, with a saw, there is no fire in it, but when it is rubbed it appears. If they reply that in these cases there are no secondary effects in these matters for which they have made them necessary, they say this only because they cannot deny that one may intend a certain amount of food to produce satiation, yet it may not, or for a certain amount of water to quench one’s thirst, yet it may
not, or to injure someone by striking him, and yet he may not be injured. Likewise,
a physician may treat a sick person so he might recover, and he may [not] recover. Likewise, one may strike something with the aim of producing a spark, but it is possible that no spark will be produced. The same applies with trying to make someone understand or feel embarrassed or afraid, and with the heat produced from rubbing. So the effect is not caused by these things.


One should say to them: It has thus been established that there can be no extending (itrad) the effects of human power in the examples you have given, like shooting, wounding, lifting and carrying a heavy body, and other things that are in dispute. Concerning shooting, a person shoots and sometimes hits his mark, and sometimes does not; the wound may bleed, or it may heal without bleeding. A person who wishes to lift and carry something may succeed in doing so sometimes, and not succeed other times.


The teaching of the Mu‘tazila concerning the movement of heavy things is that a heavy thing is moved to the right and to the left , not by pushing against it and lifting it, or, if someone wishes, lifting it and carrying it. They disagreed concerning this: the earlier Mu‘tazila said that the pushing that moves it to the right and to the left then lift s it upward, but [Abu] Hashim and his followers said that is incorrect; rather, more movements are needed besides those that move it to the right and left , because what we depend on to produce a secondary effect
is what we feel from the process, according to our motives and intentions, and there is no doubt that we fi nd that a person who has the power to move something to the right and to the left may not be able to lift it, so such a movement must not be sufficient for lifting.


They also disagreed concerning a group that lift s a heavy object, and what each individual in the group independently carries. Al-Ka‘bi and ‘Abbad al-Daymari and their followers said that each one carries parts not carried by the others, and that no two people share in carrying a single part. Other Mu‘tazila said that each one of them affects each part, resulting in sharing. This is the teaching of most of them, but what they all say on both issues is false. If we hold to the true teaching, which is to nullify the principle of secondary causation and to say that all contingent things depend a priori on God Most High, then there is no problem. If we accept it for the sake of argument, the teaching of the earlier scholars on the first issue is false by what Abu Hashim said, though what he says is also wrong, because it entails the conjoining of two comparable things (ijtima‘ al-mithlayn), because he said that there must be more movements, which is impossible.

For the sake of argument, we may accept the possibility that two comparable things may be conjoined, but one should say to him: If the lifter produces one movement in this heavy object, it cannot be lifted except by moving it, for the person must undertake a movement in a body while it remains at rest (sakin) in its location (bi-hayyizihi). That would nullify the reality of the movement, because movement requires expulsion (tafrij), which is impossible. So the stipulation of more movements in an upward direction, in such a manner that it
is moving in all directions, is a stipulation of something that will happen without stipulating it, which negates the reality of the stipulation.


As for their disagreement on the second problem concerning a group carrying a heavy object, if each one of them carries it independently, someone who held the first opinion, according to which no part is carried by any particular one of the carriers, or it is unclear [which of them is carrying it], said to ‘Abbad: “If it is unclear [which of them is carrying it], then it would be impossible to lift the part concerning which there is no clarity, because the meaning of its lack of clarity is that it is taken up as a whole, or rather that the effect is on any one of its parts, not this particular part. This is impossible, because the whole does not exist except in one of its members; it has no separate existence. So if one of its individual parts is taken, that is an effect on a particular part, and that is the second section, which is what follows. If it is taken in only one of its individual parts, then the thing is nonexistent and is not a thing, in which case it could not be lifted. If the effect on it is particular to that part, it is also impossible to lift a particular part of it; it is no better than specifying any other part, because if the outcome is that it is receptive by itself, the carrying is of all the parts, so in what
sense can one part be taken by itself without any other?

That is because if the carrying of none of the bearers is independent of that of the whole group, the aspect of specifying the part that is carried becomes clear, for example, if it is something that follows its head, because one cannot carry more than it. It would be similar for another part. The other, unlike what can be carried independently, has no way of being specified in that case.” When he said this to ‘Abbad, [the latter] said, “I don’t know how one can specify the part you mentioned.”


One should say to those who hold the second opinion: Is the secondary effect of the act of one of the bearers the same as the secondary effect of the act of another of them, or not? If so, a single effect would be caused by two things, which is impossible. If not, then the lifting of the body is accomplished by one of them, in which case the addition of the others is pointless. So those who say this are delivering a purely fantastical judgment.


One should say to those who say that the effect of each one of them is on each part: Concerning the secondary effect on this part from the act of Zayd, for example, is it the same as the secondary effect from the act of ‘Amr? In other words, is the lifting caused by Zayd the same as the lifting caused by ‘Amr, or is there an effect on this piece from one person’s lifting of it, and another effect from another person’s lifting of it? In the first case, a single effect would result from two causes, and in the second case the lifting of the body is by only one of
the two effects. If you look in the books of jurisprudence written by our companions, you
will find that they speak of secondary effects in some matters of jurisprudence, but not in matters of doctrine, because to believe in that is pure fantasy, leading to bewilderment and corruption, because the outcome is the necessity of positing a single effect existing between two causes, and the existence of an act without an actor, or an actor who has no will or sense of what he has done, or other such impossibilities discussed here at length.


God’s Knowledge of What People Will Do Does Not Compel Them to Do These Things


Once you know that all acts depend on (mustanida ila) God Most High from the outset, without intermediary, and that no one else has any effect on any aspect of them, you will know that all acts are equal with respect to God; none of them may be called good with respect to His essence or His attribute, nor can any of them be called bad. Th ere is, therefore, no room for the mind to understand any of God’s laws, for they have no cause (sabab), as you know. So what is good according to the Shari‘a pertains only to what they are commanded to do (illa ma qila fi -hi if‘aluhu). Likewise, nothing is bad except what is prohibited (illa ma qila la
taf‘aluhu), as has already been explained.


The Mu‘tazila say that voluntary acts are rationally good or bad, and that some of them are necessarily understood by the mind, like the goodness of beneficial truthfulness and faith, and the evil of harmful lying and unbelief, and that others are not rationally comprehensible through reflection, like the goodness of telling the truth when it brings harm, and the evil of telling a beneficial lie, and others that cannot be understood without the teaching of the law, like the goodness of fasting on the last day of Ramadan, and the evil of fasting on the first day of Shawwal. They say concerning this type of law that the lawgiver [the Prophet] brings information from the mode of the locus, not that he establishes a law, like a wise man who informs people that a particular land is hot or cold, for example. They also disagree among themselves.

The earlier Mu‘tazila said that deeds are inherently good or bad, and some of them said this is because of a characteristic that attaches to the deed. For example, fasting breaks lust, which leads to a lack of corruption, whereas adultery includes the mixing of lineages, which leads to the birth of illegitimate children. Another group of them distinguished between evil and good by saying that evil is bad because of its attribute (lisifatihi), whereas good is good because of its essence (li-dhatiha). Their proof is that all essences are equal, and the distinction between them is only because of their attributes, so if a deed were bad because of its essence, its evil would attach to the Most High. Al-Jubba’i and his followers said that the mind approves and disapproves [of an act] because of an aspect (wajh) and consideration (i‘tibar), so the beating of an orphan is approved if it is for purposes of discipline, and disapproved if it is for some other reason.


The refutation of all this is in what was said earlier: that human beings have no effect on any aspect of their acts, so their obligation or prohibition are not good because of human reason. Th e laws of the Shari‘a are all based on the fact that these deeds are commanded because they entail reward or punishment, or do not entail reward or punishment, as has already been explained. If deeds were described as good or bad because of their essences or because of a necessary attribute, God would not have ordered the unbelievers to believe, and this last is false by consensus.


Th e clarification of the dependence (al-mulazama) [of judgment concerning acts on God’s will alone] is that the Most High knew that the unbeliever would not believe, so to order him to believe is to order him to do the impossible, which is bad [from the perspective of human reason]. Furthermore, if a deed is good or bad because of its essence or because of a necessary attribute, it would never vary, sometimes being good and sometimes being bad, or else opposites would be conjoined, as if somebody says, “Tomorrow I will tell a lie,” which could be either true or false. In other words, if his saying this is good, because he told the
truth, but it is [also] bad, because it necessarily entails the occurrence of its corollary, telling a lie, which is bad. There is no doubt that it would be good for him to go against his word and avoid what is bad. To say that a good deed is always good and a bad deed is always bad necessitates in daily speech the conjunction of the characteristics of inherent good and evil, which are necessarily contradictory—the good cannot be bad, because of the inherent contradiction in their meaning, according to usage and understanding, as Sa‘d [al-Taft azani] said, that good and bad are equal because they are opposites. It can also be explained another way, that the person [who said he would lie the next day] must either lie the next day or tell the truth: in the first case, evil attaches to him because he lied, and good attaches to him because he told the truth in what he said in the first place, and goodness must attach to what is good.


So in what he said the second day what is good and what is not good (al-hasan wa-’l-la hasan) are conjoined, and that is the conjoining of opposites. In the second case [if he tells the truth on the second day], the goodness of what he said on the second day attaches to him, because he told the truth, and its evil attaches to him because he told a lie on the first day, so two opposites are conjoined. This conjoining of opposites occurs in the first three [Mu‘tazilite] opinions, but not in the fourth, [that of al-Jubba’i and his followers,] because in this case a deed is not simultaneously being described as good and bad, but through different considerations, for example, the conjoining of paternity and prophethood in a single
person through two distinct attributions.

On the issue of the Ahl Al Fatrah the Mu’tazila & Ibadi agree. The Ibadi and Ash’ari disagree.

On the issue of the knowledge of the Moral Code. The Ibadi and the Ash’ari agree. The Mu’tazila and the Ibadi disagree.

On the issue of acquisition (kasb) the Ibadi and Ash’ari agree. The Ibadi and the Mu’tazila disagree.

May Allah (swt) guide the Ummah to sound doctrine.

May Allah (swt) forgive the Ummah.

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The Place of Miracles in Islam & Christianity

The Place of Miracles in Islam & Christianity

“They challenge, “We will never believe in you until you cause a spring to gush forth from the earth for us, or until you have a garden of palm trees and vineyards, and cause rivers to flow abundantly in it, or cause the sky to fall upon us in pieces, as you have claimed, or bring Allah and the angels before us, face to face, or until you have a house of gold, or you ascend into heaven—and even then we will not believe in your ascension until you bring down to us a book that we can read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord! Am I not only a human messenger?” And nothing has prevented people from believing when guidance comes to them except their protest: “Has Allah sent a human as a messenger? Say, “Had there been angels walking the earth, well settled, We would have surely sent down for them an angel from heaven as a messenger.” (Qur’an 17: 90-95)

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“If they were to see a piece of the sky fall down, still they would say, This is just a pile of clouds.” So leave them until they face their Day in which they will be struck dead.” (Qur’an 52:44-45)

“Moses said: “You cast.” So when they cast, they bewitched the eyes of the people and terrified them by a display of a mighty sorcery.” (Qur’an 7:116)

“But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.” (Qur’an 2:102)

“Do not be deceived if you see a performer of supernatural feats flying in the air. Measure him on the Standard of the Shariah – how he adheres to the limits of the Commands of the Shariah.” –Mystic Bayazid Bustami

Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

Allah’s Messenger (saw) told us a long narrative about Ad-Dajjal, and among the many things he mentioned, was his saying, “Ad-Dajjal will come and it will be forbidden for him to pass through the entrances of Medina. He will land in some of the salty barren areas (outside) Medina; on that day the best man or one of the best men will come up to him and say, ‘I testify that you are the same Dajjal whose description was given to us by Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him).’ Ad-Dajjal will say to the people, ‘If I kill this man and bring him back to life again, will you doubt my claim?‘ They will say, ‘No.’ Then Ad-Dajjal will kill that man and bring him back to life. Ad-Dajjal will say, ‘I want to kill him but I cannot.’ “

Source: (https://sunnah.com/bukhari:1882)

We know as Muslims that if someone does a seemingly supra natural act or supra natural feat that this does not necessarily qualify that individual as being upon the truth.

The truth is measured by what Allah (swt) has revealed in the Qur’an and what has been given to us by the Blessed Messenger (saw). We know that truth is measured by sound doctrine.

The text that the Jews claim is the Torah says that even if someone tells us the future it does not necessarily mean that this one is upon truth.

PROPHECY FULFILLMENT ITSELF IS NOT A MEASURE OF TRUTH.

“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.” (Deuteronomy 13: 1-6)

“For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect..” (Matthew 24:24)

We have an entire article on the above here:

“Indeed, My servants – no authority will you have over them, except those who follow you of the deviators.” (Qur’an 15:42)

“Yet he had no authority over them, but that We might know him who believed in the Hereafter from him who was in doubt thereof that your Lord is Guardian over everything.” (Qur’an 34:21)

“He said: by Thy majesty, then, I shall surely seduce them, all Except for Your devoted servants among them.” (Qur’an 38:82-83)

You have to wonder, based upon the above statement, what would differentiate Jesus from any number of Jewish mystic miracle workers common in Roman Judaea.

“Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.” (Matthew 11:11)

John the Baptist: how many miracles did he do?

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ (Matthew 7:21-23)

Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, & Muslims do not claim to drive out demons or perform miracles in the name of Jesus. The only people who do such activities are those who call themselves Christians.

Those who cast out demons in the name of Jesus or do miracles in the name of Jesus are not necessarily of Jesus. In fact, Jesus would say to many of them, “I never knew you!”

A KINGDOM DIVIDED ARGUMENT?

One day Jesus was driving out a demon that was mute. And when the demon was gone, the man who had been mute spoke. The crowds were amazed, but some of them said, “It is by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons, that He drives out demons.” And others tested Him by demanding a sign from heaven.

Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and a house divided against a house will fall. If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? After all, you say that I drive out demons by Beelzebul. And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. (Luke 11:14-20)

How do you know that this is not an act?

What we mean is, let us say that a person is possessed by a demon and this demon agrees to leave the person when the exorcist — the one getting rid of the demon shouts in the name of Jesus, or Krishna, or Buddha, or Obi-Wan Kenobi come of her!

Then, when people see this, they come to believe that the deity that the person excised the demon in the name of is praiseworthy. Thus, the demons conspired in order for people to commit big sins like shirk—associating with and worshiping other than the one true God!

Not only that but the Bible teaches us that the kingdom of heaven is a place that is divided!

“Then all out war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.” (Revelations 2:9)


Now there is nothing wrong with witnessing a demon perform some supra natural act. However, if you then worship that demon, or it leads you to commit an act of shirk, then the demon(s) have succeeded in leading you astray.

What better example than the Charismatics and Pentecostal movement today?

The majority of those in the Pentecostal groups believe in the Athanasian Trinity, and call themselves Trinitarians. A sizable minority believes in what they call the ‘Apostolic‘ or “Oneness” theological position. Both groups can speak in tongues, and do faith healing. But who is correct?

A block buster book was written on this subject: The Pentecostals; the good, the bad, the ugly by our brother Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al Mansour (Surely he has his reward with Allah)

In conclusion: Supra natural acts, miracles, faith healing can be a cause for faith. Yet, they can also be a cause for disbelief and being led astray.

As Muslims, we are not thrown around by every passing wind. Our rock solid foundation is the Qur’an and the sacred teachings of the Blessed Messenger (saw).

May Allah guide the Ummah!

May Allah protect the Ummah!

May Allah forgive the Ummah!

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The Likeness of Jesus is like Adam

“Truly, the likeness of Jesus, in God’s sight, is as Adam’s likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, ‘Be,’ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

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“Truly, the likeness of Jesus, with Allah, is as Adam’s likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, ‘Be,’ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

We have often seen Muslims explain this verse by stating what is different between Jesus (as) and Adam (as). ”You see Jesus (as) had only a mother, and Adam (as) had no mother or father.” However, that is a difference and not something in common.

This verse says there is similitude and likeness between them.

Another point that is better than the first non-similitude is that Adam (as) was created from dust and Jesus (as) — through his mother, was created from dust. However, most Christians do not deny the humanity of Jesus (as).

Let us look at some verses in context.

“The truth is from Allah; be not of the doubters.” (Qur’an 3:60)

“And whoso disputes with you concerning him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say: ‘Come now, let us call our sons and your sons, our wives and your wives, our selves and your selves, then let us pray in humility and sincerity and invoke Allah’s curse upon the ones who lie.” (Qur’an 3:61)

“Lo! This verily is the true narrative. There is no god but Allah, and assuredly Allah is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.” (Qur’an 3:62)

So, from the previous verses, the point that is being made in Qur’an 3:59 is such a solid point that from there on there is no more point in debating with the Christians, etc. Nor is their force of conversion. Rather, it is time to invoke the curse of Allah (swt) on the group that is lying. Allah (swt) also connects verse 3:62 to the point He (swt) establishes in verse 3:59. The argument presented in 3:59 strikes at the idea that Jesus is a deity.

So let us go back and examine the verse:

“Truly, the likeness of Jesus, with Allah, is as Adam’s likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, ‘Be,‘ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

Question: Why would Allah (swt) say, ‘Be’ understood meaning “Exist” if he already existed as “dust” ?

Answer: As explained in our previous post, the “Be’ or “Kun” is a metaphor for the expediency of the command of Allah (swt).  Some Muslims must imagine Allah (swt) constantly saying, “Be!” “Be!” , “Be!” when in reality He (swt) is not bound by that in order to create anything.

So what is meant by: “He created him from dust” ?

Imagine the Arab Bedouins of the 7th century. How would you communicate to them the idea or concept of nothingness? How would you communicate to them the concept or the idea of a void?

Indeed, We have warned you of an imminent punishment—the Day every person will see ˹the consequences of˺ what their hands have done, and the disbelievers will cry, “I wish I were dust.” (Qur’an 78:40)

Subhan’Allah! It is immensely powerful. Imagine the full weight of that day when being faced with the eternal consequence of ever-lasting paradise or ever-lasting hellfire!

The person is not saying: “Oh, I am 182cm in height. Oh, how I wish I could be reduced to 158cm in height.”

No! They are saying they wish they were dust. They wish they were nothing, non-existent.

“Truly, the likeness of Jesus, with Allah, is as Adam’s likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, ‘Be,‘ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

If we as Muslims want to say: Jesus (as) is not God because Adam(as) had no parents whereas Jesus (as) had at least one, Christians are keenly aware of this. In fact, their text says:

“Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.” (Luke 3:38)

If we as Muslims want to say: Jesus (as) had a human origin, as did Adam (as), the plain text of the Qur’an does not support that Adam (as) had a human origin. (That he had parents).

If we as Muslims want to say Jesus (as) had a human origin in that Adam (as) was made from dust and, via analogy, Jesus (as) is made from dust via Mary (as), Christians are aware of this too:

“Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” (Genesis 2:7)

In fact their text also says:

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.” (John 1:14)

However, Christian theology states that Jesus (as) existed as the Word of Allah before being placed inside of Mary (as).

فِي البَدْءِ كَانَ الكَلِمَةُ مَوْجُودًا -In the beginning the Word (AlKalimat) Existed.

وَكَانَ الكَلِمَةُ مَعَ اللهِ، -And the Word (AlKalimat) was with Allah.

وَكَانَ الكَلِمَةُ هُوَ اللهَ. –And the Word (AlKalimat) was Allah.

كَانَ الكَلِمَةُ مَعَ اللهِ فِي البَدْءِ – The Word (AlKaimat) was with Allah in the beginning.

بِهِ خُلِقَ كُلُّ شيءٍ، -By Him all things were created.

وَبِدُونِهِ لَمْ يُخلَقْ شَيءٌ مِمَّا خُلِقَ. -And without Him nothing would have been created.

(John 1:1-3) from Arabic to English.

Source: (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A1-3&version=ERV-AR)

Prima-Qur’an comments: Now, the position of Sunni Muslim scholars is that they believe word for word the exact same views as stated in John 1:1-3 with one caveat.

That caveat being: “And the Word (AlKalimat) was Allah.” Instead, they would word it as: “The Word is not Identical to the Essence of Allah and yet, it is not other than the Essence of Allah!”

If that does not send chills down your spine and a wake-up call like a bucket of ice-cold water being splashed in your face, then so be it. Our refuge is in Allah (swt), the Creator of all things.

Now noticewe did not say this is the view of the majority of the Muslims.We want to be honest and protect the layman from false allegations. The truth is, the overwhelming majority of Muslims have never even contemplated these issues. They are simply following what their fathers follow and their father of their fathers. Or they call in and ask a Shaykh and the Shaykh tells them what to believe about the matter. The end.

The truth is the above position is taken by scholars who hold to schools that were adopted by certain Muslim empires not because the arguments in and of themselves have veracity.

Look at how the following verse describes Jesus (as)

 يَلْبَسُ ثَوْبًا مَغْمُوسًا بِالدَّمِ، وَاسْمُهُ «كَلِمَةُ اللهِ. -“He wears a garment dipped in blood, and his name is, ‘The Word of Allah’. ” -Kalimat Allah (Revelation: 19:13) from Arabic to English.

Source: (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+19%3A13&version=ERV-AR)

So now back to the verse.

“Truly, the likeness of Jesus, with Allah, is as Adam’s likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, ‘Be,‘ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

“O People of the Scripture do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and a word (kalimatuhu) from Him which He directed to Mary and a soul from Him. So, believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you.” (Qur’an 4:171)

So the thrust of the above argument the one argument in which Allah (swt) says about: the truth is from Allah so do not be in doubt is that just as Adam (as) was created from nothing, Jesus (as) as the word of Allah was created from nothing. From non being into being.

Jesus (as) is the created word of Allah (swt). Just as all the words of Allah (swt) are created from his attribute of Speech.  Not as the Christians claim that he is The Uncreated Word and that Allah (swt) uses that aspect of him known as the Uncreated Word to create everything else.

So the thrust of the above argument is the one argument in which Allah (swt) says: the truth is from Allah, so do not be in doubt is that just as Adam (as) was created from nothing, Jesus (as) as the word of Allah was created from nothing. From non-being into being.

Jesus (as) is the created word of Allah (swt). Just as all the words of Allah (swt) are created from his attribute of Speech.  Not as the Christians claim that he is The Uncreated Word and that Allah (swt) uses that aspect of him known as the Uncreated Word to create everything else.

Jesus is not the eternal word of Allah. Jesus is the created word of Allah. Created from nothing “dust” and that which is created from dust or nothingness is not an attribute of Allah at all.

“The truth is from Allah; be not of the doubters.” (Qur’an 3:60)

May Allah (swt) open the eyes, intellects and above all, the hearts of this Muslim Ummah.

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.


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The Ibadi view: Gog and Magog (Juj Wa Majuj) & The Coming of Jesus

They pleaded, “O Zul-Qarnain! Surely Gog and Magog are spreading corruption throughout the land. Should we pay you tribute, provided that you build a wall between us and them?” (Qur’an 18:94)

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He said, “This is a mercy from my Lord. And when the Promise of my Lord comes, He will crumble it to dust. And the Promise of my Lord is true.” (Qur’an 18:98)

“And We shall leave them, on that Day, to surge against one another like waves. And the trumpet shall be blown, and We shall gather them together.” (Qur’an 18:99)

First we will share a clip in which the Mufti of Oman, the Islamic Scholar, the Sword on the Neck of the Munafiq, His Imminence, Shaykh Ahmed Al Khalili (h) touches upon two topics:

The emergence of Gog and Magog and the so-called second coming of Jesus (as). For those of you conversant in Arabic, you may follow along. Otherwise, a translation in English is provided below: insh’Allah.

First question about Juj & Majuj

Grand Mufti was asked if there are some signs in the Qur’an about Juj & Majuj. Can you share with us your view on this issue? Have they already come or are they yet to come later?

Grand Mufti replies: “This depends upon the research of the scholars. As there are many scholars who have agreed that they have already come forth. And this is not far away from reality, because it is possible that between their coming and the day of judgement there is a lot of time in between these events. Time is different from how we measure time. It is like the time on the day of judgement would be like 50,00 years of our time.”

Dr. Saif AlHadi asked what is meant in the Qur’an:

“Until he reached ˹a pass˺ between two mountains. He found in front of them a people who could hardly understand ˹his˺ language.” (Qur’an 18:93) and than the following verse:

“They pleaded, “O Zul-Qarnain! Surely Gog and Magog are spreading corruption throughout the land. Should we pay you tribute, provided that you build a wall between us and them?” (Qur’an 18:94)

So Dr Saif AlHadi is asking how we join these verses? Because if you take the apparent text of the Qur’an without approach to interpretative measures, it may not make sense. At first, they find a people who scarcely understands any word, and then suddenly, in the next verse, are those people able to communicate their issue with him?

So, to this, the Grand Mufti replies: There are two possibilities. 1) “That the majority of them do not understand anything but this would not mean all of them do not understand. So it is possible they have learned among those who understand but not the masses of them. “

2) “The other possibility is the use of another language common between the two.”

Now the question comes to the: The Coming of Jesus.

Grand Mufti replies: “There is a difference of opinion among scholars. This revolves around the (Qur’an 3:55) “I will give you death and I will raise you up to me.” and how one understands it. As well as: Rather, “Allah raised him up to Himself. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise” (Qur’an 4:158) as well as the various narrations on the matter. Yet these hadith for us are not tawatur. We also have to take into account that the Prophet is the last prophet and no prophet is coming after him. The Messenger of Allah and seal of the prophets. And ever is Allah, of all things, The Knowing. (Qur’an 33:40) So as we understand this Jesus (as) will not come. The narrations are not mutawatir and thus we cannot take on this matter.

Prima-Qur’an comments:

Thus, dear readers, when one reads the Qur’an, you can see that Juj (Gog) & Majuj (Magog) were real people, real nations or tribes that would accost and harass some people. Zul-Qarnain was asked to erect a barrier to keep those people out. They were not supranatural peoples.

wanufikha fi l-suri (AND) will be blown the Trumpet. As Shaykh explained, he is of the mind that this event (The coming of Gog and Magog) has already happened. Now in English it is easy to get caught up in the flow of the language. Yet, the WA (And) is not something that indicates immediately after. We saw this in our article here:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/05/shaykh-salek-bin-siddina-al-maliki-return-of-jesus-the-use-of-hysteron-proteron/

In the above article, the respected Shaykh understood the WA(And) in Qur’an 3:55 as a vast period of time. Allowing him to believe that a lapse of time of more than 2000 years has passed.

The Shaykh also mentioned that it is possible we are in those end times now. However, we should understand that how Allah (swt) views and measures time is quite different from our vantage point.

“And they ask you to hasten on the punishment, and Allah will by no means fail in His promise, and surely a day with your Lord is as a thousand years of what you count.” (Qur’an 22:47)

Next, another verse not brought up in the discussion above, but the other place we am aware of in the Qur’an speaking of Gog and Magog is the following:

“Until ˹after˺ Gog and Magog have broken loose ˹from the barrier˺, swarming down from every hill, ushering in the True Promise. Then—behold!—the disbelievers will stare ˹in horror, crying,˺ “Oh, woe to us! We have truly been heedless of this. In fact, we have been wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 21:96-97)

The above verse simply reinforces the point made here:

“And We shall leave them, on that Day, to surge against one another like waves. And the trumpet shall be blown, and We shall gather them together.” (Qur’an 18:99)

Which, again, is not on the day of judgement but at a time before it.

Conclusion: In the Ibadi school. Juj(Gog) and Majuj (Magog) have already come. Jesus (as) has died, and he will not come back.

In the end, we defer our matter to the masters of the Arabic language. May Allah (swt) guide us to what is beloved to Allah (swt).

If you would like, perhaps you would be interested in reading the following:

https://primaquran.com/2022/10/04/what-happened-to-jesus-and-how-did-he-die/

May Allah Guide the Ummah.

May Allah Forgive the Ummah.

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Crucifixion or Impaled? Understanding Qur’an 4:157

“And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.” (Qur’an 4:157)

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Allah-willing we will be going through my articles and replacing the standard translation into English with what you see above.

Before we get into this let me first say that there seems to be three ways of understanding the above text among Muslims today.

1)The majority view is to affirm the Christian ecclesiastical view of the patibulum –(The crossbar of a cross used for crucifixion). However, at the same time deny that instead of Jesus being on the cross, Allah (swt) made someone look like Jesus and to put this person on the cross. The ecclesiastical Christian view is not challenged. Some how they imagine Romans involved in the text.

We speak more about that here:

2) The second view is to affirm the Christian ecclesiastical view of the patibulum. However, this view first espoused by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of the Ahmadiyyah movement has that Jesus was on the cross but swooned and was taken down alive where he migrated to Qadian India and died. Some how they imagine the Romans involved in the text.

This view is later adopted by Muslim apologist Shaykh Ahmed Deedat -raheemullah, and Toronto based apologist Shabir Ally. However, it should be noted that neither Deedat or Ally believes that Jesus migrated to India and died.

3) The third view is also to affirm the Christian ecclesiastical view of the patibulum. However, this view also accepts the entire position of the Christian ecclesiastical view; even stating Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected! The only difference with the Christians is on the theological implications. This view is espoused by Zaytuna College alumni Dr. Ali Ataie-whom is an assistant professor with interfaith activities. * note * We are of the understanding that Dr. Ali Ataie has changed his views on this and we will update accordingly inshAllah.

Most likely Dr. Ali Ataie is attempting to reconcile clear passages of the Qur’an that Jesus died all the while trying to reconcile the Christian ecclesiastical tradition along with the various hadith that mention the second coming of Christ Jesus.

Dr. Ali Ataie position has the influence of Todd Lawson written all over it. Speaking of Todd Lawson

Todd Lawson is the author of the book: The Crucifixion and the Qur’an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought.

Now without getting too much into this particular book,we think it suffices to bring to the readers’ attention two glaring problems with Todd Lawson’s book.

Todd Lawson himself does not even attempt to define the word ‘Crucifixion’. It certainly seems rather odd having the very word in the title of one’s book and not attempt to challenge the ecclesiastical handed-down version of the Christian tradition and yet in the same vain challenge the “ecclesiastical” handed-down version of the Islamic tradition.

Secondly, Todd Lawson dissects many words in Qur’an 4:157 yet, curiously he is quite dismissive of the treatment of the word صلب

There is scant discussion on the various verb/noun forms ‘sulb‘. Todd Lawson came with a mission. Super impose the word Cross and Crucifixion upon صلب

On page 31 of his book he states:

“It occurs in the Qur’an eight times (4:157; 12:41; 7:124; 20:71; 26:49; 5:33; 86:7;4:23). Six of these are as a verb with the accepted meaning of ‘to crucify’. The others are as a noun meaning ‘back’ or ‘loins’ (86:7; 4:23). Aside from its use in 4:157, the five remaining positive uses refer to (respectively): the fate of one of Joseph’s fellow prisoners (12:41); Pharaoh’s threat to his magicians (7:124; 20:71; 26:49); and a prescription of punishment for those who fight
against God and his messenger (5:33)
. There is no reason to doubt that the verb indicates the punishment of crucifixion, as it is USUALLY UNDERSTOOD.”

Now there is a great reason to doubt why anyone would superimpose the ecclesiastical Christian Cross as Todd Lawson tries to do. The very paragraph itself gives you reason enough.

Alas, Todd Lawson also some how imagines Romans involved in the text of Qur’an 4:157

Another interesting take away from Dr. Ali Ataie’s position is that Zaytuna champions the idea of following strictly a legal school and considers that we must champion traditional scholarship without question.

Yet, Dr. Ali Ataie’s position if honoured by Zaytuna is certainly a sign that a whole string of titans in the Sunni Islamic tradition on exegesis made a gargantuan error. Something interesting to ponder.

Every translation we have encountered in English has Qur’an 4:157 as “they didn’t crucify him.”

We also have no good reason to believe that Romans are involved in the text of Qur’an 4:157

There are a few reasons why we can no longer accept the standard understanding and translation of this text as such.

BEFORE GOING FURTHER: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRUCIFIXION AND IMPAILMENT?

Two be clear: Both punishments are suspension punishments. That is to say something being hoisted or lifted up. The differences between Impailment and Crucifixion are as follows:

A) Impailment is a punishment where a pike/spike or other sharpened object is shoved through the loins/lubmus region of the body. The spine is used to hoist the individual. Depending upon the technique used it is designed to be a quick death struggle after. After the hapless victim cannot use their feet or hands to keep the impale device from reaching vital organs due to exhaustion. The impale device pierces vital organs and the victim dies an excruciating death.

B) Crucifixion is a punishment where an individual is put on a patibulum which is than affixed to a crux (a pole or beam). There is no nothing driven through the spine and the spinal column is relatively left intact. This suspension punishment focuses on putting nails through the hands and feet and meant to be a prolonged death struggle. Death is usually from asphyxiations. No vital organs are pierced. In fact people could survive being crucified for days. Hence, Christians make a huge ordeal about Jesus being scourged before Crucifixion.

Anything that tries to obfuscate the two is not helpful.

Usually those who want to assert the cross are the same ones who superimpose it on Qur’an 4:157. Because if both mean impailment than just translate Qur’an 4:157 as impale then (wink, wink, nudge,nudge).

We are not convinced that ṣād-lām-bā’: used twice as salabu, four times as yusallabu and twice as sul’b means “cross” or “double cross”-like structure.

A “double-cross” or “cross”-like structure would include any of the following in the link below.

https://www.britannica.com/summary/cross-religious-symbol

There is simply not a shred of evidence from the Qur’an to support this.

What is the best approach to interpreting the Qur’an?

If we are going to have a consistent method of interpretation the best place to start would be Tafsir al-Quran bi-l-Quran. (Interpreting the Qur’an by the Qur’an). That is to say to do a tight analysis of all text of a given word and it’s various forms and usage.

Ṣād-lām-bā’: ṣalb and ṣallab refer to a bone from the upper body to the waist [i.e., the backbone]

Let us look at all the instances of this noun form in the Qur’an.

The artist impression.

Often in many countries where a person is robbed the police will ask the victim to give a description of the assailant. The police will than have an artist give the best description or approximation of what that individual may look like.

Now we are going to do a little exercise. Imagine you are going to do an artist impression of the passages you read in the text. What would that artist impression look like?

“And also prohibited are the wives of your sons who are from your loins (aslabikum)(وَحَلَائِلُ أَبْنَائِكُمُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلَابِكُمْ), And that you take in marriage two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.” (Qur’an 4:23)

The use of the noun form sulb is very interesting here. It indicates the loins. Which also gives a very strong proof that these people were indeed not ‘crucified‘ and that the text translated in 4:157 ‘they didn’t crucify him‘ is sorely mistaken.

Let’s use logic and deduction. Given that the noun form of صلب in the text above indicates the loins. Would it make more sense that:

A) ṣalabūhu used in Qur’an 4:157 is a punishment that relates to this region of the body?

or

B) a punishment that relates to the hands and feet being nailed on a patibulum?

The following link gives an excellent description and picture show casing the lumbar region.

Emerging from the lumbus (l-ṣul’bi) (يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَائِبِ) ” (Qur’an 86:7)

Another excellent example showcasing the lumbar is found here:

https://teachmeanatomy.info/abdomen/bones/lumbar-spine/

Again the noun form sulb being used to talk about the lubmus system and nothing to do with hands and or feet!

Perhaps Todd Lawson or those who advocate that Jesus died on an ecclesiastical cross could tell us which makes more sense the word صلب is used in connection to impailment or in connection to putting nails through a person’s hands and feet and suspending them on a patibulum?

In Oman the Arabic speaking people have various interesting phrases none of which has to do with hands or feet being pierced.

The previous two verses do not support the صلب being translated as cross or crucify.

“Correct your spine.” Is a a common phrase in Oman.

Let us look at all the instances of this verb form in the Qur’an.

HOW DOES ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE UNDERSTAND صلب IN THE FOLLOWING VERSE?

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or impaled(yuṣallabū) (أَنْ يُقَتَّلُوا أَوْ يُصَلَّبُوا أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُمْ مِنْ خِلَافٍ) …cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter.” (Qur’an 5:33)

Now this verse has not been said to be allegorical but clear. It relates to the punishment known as al-Hiraba (or armed robbery, highway robbery). The punishment is also used for “causing corruption in the land.” Now if you asked your average Muslim (even learned) when it says, “killed” what tool or instrument is used to kill?

Likewise when Muslim jurist saw the word “(yuṣallabū)” do you think they said, “Golly gee whiskers I wonder what this means?”

Are we really to believe that Muslim jurist that had ordered this Hadd punishment to be carried made crosses and double cross like structures when dealing with these criminals? Are we to believe that Muslims jurist ordered that the criminal carry a patibulum, suspended said person and put nails in their hands and feet?

In fact, name for us any school of jurisprudence: Maliki, Shafi’i, Hanbali, Zahiri, Hanafi, Zaydi, 12er Shi’i or Ibadi that does this?

Why was Todd Lawson so incredibly lazy in his research in this regards?

The fact that Islamic schools of jurisprudence across the Sunni, Ibadi and Shi’i tradition do not do this a deathblow to any notion that صلب means cross or crucify.

Contemporary example: May 30, 2009 (just 14 years ago)

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/30/saudi.arabia.execution/index.html

Notice:

“Even though the word “crucifixion” is used to describe the pubic display, the act has no connection to Christianity and the crucifixion of Jesus. The bodies are not displayed on crosses.

“Chirouf said those crucified are beheaded first and then their heads are sewn back on their bodies. Then, the corpse is mounted on a pole or a tree.”

Prima-Qur’an comments: The above is important because it shows clearly that there is obfuscation over the word “crucifixion”.

Keep in mind what you see here is the Shafi’i or the Hanbali school’s interpretation of Qur’an 5:33.

In fact a little inconvenient nugget in Todd Lawsons Book states:

“A cursory look at the history of crucifixion shows that the procedure was adopted for two distinct, if sometimes combined reasons: (1) as a means of execution; (2) to provide a forceful deterrent to future crime. In the second case, the criminal was killed by a separate means before their corpse was publicly displayed on a pike or cross. These grisly details are in line with the Shafi’i ruling for one convicted for highway robbery and murder, in which this second procedure was to be followed. The sequence of events, execution then crucifixion, may be reflected in the unchanging order of the two distinct ideals of killing and crucifixion in every tafsir consulted for this study. It is also possible that this reflects nothing more than the Qur’anic word order, in which case hyperbaton (taqdim) could be expected to have been invoked by Muslim rhetoricians; but which fact alone might lead the student of the history of religion to investigate seventh-century Arab methods of punishment.”

Source: (Todd Lawson The Crucifixion and the Qur’an page 31)

A few points to note here:

a) Todd admits the people were killed and then displayed on a pike or a “cross”. So this is certainly not a crucifixion-at least not as Christians would envision for Jesus.

b)Todd does not give us any proof that in Shafi’ jurisprudence people are displayed on the patibulum or on a cross.

c) Todd is content to allow the student to “investigate seventh-century Arab methods of punishment

One final point:

Often criminals lead a life of crime. Meaning they do lesser crimes that eventually lead to bigger crimes. So let us say there is a case in which a thief had been caught and according to the jurist their hand is cut off. The thief is caught again and a foot is cut off. Then said individual commits the crime of al-Hiraba. So than how do they (yuṣallabū) the individual?

PHAROAH EGYPT & صلب (SULB)

Now we will examine three text of the verb form that relate to the same incident.

“I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides; then I will surely impale(la-uṣallibannakum) (لَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ مِنْ خِلَافٍ ثُمَّ لَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ) you all.”(Qur’an 7:124)

It is obvious and plain as day that a person who has their hand cut off is not going to be “crucified” -especially not in the way the ecclesiastical sense that Christians imagine. If the hands were cut off then definitely it was not a T or ✞ shaped cross, it had to be impalement.

“[Pharaoh] said, “You believed Moses before I gave you permission. Indeed, he is your leader who has taught you magic, but you are going to know. I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will surely impale (wala-uṣallibannakum) (لَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ مِنْ خِلَافٍ وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ) you all.” (Qur’an 26:49)

Again as above a person who has their hand cut off on opposite is certainly not ‘crucified‘ -especially not in the ecclesiastical sense that Christians would image. If the hands were cut off then definitely it was not a T or ✞ shaped cross, it had to be impalement.

“[Pharaoh] said, “You believed him before I gave you permission. Indeed, he is your leader who has taught you magic. So I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will impale you (wala-uṣallibannakum) (وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ فِي جُذُوعِ النَّخْلِ) IN/ON THE TRUNKS OF PALM TREES, and you will surely know which of us is more severe in [giving] punishment and more enduring.” (Qur’an 20:71)

Again, a person is who has their hand cut off is not going to be “crucified” -especially not in the ecclesiastical sense that Christians have imagined.

Very interesting in the above text that these people will be impaled IN the trunks of Palm Trees. If you look at the various translations of the Qur’an they translate the word fi’ as ‘on‘ which is a bit curious.

The translators: Muhammad Ahmed & Samira translate 20:71 as:

“He said: “You believed to him before that I permit for you, that he truly (is) your biggest/greatest (E) who taught/instructed you the magic/sorcery, so I will cut off/sever (E) your hands and your feet from opposites (sides), and I will crucify you (E) in the palm trees’ trunks/stems, and you will know (E) which of us (is) stronger (in) torture and more lasting .”

https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/20/71/#:~:text=Verily%2C%20he%20is%20your%20master,at%20torment%20and%20more%20lasting.

So let us do back to our artist impression. We draw a picture or someone with their hands and feet cut off on opposite ends and impaled in the trunk of palm trees. How on earth anyone gets a patibulum with nails in the hands and feet from the above text is just pure desperation.

By the way (Qur’an 20:71) & (Qur’an 26:49) & (Qur’an 7:124) is a reference to the same incident. So what Qur’an 20:71 states is applicable to the other two text.

So when Pharaoh says: “And you will surely know which of us is more severe in [giving] punishment and more enduring,” you know that he had something truly diabolical in mind.

Look what the world History Encyclopedia says:

“Ancient Egypt utilized a process known as impaling. The body was literally impaled upon a pointed stake and death occurred quite rapidly as the major organs were pierced. The hieroglyph character for denoting this was a picture of it, with the phrase, “to give on the wood.” The practice is mentioned during the reigns of Sobekhotep II, Akenaten, Seti, and Ramesses IX. Merneptah (1213-1203 BCE) “caused people to be set upon a stake” south of Memphis.” Source: https://www.worldhistory.org/crucifixion/

The American schools of oriental research state:

The death penalty was carried out by impalement. The body was put on the pointed top of a wooden stake and the victim’s weight drew the body down the pole. We have no representations of this procedure, but there is a hieroglyph depicting a body atop a stake after the phrase “to give on the wood.” The execution seems to have been in public; one text even says besides a temple.” Source: The American schools of oriental research https://www.asor.org/anetoday/2016/01/crime-and-punishment-in-pharaonic-egypt/

So when we see this expression of Pharaoh in the Qur’an:

I will impale you (wala-uṣallibannakum) (وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ فِي جُذُوعِ النَّخْلِ) IN/ON THE TRUNKS OF PALM TREES.”

And we see the expressions: “To give on the wood

By the way (Qur’an 20:71) & (Qur’an 26:49) & (Qur’an 7:124) above cannot refer to a crucifixion or to a cross.

Why? Look at the picture below and you do the physics.

Every once in awhile a Christian gets the idea that he wants to experience the suffering that Jesus is alleged to have endured on the so called double-cross. So this person will lay down half naked on a beam of wood and gets someone to nail the palms of his hands (or the wrist) and his feet to the beam. When the beam of wood is stood up on its end, the persons’ body weight immediately tears his hands and the feet loose and they slide off the beam in degradation and humiliation.


This happened all to often, and people began to really wonder if the ecclesiastical images of Jesus inspired by painters, having him on the double cross were really true.


Thus, in all effort to make sense of the ecclesiastical images, made popular by paintings, the all too familiar “nailed to the double cross” method, along came the idea that the hands were not only nailed to the cross, but ropes were used to bind the forearms to the horizontal beam. This satisfied the world that such a method would prevent a body from falling off the cross and everyone breathed a sigh of relief.


This brings us to the next text:
“Oh two companions of prison, as for one of you, he will give drink to his master of wine; but as for the other, he will be impaled (fayuṣ’labu) (وَأَمَّا الْآخَرُ فَيُصْلَبُ فَتَأْكُلُ الطَّيْرُ مِنْ رَأْسِهِ), and the birds will eat from his head. The matter has been decreed about which you both inquire.” (Qur’an 12:41)
This is what the Torah says about the incident:

Source: https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.40.19?lang=bi&aliyot=0

“When the chief baker saw that Joseph had given a favorable interpretation, he said to Joseph, “I too had a dream: On my head were three baskets of bread. In the top basket were all kinds of baked goods for Pharaoh, but the birds were eating them out of the basket on my head.” “This is what it means,” Joseph said. “The three baskets are three days. Within three days Pharaoh will lift off your head and impale your body on a pole. And the birds will eat away your flesh.”

(Genesis 40:16-19) New International Version

Compare/Contrast this with:

When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said unto Joseph, I also was in my dream, and, behold, I had three white baskets on my head: And in the uppermost basket there was of all manner of bake meats for Pharaoh; and the birds did eat them out of the basket upon my head. And Joseph answered and said, This is the interpretation thereof: The three baskets are three days: Yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thy head from off thee, and shall hang thee on a tree; and the birds shall eat thy flesh from off thee.”

(Genesis 40:16-19) King James Version

Since this text is dealing with prophet Joseph (as) and he was under the Pharaoh of Egypt of his time and this is even prior to the time of Moses (as).

So based upon what we have seen concerning صلب as impailment in the above text (Qur’an 20:71) & (Qur’an 26:49) & (Qur’an 7:124) there is no good reason to believe that (Qur’an 12:41) is a reference to the patibulum, a cross or crucifixion.

So having gone through all the verses in the Qur’an that only leaves us with Qur’an 4:157.

What about Qur’an 4:157?

And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him nor did they impale (ṣalabūhu) him; (وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ)but it was made to appear to them so. Those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge of it, but only follow conjecture. For certainly, they did not kill him.” (Qur’an 4:157)

  1. Notice that the context Qur’an 4:157 is speaking about Jews. There is no mention of Romans in the text. You may start at Qur’an 4:154 for context.
  2. There is a double denial. They did not kill him nor did they (ṣalabūhu) him.
  3. Why the seemingly redundant text? Is it not sufficient to say “And they did not kill him?” Surely that covers everything?
  4. Why would Allah (swt) deny that Jews “Crucified” Jesus? Especially if Allah (swt) is aware of Jewish laws?
  5. Jews do not crucify anyone nor do they put people on crosses.
  6. Jews do however impale people. So translating (ṣalabūhu) as impale makes complete sense.
  7. The phrase “but it was made to appear to them” does not indicate that this was something Allah (swt) did.

Now what happens is for some reason Muslims look at Qur’an 4:157 and they see Romans! The whole context of the text is that Allah (swt) is talking about Jews.

If Allah (swt) wanted to say Romans he certainly he could have. Yet, Qur’an 4:157 mentions nothing about the Romans.

“The Romans have been defeated.” (Qur’an 30:20)

So where than do Muslims gets Romans or Crucifixion or Cross in Qur’an 4:157 ?? ?

Now if you want to wade knee deep in shoddy scholarship and try to reconcile Islam with received Christian ecclesiastical history and ignore the context of the Qur’an and interpret passages in a vacuum go for it. Like Todd Lawson, you can superimpose the Romans on the text. You can even imagine that Qur’an 4:157 is speaking about some historical event in relation to Christian Good Friday if you want. (Crucifixion) ?

Objection: But This means the Qur’an denies the Crucifixion and that is historical fact!

Response: The Qur’an is absolutely unaware of an event called “The Crucifixion” either in support of it or in negation.

Muslims do not need to fear Bart Erhman or anyone else who claims that this is a historical fact that Jesus of Nazareth died on a patibulum, cross like structure. We can deal with their claims as well. https://primaquran.com/2023/04/03/the-question-of-the-historical-crucifixion-and-the-martyrdom-of-jesus/

However, such a discussion is absolutely irrelevant to the text of the Qur’an.

Objection: But doesn’t’ the Arabic word salib mean cross? Don’t we see that in the Arabic language today?

Answer: First one would do well to bare in mind that ‘The Cross’ was not a de facto symbol of Christianity, really only becoming venerated in the 4th century C.E. Secondly, words acquire meaning or encapsulate new expressions that they did not originally intend or convey.

For example: I see hot molten rock spewing forth from the Earth in Hawaii. I turn to my friend and say, “Wow cool!” Now the word cool does not necessarily connoate the temperature of something.

The word fantastic etymologically has the same root as fantasy. Fantastic initially meant something conceivable by the imagination. Now the word fantastic basically means wonderful.

Conclusion:

There is simply not a shred of evidence that the Qur’an mentions a cross or anything at all about crucifixion. There is no mention about a patibulum or nails, nothing, nada, zilch, zip.

Henceforth from today,We will be translating the Qur’an 4:157 as saying, “They didn’t impale him” -keeping consistent with his various usages and forms throughout the Qur’an.

“And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.” (Qur’an 5:83)

You may also wish to read the following:

The above exchange with Rabbi Dov Stein further proves the point of this article.

May Allah (swt) Guide the Ummah.

May Allah (swt) Forgive the Ummah.

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Does the Biblical Text Assert Two Incarnations?

“Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.” (Qur’an 21:22)

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Two Incarnations? God became a dove? God became a man?

Recall that, according to the majority Christian belief, the Father did not incarnate nor did the Holy Spirit. Unless, of course, you are among those Christians who believe in Patripassianism or a form of Sabellian Trinitarianism.

Our Christian brothers and sisters assert to us that God became fully man.

“For in Christ all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form (somatikos) (Colossians 2:9)

Yet, they tell us the following:

”And The Holy Ghost descended in bodily form (somatiko) like a dove upon him and a voice came from heaven which said You are my beloved Son in you I am well pleased.” (Luke 3:22)

So here you have:

1) A disembodied voice about which there are two transmissions

a) indicates the voice was not heard by multitudes

b) indicates the voice was heard by the multitudes

2) God incarnated as a dove in bodily form.

3) God incarnated as a human being in bodily form.

What is this all about? Whoever wrote the Gospel of John does not believe that Messiah Esau ibn Maryam (Christ Jesus son of Mary) was born of a virgin.

“The word took upon flesh” (John 1:14)

Just like when you watch Star Trek and people ‘beam up’ and ‘beam down’, so is the case with Jesus according to this writer.

If there is any indication that the Gospel writer ‘John’ believed in a virgin birth, we certainly would like to see proof of that.

Of course, people will object. What about John 3:16 is not the word ‘begotten’ used? Well yes and no. The Greek word monogenes (only kind) does not mean or imply a sexual act or that Christ Jesus was conceived as other human beings were.

However, notice that the Christians love to focus on the idea of God becoming a man or taking on the appearance of a man for the salvation of humanity, yet at the same time they totally shift focus away from the idea of God becoming a dove for the salvation of Jesus.

Save Jesus from what? Save Jesus from being seen as false or not being approved of by God. Yet does this not present a conundrum? If God assumes the form or appearance of man in Christ Jesus, and at the same time, also assumes the form or appearance of a dove, how can anyone with a straight face look you in the eyes and tell you that there is only one God in this picture?

Why do Christians shy away from defending the view that God became a bird, or took on the form of a bird? We will tell you why, because this is where they part from monotheism and enter open polytheism or, at best, pantheism.

Like where the writer of Acts quoted an ancient pagan poet for inspiration.


“For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’ ” (Acts 17:28)

Quote taken from: From the Cretan philosopher Epimenides or From the Cilician Stoic philosopher Aratus

If someone were to assert that the ‘Form’’ was simply an appearance and apparition and not a tangible reality, this would be Gnosticism, because it would also mean that in Colossians 2:9 where it says ‘bodily form’ was also an apparition.

To deny that Jesus came in a tangible bodily form is the spirit of the Anti-Christ.

“Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” (1 John 4:1-3.)

By the way, according to the above text, the Blessed Messenger (saw) is from God because he was made to say:

“The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; other messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.” (Qur’an 5:75)

Check it out! http://biblos.com/luke/3-22.htm

Its’ right here in the Greek Text!

(We have the Majority, Textus Receptus, and Westcott )

God became a man and a bird.

Now you have to ask yourself questions like:

What happened to the dove? Did it live a normal lifespan?

Did it get ‘beamed up’’ like in Star Trek, thus proving right those Christians who said Jesus was an apparition and didn’t have a flesh and blood body?

“And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.” (Qur’an 5:83)

May Allah Guide the Christians before the burn in the eternal hellfire.

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